14th October 2008

[1love]

i don't mean to be condescending in any way but thru my understanding of channeling i believe that there are three scenarios of what might occur during such a episode. this i have learned through the children of the law of one.
1) Someone channeling an actual disincarnate being;
2) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from the Inner Being;
3) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from their subconscious mind or the ego;
4) Someone totally faking it.

Also, if an disincarnate being is actually channelled whether or not this being is of a enlightened consciousness also has to be taken into account. Because most enlightened beings do not believe in possession and channelling is simply possessing another's body. So in essence, deciphering channelled information is very speculative.

[Antaletriangle]

It's definitely a gutsy exclamation of a precise time-a theory of mine is october 14th is a full moon,lasts for 3 days and is 2,000+miles in diameter,well in some circles there are understandings that the moon is an ancient reptilian ship parked in orbit and can move under it's own power-wild stuff i know.Could this ship that's referred to be a full moon?-Dunno, i also remember that the ship is called 'Alabama' not the state where it will park in geo stat. orbit.United states also sits in the northern hemisphere.I understand pole shifts to be magnetic shifts not crustal shifts-i have measured and known magnetic poles to move 1,000's of miles in 6 hours in the geological column and geological past.They are a natural oscillation of Gaia.

[Kahunamahalo]

Originally Posted by 1love

i don't mean to be condescending in any way but thru my understanding of channeling i believe that there are three scenarios of what might occur during such a episode. this i have learned through the children of the law of one.
1) Someone channeling an actual disincarnate being;
2) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from the Inner Being;
3) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from their subconscious mind or the ego;
4) Someone totally faking it.

Also, if an disincarnate being is actually channelled whether or not this being is of a enlightened consciousness also has to be taken into account. Because most enlightened beings do not believe in possession and channelling is simply possessing another's body. So in essence, deciphering channelled information is very speculative.

#4

[morem]

Well is nice of them to warn us and all. But I don't need a visual thank you very much, to know that life exist beyond this planet. To those of you who wait with camara's pointing. Good Luck!

[Andre]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan View Post
Hi, All:

In my personal opinion: the 14 October thing is a bunch of (almost certain) nonsense that came from one person, Blossom Goodchild, who channeled it and posted it on her blog.

It’s since been hyped all over the net and other channelers - appropriately front-loaded (meaning, already expecting this information and unconsciously agreeing with it) - have jumped in to say that their ‘sources’ agree with this also.

if this occurs, I’ll be staggered. I’m 99.9% sure that it’s incorrect, but well-intentioned. Unfortunately, a huge amount of channeled information - but not all! - falls into this category.

First of all, I am very weary of anyone proposing to be a direct voice channelling medium. But I guess, we wont know the true answers till October 14th.

[Sanat]

One important thing we can say about Matthews messages and Mike Quinsey's channeled messages is that they have never given such a specific "promise" before to my knowledge. They have never given a specific date just a few weeks in the future with a very specific and spectacular event attached to it. This is not to be taken lightly because a lot of people would be disappointed/angry if this turns out to be BS. Perhaps other "gurus" (as some here choose to call the messangers) have given false predictions before, but these have not to the best of my knowledge. Why risk to loose credibility by jumping on this bandwagon at all?

Anyone familiar with Matthew knows that he is very cautious to give anything too specific about "the future" because nothing is written in stone. It is a very unusual thing that he (and Quinsey messages) back up a specific date so close in this manner. Yes, they both say that there might be changes in the plan due to certain factors. And this can be percieved as "holding the backdoor open" or it can be seen as "just the way things are in real life". It does not change the fact that credibility is on the line in a big way here. Why would someone that is usually very cautious in such manners suddenly risk it all on "one bet" if they were not very certain it would go down as planned?

Ps. check out video of Bashar if skeptical about channeling. I don't see how one could fake what Darryl Anka is doing. He has even been hooked up to measuring equipment which showed what the doctor/scientist described as "seemingly two consciousnesses flowing through the brain at the same time".

[Avid]

I am indeed skeptical concerning this now, the video response here seems to be good advice. Thank you for that post earlier.
I'll have the tin foil handy then!
The stress levels in some of these threads is not a good sign - we are here to think positively.
Chill out folks

[THE eXchanger]

why just 14 oct 2008 ...
they appear on everyday of every year ???

just GO OUT and, look for them



they are already there

[Sanat]

The Galactic Fed. would never allow Project Blue beam to happen as this would be a gross misrepresentation of them and thus directly effect them and how humanity view them. There are but a few years left to the deadline now. Such a set back would never be allowed just like atomic war will not be allowed. This is also confirmed by Matthew and other sources.

It seems like many people are afraid of "getting their hopes up" and would rather remian skeptical to "avoid disappointment". That is ok if you feel that it serves you. Things have been so bad here for so long - for so many lifetimes - that there is an ingrained tendency to not believe that Good actually can and will happen. That we really deserve Good. Morbid curiosity is also a factor in this equation.

What info that resonnates with you depends on your level of consciousness. All rungs are needed on the ladder in order for everyone to have somebody above to pull them upwards. People that have ridden themselves of their personal past/future, and thus are totally present in the eternal "now" will see "what is going on" before people who still struggle with their personal karma. Everything arises from the same Source at the same time all over the planet and the universe as such. People with a silent mind can sense the subtle "signs/signals" a while before people with a more noisy mind. They will be a bit more "in sync/tune" with what is happening. The "dire predicitions" came down the ladder from such people WHEN they could be sensed in the continuum, IF things would have continued in that track. However, that track has been transcended, and now something else is coming down the ladder big time. Soon it will be obvious for all to see that this new reality is nothing to fear. We deserve nothing but Good and this is what we will get when the old crumbles away to make way for the New. The 14. october event is a huge neon signpost that will make the New an undeniable reality for a much larger number of humanity.

[Zenbuoy]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

why just 14 oct 2008 ...
they appear on everyday of every year ???

just GO OUT and, look for them



they are already there

Just re-posting the obvious which has become filed away in all the verbage.

WAS THIS An "October 14," painted around 1448?

Meister E. S. (ca. 1420 - 1468)

[TAXMASTER]

I can hear it now on October 14......The spaceship appears to only those who are ready to hear it's message......probably just a few kooks. The rest of humanity is not ready. I am sorry but I just cannot believe an unemployed ex-actress turned visionary that peddles new age goodies on her website.

Namaste'

[Mike_Jetson]

You will have to go ahead and debunk all the others then.

I think that painting looks a bit like a woman praying into the heavens, which may have opened up. there are many more UFO ancient paintings though

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by 1love

i don't mean to be condescending in any way but thru my understanding of channeling i believe that there are three scenarios of what might occur during such a episode. this i have learned through the children of the law of one.
1) Someone channeling an actual disincarnate being;
2) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from the Inner Being;
3) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from their subconscious mind or the ego;
4) Someone totally faking it.

5) Someone channeling a lower energy pretending to be someone else. Most Mediums do this.

I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

5) Someone channeling a lower energy pretending to be someone else. Most Mediums do this.

I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it.

You forgot the 6th alternative: Someone channeling an alien being.

Why not keep an open mind instead of being biased? I am happy if it happens, and I am happy if it does not. My happiness does not depend on anything external, and thus my discernment is not compromised.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Sanat

You forgot the 6th alternative: Someone channeling an alien being.

Why not keep an open mind instead of being biased?

Thats pretty much covered by No.1.
Everyone is biased, everyone has their own agenda. My bias? I am a Channel, I have first hand experience.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Thats pretty much covered by No.1.
Everyone is biased, everyone has their own agenda. My bias? I am a Channel, I have first hand experience.

Everyone is a channel also... The bias I was referring to was this: "I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it."

I am not, and I doubt that most people are; "a follower of Ms Blossom". But I am not biased towards this issue based on past experience neither. Everything is new and unique and my trust is not diminished by "false prediction" from other sources in the past or whatever. I simply ponder things in my heart and see if it feels right or not. This is not based on anything from the past, but on pure intuition. We will wait and see. No need to take anything on advance. That is all I say. No need to accuse people for being "liers/false prophets etc." based on the fact that others in the past might fit that description. Let's give this a fair chance at least is my opinion.

[coronetrt101]

Based on the Law of Attraction... if enough people desire this event to happen then it will because of the group consciousness.

My position is if it happens it would be wonderful and if it doesnt then its no sweat off my nose...

[jaby]

Originally Posted by coronetrt101

Based on the Law of Attraction... if enough people desire this event to happen then it will because of the group consciousness.

My position is if it happens it would be wonderful and if it doesnt then its no sweat off my nose...

I agree....there may be a critcal mass thingy.
Like the 'hundreth monkey'.

Also, your second statement....yes, because this will be a
World Contact Day what-ever happens.

Link....Carpenters...Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB51ehx1q9w

Enjoy...it's a goody.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Sanat

Everyone is a channel also... The bias I was referring to was this: "I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it."

Sorry, I mis-read that!
It is a fair point but everyone has bias and IMO, this event will not happen, I would love it if it did but as the info is all "channeled" I won't be changing my plans for the 14th!

[King Lear]

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...4&postcount=15

[eris]

i'm envisioning this one