Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by K626

Has 'Ra' really got time to post on here?

You are Ra-Hamarkhis also K626 and YOU are posting here, do you not?

AA

[K626]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

You are Ra-Hamarkhis also K626 and YOU are posting here, do you not?

AA

Tell me a little more about the proto-universe.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by K626

Tell me a little more about the proto-universe.

Do you read any of the posts K626; I have addressed the multiverse a number of times in replies to other questions?

So I shall repeat for you but add a 'channeling' from the Little Serpent of the Mayan Popul Vuh in further elucidation of this question.

The Protoverse is in the shape of a rugby ball (in the UK) or a football (in the USA and Australia) say; i.e EGGSHAPED.
Technically, this is termed a Prolate Ellipsoid (or Spheroid) characterised by two cross sectional planes.

Cutting the egg longwise will give you an ellipse and cutting the egg shortwise will give you a circle.

So ROTATING the egg longwise (major axis) will not change the geometrical focus points defining the elliptical plane (reference a 101 textbook on Analytical Geometry).

But ROTATING the egg shortwise (either of the minor axes) will force the two focal points to meet in a PointCircle as a Locus tracing the rotations.

The Protoverse is then defined in the focal invariance of the long-axis rotation - iow this protoverse is in STASIS, i.e. FROZEN in a possible FAMILY of spacetimes.

The Protoverse is then that which you read about as THE UNIVERSE in popular and academic media.
Because this Protoverse is multidimensional, the 3D space or the 4D spacetime universe becomes a SEED for its own expansion.
The merkabah for this Holographic Universe is like a 'Russian Doll' with a static kernel or core however being the merkabah of the asymptotic LIMIT for the SEED expansion as a 10D cosmology.

The inner merkabah of the Protoverse is YOUR own merkabah as a Holofractal Hologram of the encompassing merkabah.
This the meaning of Vitruvius and 'Cosmic Man' and Purusha and so on; being encompassed by a Fibonacci definable circle of the 'Sacred Geometry'.

Then the only way to end the stasis of the Protoverse is to INDUCE a phaseshift in it by rotation about a minor axis.

As there are a potentially infite number of angular diplacements for this rotation, an infinite number, beginning however with just 1 arbitrary one, can define the Multiverse as collections of such phaseshifted protoverses.

So as example, consider yourself as evolved enough in selfawareness and in spacial consciousness to INDUCE a phaseshift in the Protoverse you presently inhabit as a 'nested' Individuated merkabah labeled K626.

Then you will become a partnership between the static protoverse merkabah of your encompassment and yourself as a phaseshifted merkabah K626.

This partnership of 2 is sufficient to define a Multiverse.
Should this occur and no other consciousness carrier within the protoverse succeeds to achieve phasal induction status; then there will still exist a Multiverse, comprised of two: the Protoverse of Stasis + Universe K626.

Then say consciousness unit Celine also achieves ascension status to phasally induct the Protoverse of the Cosmic Logos.

Then there will be two individuated universes named Universe K626 + Universe Celine both in partnership to the Protoverse of the Cosmic Logos.

This Multiverse differs from the 2-member universal partnership in the fact that the tripartite partnership forms a multiverse of higher order, then two dyadic partnerships between individuated Universe K626+Protoverse and individuated Universe Celine+Protoverse.

So the Multiverse in generality allows all permutations of Individuated Universe collectives, families, groups and partnerships - all however based on the Protoverse of the Logos.
No Protoverse coupling, no Multiverse is the Law in other words.

So then rotating the (symmetric) Cosmic EGG about a minor axis will generate the Multiverse and all together assume the UFO shape of an OBLATE SPHEROID.

Imagine to swirl an egg on your kitchen table and draw the envelope for the positions of the egg in that circle.

This overall UFO shape is technically called the OMNIVERSE as the envelope for all the Multiverses in 10-11-12D Omispacetime, also known throughout the higher dimensional intelligences as the Dragon Universe.

AA

In Lake'ch - I am another yourself!



May the Inner Peace of Mind be with you in these times of the present, which shall soon blend your pasts with your futures.

A great controversy in theoretical paradigm building is the notion of how a single universe containing many consciousness carriers can relate to the statistical distribution of those 'cosmic inhabitants'.

With the birth of quantum theory in the early decades of the 20th century came the realisation, that the observer of physical phenomena is not absolutely independent from the system observed.
Bohr, Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Dirac, Born, Planck and Einstein, to mention but a few of the 'midwives' of quantum mechanics; constructed the mathematical formalisms to describe an interactive reality on the microscopic or quantum level of measurement and soon realised, that the quantum realm of the very small did not behave in the classical sense of the Greek-Newtonian physics on which the basis of scientific-physical reality stood.

As the worlds of the very large, the scale of the universe as a macrocosm of galaxies behaving like cells in a biological body; had also become illuminated by the pioneering cosmologists like Einstein, Hubble and Sandage; a synthesis of the macroworlds with the microworlds became a new aim of research for all scientific thinkers, philosophers and experimenters concerned.

Until Edwin Hubble discovered the expansion of the universe as a selfcontained entity; all light sources in the sky were assumed to be stars or 'island universes' or 'nebulae' within a single universe - now rendered dynamically expanding and no longer static in its hitherto presumed infinity-stasis of the Newtonian worldview.

For the remainder of the 20th century then, natural philosophers of divers kinds attempted to blend the quantum nature of the macroscales with those of the microscales.
Many difficulties surfaced, such as the incompatibility of the quantum formalisms, built on the metrics of subatomic and atomic displacements; with the metrics of the larger scales and as experimentally predicted and verified by the theories of Newton and Einstein.

Eventually, and to accomodate the superposition of quantum selfstates derived from the quantum mechanics; a Many Worlds Cosmos was proposed by exponents such as Hugh Everett and David Deutsch.
This is known as Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics and is proposed to build on and to be complementary for older quantum interpretations, such as the Copenhagen Interpretation, the Afshar Complementarity or the Cramer Transactional Interpretation.

The MWI utilises the established quantum formalism of quantum field theory (QFT), which has been verified in countless experiments as a valid model to describe the statistical-probabilistic nature of the 'particle' distributions in the universe and its subsystems as 'stochastic' eigenvalues for 'standing waves' or 'Bohmian-pilotwaves' describing the density distribution of the 'particles'.

But the MWI then proposes a Many Universe distribution on the macro-classical scale of the universe itself to account for a distribution of the superimposed selfstates in a linear-classical geometry.
A particular distribution of eigenstates, say as 'materialisations' of the Schroedinger equation, are so not confined in one universe as either-or materialisations, but are split into a number of universes identical to the number of quantum eigenvalues derived from the equation as and-solutions.

As the distribution of those solutions is summed to accomodate the original 'set of solutions' obtained in the one quantum universe; the linearity of Parallel Universes as superposed macroquantum universal eigenstates can be alternatively accomodated in the model of the Many Mind Interpretation or MMI. The MMI became formally introduced into the scientific database by Dieter Zeh in 1995 and expanded upon by Loewer and Albert.

In the MWI, the universe occupies a single and fundamentally indeterminate quantum eigenstate with a noncollapsing wavefunction; but an evolution of this 'groundstate' or wavefunction into higher and higher complexity in the splitting of macrouniverses and a say 'original infinite mind' into many minds.
Any act of measurement or observation so 'splits' an 'older parental' mind into its offspring in Decoherence, alternatively described as wavefunction collapse in the 'competing' models for the quantum reality.

The MMI replaces the linear parallelism of singularised macrouniverses with an angular parallelism of multiconnectedness of the one macrouniverse.
Here the proposition of the MWI with its split of two observers in say two different macrouniverses and so with two now different minds is replaced by a split of the two observers into two psychophysical universes.
In other words, the one physical observer within the one macro-universe splits into two forms from its physical parent with a shadow psychophysical 'double' mirroring the former.

There are many problems with both the MWI and the MMI, both as defined presently in their embryonic states of development; not at least the Definition of the Selection of the Singular SelfState as the Seed for the subsequent 'splitting'.
But the MMI is more appropriate to the development of the encompassing formalism, than the MWI and more shall be shared at the appropriate time.

What the MMI does, is point to a necessary Duality between the physical and the metaphysical or the physical and the mental or the body and the mind - and also its necessary coupling in the 'negation' of this Descartian Duality.
Both, the MWI and the MMI utilize the orthodox interpretation of quantum mechanics, say the formalisms of Schroedinger, Dirac and Klein-Gordon.
Both so also 'copy' the inherent 'flaw' in those formalisms, to do with the nonlocality and the indeterminant qualities embodied in the quantum-field-approach.

I direct the reader to familiarise with the concept of the Quantum Mind and especially the pioneering works of Evans Harris Walker; Roger Penrose, Stuart Hameroff, Max Tegmark (opposing Penrose and Hameroff); David Chalmers, Henry Stapp and most of all David Bohm, Karl Pribram and Fritjof Capra.

Please find below a brief (wikipedia) outline of the MWI and the MMI.

IAmWhoIAm - A Quantum Computer

[Céline]

[rosie]

Such a very intense person abraxasinas. I may not agree with your philosophy , but I do admire your dedication to your truths.

To stand up for something you believe in, and to fight for it, is what this life on earth is all about.

I wish peace for you, and joy in this human experience, as we are very blessed to be experiencing all the good, the bad, and the ugly on the earth plane.

As we are all spiritual beings having a human experience on this beautiful planet, and each individual experience is as important as another, I say thank you for showing your strength in your own personal truths, your unwavering believes show you have truly found yourself.

love & light

[K626]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Do you read any of the posts K626; I have addressed the multiverse a number of times in replies to other questions?

So I shall repeat for you but add a 'channeling' from the Little Serpent of the Mayan Popul Vuh in further elucidation of this question.

The Protoverse is in the shape of a rugby ball (in the UK) or a football (in the USA and Australia) say; i.e EGGSHAPED.
Technically, this is termed a Prolate Ellipsoid (or Spheroid) characterised by two cross sectional planes.

Cutting the egg longwise will give you an ellipse and cutting the egg shortwise will give you a circle.

So ROTATING the egg longwise (major axis) will not change the geometrical focus points defining the elliptical plane (reference a 101 textbook on Analytical Geometry).

But ROTATING the egg shortwise (either of the minor axes) will force the two focal points to meet in a PointCircle as a Locus tracing the rotations.

The Protoverse is then defined in the focal invariance of the long-axis rotation - iow this protoverse is in STASIS, i.e. FROZEN in a possible FAMILY of spacetimes.

The Protoverse is then that which you read about as THE UNIVERSE in popular and academic media.
Because this Protoverse is multidimensional, the 3D space or the 4D spacetime universe becomes a SEED for its own expansion.
The merkabah for this Holographic Universe is like a 'Russian Doll' with a static kernel or core however being the merkabah of the asymptotic LIMIT for the SEED expansion as a 10D cosmology.

The inner merkabah of the Protoverse is YOUR own merkabah as a Holofractal Hologram of the encompassing merkabah.
This the meaning of Vitruvius and 'Cosmic Man' and Purusha and so on; being encompassed by a Fibonacci definable circle of the 'Sacred Geometry'.

Then the only way to end the stasis of the Protoverse is to INDUCE a phaseshift in it by rotation about a minor axis.

As there are a potentially infite number of angular diplacements for this rotation, an infinite number, beginning however with just 1 arbitrary one, can define the Multiverse as collections of such phaseshifted protoverses.

So as example, consider yourself as evolved enough in selfawareness and in spacial consciousness to INDUCE a phaseshift in the Protoverse you presently inhabit as a 'nested' Individuated merkabah labeled K626.

Then you will become a partnership between the static protoverse merkabah of your encompassment and yourself as a phaseshifted merkabah K626.

This partnership of 2 is sufficient to define a Multiverse.
Should this occur and no other consciousness carrier within the protoverse succeeds to achieve phasal induction status; then there will still exist a Multiverse, comprised of two: the Protoverse of Stasis + Universe K626.

Then say consciousness unit Celine also achieves ascension status to phasally induct the Protoverse of the Cosmic Logos.

Then there will be two individuated universes named Universe K626 + Universe Celine both in partnership to the Protoverse of the Cosmic Logos.

This Multiverse differs from the 2-member universal partnership in the fact that the tripartite partnership forms a multiverse of higher order, then two dyadic partnerships between individuated Universe K626+Protoverse and individuated Universe Celine+Protoverse.

So the Multiverse in generality allows all permutations of Individuated Universe collectives, families, groups and partnerships - all however based on the Protoverse of the Logos.
No Protoverse coupling, no Multiverse is the Law in other words.

So then rotating the (symmetric) Cosmic EGG about a minor axis will generate the Multiverse and all together assume the UFO shape of an OBLATE SPHEROID.

Imagine to swirl an egg on your kitchen table and draw the envelope for the positions of the egg in that circle.

This overall UFO shape is technically called the OMNIVERSE as the envelope for all the Multiverses in 10-11-12D Omispacetime, also known throughout the higher dimensional intelligences as the Dragon Universe.

AA

In Lake'ch - I am another yourself!



May the Inner Peace of Mind be with you in these times of the present, which shall soon blend your pasts with your futures.

A great controversy in theoretical paradigm building is the notion of how a single universe containing many consciousness carriers can relate to the statistical distribution of those 'cosmic inhabitants'.

With the birth of quantum theory in the early decades of the 20th century came the realisation, that the observer of physical phenomena is not absolutely independent from the system observed.
Bohr, Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Dirac, Born, Planck and Einstein, to mention but a few of the 'midwives' of quantum mechanics; constructed the mathematical formalisms to describe an interactive reality on the microscopic or quantum level of measurement and soon realised, that the quantum realm of the very small did not behave in the classical sense of the Greek-Newtonian physics on which the basis of scientific-physical reality stood.

As the worlds of the very large, the scale of the universe as a macrocosm of galaxies behaving like cells in a biological body; had also become illuminated by the pioneering cosmologists like Einstein, Hubble and Sandage; a synthesis of the macroworlds with the microworlds became a new aim of research for all scientific thinkers, philosophers and experimenters concerned.

Until Edwin Hubble discovered the expansion of the universe as a selfcontained entity; all light sources in the sky were assumed to be stars or 'island universes' or 'nebulae' within a single universe - now rendered dynamically expanding and no longer static in its hitherto presumed infinity-stasis of the Newtonian worldview.

For the remainder of the 20th century then, natural philosophers of divers kinds attempted to blend the quantum nature of the macroscales with those of the microscales.
Many difficulties surfaced, such as the incompatibility of the quantum formalisms, built on the metrics of subatomic and atomic displacements; with the metrics of the larger scales and as experimentally predicted and verified by the theories of Newton and Einstein.

Eventually, and to accomodate the superposition of quantum selfstates derived from the quantum mechanics; a Many Worlds Cosmos was proposed by exponents such as Hugh Everett and David Deutsch.
This is known as Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics and is proposed to build on and to be complementary for older quantum interpretations, such as the Copenhagen Interpretation, the Afshar Complementarity or the Cramer Transactional Interpretation.

The MWI utilises the established quantum formalism of quantum field theory (QFT), which has been verified in countless experiments as a valid model to describe the statistical-probabilistic nature of the 'particle' distributions in the universe and its subsystems as 'stochastic' eigenvalues for 'standing waves' or 'Bohmian-pilotwaves' describing the density distribution of the 'particles'.

But the MWI then proposes a Many Universe distribution on the macro-classical scale of the universe itself to account for a distribution of the superimposed selfstates in a linear-classical geometry.
A particular distribution of eigenstates, say as 'materialisations' of the Schroedinger equation, are so not confined in one universe as either-or materialisations, but are split into a number of universes identical to the number of quantum eigenvalues derived from the equation as and-solutions.

As the distribution of those solutions is summed to accomodate the original 'set of solutions' obtained in the one quantum universe; the linearity of Parallel Universes as superposed macroquantum universal eigenstates can be alternatively accomodated in the model of the Many Mind Interpretation or MMI. The MMI became formally introduced into the scientific database by Dieter Zeh in 1995 and expanded upon by Loewer and Albert.

In the MWI, the universe occupies a single and fundamentally indeterminate quantum eigenstate with a noncollapsing wavefunction; but an evolution of this 'groundstate' or wavefunction into higher and higher complexity in the splitting of macrouniverses and a say 'original infinite mind' into many minds.
Any act of measurement or observation so 'splits' an 'older parental' mind into its offspring in Decoherence, alternatively described as wavefunction collapse in the 'competing' models for the quantum reality.

The MMI replaces the linear parallelism of singularised macrouniverses with an angular parallelism of multiconnectedness of the one macrouniverse.
Here the proposition of the MWI with its split of two observers in say two different macrouniverses and so with two now different minds is replaced by a split of the two observers into two psychophysical universes.
In other words, the one physical observer within the one macro-universe splits into two forms from its physical parent with a shadow psychophysical 'double' mirroring the former.

There are many problems with both the MWI and the MMI, both as defined presently in their embryonic states of development; not at least the Definition of the Selection of the Singular SelfState as the Seed for the subsequent 'splitting'.
But the MMI is more appropriate to the development of the encompassing formalism, than the MWI and more shall be shared at the appropriate time.

What the MMI does, is point to a necessary Duality between the physical and the metaphysical or the physical and the mental or the body and the mind - and also its necessary coupling in the 'negation' of this Descartian Duality.
Both, the MWI and the MMI utilize the orthodox interpretation of quantum mechanics, say the formalisms of Schroedinger, Dirac and Klein-Gordon.
Both so also 'copy' the inherent 'flaw' in those formalisms, to do with the nonlocality and the indeterminant qualities embodied in the quantum-field-approach.

I direct the reader to familiarise with the concept of the Quantum Mind and especially the pioneering works of Evans Harris Walker; Roger Penrose, Stuart Hameroff, Max Tegmark (opposing Penrose and Hameroff); David Chalmers, Henry Stapp and most of all David Bohm, Karl Pribram and Fritjof Capra.

Please find below a brief (wikipedia) outline of the MWI and the MMI.

IAmWhoIAm - A Quantum Computer

Many thanks for the detailed reply. I shall return to it later.

AASB.

[bigmo]

Unbelievable Abraxas... simply unbelievable!

Peace to you brother

Bigmo

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Unbelievable Abraxas... simply unbelievable!

Peace to you brother

Bigmo

That's the Point precisely Bigmo. What is REAL and what is UNREAL.

I accept your brotherhood, you know.
And you know what it means to be my brother in open willingness, don't you?

Free Will - but you can handle that!

I love You!

Sirebard Beardris

[Malletzky]

This post is dedicated to all of you beloved members of this forum..and I only ask you to read further and try to understand the message of this humble soul...please. It is a long post, but you know me...I sometimes tend to express my feelings this way. I speak from my heart, so don't condemn me please.

I decided, for now, to put the muzzle that I put on my mouth few days ago away...as I feel obligated to do this. I will explain further why...

It's hard to begin, but Abrax, allow me to begin here with your post #1422: where you wrote the following sentence:

We shall see dear brother. I fully understand now why you did leave this forum; when I your beloved brother was attacked - but you knew how important it was to ease the burden for all of humanity.

You know, the moment I decided I should go into an 'observer' modus, I didn't exactly knew why. Was it ok to leave this ‘fight’, as it seemed right then that it became really interesting . But, I just felt the guidance to do so, and I allways, allways trust my guidance. So I 'left' for a while...without knowing that I will experience the most profound and simultaniously, the greatest days of my earth life.

I 'observed' and absorbed the energies here on this thread, but also on all other threads as well...I absorbed your energies, and had to face them. What a hard task it was...and it is...but I do not complain.

I asked my 'guides' to explain to me why...why should I do this to me, why me.

Why should I feel like I feel, why should I cry like I've barely cried before in my life? Why? So many tears these day...for what?

As I awoke this morning, I had a strange feeling...something was brewing...I actually received an answer, but I couldn’t accept an answer like this. I...I do not held myself for being ‘humble or noble’ to even think something like that. There was the answer...and I had to swallow hard...was I really destined to absorbe all of your energies here and hold them in ballance for so long, until this issue here get ‘solved’? Was I destined to ease the burden....?

Really and honestly, I dismissed these thoughts. So I went back to the material and I asked you a question, which resulted in that great answer #1422: .

And I cried again. I cry now too, as I understand. For me it is as a revelation, altough I know the real revelation will follow.

I cry, as I see that we are glorious beings, special, precious, loved beyond any measures by our prime creator. What a relief it is to KNOW this. And this is the most important part that I learned from the thuban material dear friend.

I wish that you can understand and feel my feelings right now, you beloved avalonians.

As...I AM ME...I AM ME...I AM ME...and you are all ME too…

So, there in the middle of that post, I read your words about me being the one taking the burden on my shoulders....

Abrax, dear friend, how did you knew the answer I got from my guides, which I still doesn’t want to accept? We know of only one, of our great master Jesus who did this once...and I’m not him. I know that one of my ‘gifts’ is to hold the energies on balance, as I’ve done this so many times before, but I can’t accept this.

And now back to the obligation...of why I had to post here once again.

In the last days, I exchanged a few PM’s with some of the memebrs here. And two of these dear souls, dear freinds, dear sisters had nothing much to say but THANK YOU...thank you for my previous posts on this thread, for the way I presented my thoughts and questions and how helpfull this has been to tem in order to understand the thuban material.

Dear one, may I thank YOU, once again, here in public. Thank you that you trusted me, that you take me the way I am. Thank you from thew deepest corners of my heart. I love you!
And...special thanks to you Lionhawk (you know why) and special thanks to you MyPlanet2 (you also know why).

Abrax, you mentiond that the fight is over. Well for me, it really is. I found my inner piec e once again and I can get back to ‘normal’ once again...but I will never be the same again.

I know now who I am...and no one, really NO ONE can take this knowledge away from me.

My very special thanks once again to you Abrax...you changed my life, for good.

With much love and much respect, truthfully and sincerelly yours
malletzky

[Myplanet2]

Overdrive with afterburners can give you quite a kick in the pants, eh Malletzky? (that is when it doesn't feel like a transporter malfunction ripping you atom from atom. Beautiful to watch your ride.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

This post is dedicated to all of you beloved members of this forum..and I only ask you to read further and try to understand the message of this humble soul...please. It is a long post, but you know me...I sometimes tend to express my feelings this way. I speak from my heart, so don't condemn me please.

I decided, for now, to put the muzzle that I put on my mouth few days ago away...as I feel obligated to do this. I will explain further why...

It's hard to begin, but Abrax, allow me to begin here with your post #1422: where you wrote the following sentence:



You know, the moment I decided I should go into an 'observer' modus, I didn't exactly knew why. Was it ok to leave this ‘fight’, as it seemed right then that it became really interesting . But, I just felt the guidance to do so, and I allways, allways trust my guidance. So I 'left' for a while...without knowing that I will experience the most profound and simultaniously, the greatest days of my earth life.

I 'observed' and absorbed the energies here on this thread, but also on all other threads as well...I absorbed your energies, and had to face them. What a hard task it was...and it is...but I do not complain.

I asked my 'guides' to explain to me why...why should I do this to me, why me.

Why should I feel like I feel, why should I cry like I've barely cried before in my life? Why? So many tears these day...for what?

As I awoke this morning, I had a strange feeling...something was brewing...I actually received an answer, but I couldn’t accept an answer like this. I...I do not held myself for being ‘humble or noble’ to even think something like that. There was the answer...and I had to swallow hard...was I really destined to absorbe all of your energies here and hold them in ballance for so long, until this issue here get ‘solved’? Was I destined to ease the burden....?

Really and honestly, I dismissed these thoughts. So I went back to the material and I asked you a question, which resulted in that great answer #1422: .

And I cried again. I cry now too, as I understand. For me it is as a revelation, altough I know the real revelation will follow.

I cry, as I see that we are glorious beings, special, precious, loved beyond any measures by our prime creator. What a relief it is to KNOW this. And this is the most important part that I learned from the thuban material dear friend.

I wish that you can understand and feel my feelings right now, you beloved avalonians.

As...I AM ME...I AM ME...I AM ME...and you are all ME too…

So, there in the middle of that post, I read your words about me being the one taking the burden on my shoulders....

Abrax, dear friend, how did you knew the answer I got from my guides, which I still doesn’t want to accept? We know of only one, of our great master Jesus who did this once...and I’m not him. I know that one of my ‘gifts’ is to hold the energies on balance, as I’ve done this so many times before, but I can’t accept this.

And now back to the obligation...of why I had to post here once again.

In the last days, I exchanged a few PM’s with some of the memebrs here. And two of these dear souls, dear freinds, dear sisters had nothing much to say but THANK YOU...thank you for my previous posts on this thread, for the way I presented my thoughts and questions and how helpfull this has been to tem in order to understand the thuban material.

Dear one, may I thank YOU, once again, here in public. Thank you that you trusted me, that you take me the way I am. Thank you from thew deepest corners of my heart. I love you!
And...special thanks to you Lionhawk (you know why) and special thanks to you MyPlanet2 (you also know why).

Abrax, you mentiond that the fight is over. Well for me, it really is. I found my inner piec e once again and I can get back to ‘normal’ once again...but I will never be the same again.

I know now who I am...and no one, really NO ONE can take this knowledge away from me.

My very special thanks once again to you Abrax...you changed my life, for good.

With much love and much respect, truthfully and sincerelly yours
malletzky

Well my dear brothersister, the old EVIL=LIVE Bard of the Dragons and the Scribe of the Unicorns got a bit emotional too in the last cycle of the Dawn following the Long Night after the Evening.

Dont deny your christening dear twin. Visit the master's handbook and meet Didymos Thomas, the Gemini - the Twin of the Cosmic Mirrorhood.

I'll share the great hidden secret there and a secret which is is not required to be hidden any longer. Then you will understand your christening and twinship to the master himherself.

(13) Jesus said to His disciples : "Compare Me and tell Me whom I am like"
Simon Peter said to Him : "You are like a righteous angel."
Matthew said to Him : "You are like a wise philosopher."
Thomas said to Him : "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying what You are like."
Jesus said : "Your Master, because You have drunk, I am not ; You have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring of living water which I have measured out."

And He took him aside and spoke three words to him. When Thomas came back to his companions, they asked him : "What did Jesus say to You ?" Thomas answered them : "If I tell You one of the words He said to me, You will take up stones and throw them at me and fire will come out of the stones and burn You."

The answer dear malletzky now describes your voluntary exile. You became Thomas Dydimos, Twinbrother of the Living Jesus.

{This event occurred in the timeperiod between May 20th, 32 AD and August 4th, 33 AD and engaged the RESURRECTED EVERLIVING LOGOS of the Universe.}

"He simply said; pointing at himself, then Thomas, then John of Zebedee and then Mary Magdalene, both of whom were standing near Simon Peter a little distance away at their fireplace: 'I am you, you are him and he is her!'"

And for the Marias as the New Eves of the Creation:

(114) Simon Peter said to them : "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said : "Look, I will guide her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit like You males. For every female who will make herself male will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."


THE DAWN OF A NEW STARHUMANITY HAS BEGUN!

So may the next Dydimos Thomas raise hisher hand to learn the 'three secrets'?

Sirebard Beardris

[bigmo]

Congratulations Malletzky,

Many on this thread have also felt the powerful energy in like and kind, on the revelation of this information. My hats off to you for your inquiring questions (and to all others who participated as well) and to Abraxas for his brilliant answers. (as always)

Peace to all participants of this thread... Peace to Avalon members and to the world at large and may Peace reign throughout the universe as willed by our loving and incredible creator!

Bigmo

[Unified Serenity]

I can't help but wonder how many who seek to walk in the light, to heal and help others and follow a path of divine oneness see that the true message of ultimate unity is being perverted by a false concept of oneness offered by some.

There is this idea of rebooting one's soul or hard drive. Wipe it clean, start fresh with new eyes. Well, that would all depend on what information one then allows to be placed as their new operating system as it were. Sure, it might sound good, look good, and be pleasing to the senses, but does that make it truth?

Yes, by all means, look into the mirror. Only you know your own souls drive and can and will answer for the pathways and energy you put into achieving that end desire.

Ultimately though, there is only one truth. Few will know it until the creator shares it with all, and then no one need speak to another of what the truth is for we will all know it. I did not say follow it, but we will all know it.

Blessed be,

Unified Serenity

[UncleJohn]

Hi Abrax, I have not ask a question in awhile so here it goes.

It seems to me that the best answer comes from the best question.

So my question to Abrax, is what is the best question we could ask you?

Thanks Uncle John

[Anchor]

Abraxasinas

Thanks for still answering questions.

In addition to my previous question, I would very much like an interpretation or commentary on the lords prayer. For reference, this is what I think the KJV version is:

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
the power and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.

If there are any "edits" to this that have been made from the original words - it would be great if you could highlight/restore to the original (in English though).

A..

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Abraxasinas

Thanks for still answering questions.

In addition to my previous question, I would very much like an interpretation or commentary on the lords prayer. For reference, this is what I think the KJV version is:

Our Father, who art in heaven,
OUR Beloved Prime Creator of the Oneness; Source of All That was and is and will exist;


hallowed be thy name.
WE as creative individuations of your glorious Self as ONE;
WE honour your name and your definition in the Laws of Nature.

Thy Kingdom come,
Your Kingdom shall be OUR Kingdom

thy will be done,
Your Word and Definition of Harmony shall prevail as Cosmic Law;

on earth as it is in heaven
in OUR merged Quantum Relativistic Reality of the Many in One and the One in Many;

Give us this day our daily bread.
Provide US with your Sourceenergy of the Lovephotons to sustain US in the NOW;

And forgive us our trespasses,
And enlighten US in OUR forgetfulness about Who WE are as parts of You

as we forgive those who trespass against us.
as WE shall try to enlighten the ones of US who have forgotten who they are;

And lead us not into temptation,
Allow OUR Mindwaves to be able to discern the context of the polarity in its contextual background, so that WE shall not have to experience separation from you in OUR individual representations of what you are

but deliver us from evil.
but allow US to always Understand the EVIL being LIVE in it's mirror duality harmonized

For thine is the kingdom,
For you are OUR Source, Energy of All That Is, in your Oneness encompassing US as your Individual Personas

the power and the glory,
the power of Love and the glory thereof,

for ever and ever.
for OUR experience of eternity together as a Family of Creators.

Amen.
In your Name as Our Name We close the Circle of God in Amen in the N of the Omega-Head becoming the N of the Omega-Tail for a New Beginning and a New Alpha-Head.
AMEN=AlphaOmega unified.



If there are any "edits" to this that have been made from the original words - it would be great if you could highlight/restore to the original (in English though).

A..

Beloved Anchor of the Rock!

The above represents the translated meaning for the Lord's Prayer,
but in poetic licence is individualized to the discerner.

Sirebard

[TRANCOSO]

Your above Jesus, Matthew, Peter, Paul & Mary answer to my question:

Dear Abraxasinas, are you gonna hang around at this forum untill the end of days?

made no sense to me at all. Nor was I impressed or amused by it.

Maybe I missed the clue, because I only speed-read your reply, but I asked a simple question & perhaps you could have the descency to reply with a short, simple, to the point answer.

So let me rephrase the question: how much longer are you gonna keep this thread alive?

Because the moment you stop replying, this thread will dry up.
Under the given circumstances that might not be a bad idea.

Set your ego aside for a week or 2 - 3, & let the whole Thuban thing slowly melt away, so people can distance themselves a bit from this hype.

In the meantime, perhaps you can answer peoples questions by private messages.

Some time ago I started a thread called 'The Good, The Bad & The Banned'.

Now, if I wanted to keep that thread alive, I could push it every other day, & I'm pretty sure it would be totally legitimed to do so. I also know that it would probably suck the blood away from under the nails of a couple of moderators. And meanwhile I'd be preaching love, peace, respect & understanding in some other threads, to keep up appearances.

That's a bit what you're doing right now, in my humble opinion.

So again: How much longer are you gonna keep this thread alive?

L&R

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

Your above Jesus, Matthew, Peter, Paul & Mary answer to my question: made no sense to me at all. Nor was I impressed or amused by it.

Maybe I missed the clue, because I only speed-read your reply, but I asked a simple question & perhaps you could have the descency to reply with a short, simple, to the point answer.

So let me rephrase the question: how much longer are you gonna keep this thread alive?

Because the moment you stop replying, this thread will dry up.
Under the given circumstances that might not be a bad idea.

Set your ego aside for a week or 2 - 3, & let the whole Thuban thing slowly melt away, so people can distance themselves a bit from this hype.

In the meantime, perhaps you can answer peoples questions by private messages.

Some time ago I started a thread called 'The Good, The Bad & The Banned'.

Now, if I wanted to keep that thread alive, I could push it every other day, & I'm pretty sure it would be totally legitimed to do so. I also know that it would probably suck the blood away from under the nails of a couple of moderators. And meanwhile I'd be preaching love, peace, respect & understanding in some other threads, to keep up appearances.

That's a bit what you're doing right now, in my humble opinion.

So again: How much longer are you gonna keep this thread alive?

L&R

As long as I am given the authority to do so by the Logos. To participate or not to participate so is not in my authority to decide.
Should this thread be closed by the PTB, then this will be the choice of our master templar and not mine.

So dear Trancoso, as long as this thread is open, I shall be here; sometimes in a more colloquial manner than at other times - here at the Mount of Olives.

Abraxas

[TRANCOSO]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

As long as I am given the authority to do so by the Logos. To participate or not to participate so is not in my authority to decide.
Should this thread be closed by the PTB, then this will be the choice of our master templar and not mine.

So dear Trancoso, as long as this thread is open, I shall be here; sometimes in a more colloquial manner than at other times - here at the Mount of Olives.

Abraxas

Lovely.

[Anchor]

The decision of the forum founder (Bill), trumps those of me or any other of the moderators who were ok to let this carry on.

This thread therefore is closed

- closed -

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by UncleJohn

Hi Abrax, I have not ask a question in awhile so here it goes.

It seems to me that the best answer comes from the best question.

So my question to Abrax, is what is the best question we could ask you?

Thanks Uncle John

The best question beloved Uncle Johnathan of the Living Stones is the question you can ask your image in your mirror.

Go there and look into your own eyes and ask:

Who is the most glorious being in the universe?

Then your Image, if deobscured by falsehoods, will say: You are - I am!

Sirebard