The Jonathan Reed Hoax - Project Camelot impersonation on YouTube

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Dear All:

I just wrote this e-mail to Mel Fabregas, and felt I should also copy it here for reasons that wil be clear.

Hi, Mel -

Kerry was kind enough to forward your message to her below. My own e-mail address is this one. Kerry is still able to see all mails sent to the bill@projectcamelot.org address, and that’s fine with me.

It’s as clear as day that Camelot is being taken down. We crossed several lines back in the summer - as I detailed in my post half way down page 1 of the thread here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...3&postcount=10

There you will see a serious and highly plausible summary analysis. [Note that the s**t has hit the fan even FURTHER since I published that summary.]

This is no trivial personal disagreement: it goes right to the heart (on several counts) of everything that we stand for (and which you and many others do, too). Passions are raised to white heat because we care so much.

Our child (Camelot) is being tortured and killed... please forgive the grim metaphor, but that is what it feels like. Neither of us put four years of our lives into this so that we could reach this place.

I salute you for your even keel, your dedication, and for your excellent interviewing skills. It’s clear why you are well respected. Speaking personally (just because I’m writing this) I regard you as a friend who intends the best.

Re Laughlin, I was not there (as you know), so I do not know what happened. I tried to look on your private forum but (like many others) couldn’t enter to see what had actually been written and by whom.

As far as I am concerned you can forward or re-post this statement anywhere at any time.

With all best wishes, Bill

Bill, you can read this and then think on it or simply take it with a pinch of salt. Not my job to convince you or anyone. But from my perspective, and that of my handlers, working within certain circles, we are seeing certain aspects which are worrying. You mention above about crossing lines, boy whom has not in this line of work. What neither yourself nor Kerry did was to stand back and look at the queue forming of 'insiders' ready and willing to spill the beans for Camelot. I should refrain from name calling as I'm sure you and Kerry will state you are comfortable with the way certain individuals have approached you, given interviews, and have embedded themselves into the regular Camelot 'family'. Perhaps neither of you thought about WHY these 'insiders' suddenly formed that queue to see you guys and get their testimony on film? No one here will accept what I'm saying, some say I'm p****** in the wind in this area BUT from the inside I too see whats happening, whether anyone cares to believe is up to them. Just a friendly warning from one whom sees more than most. Camelot ran into problems the minute certain 'insiders' got their feet in the door and got their feet under the table. I refer specifically to DB, BD, PP. Too many cooks spoil the broth, too many docs spoil the disclosure. Think my friend. Barry

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Bill, you can read this and then think on it or simply take it with a pinch of salt. I refer specifically to DB, BD, PP. Too many cooks spoil the broth, too many docs spoil the disclosure. Think my friend. Barry

Hey Barry...I often thought about this also...

Once one problem gets close to Camelot...they vouch for the next problem

It's an incestuous problem now...but in B&K's line of work....Who can you trust??

Once there is a buy in for one or 2 folks .....trust becomes thinner as it branches out from the original trusted source.

Well DB vouched for the guy and I trust DB....so the guy has to be on the up and up.

I'm just speculating....I don't know what the process really is.

The web for FOBs and FOKs (Friend of Bill...Friend of Kerry) becomes a web of lies once infiltrated

Peace Y'all

[pilot]

Let's take a moment to look on the bright side, shall we? The damage has been done...not to the ground crew, but to the PTB! A dynamic group has formed around the truth-seeking efforts of two individuals, much community building and discourse has taken place, people of like minds from around the globe have joined together, made friends, shared and awakened together. I was under the impression that project Avalon was about community building, not a black-ops whistle-blower fan club...we have on the boards at this time so many tools to create new ways of being in our respective spheres...what's the prob? Getting embroiled in drama is not what we came here for, is it??

I am sorry Bill and Kerry are having a difficult time, and I wish them well. I say we stop giving so much power to the shadows, these numb-nuts only have it because we give it to them. I am sure there are those who would disagree with me on that point, but I can only speak from my own experience.

I am grateful to all members here and to Bill and Kerry-"they" cannot take away or destroy what has been created here-too late PTB You hopefully realize that you are NOT on the winning side...

Peace

[Lightpotential]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

What neither yourself nor Kerry did was to stand back and look at the queue forming of 'insiders' ready and willing to spill the beans for Camelot. I should refrain from name calling as I'm sure you and Kerry will state you are comfortable with the way certain individuals have approached you, given interviews, and have embedded themselves into the regular Camelot 'family'. Perhaps neither of you thought about WHY these 'insiders' suddenly formed that queue to see you guys and get their testimony on film? No one here will accept what I'm saying, some say I'm p****** in the wind in this area BUT from the inside I too see whats happening, whether anyone cares to believe is up to them. Just a friendly warning from one whom sees more than most. Camelot ran into problems the minute certain 'insiders' got their feet in the door and got their feet under the table. I refer specifically to DB, BD, PP. Too many cooks spoil the broth, too many docs spoil the disclosure. Think my friend. Barry

Dear Watcher,

I agree completely with your assessment here. And it was bound to happen. It could not really have played out any other way for PC. The more successful, the more people would be approaching Bill and Kerry. As I am sure you realise, one thing in insuring that you are not being taken for a ride - at least an important thing - is the question of who exactly approaches whom?

If Bill or Kerry looked at someone's work and thought it sound, and approached them, then that would be far more credible than if somebody sought them out.

I would say that what is really lacking with PC are the researchers to back up the stories of the whistleblowers. This is critical for me. For the latter do indeed simply 'tell stories' e.g. I was at a deep underground military base once, turned a corner, and saw an 8 foot tall alien with weird eyes etc... Of what value is this kind of testimony, when put on the internet by an anonymous source behind a fake name?

I personally like researchers more than whistleblowers. I like people like Joseph Farrell for example. Or even Patrick Geryl. Now indeed, of the latter, I do not believe his catastrophic theories of 2012, but I respect that he lays out his theories and you can judge them.

If PC is to have any real strength of credibility (of its whistleblowers), it needs to have solid researchers back up the science behind some of the more 'fantastic claims' of the whistleblowers themselves. When a man like Henry Deacon says "I went to Mars", I want to know how? I want to know something of the science behind such a transportation. Without that, he is just telling a story. And lets face it, I do not know this man. Not really. And this is the position that most people here who participate on this forum are in.

LP

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by Lightpotential

Dear Watcher,


I would say that what is really lacking with PC are the researchers to back up the stories of the whistleblowers. This is critical for me. For the latter do indeed simply 'tell stories' e.g. I was at a deep underground military base once, turned a corner, and saw an 8 foot tall alien with weird eyes etc... Of what value is this kind of testimony, when put on the internet by an anonymous source behind a fake name?

I personally like researchers more than whistleblowers. I like people like Joseph Farrell for example. Or even Patrick Geryl. Now indeed, of the latter, I do not believe his catastrophic theories of 2012, but I respect that he lays out his theories and you can judge them.

If PC is to have any real strength of credibility (of its whistleblowers), it needs to have solid researchers back up the science behind some of the more 'fantastic claims' of the whistleblowers themselves. When a man like Henry Deacon says "I went to Mars", I want to know how? I want to know something of the science behind such a transportation. Without that, he is just telling a story. And lets face it, I do not know this man. Not really. And this is the position that most people here who participate on this forum are in.

LP

agree with this statement. today was the first bright sunny day in england in a long time. i made a planter for the garden wall and sipped tea on a chair in the garden. i wondered what plants i might put in it and how wonderful it will look in summer. i could feel the positivity and warmth flooding out of me like a lighthouse. perhaps all concerned should take afew days off once all the website changes are completed. this is the stuff thats equally important. taking time to smell the flowers, look at the sky , listen to the birds. soak it all in!!

[Lily de Cuir]

Hi Everyone, and Hi Bill + Kerry,

I am a bit of a lurker here and don't make comments. But I must say I feel very uncomfortable with what is happening with PC. The website being split in two etc.

Clearly there is a massive undercurrent of misunderstanding and/or conflict. While I understand these things happen, it doesn't feel good to me and I don't think things are being through rationally. Especially the bit about funds being split. When I contribute money I see it going to PC to be split equally. Now I have to choose between Bill and Kerry, or do I have to split it? That is really nonsense. Project Camelot is Project Camelot.

I will probably be slammed for this, but I think you both need to sit down with a good therapist to work this out and take some time out camping somewhere with a meditator for a week - as to how you can both continue the outstanding work you do - awakening thousands upon thousands of people around the globe.

Surely this is more important in the grand scheme of things. I am not trivialising both your concerns. They are all legitimate.

But you both came together and signed up for this. Please don't blow it.

You are infinitely more powerful together than apart.

Lily de Cuir

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Lily de Cuir

Hi Everyone, and Hi Bill + Kerry,

I am a bit of a lurker here and don't make comments. But I must say I feel very uncomfortable with what is happening with PC. The website being split in two etc.

Clearly there is a massive undercurrent of misunderstanding and/or conflict. While I understand these things happen, it doesn't feel good to me and I don't think things are being through rationally. Especially the bit about funds being split. When I contribute money I see it going to PC to be split equally. Now I have to choose between Bill and Kerry, or do I have to split it? That is really nonsense. Project Camelot is Project Camelot.

I will probably be slammed for this, but I think you both need to sit down with a good therapist to work this out and take some time out camping somewhere with a meditator for a week - as to how you can both continue the outstanding work you do - awakening thousands upon thousands of people around the globe.

Surely this is more important in the grand scheme of things. I am not trivialising both your concerns. They are all legitimate.

But you both came together and signed up for this. Please don't blow it.

You are infinitely more powerful together than apart.

Lily de Cuir

I Totally Think the same . p e a c e

[Jacqui D]

Wow i'm a little late seeing all this going on what's happening here?
Can we please get back to sanity everyone calm down you can feel the vibes it is not nice.
This makes me very sad, if there was one thing you could rely on was logging in on avalon knowing peace /tranquility/ love and friendship but after reading this thread it has shocked me frankly.
Bill and Kerry i do not know you personally have never spoken to you as such but when i joined avalon when it all started i knew i had found a place in which we could share and join together.
It is a shame it has come to this and i agree with some who has mentioned this that yes we have been attacked by negative forces most definitely.
If it is impossible for you Bill and Kerry to get back together then that is sad you were both the backbone of these whistle blowers interviews something that will be missed now not seeing you work together.
real shame if you ask me, just goes to show all the hard work by some on here who try to keep vibrations high that negativity still has a foot in the door.
What will it take to oust this overwhelming control well it seem all the meditation and goodwill could not calm these rough waters let us lay it to rest now, start afresh, begin once more.
I do not wish to take sides bill/kerry i just feel so disheartened by it all.