Oregon

Wormhole · 09-08-2008, 08:14 PM

PROVIDENCE:
Thanks for the ideas, actually I do have the bio-filter mask with the micro-partical filters. I used it for paint fumes and have just dusted it off from my tool bag, thanks to you.

I am interested on what NEWLY-AWAKENED has to say on this subject. Also, in a previous thread you mentioned that Oregon was a safe area, would you care to expand on that?

SEIRCRAM: I have an engineer friend who has designed just this type of dome building that you are talking about. I will give him a call and get his contact info for the thread, he was selling these plans for 2000.00 US. They are approved for use in California, and are also based on Geo-Thermal Design for heating and cooling. EASY TO BUILD!

Newly_Awakened · 09-08-2008, 10:16 PM

Hey Wormhole!

More than happy to lend anything I can to the subject. If anyone has any questions I can answer let me know.

I know we are not all made of money, however, I will list below what I deem to be essetial med/bio/survival kit items included in your emergency pack. This is by no means a full list of what you should have and some items I do not mention as you are already aware of them (i.e. chem masks). I encourage you to visit beprepared dot com. I shop here due to availability and good prices.

1. Colloidal Silver Solution - A natural antibacterial mineral for killing bacteria in water.

2. Potassium Iodide (PROKI) - I believe it was mentioned above; Radiation Tabs. (You can also use Iodine solution by rubbing heavy amounts on your skin over your thyroid twice daily in the event of nuclear exposure)

3. Butyl Gloves/PVC Overshoes - highest permeation resistance to gas or water vapors of any glove compound. Used in Military NBC gear.

4. Weather Resistant crank radio and flashlight. <-Must have

5. Thermal Reflective Blanket

6. Chemical Glowsticks - Always useful

7. MRE's...I'll say it again...MRE's This is a must have, they are not that expensive, loaded with life sustaining calories, easily transported and do not need water for prep. Depending on temperature you store them at, MRE's can last up to 130 months!!

MRE Storage Recommendations
Temperature (Fahrenheit) Months Storage
120° 1
110° 5
100° 22
90° 55
80° 76
70° 100
60° 130

I want to throw in a little information concerning Nuclear threats and what should be done as I believe that whatever our world is to face in the coming years or months nuclear is always a measure of a desperate person in final hours.

When faced with immanant nuclear threat...

STAY OR GO?
You must decide FIRST if you need to prepare where you are, or attempt evacuation. The nature of the threat, your prior preparations, and your confidence in your sources of information should direct your decision. If you know already you will be preparing to stay at your own home or, at least, the immediate local area, go now to #2 below.

If you are considering evacuation, your decision requires a very high confidence that it is worth the risk. You do not want to get stuck between your current location and your hoped for destination, as there will probably be no easy getting back. If you fail to get to your destination, you may be exposed without shelter, in a dangerous situation with little effective law
enforcement, perhaps among panicked hordes of refugees. Whatever supplies you have may be limited then to what you can carry on foot.

IF you are in a big city or near a military target, AND you have relatives or friends in the country that you know are awaiting you, AND the roads between you and them are clear, AND the authorities are not yet restricting traffic, AND you have the means and fuel, evacuation may be a viable option for a limited time. DO NOT attempt evacuation if all of the above is not clearly known, or if the situation is deteriorating too quickly to make the complete trip.

You do not want to get stuck and/or become a refugee being herded along with panicked masses. If evacuation is truly a viable option, do not wait - GO NOW! Do so with as many of the supplies listed on the last page as possible. Better to be two days too early in arriving than two hours too late and getting snagged mid-way, potentially exposing your family to a worse fate than having stayed where you were. Because of the very real danger of getting caught in an evacuation stampede that stalls, almost all families will be better off making the best of it wherever they currently are.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FIRST
Because time is of the essence, you need to first delegate and assign to different adult family members specific tasks so they can all be accomplished at the same time. Your first priorities to assure your family survival are Shelter, Water, and Food/Supplies. While some are working on the water storage and shelter at home, others need to be acquiring, as much as possible, the food and supplies.

FOOD/SUPPLIES
Because much of the food and supplies listed on the last page of this guide may quickly become unavailable, quantities restricted, and/or the streets and stores may become un-safe soon, you need to assign someone NOW to immediately go to the stores with that list! Get cash from the bank and ATM's first, but try and use credit cards at the stores, if at all possible, to preserve your cash.

WATER
With one or more adults now heading to the stores with the list on the last page, those remaining need to begin storing water IMMEDIATELY! Lack of clean water will devastate your family much more quickly and more severely than any lack of food. Without water for both drinking and continued good sanitary practices in food preparation and for bathroom excursions (which will inevitably be much less sanitary than normal), debilitating sickness could rampage through your household with little hope of prompt medical attention. That is a highly likely but, avoidable, disaster, ONLY IF you have enough water.

Every possible container needs to be filled with water RIGHT NOW! It will be very hard to have stored too much water. When the electricity/pumps go down or everybody in your community is doing the same thing, thus dropping the water pressure, that's it, what you've got is all you might be getting for a very long time. Empty pop bottles (1-3 liter) are ideal for water storage, also filling up the bathtub and washing machine. (Remember, later you'll have some in your hot water tank.) If you have any kiddie pools or old water beds, pull them out and fill them up, too. Anything and everything that'll hold water needs to be filled up quickly RIGHT NOW!!

One of the shopping items listed on the last page is new garbage cans and liner bags which you'll also use for storing water. If you can't get any more new cans, you could clean out an existing garbage can and scrub it throughout with bleach, then put in a new garbage bag liner and fill it with water. (Use two liners if they are very thin/flimsy.) Choose well where you fill up garbage cans with water because they won't easily be moved once full and many of them together could be too heavy for some upper floor locations. Ideally, they need to be very near where your shelter will be constructed and can actually add to its shielding properties, as you'll see below. BE ASSURED, YOU CANNOT STORE AND HAVE TOO MUCH WATER! Do not hesitate, fill up every possible container.

woodshreder · 09-08-2008, 10:43 PM

I am amazed at the growth of these threads
I want all in the Pacific Northwest to be aware of the prophecies of Billy Meier.
Micheal Horn was on Coast to Coast last week and explained the recent discovery of a huge fault of the Oregon Coast This publication from Oregon State University in Scientific Weekly http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0826124413.htm references this fault and its activity of late could be a warning of a earthquake in the near future in the 6.5 to 7.0 range Billy Meir however has a much worse prediction shown to him by his ET visitations in the 9.0 range with a Tsunami that follows that will destroy Portland as we know it
I hope all this is wrong but Billy Meiers predictions have a high likelihood of probability as you see here http://www.theyfly.com/
I hope we all can pull together and with collective consciousness lessen the affect or eliminate any natural disaster Peace to All Love and Light

Dominic · 09-09-2008, 02:21 AM

Checking in here in the South Puget Sound. Many talents-skills to offer the ground crew.

Cheers

09-08-2008, 08:14 PM	#1
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Pacific Northwest Ground Crew PROVIDENCE: Thanks for the ideas, actually I do have the bio-filter mask with the micro-partical filters. I used it for paint fumes and have just dusted it off from my tool bag, thanks to you. I am interested on what NEWLY-AWAKENED has to say on this subject. Also, in a previous thread you mentioned that Oregon was a safe area, would you care to expand on that? SEIRCRAM: I have an engineer friend who has designed just this type of dome building that you are talking about. I will give him a call and get his contact info for the thread, he was selling these plans for 2000.00 US. They are approved for use in California, and are also based on Geo-Thermal Design for heating and cooling. EASY TO BUILD!

09-08-2008, 10:43 PM	#3
woodshreder Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 60	Re: Pacific Northwest Ground Crew I am amazed at the growth of these threads I want all in the Pacific Northwest to be aware of the prophecies of Billy Meier. Micheal Horn was on Coast to Coast last week and explained the recent discovery of a huge fault of the Oregon Coast This publication from Oregon State University in Scientific Weekly http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0826124413.htm references this fault and its activity of late could be a warning of a earthquake in the near future in the 6.5 to 7.0 range Billy Meir however has a much worse prediction shown to him by his ET visitations in the 9.0 range with a Tsunami that follows that will destroy Portland as we know it I hope all this is wrong but Billy Meiers predictions have a high likelihood of probability as you see here http://www.theyfly.com/ I hope we all can pull together and with collective consciousness lessen the affect or eliminate any natural disaster Peace to All Love and Light Last edited by woodshreder; 09-09-2008 at 04:54 AM.

09-09-2008, 02:21 AM	#4
Dominic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Edgewood, Wa. Posts: 302	Re: Pacific Northwest Ground Crew Checking in here in the South Puget Sound. Many talents-skills to offer the ground crew. Cheers

09-08-2008, 10:16 PM	#2
Newly_Awakened Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 11	Re: Pacific Northwest Ground Crew Hey Wormhole! More than happy to lend anything I can to the subject. If anyone has any questions I can answer let me know. I know we are not all made of money, however, I will list below what I deem to be essetial med/bio/survival kit items included in your emergency pack. This is by no means a full list of what you should have and some items I do not mention as you are already aware of them (i.e. chem masks). I encourage you to visit beprepared dot com. I shop here due to availability and good prices. 1. Colloidal Silver Solution - A natural antibacterial mineral for killing bacteria in water. 2. Potassium Iodide (PROKI) - I believe it was mentioned above; Radiation Tabs. (You can also use Iodine solution by rubbing heavy amounts on your skin over your thyroid twice daily in the event of nuclear exposure) 3. Butyl Gloves/PVC Overshoes - highest permeation resistance to gas or water vapors of any glove compound. Used in Military NBC gear. 4. Weather Resistant crank radio and flashlight. <-Must have 5. Thermal Reflective Blanket 6. Chemical Glowsticks - Always useful 7. MRE's...I'll say it again...MRE's This is a must have, they are not that expensive, loaded with life sustaining calories, easily transported and do not need water for prep. Depending on temperature you store them at, MRE's can last up to 130 months!! MRE Storage Recommendations Temperature (Fahrenheit) Months Storage 120° 1 110° 5 100° 22 90° 55 80° 76 70° 100 60° 130 I want to throw in a little information concerning Nuclear threats and what should be done as I believe that whatever our world is to face in the coming years or months nuclear is always a measure of a desperate person in final hours. When faced with immanant nuclear threat... STAY OR GO? You must decide FIRST if you need to prepare where you are, or attempt evacuation. The nature of the threat, your prior preparations, and your confidence in your sources of information should direct your decision. If you know already you will be preparing to stay at your own home or, at least, the immediate local area, go now to #2 below. If you are considering evacuation, your decision requires a very high confidence that it is worth the risk. You do not want to get stuck between your current location and your hoped for destination, as there will probably be no easy getting back. If you fail to get to your destination, you may be exposed without shelter, in a dangerous situation with little effective law enforcement, perhaps among panicked hordes of refugees. Whatever supplies you have may be limited then to what you can carry on foot. IF you are in a big city or near a military target, AND you have relatives or friends in the country that you know are awaiting you, AND the roads between you and them are clear, AND the authorities are not yet restricting traffic, AND you have the means and fuel, evacuation may be a viable option for a limited time. DO NOT attempt evacuation if all of the above is not clearly known, or if the situation is deteriorating too quickly to make the complete trip. You do not want to get stuck and/or become a refugee being herded along with panicked masses. If evacuation is truly a viable option, do not wait - GO NOW! Do so with as many of the supplies listed on the last page as possible. Better to be two days too early in arriving than two hours too late and getting snagged mid-way, potentially exposing your family to a worse fate than having stayed where you were. Because of the very real danger of getting caught in an evacuation stampede that stalls, almost all families will be better off making the best of it wherever they currently are. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FIRST Because time is of the essence, you need to first delegate and assign to different adult family members specific tasks so they can all be accomplished at the same time. Your first priorities to assure your family survival are Shelter, Water, and Food/Supplies. While some are working on the water storage and shelter at home, others need to be acquiring, as much as possible, the food and supplies. FOOD/SUPPLIES Because much of the food and supplies listed on the last page of this guide may quickly become unavailable, quantities restricted, and/or the streets and stores may become un-safe soon, you need to assign someone NOW to immediately go to the stores with that list! Get cash from the bank and ATM's first, but try and use credit cards at the stores, if at all possible, to preserve your cash. WATER With one or more adults now heading to the stores with the list on the last page, those remaining need to begin storing water IMMEDIATELY! Lack of clean water will devastate your family much more quickly and more severely than any lack of food. Without water for both drinking and continued good sanitary practices in food preparation and for bathroom excursions (which will inevitably be much less sanitary than normal), debilitating sickness could rampage through your household with little hope of prompt medical attention. That is a highly likely but, avoidable, disaster, ONLY IF you have enough water. Every possible container needs to be filled with water RIGHT NOW! It will be very hard to have stored too much water. When the electricity/pumps go down or everybody in your community is doing the same thing, thus dropping the water pressure, that's it, what you've got is all you might be getting for a very long time. Empty pop bottles (1-3 liter) are ideal for water storage, also filling up the bathtub and washing machine. (Remember, later you'll have some in your hot water tank.) If you have any kiddie pools or old water beds, pull them out and fill them up, too. Anything and everything that'll hold water needs to be filled up quickly RIGHT NOW!! One of the shopping items listed on the last page is new garbage cans and liner bags which you'll also use for storing water. If you can't get any more new cans, you could clean out an existing garbage can and scrub it throughout with bleach, then put in a new garbage bag liner and fill it with water. (Use two liners if they are very thin/flimsy.) Choose well where you fill up garbage cans with water because they won't easily be moved once full and many of them together could be too heavy for some upper floor locations. Ideally, they need to be very near where your shelter will be constructed and can actually add to its shielding properties, as you'll see below. BE ASSURED, YOU CANNOT STORE AND HAVE TOO MUCH WATER! Do not hesitate, fill up every possible container.