14th October 2008

[Sanat]

Yea, it was a great discussion on several threads! I suggest we try to keep the discussion on this thread from now on. If this event is not something that is "allowed" to discuss on this forum I will take my hat and leave. Let's hope the good posts from previous threads will be retrieved so we can copy/paste them in here...

Ok, enough about that. What is important to know about the 14 october event is that when such a date is seeded into the mass consciousness and it resonnates with such an amount of integrious people all over the world in such a short time, then one should really try to understand what it is about instead of brushing it off as a "hoax/fake" at once.

Just like 2012 is not about a specific date as such, this is similar. However, the date of 21/12/2012 is still important as a focal point for mass consciousness. Same goes for 14. October 2008. Having such a focal point is a tremendous help when it comes to "manifestation". It allows a huge amount of evolved people to coordinate their vision of the future and thus "create/attract" a desirable event together. This is why evolved beings that don't want to "believe" in this should at least simply keep an open mind about it and not dismiss it up front alltogether. No one is hurt by keeping an open mind, but many are hurt by closed minds and dismissal. We cannot let the fact that "hoaxes" exist, make us dismiss everything up front. This way we close our self up to be "protected", and the dark has won.

I have no personal "hopes" attached to this event. I am happy no matter what happens. However, I most definitely will participate in this fun/thrilling manifestation experiment that is called the "14. october event" and I will continue to speak about it as if it is "set in stone" to happen while still being open to the fact that it might not happen on that exact date. The very fact that we have been given such a focal point in linear time is evidence that it is close to manifestation.

One thing that "ticks people off" is that they think it is about the "ETs coming to save us". I say; Good that this has sunk in at least. That the ETs cannot save a single soul. People misunderstand the "spiritual battle" for a battle of phyiscal survival and for physicality. Yes, the physical is important. But it is simpy a mirror of our mass consciousness. No ET can evolve for you. However, their high level of Light/Love/Presence/vibration and their massive numbers surrounding the Planet is forcing the overall vibration upwards. The energies from the center of our Galaxy, the Sun and Earth herself also participate in this. Best thing you can do to "help" is simply to allow all your dirt/darkness to surface and be processed out of the system in a responsible manner. Let go of the old rubbish and grow into the New/Now. Those who refuse this will lag behind. There is always free will.

If we are the "ground crew", then we are in the front line in this process. No one said it would be easy, but I think we all agreed at some point that it would be worth it!

[viking]

Very strange...I don't understand why the thread was taken off...I personally will be focusing all my attention on this event and will be wishing/praying that it will happen..

However if it does not happen then there will be a next time.. and that time will certainly come within our lifetimes.....

Its a question of when not if!! ............

viking

[Sanat]

Yes, that is it, Viking. It has already happened in the continuum. It cannot "not happen" as such. hehe. It can only be somewhat postponed due to many factors. The "timeline" already exists, but the timing is not set in stone. However, I do not think we would be given such a specific date if it was not very close to manifesting. Chaos is about to be unleased upon the world as the old crumbles into ashes, and like a phoenix bird the New will rise from it.

This event will help to flip this seemingly messy situation into something positive as it will open the minds of a lot of slumbering people. It will also seriously disturb the ones that are totally asleep. The timing could not have been better! Things are about to be seriously turned upside down and it will perhaps take some time for things to fall into right place again. But at least when that happens things WILL BE in their right place and not upside down as they used to be...

[elias]

Thanks for the responses.

I think that there were several threads started about this event and the moderators had good intentions for doing this. I am very excited about this event, if it happens it is going to be a total shock to our world, and many people are going to start "asking" questions! What was that? Where are they from? How advanced is their technology? What is their purpose? What are we doing here on Earth? Which would result in more "answers". And eventually the negative "plans" of the power elite may all be messed up. The evidence has been overwhelmingly high. But most of all, the excitement is what I am fond of!

Elias

[evollove]

Originally Posted by Sanat

People misunderstand the "spiritual battle" for a battle of phyiscal survival and for physicality. Yes, the physical is important. But it is simpy a mirror of our mass consciousness. No ET can evolve for you. However, their high level of Light/Love/Presence/vibration and their massive numbers surrounding the Planet is forcing the overall vibration upwards. The energies from the center of our Galaxy, the Sun and Earth herself also participate in this. Best thing you can do to "help" is simply to allow all your dirt/darkness to surface and be processed out of the system in a responsible manner. Let go of the old rubbish and grow into the New/Now. Those who refuse this will lag behind. There is always free will.

If we are the "ground crew", then we are in the front line in this process. No one said it would be easy, but I think we all agreed at some point that it would be worth it!

Thank you Sanat.. I just registered to thank you for this. I feel it's so true and needed for all of us.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by evollove

Thank you Sanat.. I just registered to thank you for this. I feel it's so true and needed for all of us.

I love/evol your name Evollove It's like a standing wave of beauty!

[elias]

A member named Sharyn is doing independent communication with Orion, which is quite interesting, you can find her channellings on the thread on Energetic
Forum. People this seems quite real and EXCITING!

SEE http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...html#post30311

[Teresa]

Hi ~ This is 'just a suggestion'.....

Maybe we can get Seer and Astrologer, Michael St.Clair,
to post a Chart here for 'October 14th, 2008' ?

If not, is there anyone else who would like to do one ?

I can also do one.. if something like this is wanted.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by Teresa

Hi ~ This is 'just a suggestion'.....

Maybe we can get Seer and Astrologer, Michael St.Clair,
to post a Chart here for 'October 14th, 2008' ?

If not, is there anyone else who would like to do one ?

I can also do one.. if something like this is wanted.

Both would be interesting. So please go ahead!

Here is a quote from the new message from our friend from the beyond, Matthew:

First, the undeniable presence of other civilizations. If safety cannot be assured for people on the planet and souls in the star nations themselves for their announced appearance October 14, the delay in that occurrence would not be lengthy--simply, the time for this has come. And when it happens, it will be extremely disruptive especially within the US government, which long has been under Illuminati control and thus denied even the possibility of other civilizations' existence, much less admit that extraterrestrials have met with its leaders and the consequences meted out to those beings who came with only peaceful intentions. Second, the truth about who planned and executed "9/11." In the higher vibrations in which Earth is now orbiting, that truth cannot be hidden much longer; when it emerges along with its even deeper purpose than controlling oil resources in the Mideast, which is to dominate the entire planet and kill or enslave its peoples, the Illuminati's long reign of terror will meet its just end. The global impact of these two major events is part of the ongoing world transformation and spiritual renewal of Earth's humankind, the God-blessed "ascension" joint venture with your space brotherhood that all of you on the planet chose in pre-birth agreements to be participants.

It is equally important that you know what other individuals who also have the ability to tap into the collective consciousness are seeing. Many are accurately seeing what we have described in Earth's Golden Age—the loving, peaceful life of all peoples, the restoration of your planet's health and beauty, the harmonious co-existence of humankind with all of Nature. In this wondrous Earth that is on the near horizon and already created in the continuum, there is no fear, no violence or greed or bigotry or any other divisiveness that thrives in a third density world. The choice is yours as to which world you want to be in, but because of our unconditional love for every soul, we pray you will choose the one of love and peace.

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=92&z=2

[Sanat]

Below is Matthews response to the common saying that: "We cannot be saved by the ETs. We must fix things by ourselves". I am not suggesting there is not truth in this, but it has become a rather annoying mantra. And it is also based on the misunderstanding that assisting with worldly matters is the same as trying to interfere with our spiritual evolution/growth. The ETs are and have been a big part of our history as all is connected always. The extent of their assistance and opennes in doing so is directly tied to mankinds Level of Consciousness which has been rapidly growing for some time now. Thus, the 14 october event is a natural step up in accordance with were we are at this time. Matthews response to this offers a good balance:

23. Some lightworkers are pleading for mass landings NOW and others are of the mind that Earth's peoples should stop looking to the skies for help because you're supposed to bring about all necessary reforms yourselves. Oh my! Divide and conquer? Your space family has been assisting Earth in ways you cannot, and they are not taking on the entire responsibility of transforming your world—they are working with you to manifest the world you want. And they cannot land en masse and delve right in with their pollution-clearing and other technologies until there is safety for them and all of you.

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=92&z=2

Remember that "physical reality" is simpy a mirror reflecting our level of mass consciousness which fluctuates around an average value (same is true on the individual micro level). The ETs have the technology etc. to manifest changes rapidly in the 3D reality according to our level of evolvement. This is not "artificial intervention", but rather the mirror of "physical reality" reflecting back to us the changes that have taken place in our level of evolvement. It is OK for a sick person to accept assistence from benevolent helpers as long as they do not become a crutch for him, but rather help him to rid himself of all crutches...

Here I offer my personal measuring of our level of mass consciousness with respect to David Hawkins scale and also using his method. Make of it as you wish:

Level of mass consciousness at certain points in time:

1945: (160)

1980: (190)

1990: (205)

2000: (207)

2003: (206)

2008 (primo): (211)

2008 (today): (256)

In short: Below 200 thrives darkness, victim/abuse consciousness, isolation, fear/animalistic/ego. Above 200 is more and more empowerment, independance, happiness, Light/Love. We are moving in the right direction it seems, and DO take into consideration that the scale is exponential...

For those interested in a short but very good intro to this scale read this article of Steve Pavlina:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...consciousness/

And also the followup about how to raise it:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...consciousness/

[seeing clearly]

Since this change I am lost as to just what I can post.
There is much online and in my memory banks which would be quite helpful.

It has been stated we need to post what we know but personal
opinions are not kool.
it has been said also that c&p is not kool but pertinent articles are
welcome.

I gave up reading all the marching orders and went to more peaceful sites!

Being from a now passing generation I am not connected to this circular
thinking M.O. BLESSED BE !

I am OTT logical, and at same time highly intuitive and easily get lost in
contradictory statements and disparate 'guidance' by the well meaning .

Never worked in an office to get the training to understand this kind of
communications which I DO suspect are the ego trippings of some of
the members here and have no relation to making this a successful forum
IF it is intended it to BE a successful forum. also I am eternally grateful
I never got "trained" to understand the duplicituousness of circular
thinking .

what we post seems limited by some rather narrow guidelines
of members who seem to know what is supposed to be allowed
and it is just confusing to me. be careful of what basic mores you
allow as the very ones you try to keep out may hold the seeds
of your salvation."VARIETY is the very spice of life that gives
it all its flavour".


This is why I am steering clear except for Health and Ground Crew page.

Y'all do miss some great info and wit but other venus love my dance.



here on this thread I think I can add just a small contribution

and YES I am an astrologer.

but not ready to post here and incur the wrath of those who
believe in their own infallibility and that of their chosen gurus
and seem to be so invested in that a newbie doesnt want to get
into those ego entanglements making silence is the best contribution to
this current stage in the development of this forum.

Motto here seems to be Lurkers encouraged to applaud those who
are the guides of what the founders intended and otherwise keep quiet.

I DID keep quiet as to the results of the change.
This is MY statement on it NOW and I will return to lurker status.
Now I dont come as often or read as much
All vanilla is BORING !

***

Now here is my little bit to this DATE thingie:

In Astrology there are certain dates Historically that have been turning
points or flash points for great changes or momentous happenings


as is Aug 9th, April 19th and so many more.......

one date considered to be AUSPICIOUS is OCTOBER 18th.
if anything goes down such as a peace treaty I did not make
any prediction here, only reminded readers of the energy of that date

It has been said by more than one Astrologer that by way of huge
scandals one day the whole of the US Congress will RESIGN in one fell
swoop!

if we all concentrate on it ....
its number value is 9 , beginings and endings

if we all make a vision...

just a little idea.

,

[Shaun*]

(^_*)



an update from Blossom for us



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXzkFm0VnTA





take me home!


much love to you all and to all that is



namaste

[Mark]

This tread will probably be closed, but it shouldn't be. I feel really good about this - keep the faith, love and light...

[Sanat]

No, don't think like that mate. Cheer up!

Here, let me share an email someone sent Blossom Goodchild and she posted it on her site. This illustrates how huge this thing has already become, and remember; these things grow exponentially(!):

82.when I search just for Blossom Goodchild this is what I found in youtube; Just thought you would like to know you message is gettin gout there. there are several english versions of your message that have recived a total of 105,110 views. A spanish version has recieved a total of 163,475 total views. WOW! when I search for the Fedearation of Light there are over 40 DIFFERENT VIDEOS PERTAINING TO YOUR MESSAGE with a total of 280,499 views. Several of these are in different languages I think German and Spanish. Alot of people are getting this information, I think every one is trying to get the message out. I am so happy about this. There are 80 videos on October 14th alone. This is HUGE.

http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/BGoct14_page8.html

What people need to realize is that if 2012 is indeed the kind of deadline we all feel it to be, then a whole lot will have to happen on earth before that deadline which is only a few years from now. The ETs have an important part to play in all this, and the 14 october event will kickstart the whole process.

Everyone on the planet must be taken into consideration as everyone should be offered a fair opportunity to evolve. Still the majority of people have more than enough with daily struggle for survival. A certain balance in wealth is needed to raise the vibration of this Planet (mass consciousness) in a major way, and allow everyone at least the opportunity to ascend. There is a lot going on behind the scenes to prepare for this. A lot is going on that will surface very soon. It had to be kept in stealth mode for obvious reasons, and also because the Light cannot win by using dark methods. There are many kinds of Lightworkers in this game. The ET technology and repressed free energy technology etc. will also play a major part in all this once the dark regime is removed.

I know from my own experience that a lot can happen very fast and change things in seemingly miraculous ways in a short amount of time. A few years ago I was totally depressed/lost and drinking hard. This is not the case anymore to say the least. Same thing goes for a friend of mine (only one I have left. hehe). Heaven and hell are indeed an inch apart... Since time is getting shorter our "karma" have lesser time to play it self out, thus it is compressed and things get more and more intense. This can be "frightening" and misinterpreted as if things are not moving in the right direction while indeed, they are. Try to relax and allow the process to flow freely as this will lesson the symptoms.

Even people who are not in to these things at all (yet) have come to me and talked about something about an ET craft 14 october. I reply: Oh, really. I haven't heard! Please tell me about it! Hehe. It's more fun that way!

[eris]

extra good post Sanat totally agree with u there

[DoctorWho]

Practical issue: What about the sick, elderly, and imprisoned? How do they get this info if they are cut off from the internet and real world, beside people just telling them and not having the oppotunity to make informed decisions from their own research?
Bill "the Doctor"

[skysurfer]

As much as I admire Blossom's courage in her Oct 14 channelling I have to say that the whole thing doesnt seem logical to me.
An advanced civilisation would surely choose more than one channel to dispense such important info. Twenty channellers simultaneously receiving this message would do the trick - not beyond the capabilities I would have thought of the 'Federation'.
And although Blossom seems humble enough I worry about the ego boost it must give anyone to be 'chosen among all women' to enlighten the whole world.
It feels like the kind of tactics you get from cults who lovebomb people they want to manipulate.
Oh dear - am I being sceptical or just discerning....?

[Sanat]

All I care about is to provide info and angles so people can make up their own mind. Or even better: keep an open mind.

Perhaps there is a good reason they have done it like this, Skysurfer? Perhaps they do not want people to believe in and thus be addicted to "external authority", but rather want to trigger/test peoples "inner discernment". Are enough people ready to trust themselves, or do they still depend on someone else to tell them "what is going on"?

[jaby]

Originally Posted by skysurfer

As much as I admire Blossom's courage in her Oct 14 channelling I have to say that the whole thing doesnt seem logical to me.
An advanced civilisation would surely choose more than one channel to dispense such important info. Twenty channellers simultaneously receiving this message would do the trick - not beyond the capabilities I would have thought of the 'Federation'.
And although Blossom seems humble enough I worry about the ego boost it must give anyone to be 'chosen among all women' to enlighten the whole world.
It feels like the kind of tactics you get from cults who lovebomb people they want to manipulate.
Oh dear - am I being sceptical or just discerning....?

Although I am way into the energy and spiritual side of this.
There is logic to it, as well.

If ETs have been visiting for 60 years....
If we are not alone in the universe...

Why shouldn't higher vibration ETs...celestials...come here in a
purposeful way? It feels right that they do. And lucky us...it could
be next week!

Why Blossom...well why not?

She seems like a good person with integrity and a sense of humour.
She is the catalyst. But the hundreds of thousands of people around
the world, who are into all this are an equal part.
I think Blossom would be happy to hear me say that. I know if I was
her I would be.

It's all building up very nicely in my opinion.

The world economy is in severe trouble...although this is
alarming in one way...it could be a part of it all. How weird
that it is happening now. Just before October 14th.

[THE eXchanger]

[QUOTE=jaby;41238]If ETs have been visiting for 60 years....
If we are not alone in the universe...
QUOTE]

et's have been visiting earth, since the beginning of time,
on this planet / i still can NOT figure out, why 10/14/2008
would be a different type of day --- proof of this is
scattered in rock carvings all over the planet --- ind. culture believe we come from the stars

help me here -- human is a label / humanity is just a label for everyone who is here

so, what eXactly do most of you think you actually are ?

curious
susan
the eXchanger

[jaby]

[QUOTE=eXchanger;41245]

Originally Posted by jaby

If ETs have been visiting for 60 years....
If we are not alone in the universe...
QUOTE]

et's have been visiting earth, since the beginning of time,
on this planet / i still can NOT figure out, why 10/14/2008
would be a different type of day --- proof of this is
scattered in rock carvings all over the planet --- ind. culture believe we come from the stars

help me here -- human is a label / humanity is just a label for everyone who is here

so, what eXactly do most of you think you actually are ?

curious
susan
the eXchanger

I was, of course, talking about in modern times...and yes
'they' have involved themselves in earth for a long, long time.
We are almost certainly part ET of some kind. But the labels
don't matter....


If you personally are not into October 14th....that is your choice.

I personally am very into it. How-ever it pans out something big is
happening anyway....October 14th is a different type of day, because
we WISH it to be. WE WANT it to be. If you don't then that is your
choice.

Blossom is the catalyst. It would have just fizzled away if everyone
else hadn't TUNED in and TURNED on.

Listen to this...the text is it's in Spanish...but LISTEN.

This is a tribal calling....http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=khZQHyVD88s

342,000 people have heard this tribal call.

[LadyGolfer]

In regards to "in the days of old" and "your southern hemisphere", please see this site which explains how the hemispheres were positioned many many years ago. This is the reason I posted my original message. The animated globe shows the information.
http://www.livescience.com/environme...app_mount.html

[NeoEmc2]

Sanat,

I think David Wilcock means wipe them out in the sense of just showing up. I think he means the truth would come out and therefore wipe them out. At least that's how I understand it.

[Carol]

Sanat, Thank you for making that post.

It's nice to get a fresh perspective.

[THE eXchanger]

this has a holly-wood smell to it !!!

i wish i could find Bill Ryan's comments on this !!!

(anyone know how to find those old comments) ???