Gold & Silver Q & A

Originally Posted by Lance

Having dealt with both cannabis, legally in Canada, and precious metals I'd like to chime in on this thread and say this. Cash is useless.
I have friends whom cultivate the very best cannabis, that will be a barter item in the near future.
That said.
I also have enough metals to cover the mortgage payments for the next 3 years. That is not all that much metal since I pay very little and cover the entire mortgage/tax/insurance payments with my rent. I would sincerely urge everyone to buy enough metals to stay put over the next three years.
The decision is yours of course, but we here at the 'idea' farm have been trying to allocate a small amount of currency into the best possible use. We've put up a greenhouse, grow alot of our own food and have about $30,000.00 in metals. We also ow guns, arte looking at buying Dexter cattle and doing other things. But if you have currency printed upon paper...it is worth the same as the paper would cost. Get out of paper yesterday.

As for Canuck metals dealers with inventory
sigh, maybe I shouldn't...
https://www.jandm.com/defaultsecure.htm

But I will because, because it really doesn't matter at this point. I have mine, I buy a bit here and there, but c'est la vie. Get it while and if you can.
The point of the metals being worthy come from our ancient seafaring/trading past and actually make sense once you've looked into it.
It's not a way to get rich, it's a way of avoiding being broke.

I hope that helps
I'd rather have my store of seeds (which I do and sell) than gold, but banks don't take them as trade. Keep te bank happy, keep the people that live on the farm happier........

As a businessman with viable interests, you shouldn't have posted this.

But here you are, spooks be damned, eh?

But I will say, old pirates and Acadians can cleanse themselves afterwards, that we are on the verge of a new way. If you come to a "radiant zone" with pockets full of gold, remember, they will take you anyway - your gold means nothing.

But when you trade that gold to eat for a day, a week, or a month, remember these words: life is free - we pay for ********.

I do not mean any disrespect, and I wish you, and all you know love, peace, and happiness.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by historycircus

As a businessman with viable interests, you shouldn't have posted this.

But here you are, spooks be damned, eh?

But I will say, old pirates and Acadians can cleanse themselves afterwards, that we are on the verge of a new way. If you come to a "radiant zone" with pockets full of gold, remember, they will take you anyway - your gold means nothing.

But when you trade that gold to eat for a day, a week, or a month, remember these words: life is free - we pay for ********.

I do not mean any disrespect, and I wish you, and all you know love, peace, and happiness.

Fear is failure and the forerunner of failure my friend. Spooks be damned in deed, if I ain't on a 'list' I've been asleep at the wheel. Gold means the difference between having a payment to keep my Permaculture functioning and NOT. It means the difference between exchanging the 1/2 bison I buy a year to feed the masses whom keep showing up at my door, and NOT feeding them (I'm partially transitioned to metals based economics).

Our accountant only accepts silver. My family (which includes the aforementioned masses of about 20) buys organic, within the '100 mile diet' cheese where I mail off silver to purchase it. Believe it or not, I just bought a book with silver online from some guy whom thought it archaic, but said okay anyways. Pretty soon, I'll be buying my smokes until I grow enough tobacco and learn to transition to a pipe, with silver as my local 'general store' is gearing up to take silver.

So, I pay for my life with the metals un-dug by others and NOT hoarded them for tomorrow. I use them and encourage others to do so. All in all it is a very stupid commodity to trade for sure. Metals are a 'free trade, globalist' commodity. LETS, and other cystems (sic) are way better for community trading http://www.monetary.org/ But at the End of the Age of Empire, we shall all do what we can to further the idea of co-designing reality.

I have palladium because it looks favourable in cold-fusion. I have platinum because it is so friggin volatile on the market. In fact, I sold 50 ounces of platinum that I bought for a few hundred bucks an ounce in 1995 for a whole lotta money (I retired from a 'job' and went into non-paying Permaculture shortly afterwords) a while ago when it hit $2000.00 an ounce.
Not a bit of a dunce move there, tug me forelock to 'meself and give kudo's to me advisors.....(sic).

To be even more honest, I own a cannabis website (or my 7 year old does anyways) and the PTw be damned the best thing to have on hand is a viable cannabis seed collection that will actually seed in your locale. I don't advertise much but I own http://cannabis-world.org/. I had a license from my guvmint but threw it out and am more than willing to take on any yokel RCMP whom try and screw around with my life. I was robbed once, at gunpoint, while FULLY licensed, in front of my then 5 year old...screw the cystem (sic).

The ONLY difference between hemp and 'marihuana' (sic) is in the breeding. They are simply different cultivars of the same species. And here is the breakdown of WHY they are illegal. We here in BC have overgrown our guvmint and be damned with 'security' man. This is a crisis and people need to know how to protect themselves with knowledge.

http://www.manitobaharvest.com/nutrition/

I still stick with get enough precious metals, focusing on the monetary metals, gold and silver, to pay your mortgage off for 3 years, your hydro payments for three years etc. Any more IS hoarding a commodity-like thing that should be in motion.

Once upon a time....

In the USA it was ILLEGAL to own Gold Bullion

What IF the PTB bring back that law?

[Lance]

Originally Posted by zorgon

Once upon a time....

In the USA it was ILLEGAL to own Gold Bullion

What IF the PTB bring back that law?

I 'ain't merican'....so be it. And really, it's a transitional metal really, good for going far and wide, but almost useless at home. It's not about the legality (snicker) it's about the ability to say....buy Amero's if that's what coming into vogue with the PTw. It's the ability to travel world wide with, it's about owning a piece of history in a made up, screwed up world.

The amount of gold circulating in the US right now isn't going to become a legal issue since it is a very, very, very small number of people whom hold actual metal in the US (I'm soooo glad I'm person non-grata in that place).

This is a dead end argument for non-metals backed currency of any type. Who really cares what ANY guvmint says or does anymore? We are well beyond the tipping point for 'next?!' to happen at this point. Ask the South Africans whom got out before the nightmare of the ANC took over how they transfered their wealth...metals, the Rand has pretty much collapsed (not to te extent of the Zimbabwean currency but getting there). Ask the Russians how they preserved their welath...gold, silver and foreign currency. Etc and etc ad nauseum.

In 1991 I sponsored a 'former Yugoslavian' family to come to Canada. I recently asked my friend about the times there and she stated that she and her family lived off of a smallish gold coin collection as they were readying to leave during the NATO frickup of that place. When they got smuggled to Austria they used Gold to live for a week, when they next went to Amsterdam, they lived on Gold for a week, when they first came to Canuckistan they lived off the last coins....2 ounces of gold got them through.

It's beyond the pale of the AmerEmpire to screw with the status of metals.
The AmerEmpire is taking us all down with it and I'd rather hold metals than FRN's. Or 'loonies', in my case or instance.

Lance and Bildeburger w/cheese (I love that name by the way!),

For the short term utility of precious metals, I am in total agreement with you - I think we differ in our long-range assumptions of what our futures hold.

And, you can bet your (rock) bottom dollar that the government is keeping tabs on where the gold is flowing to - are there SECURITY concerns one should consider before metals investment? For those who are taking the advice of Green and others, who have no problem in participating in a future economy based on the same principles (just different tools) of the old, are those folks opening themselves up to unpleasant government scrutiny? If China and Russia do dump the floating basket and get back to metals (which I seriously doubt they will), would that cause the U.S. government to enact limitations/restrictions/confiscations?

[Lance]

Originally Posted by historycircus

Lance and Bildeburger w/cheese (I love that name by the way!),

For the short term utility of precious metals, I am in total agreement with you - I think we differ in our long-range assumptions of what our futures hold.

And, you can bet your (rock) bottom dollar that the government is keeping tabs on where the gold is flowing to - are there SECURITY concerns one should consider before metals investment? For those who are taking the advice of Green and others, who have no problem in participating in a future economy based on the same principles (just different tools) of the old, are those folks opening themselves up to unpleasant government scrutiny? If China and Russia do dump the floating basket and get back to metals (which I seriously doubt they will), would that cause the U.S. government to enact limitations/restrictions/confiscations?

Aside from the fact that I don't live in fear, nor America and besides giving out my actual real name when I write anything...nobody has ever asked for ID or anything where I buy metals. I am friendly with the staff, we have a couple of chuckles and when I have sold metals, like my platinum, and need to show ID...I send friends (I have lived with no ID nor a bank account for 5 years now)! I have even found several metals dealers whom seem to be scoff laws at requiring ID to sell metals. Obviously I am not going to mention their locale or anything.
It is better to have metals and not need them, than to need them and not have them! Obviously no one (in their right mind...which is much different than the left!) knows exactly what is or what might occur. All I know is that I've been gearing up to at least be as responsible for my family and myself as possible. One option I looked into was metals. I value my seed collection far greater than I value my metals collection. For seeds, the above well known 'slogan' needs to be somewhat altered to
It is good to have seeds, it is better to have seeds and have a place to plant them and it is best to have seeds, a place to grow them and the knowledge of how you do so. Hmmm...not bad for making it up on the spot!

So you are OK with subjecting your "friends" to the array of videocameras at such places? You would send "friends" to do that which you yourself are not willing to do?

[Lance]

Originally Posted by historycircus

So you are OK with subjecting your "friends" to the array of videocameras at such places? You would send "friends" to do that which you yourself are not willing to do?

If my friends cared about cameras, in all likelyhood they would not be my friends!....Nor would I care about them if I had ID...geesh, there is a lot of fearful folks around here. Fear IS failure.

[TAXMASTER]

i love some of the names that are posting on this forum.
lol

you talk about price manipulation on metals.....whew whee

as a futures trader generally if the stock market is up then the metals are down and visa versa. the reason is that it is the commercial money that moves in and out of markets that greatly affect the price movement.

the last few days the metals market has definately been manipulated. the stock market has dropped the last week while metals have plunged. why? the fed is manipulating the price of gold and silver keeping it depressed so that the money coming out of the market cannot go into metals and drive the price up farther until a snowball becomes a giant mass. where is the money going? they are propping up the dollar so all the money is actually funneling into the dollar and pushing the price up farther.

does this make ant sense? america is held hostage by the current bill to save the banks and everyone thinks that the safe investment is the dollar? gold should be the vehicle but because of the price manipulation, everone is scared to buy. my advice is to buy physical gold if you can get it close to spot. they cannot continue to do this. i think they are trying to suck everybody's money into the dollar before the bottom drops out....it's a sucker bet.

Namaste'

[clarkkent]

silver spot at $10 bucks???? and its impossible to get , jeez ya manipulation for sure.

when will they be able to take the lid off? when people flock to it by the thousands looking for a safe bet against hyper inflation?

man....when will it hit 1500 for gold and 150 for silver (their historical 10:1 ratio)

[ifeelthefear]

silver coins easy to exchange gold will be woth too much

[tandiwe]

Whoever is slagging off gold is hillarious..

I am holdin a few and I mean a few gold coins.

It has tanked today, down 50 dollars an ounce, and silver down a dollar an ounce.

This is NOT what its about.

Its about being able to get out of wherever you are, which is important to me. If I was just worried about bread I would be unto silver.

Anyway If you buy it for short term gains you are just indulging in casino capitalism just like the guys that got us into this situation. its a hedge.

In the UK our paper is still good for exchange. Here. Buy some euros if you wanna get out. Otherwise, you'll just be like everyone else. Whats so bad about that.

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