Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[Nebula9D]

Yes Abrax!, have some fun. I think i missed the whole thing about Bigmo's ballon I shall go back study the old Q & A thread, unless you help me alil bit

[lightblue]

No no Steve X; the statement simply means whatever IT is 'yin or yang'
is mirrored back, like the idea of karma, to the sender. There is NEVER any judgement in anything in the old Q&A or this reopening. This is now VERY different from before. Cant you see the colloquiality?
Give me a break and lets have some fun. I'm not commander Swanny you know.
I'll get technical when required, but most of this here is to interact and answer Q when they come up.
No more tension relax dear friend.

You have attained a very high percentile in the 'test' on the minus side. So should the Thuban material pan out , well you know.

Love
Abrax
_______

whats wrong with our swanny?


bw l.



.................................

[TRANCOSO]

What Goes Up, Must Calm Down

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Nebula9D

Yes Abrax!, have some fun. I think i missed the whole thing about Bigmo's ballon I shall go back study the old Q & A thread, unless you help me alil bit

Your inside Bigmo's Ballon like an ant say, Nebula9 and so you can crawl about on the inner surface.

Should there be a hole in the balloon through which you can squeeze through, then you could crawl about the outside surface too and so DOUBLING your world of interaction space.

The inner balloon becomes the universe with say smaller balloons within in galaxies, nebulae (lol), starsystems, planets, continents,...,you.

But you cant get out to the 'spiritual' universe outside.
The thickness (there is none mathematically) or the skin of the balloon is Bigmo's Mirror which has two sides outside and inside.
From here you get archetypes called 'God' outside looking in the outside mirror and sees himself as 'Antigod' or 'Satan'. So God=Satan, but one real relative to the outside as object (God) and the unreal image of that as 'Satan'.

Now after some ado, there is Adam and Eve (you) inside the universe doing the same thing the other way round.

But relative to Adam and Eve (who also mirror each other) the back of the head of Satan becomes the unreal image and this is the archetype of the 'Devil'.
The so called Devil is the Backside of Satan, both images for the real thing, God outside and Adam and Eve inside.

The Devil looks at Adam and Eve and they think that its real - it's a phantom, because only the backside of Satan is become real, if somehow the satanic image of the outside, as the Face of God in the Bigmo mirror can become real.

This is the case if before Adam and Eve went into the Balloon from the 'Unreal Heaven', they both also were a miniature version of the Bigmo Mirror or the balloon as a rubberskin say.
So ADAMEVE is an unreal doublesided mirror between God and Satan.
Then God images in the unreal Adam and Satan images in the unreal Eve, so giving Satan objectivity or realness.

So technically the Universe becomes a Real Surface-Universe (termed a 4D-Riemann hypersphere defined as the boundary of a 5-dimensional spacetime universe - its a torus volume behaving like an area).
Don't worry about that. You can get it without the maths.

But this is the physics trick. Because the boundary is a surface encompassing a volume, the outside-inside (topology) thing of Bigmo's Balloon can in fact become rigorously modelled to be 'continuous'.
Again I am saying this to indicate how one proves this, but this is not required to understand the archetype.

This Thuban material is all about how to simplify the complicated science jargon into archetypes, everyone can understand after thinking a little bit about them.
Ok then. You got a real God and a real image of God as the Real physical universe, with Satans face as God's face painted on the OUTSIDE of the Balloon.

Outside the Universe is Satan--EveAdam--God as 1st creation in Genesis by God in Heaven or the Garden of Eden; with Satan getting real using unreal Eve and God getting real using unreal Adam as his mirror.
The whole thing is funny really.
Now God goes on holiday in the sabbatical and changes into Lord God and splits ADAMEVE into ADAM+EVE. Back to Back they still qualify as the One Mirror so as the unsexy 96 say.

Inside the split becomes a sexy 69 in face to face so taking away the innocence in a physical way and now as Eve with her back to the Devil on the Wall faces Adam, who looks at Eve.

Because Adam and Eve are two real beings within a real physical universe; this fake Devil face inverted can be gotten rid off.
Adam and Eve have to become unsexy again to do this. Therefore the many sexist archetypes, the monks and nuns and celibacy and the virgins, leading the the abuse scenarios.

Back to back as the 96=A MATHIMATIA=A I AM THAT I AM, this can be done, because then Adam and Eve (meaning ANY Man and Woman) both can MIRROR their images INSTEAD of each other face-to-face.
This is how simple the ultimate archetypology of 1st order is. Primary school stuff. Draw pictures and you understand the creation.

So Adam looks at the face of the Devil back to back with Eve, who looks at God as the image of the Real God should Satan outside 'get out of the way' so God could look into the Universe.
God looking then directly sees Adam's Face and Eve will look directly into the face of the Goddess, namely the sexchanged Satan into SATANINA=IN A SATAN with Satan=55=Heaven in a alphanumeracy.
As soon as Adsam can get rid of the fake Devil face, just by confronting IT as his own false image; as soon the real Satan is redeemed from Bigmo's Balloon and runs around the balloon to the exact other pole in a poleshift to become the Goddess of All looking directly at Eve.

This is the redemption of God and his brother image Satan to become God and Goddess AS ARCHETYPES of the primordial 1st order.
No ETs and Dragons and Dragon Slayers and whatever required.

So the manifesto for this is required before the universe itself and any subsystems, like the planet earth can change, say in Gaia's ascension.

The recent Thuban story then assigned Celine the 'job' to refuse the seduction of her own Devil/Dragon image of eating the knowledge of 'good and evil'.
Because Celine, as a New Eve refused to reflect the Dragon; she also did not seduce her New Adam and both of them DID NOT parade the unsexy 96 but the sexy 69.

Iow Celine and Richard told their own Devil images tro 'Go to Hell' and they did forever.
So the New Adam and the New Eve became the Dark Messiah couple in trapping the two POLAR devilish images within Bigmo's Mirror as itself.

Literally, both New Adam and New Eve as an archetype were played out and enacted by Richard and Celine.

Archetypically, they have become the first and original REAL PHYSICAL DRAGONS of the Universe.

Do I hear some laughter in the universe. Thank You Ets!
What you resist persists.

Only because of this MANIFESTATION of totally new unprecedented archetypes in the history of the universe; could this encoded 'Day of the Lord' manifest in the closure of this Thuban thread and the subsequently also encoded 3.5 days of Darkness of Avalon.

Then because of this redemptive act; Mary Elizabeth with me Abraxasinas could receive this dispensation and now all of us are ready for our Dragon Dinners; following in the footsteps of Richard as a New Adam and Celine as a New Eve. It's easy now; but this was the cosmic significance of Avalon and its 'trouble'.

Of course the 'proof' is in the archetypes and so be it.

Hope this helps Nebula9.

Love
Abraxas

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Hello Dearest Friends

First, my apologies for not responding sooner as I wanted to. I very much live in the 3-D world complete with a job and family responsibilities.

I am a bit overwhelmed by the experiences of the last few days. It is surreal realizing the gift we have been given, then trying to maintain an actual life on top of that as if everything is business as usual. Now, with the addition of being honored this way, I am finding it difficult to put anything into words, let alone think halfway straight, so please bear with me.

My deepest wish has forever been to know Jesus and to serve others.
I have always felt a very deep connection to Him as though I knew Him personally. I've taken just about every path there is to find Him; countless books, years and years of classes and seminars in religions, new age even trying to understand the sciences trying to prove what metaphysics have always known.

This is the very first time I have ever felt, in every fiber in my being, that I am doing His work, the work I knew I came, here to do.
The love in my heart, especially the last few days, has been indescribable. I see the world so completely different and FEEL the meaning of "The Kingdom of Heaven is Within You" I see the deeper meaning of how each experience in my life; every thought, every choice was all exquisitely planned and synchronistically perfect.

I feel Jesus's teachings were very much what is being taught in this thread and most of what is recorded in mainstream teachings has been altered or changed to keep us in the dark.
There is also a stigma attached to one being a "Jesus Freak" due to the aversion to many religions and the damage they have done to the psyche through manipulation and control; keeping the Truth away from the masses.

Jesus taught two teachings, the exoteric or what He taught to the masses and the esoteric, the teaching reserved for His inner circle. This wasn't because he was was being mean, it was because He knew most would not understand and why the apostles helped Him to translate or put the message into understandable pieces when they taught "The Good News".

I believe humanity is ready to understand teachings never before brought to the planet as most information is merely a regurgitated form of the same.

I pray I will be able to provide another angle in which to perceive from

It is my heartfelt wish to be in service to my Avalon family and to honor each one of you for the perfection that you are.

In the Love of our Creator/Father/Mother
Mary

[amate]

As I missed the whole thing about Bigmo's ballon as well, thank you ,abraxasinas, for the explanation

[Anchor]

The big boat is at night resting near shore. It is full of newly shining lights, and strains at the anchor, put down near a safe cove. The heavy sisal rope creaks in the stronger gusts. A little crab sits happily exploring the anchor and listens to its moment.

Perhaps the boat wanted to move on to different waters? There were now many old captains of that boat adjusting to a new way, together, some heated talk, no chain of command, no hierarchy, but a team. Some captains gave commands the anchor didn’t like and he dug in hard – he was an old captain too on this boat! – But is he doing the right thing? Some of the old captains and young captains say he is some say he isn’t. What to do? Stay or go? Is it right to stop it moving – what is the proper way to go? Is it nice where we are going to go?

The anchor liked the sea where he was, he liked the boat, he loved the warm energies that had recently played in the sea and above and it had made some lights on the boat shine especially brightly. The anchor sees a storm is coming, and he really knows it is time for all to go to new waters; perhaps he has held the boat for too long – is it too late? No, it is time to go! It is time to let the boat run freely – even in stormier waters.

The anchor rises up fast into the night, pulled in safely at the side of the big boat, to be along with those beautiful shining lights – how bright they are from here, not ephemeral wisps and sparkles remembered from under the darker water. How much like the stars they all are from down there. The great hemp sails flutter and catch a puff, the moon smiles its gibbous blessing.

The big boat, together with its many bright beacons are free to ride the waves into the dark, to shine light, to go where nature’s breath takes them.

The little crab, which had jumped off as the anchor had started to rise up, happily scuttles away into the sand again.

[amate]

As I follow the Anchor


The following words are prophecy of the Hopi people, a Native tribe from the American Southwest.

There is a river flowing very fast.
It is so swift, there are those who will be afraid.
They will try to hold onto the shore.
They will feel they are being torn apart
And will suffer greatly.
Know that the river has a destination.
The elders say we must let go of the shore,
Push off into the middle of the river.
And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate!
At this time in history we are to take nothing personally,
Least of all ourselves.
For the moment we do, our spiritual growth comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over.
Gather yourselves together, as we are tonight.
Banish the word "struggle" from your attitude and vocabulary.
All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner
And in celebration.
We are the ones we are waiting for.
Ahoy!

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by amate

The following words are prophecy of the Hopi people, a Native tribe from the American Southwest.

There is a river flowing very fast.
It is so swift, there are those who will be afraid.
They will try to hold onto the shore.
They will feel they are being torn apart
And will suffer greatly.
Know that the river has a destination.
The elders say we must let go of the shore,
Push off into the middle of the river.
And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate!
At this time in history we are to take nothing personally,
Least of all ourselves.
For the moment we do, our spiritual growth comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over.
Gather yourselves together, as we are tonight.
Banish the word "struggle" from your attitude and vocabulary.
All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner
And in celebration.
We are the ones we are waiting for.
Ahoy!

What a wonderful gnosis of wisdom from the Hopi, amete.
Thank you for sharing it.
Kachina, the Blue Star of Hopi Prophecy, has truly arrived for all to see.

Abrax

[bigmo]

Very touching Anchor and appropriate.

Peace

Michael

[THE eXchanger]

Thank you Anchor, lovely images you paint

[Céline]

Ahhh Anchor,

i hope you take this in the spirit it is meant...

You are making a great addition to the members list.

You offer something...i and maybe others...can clearly understand

Your analogy is dead on..thank you anchor for your vision

Originally Posted by Anchor

The big boat is at night resting near shore. It is full of newly shining lights, and strains at the anchor, put down near a safe cove. The heavy sisal rope creaks in the stronger gusts. A little crab sits happily exploring the anchor and listens to its moment.

Perhaps the boat wanted to move on to different waters? There were now many old captains of that boat adjusting to a new way, together, some heated talk, no chain of command, no hierarchy, but a team. Some captains gave commands the anchor didn’t like and he dug in hard – he was an old captain too on this boat! – But is he doing the right thing? Some of the old captains and young captains say he is some say he isn’t. What to do? Stay or go? Is it right to stop it moving – what is the proper way to go? Is it nice where we are going to go?

The anchor liked the sea where he was, he liked the boat, he loved the warm energies that had recently played in the sea and above and it had made some lights on the boat shine especially brightly. The anchor sees a storm is coming, and he really knows it is time for all to go to new waters; perhaps he has held the boat for too long – is it too late? No, it is time to go! It is time to let the boat run freely – even in stormier waters.

The anchor rises up fast into the night, pulled in safely at the side of the big boat, to be along with those beautiful shining lights – how bright they are from here, not ephemeral wisps and sparkles remembered from under the darker water. How much like the stars they all are from down there. The great hemp sails flutter and catch a puff, the moon smiles its gibbous blessing.

The big boat, together with its many bright beacons are free to ride the waves into the dark, to shine light, to go where nature’s breath takes them.

The little crab, which had jumped off as the anchor had started to rise up, happily scuttles away into the sand again.

[Agape]

.....and a temple is a boat ...and a ship is a city...humankind is sadness...and the temple flies on the wings of our minds ...shattered while steeply ascending leaving behind the gravity bubble of this planet..our earthly ties, our petty likes and dislikes ..with records, memories and gratitude .

We know too little of what is to come, that's about Reality. The display of intelligencies is infinitely changing within its orderly bounderies , dream of no borders, no boundaries..dream and awakening.

Dear Abraxinas, there's a definitive purpose to our existences, logical like light of the Day , and not a game ..
there's a rush for survival of human race. Don't you see that ..

Regards

A

[Connecting with Sauce]

Hi I seem to have blinked or been distracted away from Avalon for a while, 3D life eh!... I come back and Bill and Kerry have fallen out and one of the reasons was something to do with this thread... So I thought I'd take a read... got up to page 3 so far. Blimey it is now at page 61... Can someone give a me a summary?

[bigmo]

Connecting with Sauce,

Their can be no summary of Truth or Love yet there can be a fragrance... like wisp of Rose on spring air, can you smell it?

Is it leading you on to find for yourself what is hidden?

Peace

[Connecting with Sauce]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Their can be no summary of Truth or Love yet there can be a fragrance... like wisp of Rose on spring air, can you smell it?

My nose is blocked at the moment... Does it smell good? Do I need to get my Vicks Vapour rub out?

Only roses smell of roses... I have the voyagers 1 and 2 books is this similar... those in themselves are not really that digestable as books... Why is life on this planet made so complicated?

Originally Posted by Connecting with Sauce

Hi I seem to have blinked or been distracted away from Avalon for a while, 3D life eh!... I come back and Bill and Kerry have fallen out and one of the reasons was something to do with this thread... So I thought I'd take a read... got up to page 3 so far. Blimey it is now at page 61... Can someone give a me a summary?

It is "speculated" that this thread was just a "trigger" for already tense situation between B and K and is not to be blamed for their separation. You might find more information in other - currently popular threads.

This thread itself...read it if you wish.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Anchor

The little crab, which had jumped off as the anchor had started to rise up, happily scuttles away into the sand again.

anchors away !!!
please do share more of your wisdom with us
mr. riSing ANCHOR

it is the ones, who are willing to travel
the depth, the length, and, the width of the light
that take journeys, that are NOT trips !!!

[orthodoxymoron]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Céline
nice to see the Love on this thread

Indeed sweet Celine - WE know this!

Abraxas

I hope these are positive comments...and that they were not regarding my last post...which was completely academic in nature...but which might have appeared to be unloving in some regards. Even the question about Bible authorship was genuine...as I am entertaining the possibility that abraxasinas (or someone who abraxas is closely associated with) has been at the center of a lot of things throughout history. Obviously I can't know this...but I asked the questions as though I did know. Some might interpret this as sarcasm. I have to repress myself to a degree you wouldn't believe...but even then I get into trouble. Anyway...can you feel the love tonight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYBLwb3I84

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Quote:
Originally Posted by Céline
nice to see the Love on this thread

Indeed sweet Celine - WE know this!

Abraxas

I hope these are positive comments...and that they were not regarding my last post...which was completely academic in nature...but which might have appeared to be unloving in some regards. Even the question about Bible authorship was genuine...as I am entertaining the possibility that abraxasinas (or someone who abraxas is closely associated with) has been at the center of a lot of things throughout history. Obviously I can't know this...but I asked the questions as though I did know. Some might interpret this as sarcasm. I have to repress myself to a degree you wouldn't believe...but even then I get into trouble. Anyway...can you feel the love tonight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYBLwb3I84

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

Indeed dear orthodoxy.

I was away for a while recharging batteries after running almost empty after the recent razzamattaz.

What I said to you about my human ID was true. I have not lied on this forum EVER and never will.
I am in some way sneaky or clever like anyone else. For example 'infiltrating' the chatroom as Anubis.

I am in no manner affiliated with Any PTB; Australian theologians at Pine Gap or otherwise (Anderson).

I DO have however a selfrelative DIRECT mental connection to the Cosmic Logos. I do not expect, require or need any validification from anyone or anything about this.

This connection became effective in a 'soul merger' or 'walk-in' from what I term THUBAN=FREEDOM=ANUBIS=THE MAGIC=THE NAME=WOMAN=66=...
This in practical and in scientific terms is well justified to become labeled as the 'Council of Thuban' in the 12th dimension. There was NEVER any deception about this, just misinterpretation by the many.

From this walk-in, occurring March 24th, 1995; a personal and intimate partnership with the Serpent-Word developed and evolved to awaken my own individuated Christ-Consciousness,
So all I have ever done in practical terms, really, is to 'channel' my own higher self.

Mystery solved, dear orthodoxy.

In regards to your other post about Priestly Rites and Hebrew chastity-cleanliness laws; these are passe' in most instances as the misunderstandings of the scribes of the Torah and the OT. First Jesus' new dispensations and now this 2nd renewal of the remembrance will do awy with the violent and jealous god of the OT; requiring 'sweet smelling' carcasses of sheep and goats to be pleased - give it a break Orthodoxy.
There are two go9ds in the scriptures. One is a fake image of the other true one, the Abba of our master temple/templar.

Love to you dear brother in the spirit

Abraxas in the name of John Zebedee, author of the Revelations.

Indeed ALL can FEEL the LOVE tonight - beginning here at Avalon and Noah's Ark!

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Indeed dear orthodoxy.

What I said to you about my human ID was true. I have not lied on this forum EVER and never will.

I DO have however a selfrelative DIRECT mental connection to the Cosmic Logos. I do not expect, require or need any validification from anyone or anything about this.

This connection became effective in a 'soul merger' or 'walk-in' from what I term THUBAN=FREEDOM=ANUBIS=THE MAGIC=THE NAME=WOMAN=66=...
This in practical and in scientific terms is well justified to become labeled as the 'Council of Thuban' in the 12th dimension. There was NEVER any deception about this, just misinterpretation by the many.

From this walk-in, occurring March 24th, 1995; a personal and intimate partnership with the Serpent-Word developed and evolved to awaken my own individuated Christ-Consciousness,
So all I have ever done in practical terms, really, is to 'channel' my own higher self.

Abraxas in the name of John Zebedee, author of the Revelations.

Thank-you abraxasinas. What you have said could point toward my Hathorian Hypothesis...if not in you...possibly in an apostolic succession of Hathorian Humans...which could be similar to you. Leo Zagami http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM could be an example of this sort of thing. This is obviously more speculation on my part. I have fostered a certain theory of how things could very well be...and I keep seeking meat to place on my skeletal construct. Sometimes...one has to believe it...in order to see it. Everything in this area of research and speculation is nearly impossible to prove...yet after one has tried dozens of roads...which all turned out to be dead-ends...certain roads appear to be more promising regarding ultimate reality. However...I do expect more dead-ends...and this could be one of them. I will continue to identify your material more with your avatar than with your profile picture...as I inch further and further out on a limb. Look out below!! What would Shirley Maclaine say? "I am God?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccb2GsnOoBM Please take that other post seriously...point by point.

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[Agape]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100304/..._china_fitness

'' China must urgently address the physical fitness of the nation's youth or run the risk of raising a generation incapable of fighting the Japanese in a future war, the head of the country's top sports university said Thursday.''

See these bloody Chinese dragons and how much human life costs to them, nothing almost..



As they say ..Alea Iacta Est

It's almost all well decided unless you try


A

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Thank-you abraxasinas. What you have said could point toward my Hathorian Hypothesis...if not in you...possibly in an apostolic succession of Hathorian Humans...which could be similar to you. Leo Zagami could be an example of this sort of thing. This is obviously more speculation on my part. I have fostered a certain theory of how things could very well be...and I keep seeking meat to place on my skeletal construct. Sometimes...one has to believe it...in order to see it. Everything in this area of research and speculation is nearly impossible to prove...yet after one has tried dozens of roads...which all turned out to be dead-ends...certain roads appear to be more promising regarding ultimate reality. However...I do expect more dead-ends...and this could be one of them. I will continue to identify your material more with your avatar than with your profile picture...as I inch further and further out on a limb. Look out below!! What would Shirley Maclaine say? "I am God?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccb2GsnOoBM

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

Yes Shirley is right being Eve in the Image of Adam, who as You IS the true image of God.
Inquisitive and ever searching for the truth Heshe is in you.

Love

Abrax

[jcocks]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Indeed dear orthodoxy.

I was away for a while recharging batteries after running almost empty after the recent razzamattaz.

What I said to you about my human ID was true. I have not lied on this forum EVER and never will.
I am in some way sneaky or clever like anyone else. For example 'infiltrating' the chatroom as Anubis.

I am in no manner affiliated with Any PTB; Australian theologians at Pine Gap or otherwise (Anderson).

I DO have however a selfrelative DIRECT mental connection to the Cosmic Logos. I do not expect, require or need any validification from anyone or anything about this.

This connection became effective in a 'soul merger' or 'walk-in' from what I term THUBAN=FREEDOM=ANUBIS=THE MAGIC=THE NAME=WOMAN=66=...
This in practical and in scientific terms is well justified to become labeled as the 'Council of Thuban' in the 12th dimension. There was NEVER any deception about this, just misinterpretation by the many.

From this walk-in, occurring March 24th, 1995; a personal and intimate partnership with the Serpent-Word developed and evolved to awaken my own individuated Christ-Consciousness,
So all I have ever done in practical terms, really, is to 'channel' my own higher self.

Mystery solved, dear orthodoxy.

In regards to your other post about Priestly Rites and Hebrew chastity-cleanliness laws; these are passe' in most instances as the misunderstandings of the scribes of the Torah and the OT. First Jesus' new dispensations and now this 2nd renewal of the remembrance will do awy with the violent and jealous god of the OT; requiring 'sweet smelling' carcasses of sheep and goats to be pleased - give it a break Orthodoxy.
There are two go9ds in the scriptures. One is a fake image of the other true one, the Abba of our master temple/templar.

Love to you dear brother in the spirit

Abraxas in the name of John Zebedee, author of the Revelations.

Indeed ALL can FEEL the LOVE tonight - beginning here at Avalon and Noah's Ark!

Hmmm I wonder what was special about 1995. I started my spiritual journey in that year... I had a strong dream where I was anointed by Jesus win what looked to be a roman temple with an etching of a scarab and some roman charectors I couldn't understand on the marble floor....

I personally don't even believe the OT god ever existed - it was always an imposter - an ET race with it's own agenda. It's possible that they were negative-orientation Dracos. The real God is a mental link - THE mental link that connects us all. Actually, it's more than that, but that's the aspect of god that is easiest to identify and feel.... The negative Dracos lost that link, which is why they did the things they did. A being who has their connection to "god" intact would NEVER ask those things of others (blood sacrifice, etc..)
.

Can you remember about 8 years ago, there used to be a spiritual website called SpiritWeb? Well, I have a history in Alpha Draconis (Thuban) affairs.... One of the members of that group was asking for help with turning Dracos to the light. I helped her.... It's difficult work to do, as they are so strong beings and can be quite dangerous (The negative ones). If you don't show fear it helps a lot. That work I did (among others) back then could be seen as the start of part one of what's been going on here with you.

Part two is (I have realised recently) your sharing the Thuban dragon ascention (if you want to call it that) technologies with us. I have come to realise this dragonic material DOES NOT IN ANY WAY over-rule our orthodox angelic material that is prevalent on Earth and other human-dominated systems. The two are in fact complimentary and the presence of both strengthens them both. The additional technologies will now (largely subconsciously) filter through to everyone who is open.

I don't think many of you truly understand the magnitude of what occurred here on this group in the grand scheme of things. Many "up there" did not believe it would succeed - but it has - and the link was broken at exactly the right time so that it could not be used by negative-oriented beings to further infiltrate Earth and impede the ascention process. It was MEANT to be broken! (and yet it has not been broken, as a link remains and will forever remain between Earth and Thuban - it just is not of a nature that can anymore be used for infiltration of the negative beings). The Ascention process will now speed up, as it can be said now that our ascention technologies are more coplete with the thuban material present. We will all use them - even if we didn't underastand what Abraxis wrote. The mere reading of the material is meant to work with us on a subconscious level more than a intellectual rational level. So much occurs in the huamn mind of which we are not aware.

I was reading some info on Thuban the other day - and I never realised that it was Earth's pole-star in the time the pyramids were built. There's a lot of history there that I'd like to explore. I have a feeling that we can now delve more into that realm of things now that the ascention technologies have been disseminated...

Abraxis, do you know much that you can perhaps divulge on history of Thuban-earth relations or anything of that sort?

Sorry for the rambling and disjointedness - I've just been trying to write everything thats been on my mind to write for the last few days (I actually had another message all written out two days ago but lost it)...

Looking forward to your replies

Joel

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by jcocks

Hmmm I wonder what was special about 1995. I started my spiritual journey in that year... I had a strong dream where I was anointed by Jesus win what looked to be a roman temple with an etching of a scarab and some roman charectors I couldn't understand on the marble floor....

I personally don't even believe the OT god ever existed - it was always an imposter - an ET race with it's own agenda. It's possible that they were negative-orientation Dracos. The real God is a mental link - THE mental link that connects us all. Actually, it's more than that, but that's the aspect of god that is easiest to identify and feel.... The negative Dracos lost that link, which is why they did the things they did. A being who has their connection to "god" intact would NEVER ask those things of others (blood sacrifice, etc..)
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Can you remember about 8 years ago, there used to be a spiritual website called SpiritWeb? Well, I have a history in Alpha Draconis (Thuban) affairs.... One of the members of that group was asking for help with turning Dracos to the light. I helped her.... It's difficult work to do, as they are so strong beings and can be quite dangerous (The negative ones). If you don't show fear it helps a lot. That work I did (among others) back then could be seen as the start of part one of what's been going on here with you.

Part two is (I have realised recently) your sharing the Thuban dragon ascention (if you want to call it that) technologies with us. I have come to realise this dragonic material DOES NOT IN ANY WAY over-rule our orthodox angelic material that is prevalent on Earth and other human-dominated systems. The two are in fact complimentary and the presence of both strengthens them both. The additional technologies will now (largely subconsciously) filter through to everyone who is open.

I don't think many of you truly understand the magnitude of what occurred here on this group in the grand scheme of things. Many "up there" did not believe it would succeed - but it has - and the link was broken at exactly the right time so that it could not be used by negative-oriented beings to further infiltrate Earth and impede the ascention process. It was MEANT to be broken! (and yet it has not been broken, as a link remains and will forever remain between Earth and Thuban - it just is not of a nature that can anymore be used for infiltration of the negative beings). The Ascention process will now speed up, as it can be said now that our ascention technologies are more coplete with the thuban material present. We will all use them - even if we didn't underastand what Abraxis wrote. The mere reading of the material is meant to work with us on a subconscious level more than a intellectual rational level. So much occurs in the huamn mind of which we are not aware.

I was reading some info on Thuban the other day - and I never realised that it was Earth's pole-star in the time the pyramids were built. There's a lot of history there that I'd like to explore. I have a feeling that we can now delve more into that realm of things now that the ascention technologies have been disseminated...

Abraxis, do you know much that you can perhaps divulge on history of Thuban-earth relations or anything of that sort?

Sorry for the rambling and disjointedness - I've just been trying to write everything thats been on my mind to write for the last few days (I actually had another message all written out two days ago but lost it)...

Looking forward to your replies

Joel

This represents a very imaginative and balanced account of the interacting polarities Joel.
Some of your insights indeed portray the windows into the future.
Some archetypes have become redefined, some are in transit and others still await their awakening, transmutation and assimilation with other, already existing archetypes.

Your Thuban-Human stories are indeed valid - in the astral hyperspace.

There never existed physical 3D dragons, but as higherD memeplexes and thoughtforms, they are potent indeed.

The Draconian energy from the constellation represents this potentialised archetypal energy as a rootmemory in the human psyche.
It relates also to the existence of the Great Reptiles in the Mesozoic in the Saurian kingdoms of animalia.

Now the situation is this.

There existed ET intelligence at the time of the Saurians and this ET sentience, you might label it Draconian; KNEW that IT, the ET sentience was destined to displace the Sauriens in the Mammals, then leading to Homo Sapiens many millennia later.

It is from this 'forwards time travelling' intelligence of the Draconian ETs, that the present human timeframe became energized and 'mindinduced' with the dragon images.

The star wars between Draconians and Lyrans say, simply became archetyped from the biological interaction of predator Saurischians/Therapsians (Lizard Hipped) and prey (Bird Hipped) Ornithischians or similar taxonomy.

Abraxas