Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited

[lightblue]

Myplanet2 wrote

We are multidimensional. We exist on multiple levels at the same time. On some level, we are creators of our reality. Look at all the suffering. Does that come from without, or from within? I've run most of my own this lifetime drama's of this sort, and in each instance, discovered not only my turn as victim, but also as perp, and then also my decision on a soul/higher self level, to arrange these experiences, including the recruiting of other players. There are no accidents, including traffic accidents, although when you're in one, you can't see how this was arranged and how you thought it would be a good idea.

Nothing in my comments or viewpoints tries to negate the actual hurt, or pain, or trauma. Simply the idea that it came from without. That's never happened, and never will. Impossible, actually.

And again, this is on a different frequency of reality, which is largely hidden from the experiencer.

so we just let the bullies run a riot..and all is just fine...and because it is decided on another, unpercieveable dimension anyway ...

spiritually irresponsible - this theory


p. s. won't someone get bill?

bw l



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[Stardustaquarion]

I personally think there is a moral issue if we are aware that someone is hurting others and we let them

I think that when we do not do anything we become acomplices of the offenders specially if we perceive that the victims do not have the ability to handle the issues themselves

We are one big body that encompases the planet, we have to care for each other without intruding and respecting each others boundaries otherwise there will be a very grim future for us as we rapidly seem to be going towards our self demise as race

The planet and all that is in the planet is suffering mostly because of our own abuse, are we going to destroy it all for the sake of free will?

Free will does not mean free for all and when we abuse the energy laws we are left wanting and eventually dry...think about it

What benefit is this whole discussion bringing to the beings in this planet?

Isn't is only bringing disharmony that eventually will manifest as more destruction?

We can not turn our heads anymore, we must do what is balanced for the highest good of all

Love to all

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

I personally think there is a moral issue if we are aware that someone is hurting others and we let them

I think that when we do not do anything we become acomplices of the offenders specially if we perceive that the victims do not have the ability to handle the issues themselves

We are one big body that encompases the planet, we have to care for each other without intruding and respecting each others boundaries otherwise there will be a very grim future for us as we rapidly seem to be going towards our self demise as race

The planet and all that is in the planet is suffering mostly because of our own abuse, are we going to destroy it all for the sake of free will?

Free will does not mean free for all and when we abuse the energy laws we are left wanting and eventually dry...think about it

What benefit is this whole discussion bringing to the beings in this planet?

Isn't is only bringing disharmony that eventually will manifest as more destruction?

We can not turn our heads anymore, we must do what is balanced for the highest good of all

Love to all

Once again .................another great post by StarDust. It happens so much lately, I keep saying , I'm done but Im right back in here. Why, because there are people like you, LionHawk and others that truly do care.

Thanks

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by lightblue

Myplanet2 wrote



so we just let the bullies run a riot..and all is just fine...and because it is decided on another, unpercieveable dimension anyway ...

spiritually irresponsible - this theory


p. s. won't someone get bill?

bw

We have full free will and ability to manifest whatever we want, including bullies. The bullies volunteer, the bullied volunteer, and the law of attraction puts the pieces together. You can believe it's not so all you like. That won't change it. This is the current template, and we all signed up for it, if we're here.

There is no such thing as spiritually irresponsible. Any more than there is victim. There is free will and choice, even when they are used to deny oneself free will and choice. Nobody else can do it.

[tacodog]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

We have full free will and ability to manifest whatever we want, including bullies. The bullies volunteer, the bullied volunteer, and the law of attraction puts the pieces together. You can believe it's not so all you like. That won't change it. This is the current template, and we all signed up for it, if we're here.

There is no such thing as spiritually irresponsible. Any more than there is victim. There is free will and choice, even when they are used to deny oneself free will and choice. Nobody else can do it.

What if, and I say if, you are half right? What if our "soul" our "free will" has been imprisoned by who knows what. When we expire (in this 3d world) we are then reprogrammed to either be the victim, the bully, or whatever "it"/"they" like (harvested) and then sent back to 3d so we can keep performing for it/them in the 3d world, perhaps feeding them energy? Just a thought.

[Kulapops]

You know, I swore I wasn't going to log on today...

However, on logging on , I found that my consciousness had created a twelve page thread on Abraxinas in my two day absence.

I could almost swear that I had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever... but that all depends on how you believe the universe works.

Wow. "What is it trying to tell me?", I wondered.

I mean I could have logged in and found everyone talking about small fluffy animals, or the latest sweet potato curry recipe.

But no, it seems that after a week of downed forums and an argument (perhaps) between our foster parents, what my wonderful subconsciousness, or the subconsciousness of the universe (for they are the same , innit?) wants is... more of the same.

As in, same poo, different day. Can I even say 'poo' here? Don't wish to be scattalogically offensive.

Anyway, I thought Abraxinas originally had something to do with Abraxas, one of my altime favourite albums by Santana. Check it out if you have Spotify or some such.

When my first glance at the original thread revealed that this was not about slashing guitar solos, I wandered away. Because I don't generally understand or 'get' channeled or privy information that can only be got from a single source.

In my life, truth is a truth wherever you find it, and discovery of that truth is a truth for all, if I tell you about it, you should be able to verify for yourself that it is indeed a truth for you too. You may have noticed, but these kinds of truth are quite small on the ground, and generally quite simple.

Would anyone here deny the existence of love? Of how it feels, to feel love for someone, or to feel loved by someone. To feel love for the human race, or for plants, or animals or rocks, or parsnips?

So I'm fairly happy in my own mind that love is a truth. What point would there be in me discussing anything else that I'm not sure of?

Well, love and music. That's two truths for me then.

well, love, music, and sunshine..makes you feel good, that's three truths,

Love, music, sunshine and a sense of community.

Er, I'll come in again... [Monty Python's spanish inquisition reference ]

A sense of community. That would be nice. That's why I log in, because I'm willing to believe that a sense of community is what the human race is missing. I don't know this. This last one is an exploration. That's why I joined.

See? I've got my hand up. Anyone else looking for that too?

To see that the human race is one community, the 'good' and the 'bad' is to place us all in the same boat. there is no them, there is no us, there is no 'shesaid...' there is no 'hesaid...' whatever you like about A, you like about yourself. Whatever you dislike about B, you detest in yourself. This is a simple truth that is working for me.

So how can I be angry about him or her, how can I say this to them (me?) ?

In the words of that Radiohead song (you do it to yourself, you do..you and no one else)

Peace and love to you all,

K

P.S. I'm putting in an order to my subconscious about small fluffy white animals and recipes next time I'm away.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Kulapops

You know, I swore I wasn't going to log on today...

However, on logging on , I found that my consciousness had created a twelve page thread on Abraxinas in my two day absence.

I could almost swear that I had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever... but that all depends on how you believe the universe works.

Wow. "What is it trying to tell me?", I wondered.

I mean I could have logged in and found everyone talking about small fluffy animals, or the latest sweet potato curry recipe.

But no, it seems that after a week of downed forums and an argument (perhaps) between our foster parents, what my wonderful subconsciousness, or the subconsciousness of the universe (for they are the same , innit?) wants is... more of the same.

As in, same poo, different day. Can I even say 'poo' here? Don't wish to be scattalogically offensive.

Anyway, I thought Abraxinas originally had something to do with Abraxas, one of my altime favourite albums by Santana. Check it out if you have Spotify or some such.

When my first glance at the original thread revealed that this was not about slashing guitar solos, I wandered away. Because I don't generally understand or 'get' channeled or privy information that can only be got from a single source.

In my life, truth is a truth wherever you find it, and discovery of that truth is a truth for all, if I tell you about it, you should be able to verify for yourself that it is indeed a truth for you too. You may have noticed, but these kinds of truth are quite small on the ground, and generally quite simple.

Would anyone here deny the existence of love? Of how it feels, to feel love for someone, or to feel loved by someone. To feel love for the human race, or for plants, or animals or rocks, or parsnips?

So I'm fairly happy in my own mind that love is a truth. What point would there be in me discussing anything else that I'm not sure of?

Well, love and music. That's two truths for me then.

well, love, music, and sunshine..makes you feel good, that's three truths,

Love, music, sunshine and a sense of community.

Er, I'll come in again... [Monty Python's spanish inquisition reference ]

A sense of community. That would be nice. That's why I log in, because I'm willing to believe that a sense of community is what the human race is missing. I don't know this. This last one is an exploration. That's why I joined.

See? I've got my hand up. Anyone else looking for that too?

To see that the human race is one community, the 'good' and the 'bad' is to place us all in the same boat. there is no them, there is no us, there is no 'shesaid...' there is no 'hesaid...' whatever you like about A, you like about yourself. Whatever you dislike about B, you detest in yourself. This is a simple truth that is working for me.

So how can I be angry about him or her, how can I say this to them (me?) ?

In the words of that Radiohead song (you do it to yourself, you do..you and no one else)

Peace and love to you all,

K

P.S. I'm putting in an order to my subconscious about small fluffy white animals and recipes next time I'm away.

My hand is up on community. We just have some bumps to iron out on the way. The idea of "what bumps" is getting harder to maintain.

[Carol]

Reposting other member's sexually offensive posts is equally offensive and all such posts need to be reported to the moderators.

The Thuban thread has been moved to the moderator's area where it cannot be viewed by the members, not deleted.

[Unified Serenity]

Wait, can you hear it?


It's a sucking sound of energy draining. People are distracted and their energy is being sucked by this chaos. Again, complete waste of time and energy to keep this going.

Chaos was the purpose and the sheeple fall into it so easily.

US

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by tacodog

What if, and I say if, you are half right? What if our "soul" our "free will" has been imprisoned by who knows what. When we expire (in this 3d world) we are then reprogrammed to either be the victim, the bully, or whatever "it"/"they" like (harvested) and then sent back to 3d so we can keep performing for it/them in the 3d world, perhaps feeding them energy? Just a thought.

And it's a legit question. (BTW, ODM? Is that you???) But no, it's not like that, unless of course you've contracted with some entity or entity group to perform just such a mirroring exercise for you. Free will always. even and especially when it appears otherwise.

From your higher seats of consciousness, you know everything you could possibly want to. As you contact and start to restore your connections in that regard, you become rather fool proof, because your true self knows what is truly going on, and knows of it's experiments and "arrangements".

If you believe you have some question about whether there is a hidden hand up your butt (metaphorically speaking) then it's easy enough to discern, provided you can hear the answer. You simply ask. Just picture yourself turning around and demanding "hey!!...you there in the bushes!!...show and identify yourself." It has no choice but to comply, but don't be surprised to hear "you asked for it".