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[dddanieljjjamesss]

I see a lot of people on youtube trying to use the rodin coil to increase the electrical power and move a rod & axel, or spin a magnet or something, which from what it seems gives you a lot more power for a lot less, which is awesome as it is

but do you think anyone has tried getting it to spin itself?

i don't know what you would have to do with magnets or a way to do that in the water, but do you think it would have any effect? i think because the toroid would maintain its same shape, but increase its speed / vibration it may do something cool?

but i'm no scientist

[Curative]

Great going Gregor.

Maybe an idea to add a second (or more) coil(s), to help expand your experimental potential. Would also act as a backup in case you melt through the first one.

Looking forward to the test results, may the spirits of sacred science aid you in your quest

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by Curative

Great going Gregor.

Maybe an idea to add a second (or more) coil(s), to help expand your experimental potential. Would also act as a backup in case you melt through the first one.

Looking forward to the test results, may the spirits of sacred science aid you in your quest

Making the one coil to my theoretical specifications took me easily 12 hours of labor. I was pretty meticulous with it, so making another would be quite the endeavor again. However, I have definitely theorized since the beginning how two or more coils would interact with each other. I was particularly interested in using three coils to create a true and real triad, as I feel that's where some really mystical magic could take place.

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

Making the one coil to my theoretical specifications took me easily 12 hours of labor. I was pretty meticulous with it, so making another would be quite the endeavor again. However, I have definitely theorized since the beginning how two or more coils would interact with each other. I was particularly interested in using three coils to create a true and real triad, as I feel that's where some really mystical magic could take place.

Interesting you should say that... reading some of the Billy Meier material years ago they (whoever wrote it) gave details about the craft landing with three landing gear pods or three marks left on the ground. And the grass grew in a counterclockwise direction at each landing pod or circular 'print' for months afterwards. Possibly due to disturbing the plants natural ability to determine where North and South is.

So a triad will make your grass grow funny or use it to fly with... Tango will like that!!

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by Christo888

Interesting you should say that... reading some of the Billy Meier material years ago they (whoever wrote it) gave details about the craft landing with three landing gear pods or three marks left on the ground. And the grass grew in a counterclockwise direction at each landing pod or circular 'print' for months afterwards. Possibly due to disturbing the plants natural ability to determine where North and South is.

So a triad will make your grass grow funny or use it to fly with... Tango will like that!!

I have a pendant that I usually always wear (I haven't lately as it's on hemp, and I need to make a new necklace). My best friend back in Maine made it for me out of silver through lost cast wax method (I believe that's what it's called) and gave it to me as a Xmas present when I was 18. The design naturally came to her, and she felt like I'd like it, but had no concept of what a triad was. Here is a digital illustration a recreated of it awhile back. I used it as my logo for things, and even made this really cool stamp I'd stamp things with.



Eventually I realized that this symbol meant something, and I now consider it a very powerful sign from the universe. I also usually where my ammonite shell necklace too which is a spiral which was a gift from Claudia. I consider both to powerful symbols about our universe, the spiral and the triad, and are apart of my journey to understand the nature of the universe.

Note: Just realized this was my 555th post!!! Go synchronicity!!!

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I have a pendant that I usually always wear (I haven't lately as it's on hemp, and I need to make a new necklace). My best friend back in Maine made it for me out of silver through lost cast wax method (I believe that's what it's called) and gave it to me as a Xmas present when I was 18. The design naturally came to her, and she felt like I'd like it, but had no concept of what a triad was. Here is a digital illustration a recreated of it awhile back. I used it as my logo for things, and even made this really cool stamp I'd stamp things with.



Eventually I realized that this symbol meant something, and I now consider it a very powerful sign from the universe. I also usually where my ammonite shell necklace too which is a spiral which was a gift from Claudia. I consider both to powerful symbols about our universe, the spiral and the triad, and are apart of my journey to understand the nature of the universe.

Note: Just realized this was my 555th post!!! Go synchronicity!!!

Interesting huh!





Or is there always one that goes against the grain... just to mix it up a bit.

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by dddanieljjjamesss

I see a lot of people on youtube trying to use the rodin coil to increase the electrical power and move a rod & axel, or spin a magnet or something, which from what it seems gives you a lot more power for a lot less, which is awesome as it is

but do you think anyone has tried getting it to spin itself?

i don't know what you would have to do with magnets or a way to do that in the water, but do you think it would have any effect? i think because the toroid would maintain its same shape, but increase its speed / vibration it may do something cool?

but i'm no scientist

Excellent question. Yes that is my ultimate goal, and it doesn't seem like anyone has been working on it. Because if the coil starts spinning, there will be an immediately direct energy amplification. And in terms of free energy, it can be exponential, especially when applied to a feedback loop, where it would reach some theoretical maximum speed that would only be limited by the friction within the environment/system.

I began working on a new concept today about how to make the rodin coil capacitor maybe work more effectively. I was thinking about the atom, and how the rodin coil represents the electron cloud, while the center should represent the nucleus which is positively charged.

I began thinking about an octahedron after someone mentioned to me that its possible to use a pyramid to step up voltage. I also remember a year back hearing that the Roswell craft had an octahedron in the center of it. I figured out how to wire an electromagnet octahedron that could represent the nucleus. I am working on it right now, about to wire this moment while watching The Prestige go figure haha. More later.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

Excellent question. Yes that is my ultimate goal, and it doesn't seem like anyone has been working on it. Because if the coil starts spinning, there will be an immediately direct energy amplification. And in terms of free energy, it can be exponential, especially when applied to a feedback loop, where it would reach some theoretical maximum speed that would only be limited by the friction within the environment/system.

I began working on a new concept today about how to make the rodin coil capacitor maybe work more effectively. I was thinking about the atom, and how the rodin coil represents the electron cloud, while the center should represent the nucleus which is positively charged.

I began thinking about an octahedron after someone mentioned to me that its possible to use a pyramid to step up voltage. I also remember a year back hearing that the Roswell craft had an octahedron in the center of it. I figured out how to wire an electromagnet octahedron that could represent the nucleus. I am working on it right now, about to wire this moment while watching The Prestige go figure haha. More later.

Awesome! I just watched Rodin's 2008 lecture on youtube, and was reading all of the negative, naysaying comments - as well as watching genuine attempts by people to figure out how to use the coil. And if you've seen rodin talk you know he gets "terse" as he says because he knows that people aren't totally getting it - even after 20 years of his effort. I was trying to figure out what everybody isn't getting.

So in short I almost didn't think that spinning the coil itself would do anything (just because I have no idea what I'm getting into here ) but I started asking myself "If everyone has it all backwards..." and then spinning the actual COIL made a lot more sense.

I really hope that's the thing everyone is missing! Man I'm PUMPED to see what happens.

[thetechguy]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

Excellent question. Yes that is my ultimate goal, and it doesn't seem like anyone has been working on it. Because if the coil starts spinning, there will be an immediately direct energy amplification. And in terms of free energy, it can be exponential, especially when applied to a feedback loop, where it would reach some theoretical maximum speed that would only be limited by the friction within the environment/system.

I began working on a new concept today about how to make the rodin coil capacitor maybe work more effectively. I was thinking about the atom, and how the rodin coil represents the electron cloud, while the center should represent the nucleus which is positively charged.

I began thinking about an octahedron after someone mentioned to me that its possible to use a pyramid to step up voltage. I also remember a year back hearing that the Roswell craft had an octahedron in the center of it. I figured out how to wire an electromagnet octahedron that could represent the nucleus. I am working on it right now, about to wire this moment while watching The Prestige go figure haha. More later.

Hello Gregor
If i may, i would like to make a comment for clarity, for the analisis of the energy
I agree with you about the atom model, the Rodin coil represents the electron cloud wich is a mathematical flux of ether energy

About the proton, for clarity, i suggest to see it as Nassim and Rodin has suggested
As Nassim said, the proton is in reality, not a positive mass, but a miniblack hole. He describes this on his award winning paper "the schwarzchild proton"
In this paper ,Nassim establishes using known physics, that the proton satisfies the schwarzchild condition for a black hole
The black holes are the greatest sources of gravity, and the also bend or capture electromangetic signals
So the miniblack hole AKA "proton" , is the source of the contraction of the atom, and the source of its mass gravitiy force
Rodin calls this the blackhole/whitehole relation
Rodin also claims that his coil is in reality a black hole generator, which produces also a supervortex , mathematically ordered
the PHI relation between expansion force and contraction force is what generates spiraling vortexes, or logaritmic spirals


This is VERY IMPORTANT becasuse this "mini black hole" will be one of the sources of our free energy generator
Nassim says that "if the universe is expanding , then something must be contracting, there must be a feedback loop between the radiated side and the contracting side"
(http://www.theresonanceproject.org/)

The same applies to the atom, because ,according to Nassim, the galaxy and the atom , work the same way


So we must include in our calculations, this "contracting energy" on the Rodin coil , and not just the "positive" energy of the magnetic flux due to the flow of the electrons .
Tom Bearden , call´s this , "the negative energy" , http://www.cheniere.org


I will be including some more of my ideas as they are relevant to your research

[GregorArturo]

Thanks thetechguy for all your info. I read it awhile ago, but haven't had a chance to respond. I've been real busy since I've arrived in Sedona. A lot of what you said I knew already or I just recently researched myself (as in transformers) but most of it is an excellent reminder for me as we all get caught up in tangents, especially your second post. I would really like you to stay involved. Posting on YouTube would be of real help as I feel that's where the discussion/collaboration is really going to take off.

However, since Avalon #1 is coming down, and I have no interest in participating in PA2, discussion can continue on the Mists of Avalon in the Free Energy section (http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=191) and also on YouTube.

I have still been keeping up on my research, and plan on making an octedheral type II coil, as I made a type I previously. The first runs on DC, the second on AC, and I have decided to go the alternating current route. I have also designed a theoretical new antenna based purely on the phi ratio as displayed below.



As many can see, this is directly related to the Christian Cross. Each segment is divided at the phi ratio (1.618). It's a 2D fractal form of the divine section essentially. In 3D, the cross would be pointing in all six directions, now just four. That means there would only be one central access as pictured but the side segments would be replicated into all four directions which would by lined up to the cardinal points and then planted, just like a tree (each branch in a tree branches out at the phi ratio). The lower section of the cross represents the root system and would ground the antenna. The idea is to tune into the Schumann resonance of the earth, most likely a harmonic/overtone as 7.83hz is a very low frequency, and use it to power a rodin coil. However the rodin coil as it's a toroid is a perfect dipole transmitter which can than rebroadcast the signal for the antenna to recollect (It creates a localized vortex). The system will basically keep charging itself from whence charge can be eventually drained out. I plan to use the octahedral coil in the system hopefully to keep amping up the voltage to increase the efficiency.

[GregorArturo]

Thanks thetechguy for all your info. I read it awhile ago, but haven't had a chance to respond. I've been real busy since I've arrived in Sedona. A lot of what you said I knew already or I just recently researched myself (as in transformers) but most of it is an excellent reminder for me as we all get caught up in tangents, especially your second post. I would really like you to stay involved. Posting on YouTube would be of real help as I feel that's where the discussion/collaboration is really going to take off.

However, since Avalon #1 is coming down, and I have no interest in participating in PA2, discussion can continue on the Mists of Avalon in the Free Energy section (http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=191) and also on YouTube.

I have still been keeping up on my research, and plan on making an octedheral type II coil, as I made a type I previously. The first runs on DC, the second on AC, and I have decided to go the alternating current route. I have also designed a theoretical new antenna based purely on the phi ratio as displayed below.



As many can see, this is directly related to the Christian Cross. Each segment is divided at the phi ratio (1.618). It's a 2D fractal form of the divine section essentially. In 3D, the cross would be pointing in all six directions, now just four. That means there would only be one central access as pictured but the side segments would be replicated into all four directions which would by lined up to the cardinal points and then planted, just like a tree. The lower section of the cross represents the root system and would ground the antenna. The idea is to tune into the Schumann resonance of the earth, most likely a harmonic/overtone as 7.83hz is a very low frequency, and use it to power a rodin coil. However the rodin coil as it's a toroid is a perfect dipole transmitter which can than rebroadcast the signal for the antenna to recollect (It creates a localized vortex). The system will basically keep charging itself from whence charge can be eventually drained out. I plan to use the octahedral coil in the system hopefully to keep amping up the voltage to increase the efficiency.