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[carriblu]

the new world order isn't a group of people. who the people are that are trying to bring the world under new order is what you're trying to figure out.
in other words, you're asking if we know of anyone specifically trying to bring us under a new world order, but wording it wrong by calling these people the new world order.

i don't know of any, i'd be interested to know if anyone else does, i would imagine its basically the richest people in the world and anyone else that has a position with a lot of influence or power, anyone that would benifit from a new world order really.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by carriblu

the new world order isn't a group of people. who the people are that are trying to bring the world under new order is what you're trying to figure out.

But almost every conspiracy nowadays is attributed to NWO, are you telling me that no one even knows or has figured out who the pushers of this NWO agenda are? We know every single conspiracy perpetrated but we don't know who the perpetrators are?

i don't know of any, i'd be interested to know if anyone else does

The problem is everybody has a different answer. If there were a unified consensus on the matter I'd stop asking, but there doesn't seem to be any consensus at all.

[gita]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Thank you, you've identified three families, and a malevolent ET race.

The reason I ask, its very interesting, every time I ask this question on forums like these, you know I always get a different answer. And for some odd reason, many are upset by this question, which I have no clue as to why.


David Icke is a superb investigator.

Originally Posted by Majorion

But almost every conspiracy nowadays is attributed to NWO, are you telling me that no one even knows or has figured out who the pushers of this NWO agenda are? We know every single conspiracy perpetrated but we don't know who the perpetrators are?


The problem is everybody has a different answer. If there were a unified consensus on the matter I'd stop asking, but there doesn't seem to be any consensus at all.

Some of us believe we may know who they are thanks to extensive research of Icke and many whistleblowers. There are 13 identified families and they mainly contain the European royalties and some Chinese, then you get some of their henchmen such as Kissinger. I don’t remember all the names of the families but they are identified and their family tree mapped.

Icke’s research on their ‘family’ tree is extensive and you have to read his earlier books to know who they are and how they came to be. Prince Philip is apparently very high in the hierarchy followed by the Queen of England. Apparently the only being the queen mother feared was Pindar (an albino reptile who is revered most in the reptilian hierarchy).

I was surprised that you asked the question but was not upset at all by your question – the way I see it you’re trying to get some tangible details. I must admit I always thought that there was a consensus – there are tens of thousands of people who are aware of Icke’s research who seem to mostly have the same consensus – look on his forums and people seem to be in agreement on this as most of them also have done their own research which matches up to Icke’s.

Hope this helps.

[carriblu]

yea it is extremely frustrating, but for me it comes down to this. It is obvious that there is complete corruption of the United States. the reason we dont have specifics is because they stay in the shadows and let us go on thinking we have a democratic republic. i mean, you can see it in their eyes. obama is as fake as a news reporter, he's reading a script, he has no true passion, and it's the same for all our leaders.

i know it is brought much deeper, as deep as aliens, and i havn't exactly recognized that yet. but you don't need to go that deep to see what is as clear as day. our country is controlled by a small number of people and they are not the people on tv. the proffitable thing for these people to do is to bring the world under one system, a new order, and if it's proffitable then it's probable.

[gita]

Majorion, you should get more details reading Icke’s book on line – The Biggest Secret.

And more details in ’And the Truth Shall Set You Free’.


They are very in depth and should help you to clarify who these NWO people are and of their origins.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by gita

Majorion, you should get more details reading Icke’s book on line – The Biggest Secret.

And more details in ’And the Truth Shall Set You Free’

Thanks, I actually like David Icke, in fact I understand perfectly what he is saying. Though this doesn't negate the fact that different people are going to arrive at different conclusions, I have my own opinion on the matter, and since this is an NWO topic I just wanted to expound by asking questions so we can all dig deeper and do our own re-search. For example, here's an excellent question. Now we can all agree that 9/11 was a false flag operation, correct? okay, so who was behind this operation? If the answer is NWO, then I'm going to ask, which NWO? In other words, you can easily define the NWO in David Icke's words and through his material. But I wanna know what you think, what are the conclusions you came to in your own way? Not what others are saying, because we already know what they are saying.

Originally Posted by Seashore

And I am trying to understand the idea that the Illuminati, themselves, are controlled by entities in the 4th dimension.

Is this the most important thing that we should know? Or is it not even true?

That's the whole point of asking questions, we reexamine these things and see if they hold up to scrutiny. I'm glad you mention importance.
By the way I just realized you were highlighting a spelling error of mine, you can blame my keyboard, its barely operable.

Originally Posted by carriblu

the reason we dont have specifics is because they stay in the shadows and let us go on thinking we have a democratic republic.

Nobody can stay in the shadows indefinitely. And this is in no way a confined United States matter or just about the people controlling President Obama. What I'm asking is not who controls America, I'm asking the bigger question of who controls the entire world. Ultimately you can't treat this like a ghost-chase and give up on an answer.

Originally Posted by carriblu

i know it is brought much deeper, as deep as aliens, and i havn't exactly recognized that yet. but you don't need to go that deep to see what is as clear as day. our country is controlled by a small number of people and they are not the people on tv.

Let me be honest with you on this point, I haven't seen any evidence for any alien threat or direct control over any earth government, though I will not deny an alien presence, in fact I think there's more than one race of ET that have influenced earth for eons, but that's a far cry from implicating them in some New World Order agenda.

[gita]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Thanks, I actually like David Icke, in fact I understand perfectly what he is saying. Though this doesn't negate the fact that different people are going to arrive at different conclusions, I have my own opinion on the matter, and since this is an NWO topic I just wanted to expound by asking questions so we can all dig deeper and do our own re-search. For example, here's an excellent question. Now we can all agree that 9/11 was a false flag operation, correct? okay, so who was behind this operation? If the answer is NWO, then I'm going to ask, which NWO? In other words, you can easily define the NWO in David Icke's words and through his material. But I wanna know what you think, what are the conclusions you came to in your own way? Not what others are saying, because we already know what they are saying.

I’ve always done my own research and most of the time synchronicity has brought to me info that I would have never researched and in time I realised that everything seemed to be connected. I came across Icke’s work many years ago but left it alone due to the reptilian connection but as I did my own research I decided to have a look at his work again and was amazed how much of it matched. In a way, it would’ve been much easier for me to have just gone by his work to begin with but I suppose it’s better this way as I already had come to the info on my own merits and don’t have to wonder whether his info are correct or not.

From what I’ve researched, the order for 9/11 seems to have come from the Rothchilds’ Zionist secret government who used Mossad to carry out the attack. The same security services are now in charge of so called security at major airports whose latest security gadgets seems to be scanners. The Zionist government benefited the most from the attack including financially – this is my understanding so far. I’m intrigued to know how you perceive it as another’s view is always welcomed in my book.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by gita

From what I’ve researched, the order for 9/11 seems to have come from the Rothchilds’ Zionist secret government who used Mossad to carry out the attack. The same security services are now in charge of so called security at major airports whose latest security gadgets seems to be scanners. The Zionist government benefited the most from the attack including financially – this is my understanding so far.

I think I'm remembering correctly that Dr Bill Deagle has mentioned the Knights of Malta as the decision-maker for the attacks of 9-11.

[gita]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I think I'm remembering correctly that Dr Bill Deagle has mentioned the Knights of Malta as the decision-maker for the attacks of 9-11.

Rothchilds and Knights of Malta have almost the same shield as they are very connected. There are many members of Rothchilds that are also members of the Knights of Malta - from my understanding.

http://www.dejanlucic.net/Blackwater.html

http://www.whale.to/b/knights_q.html

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by gita

Rothchilds and Knights of Malta have almost the same shield as they are very connected. There are many members of Rothchilds that are also members of the Knights of Malta - from my understanding.

http://www.dejanlucic.net/Blackwater.html

http://www.whale.to/b/knights_q.html

Thanks, Gita!

I love it when members help me connect the dots.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by gita

I’ve always done my own research and most of the time synchronicity has brought to me info that I would have never researched and in time I realised that everything seemed to be connected. I came across Icke’s work many years ago but left it alone due to the reptilian connection...

I think that the reptilian thing may or may not be true, but the matter of concern here is that - if you present this case to an "outsider" of the conspiracy research world, now you can talk about all the ancient bloodlines and elite families and intelligence agencies and military industrial and the different occultist groups, but you will notice how all that information is immediately frowned upon the minute "reptilians control the world" is added to the phrase. And whether this is a fact or not or whether its true is pretty much irrelevant when you consider that key point I just mentioned.

From what I’ve researched, the order for 9/11 seems to have come from the Rothchilds’ Zionist secret government who used Mossad to carry out the attack. The same security services are now in charge of so called security at major airports whose latest security gadgets seems to be scanners. The Zionist government benefited the most from the attack including financially – this is my understanding so far. I’m intrigued to know how you perceive it as another’s view is always welcomed in my book.

I perceive the 9/11 incident just the way you do. However, this was one incident that benefited one group. What I'm getting at is that there are conflicts of interest not discussed or elaborated within the subtext of NWO. So if the New World Order / Globalization agenda is real, in other words the assumption here is that all these groups are unified. How do we know this to be the case, when there are several governments that clearly have conflicts of interest, when we also know that certain occultist groups have been at war with each other since the ancient times. For example, in Dark Mission, the conflict and struggle within NASA of the three groups for domination of the space agency: the masons, the nazis, and the magicians. The NWO concept however is contradictory; in that all of these groups (of the entire world) are said to be working together toward one unified government.

These two explanations can't both be right, one of them is wrong.

[gita]

Originally Posted by Majorion

I perceive the 9/11 incident just the way you do. However, this was one incident that benefited one group. What I'm getting at is that there are conflicts of interest not discussed or elaborated within the subtext of NWO. So if the New World Order / Globalization agenda is real, in other words the assumption here is that all these groups are unified. How do we know this to be the case, when there are several governments that clearly have conflicts of interest, when we also know that certain occultist groups have been at war with each other since the ancient times. For example, in Dark Mission, the conflict and struggle within NASA of the three groups for domination of the space agency: the masons, the nazis, and the magicians. The NWO concept however is contradictory; in that all of these groups (of the entire world) are said to be working together toward one unified government.

These two explanations can't both be right, one of them is wrong.

It’s a given that these fractions fight amongst themselves for that’s the nature of the beast. It’s like a circle within the circle. They all have the same goal but they fight amongst themselves to become higher in the hierarchy. If you remember the stories told by mind controlled whistleblowers who were also handlers themselves, they clearly say that this was the case. It’s also done by design so no one within the group be able to trust one of their own fully which keeps them more in fear and therefore more under control of the higher ups.

[Majorion]

Interesting the connection between the Knights Of Malta and Blackwater (now referred to as "XE"). I have always perceived the Blackwater militia in the sense of them being extremist christian crusaders of the 21st century. Thanks for the confirmation gita, you do excellent research. I applaud you.

By the way, this picture is very interesting on the website you linked, thought I'd post it here:

[gita]

You are most welcomed Majorion. I’ve decided to make things simple for myself in the way that every one of ‘them’ are connected to each other and most of the crap that goes on in our world and they also fight amongst themselves and this is sometimes for show but mostly because they lack divine light and are not aware of the concept of voluntary cooperation. Everything is competition to them which is one of the most apparent trait of the reptilians and reptilian brain.

[gita]

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