Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited

[mntruthseeker]

OMG you have me in stitches LionHawk

I hear what you mean about the so called enlightened ones on this forum

They probally have me on ignore but I dont care. I speak my mind and let no one blind me with the enlightened BS when they send nasty PMs. I can feel the true light

So hillarious. I am not pointing the finger or contacting mods as thats not my style. I speak my mind and think that it is them that harrass the mods over every little thing. Oh ban this one or that one.

I personally believe that more than one person felt intimidated by Abrax. You could see it in the words traded back and forth

I hardly read anything of his past the first page and then just read other remarks until I decided it was not for me until you put something in the thread. Bad mistake for me to go back in there.

No he never was anything but respectfull to me but that doesnt mean someone was treated otherwise. I was only frightened when he said he asked for help for me and I actually got scared remembering what had happened the prior night. Thats all Im saying. I just moved on

I look at some of his strongest supporters and they are names I do not recognized and so I look at the time they joined. Dec 09 ......funny how that works.

The Mods are not going to pull down his site if they didnt get some sort of evidence of what happened. Doesnt take a rocket science to see it was on its way

Anyhow Thanks for the laugh

[bigmo]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I look at some of his strongest supporters and they are names I do not recognized and so I look at the time they joined. Dec 09 ......funny how that works.

What was your conclusion trutheeker? I suppose that this is your logic:

1 Person joins in December
2 Abraxas joins in December
3 All persons joining in December must be 'Dragons' like Abraxas

Now that is some empirical reasoning here truthseeker... thanks for your incite.

Oh by the way the 'Abraxas supporters' were really 'free speech supporters' go back and read the post supporting Abraxas... ooops... that's right ... they are... BANNED...

Hmmm... how handy for you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

hmmm just did a search on Bamboo and this came up in the first choice...

The other positive aspect of bamboo is its ability to ward off evil spirits/ghost and harmful people who wants to sabotage you. It provide strong protection for you against any form of harm...

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

hmmm just did a search on Bamboo and this came up in the first choice...

Sounds like good advise

BIgmo.....here is his website if you miss him...

http://tonyb.freeyellow.com/id105.html

follow to your hearts content. And let those here heal now.

[ewhite]

It is all too interesting, all the attacks, all of the division. I mean most here are aware of the current change our reality is going through but to see it on such a micro scale such as this forum in the past couple of months is mind boggling and has been a tremendous eye opener.

If this all is a precursor to what is to come... I am lost for words. It is all deeply saddening to me. This forum in all the time I have been watching was always a kind of beacon of "love and light" filling at the very least a small number of people with a renewed respect for what humans are capable of if we are mindful.

My hope is that everything soon returns to "normal" but if not I wish nothing but the best to each and every member.... keep on keeping on


Much love,

-E

[K626]

Originally Posted by ewhite

It is all too interesting, all the attacks, all of the division. I mean most here are aware of the current change our reality is going through but to see it on such a micro scale such as this forum in the past couple of months is mind boggling and has been a tremendous eye opener.

If this all is a precursor to what is to come... I am lost for words. It is all deeply saddening to me. This forum in all the time I have been watching was always a kind of beacon of "love and light" filling at the very least a small number of people with a renewed respect for what humans are capable of if we are mindful.

My hope is that everything soon returns to "normal" but if not I wish nothing but the best to each and every member.... keep on keeping on


Much love,

-E

We are entering a time where two distinct sides will form..This place is no different.

[5thElement]

Originally Posted by ewhite

It is all too interesting, all the attacks, all of the division. I mean most here are aware of the current change our reality is going through but to see it on such a micro scale such as this forum in the past couple of months is mind boggling and has been a tremendous eye opener.

If this all is a precursor to what is to come... I am lost for words. It is all deeply saddening to me. This forum in all the time I have been watching was always a kind of beacon of "love and light" filling at the very least a small number of people with a renewed respect for what humans are capable of if we are mindful.

My hope is that everything soon returns to "normal" but if not I wish nothing but the best to each and every member.... keep on keeping on

Perfect ewhite - perfect timing and perfect words

Unite all - we're all in this together!

El

[Rocky_Shorz]

Abraxas Reader
Unless otherwise noted, the author of each essay retains its copyright.
Otherwise, copyright 1980/81 by The Congregation of Abraxas

I guess the Abraxas that joined our forum feels the demonic faiths should be included

[Lionhawk]

This is a test for sure and you can see what is being tested. If the foundation sucks and is reinforced with just mud to cover up the cracks, when a real storm hits, those cracks will be exposed for what they are. All the superficial mud is falling off and the true essence of what is here is being exposed. If you want it to get back to the way it was, we will have to do this all over again down the road. I hate doing things twice. I said in the Thuban Thoughts thread that many lessons are coming our way from this Thuban scenario. Here they are. Just don't forget where you have been in all of this.

I think the peanut gallery has left the building. There is still a clean up that needs to be mopped up and the wounded need some serious attention. While many will just go home, many of us will work through the night to work on the wounded as it is often never done in one dressing.

Blessings to All

Originally Posted by ewhite

It is all too interesting, all the attacks, all of the division. I mean most here are aware of the current change our reality is going through but to see it on such a micro scale such as this forum in the past couple of months is mind boggling and has been a tremendous eye opener.

If this all is a precursor to what is to come... I am lost for words. It is all deeply saddening to me. This forum in all the time I have been watching was always a kind of beacon of "love and light" filling at the very least a small number of people with a renewed respect for what humans are capable of if we are mindful.

My hope is that everything soon returns to "normal" but if not I wish nothing but the best to each and every member.... keep on keeping on


Much love,

-E

[Stardustaquarion]

I like where things are going now

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

This is a test for sure and you can see what is being tested. If the foundation sucks and is reinforced with just mud to cover up the cracks, when a real storm hits, those cracks will be exposed for what they are. All the superficial mud is falling off and the true essence of what is here is being exposed. If you want it to get back to the way it was, we will have to do this all over again down the road. I hate doing things twice. I said in the Thuban Thoughts thread that many lessons are coming our way from this Thuban scenario. Here they are. Just don't forget where you have been in all of this.

I think the peanut gallery has left the building. There is still a clean up that needs to be mopped up and the wounded need some serious attention. While many will just go home, many of us will work through the night to work on the wounded as it is often never done in one dressing.

Blessings to All

Oh, the faux nobility. The real heros leave their egos at the door. stick a log in the old...pipe

[islandman]

In a controversy the instant we feel anger
we have already ceased striving for the truth,
and have begun striving for ourselves.
Buddha

In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west;
people create distinctions out of their own minds
and then believe them to be true.
Buddha

Those who are free of resentful thoughts
surely find peace.
Buddha

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by ewhite

It is all too interesting, all the attacks, all of the division. I mean most here are aware of the current change our reality is going through but to see it on such a micro scale such as this forum in the past couple of months is mind boggling and has been a tremendous eye opener.

If this all is a precursor to what is to come... I am lost for words. It is all deeply saddening to me. This forum in all the time I have been watching was always a kind of beacon of "love and light" filling at the very least a small number of people with a renewed respect for what humans are capable of if we are mindful.

ewhite,

Your post is excellent.

By the way the forum is STILL a beacon of love and light, and by our collective intent we should keep it that way.

AJ..

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Anchor

ewhite,

Your post is excellent.

By the way the forum is STILL a beacon of love and light, and by our collective intent we should keep it that way.

AJ..

we agree ~ it is important that all of us, help one another - that is the biggest purpose of all

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by ewhite

It is all too interesting, all the attacks, all of the division. I mean most here are aware of the current change our reality is going through but to see it on such a micro scale such as this forum in the past couple of months is mind boggling and has been a tremendous eye opener.

If this all is a precursor to what is to come... I am lost for words. It is all deeply saddening to me. This forum in all the time I have been watching was always a kind of beacon of "love and light" filling at the very least a small number of people with a renewed respect for what humans are capable of if we are mindful.

My hope is that everything soon returns to "normal" but if not I wish nothing but the best to each and every member.... keep on keeping on


Much love,

-E

Avalon has been and still is, the playing field for a test. Everyone will have their own interpretations, likely, but here's mine. The test was about whether/how differing viewpoints/perspectives can co-exist in harmony, without one having to convert the other to it's side. simple allowance. The experiment was not entirely successful yet.

The sides were not drawn along lines clearly visible to all participants. Those who sought to ban/bar/disallow/expunge/reject/repell/avoid/fear/control, automatically elected anyone opposed to their actions, as supporters of the side they opposed.

Look that one over once. This was never about Pro Thuban vs Anti Thuban. It was about Anti Thuban vs Get out of everybodies hair and leave them alone.

You see how polarization works? I'm against that. so if you are against me and my actions, then you support that, and how could you even?????? Stupid assumptions. That is no different from the Neo Nazi Skin head yelling Jew lover, because someone stands up for a jew being unfairly treated.

I for example have never supported the Council of Thuban materials, only the right of Abraxasinas to present them, and for people to have the opportunity to review and make their own discernments about the material and the presenter.

But that is unacceptable to the fearful. They are afraid that some information is going to hurt people. they are afraid that some presenter is going to hypnotize or possess or enslave the unwary. Why do these people have to paint everybody else with THEIR fears?

And when they couldn't get away with removing what offended them by frontal attack, they went covert and worked behind the scenes. I'm not saying the alleged harassment was manufactured, and I'm not saying it wasn't. I have no idea, as I wasn't there, and didn't see anything suspicious, and no evidence has presented. So I don't know.

But the offended sure do. They know all about this. There are injured, hurt people here!!! Oh yeah? show me one of them. Oops. Can't. they're shy, but it happened!!! I just know it did, because, well, that's what people like that do. I've seen it before. Somebody like him made my sister very nervous once, and it was just awful.

No discernment. just assumption, speculation, projection, suspicion, etc.

And the anti's now say No harm done. everyone got what they wanted. Abrax has his following, which can following him the hell outta here, where decent folk don't have to be exposed to it, and they can read his BS over there.

Well, no. That's just not acceptable. People have the right to do their own discernment, and if they don't, they will before I'm done. Either that, or the villagers will turn their pitch forks on moi and drum me outta dodge too, which wouldn't cause any sleep loss. Who want's to hang around with intolerant witch hunters, Arm chair dragon slayers, or pulpit bashing preachers?

Avalon appears to be a good year in the rest of the planet's future. What we are working out here, will lay one pathway that the rest following along will be able to trace when they get to this point in their collective journeys. We have to work this stuff out better than this. If they get to this point and run into these types of issues, it would be nice to have a piloted solution to serve up. "You can do this, it's worked before." But not if the chicken Shytes won't let the trial run complete.

[Steven]

Originally Posted by ewhite

It is all too interesting, all the attacks, all of the division. I mean most here are aware of the current change our reality is going through but to see it on such a micro scale such as this forum in the past couple of months is mind boggling and has been a tremendous eye opener.

If this all is a precursor to what is to come... I am lost for words. It is all deeply saddening to me. This forum in all the time I have been watching was always a kind of beacon of "love and light" filling at the very least a small number of people with a renewed respect for what humans are capable of if we are mindful.

My hope is that everything soon returns to "normal" but if not I wish nothing but the best to each and every member.... keep on keeping on


Much love,

-E

It's not that bad. Perception is often mirrored by our own "interest"...

Namaste, Steven

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by bigmo

What was your conclusion trutheeker? I suppose that this is your logic:

1 Person joins in December
2 Abraxas joins in December
3 All December joiners must be 'Dragons' like Abraxas

Now that is some empirical reasoning here truthseeker... thanks for your incite.

Oh by the way the 'Abraxas supporters' were really 'free speech supporters' go back and read the post supporting Abraxas... ooops... that's right ... they are... BANNED...

Hmmm... how handy for you.

I do support free speech. I said I left the tread. I only went in to see what someone had written when I recognised his name

I LEFT HIS THREAD. I wanted no part but certainly didnt feel others could not go in there. Why would I ?

Yes it was an observation and also the fact that I read that there was a yahoo group with him that was here. That is what I based that on and all these dec 09 dates were his strongest supporters.
Exchanger has made such remarks but I just noticed she says she didnt invite him on another thread she put up about Ashayana Deane.



I have never been attacked before I spoke up against Abrax, seriously and I can't say it was his doing. But the next morning he said he asked for help for me and I got the chills. Even more so now that I read others were attacked. I was attacked and my friend confirmed it after we discussed it. I never wrote what happen in this forum.....only that something did happen

I asked for help from a personal friend and prayed hard and went through a few weeks where I felt my head was swimming.

I listened to all of the supporters and felt maybe it was because I just wasnt in the know to follow his words.

I tired to make sense of all of this on my own and I really do not care anymore.

You can go anywhere you like because thats your perogative.

I will not say he sexually attacked someone in the forum because I dont know what happen. In the same token, I will not say someone is making it up.

I dont find it convient that the thread being down would contradict anything I write. Everyone knows I speak my mind.

So make what ever assumptions of that you want



Had to edit this to add something.

The very first posting that Abrax wrote, I did pm someone to say how I felt and was told he was a personal friend of Susans and to drop it

So my speculation were confirmed back in Dec