Jordanus Maximus and Why I Have Trouble Taking Project Camelot Seriously Anymore

[waitinginthewings]

I listened to an interview with him on Coast to Coast recently (or I should say part of the interview). I stopped listening about half way through, because he was constantly ranting about the "stupid sheep" and many other derogratory terms about people. I believe it embarrased George Noory, who said "nothing" in the vain hope that Jordan might give up his rant, but he didn't.

This to me speaks volumes about who or what Jordan is. The first rant I let it go, but when he kept it up, I dismissed him as not worthy to listen to. He speaks from the height of arrogance, & frequently reminds us of how many years he has spent researching....blah, blah, blah. That we are all lazy etc.

Yes people, get it straight, Jordan has the truth, the whole truth & nothing but a lot of inflated ego.

[HORIZONS]

My experience is that TRUE religion is within you, within each of us, and that we must go within to find that Truth. All external religion is bogus, for though we may find facts about the truth "out there" somewhere, we will only find the Truth within our own consciousness. Anything or anyone that causes you to seek in the external realms for the Truth is misdirecting you. So when JM says that all religion is a lie he is half right -- all external religion is the lie, and is meant to control you in some way or another. Every Mystic and Sage has known this throughout all time.

Peace~

[Traverser]

Hi All,

I've had the same thought myself over Jordan Maxwell and his message.

There's a similar Thread here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18024
And here was my reply on that thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...193#post251193

What I have trouble with, is the message that not only Jordan Mawell is offering but also the likes of Alex Jones, David Icke, Michael Tsarion et al.
It leaves all this, well, sort of hanging in the air so to speak.
The afore mentioned people I do believe have hit on something but what they've done has brought this to our attention, and as we know; "Thoughts Are Things".

So What Now..?

That's the BIG Question!
The message I feel I'm left with, a lot of the time is one of pasifism, which in theory I'm not against at all. However, what are we actually achieving.

A 'Rage Against The Machine' is totally out of the question. It'd be a 'No Win' situation.
Besides, They've all the best toys.

Would it be too much to expect that one, preferably all to step forward and perhaps be, not so much leaders but figure-heads for 'Peaceful Non-Conformance'?

I suppose like a lot of us, they're perhaps too wrapped up in this 'Matrix' to actually step up to the plate and do something about it, they have bills to pay to y'know.
So on with the speaking circuits and radio show's, it must be.

And for me?
Well, for the time being I'll continue to; as Mahatma Gandhi said: "Be the change you want to see in the world."

Love and Light to All.

Namaste,
Trav.

[nostrovia]

Brian En:

The most difficult ones are the conspiracies within the conspiracies. Motives are hard to deduce in the people in the public eye unless there are hard core facts.

Great points. Thanks for sharing. I believe you're right about these conspiracies within conspiracies. I've been suprised about what I've found in that you hear something you think is the truth, then you peel another layer back and you find it isn't the truth at all, then you need to peel that onion again to get at the truth. I've seen this in the areas of medicine, sciences, history, you name it.

I think we have a human tendency us truth seekers which gets us into a lot of trouble. That is that when we see a problem in the world we seek the truth, so we look for the people speaking against the thing we think is wrong, and because they speak against it we're more likely to let our guard down and believe what they say without as much question. They seem to come across as the good guys! But, unfortunately I've found that there's a layer of disinformation there designed to trap the truthies and distract them. Jordan and other's like him I feel are part of that. For example I used to love and believe Gregg Braden until I found that just about everything he says is miscommunicated balony and fiction. The only thing I still like about him is his commentary on the "lost mode of prayer", though even that smacks a bit of the new age movement.

Here's a quick expose on Braden too. Gregg Braden Debunked:

[joe2288]

Originally Posted by nostrovia

Traverser:



Great points. Thanks for sharing. I believe you're right about these conspiracies within conspiracies. I've been suprised about what I've found in that you hear something you think is the truth, then you peel another layer back and you find it isn't the truth at all, then you need to peel that onion again to get at the truth. I've seen this in the areas of medicine, sciences, history, you name it.

I think we have a human tendency us truth seekers which gets us into a lot of trouble. That is that when we see a problem in the world we seek the truth, so we look for the people speaking against the thing we think is wrong, and because they speak against it we're more likely to let our guard down and believe what they say without as much question. They seem to come across as the good guys! But, unfortunately I've found that there's a layer of disinformation there designed to trap the truthies and distract them. Jordan and other's like him I feel are part of that. For example I used to love and believe Gregg Braden until I found that just about everything he says is miscommunicated balony and fiction. The only thing I still like about him is his commentary on the "lost mode of prayer", though even that smacks a bit of the new age movement.

Here's a quick expose on Braden too. Gregg Braden Debunked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rkwQgeJcFs

So how do we know this guy has any validity and he isn't some insider

trying to discredit people

[Traverser]

Originally Posted by joe2288

So how do we know this guy has any validity and he isn't some insider

trying to discredit people

Hi Joe,

To whom do you refer?

nostrovia? Braden? or Myself?

Just to clarify my friend, I Don't understand who you mean..!

Love and Light,

Trav.

[joe2288]

Originally Posted by Traverser

Hi Joe,

To whom do you refer?

nostrovia? Braden? or Myself?

Just to clarify my friend, I Don't understand who you mean..!

Love and Light,

Trav.

The guy who made this movieJordan Maxwell - Water of Grace, Water of Life

I do not agree with Jorden Maxwell either, but he discredits too many people

in other movies I believe he is just trying to create factions in the

alternative communities.

[nostrovia]

Hey joe2288,

Thanks for commenting. I've been watching the Chris White videos and listening to a ton of his podcasts recently, well in the last about 3 months, and from my experience he's genuinely trying to share what he's found. He definitely discredits some folks, but he also supports a lot of others, and by discrediting I believe he's genuinely trying to help people see a truth that he found and not create factions. He's really honest about his intent. He's also a truth seeker and was caught up in believing a lot of the hype from the Jordan Maxwell's of the world.

Just thought I'd give you my take on him since I used his videos a lot since they're so succinct and I've found reliable.

[micjer]

[Traverser]

Originally Posted by joe2288

The guy who made this movieJordan Maxwell - Water of Grace, Water of Life

I do not agree with Jorden Maxwell either, but he discredits too many people

in other movies I believe he is just trying to create factions in the

alternative communities.

Hi Joe,

I get you now, Thanks for clearing that up for me...

There is a lot of conflicting information out there, you're right.
One huge melting pot, my friend.

However, the power behind the scene's pulling the strings, well, they've had a bit of a head start on us. Millenia if we've to believe what we're told.

So as in any melting pot, the scum should rise to the top where it's easily removed.

Love and Light to All

Namaste,
Trav.