Why making God unfashionable never works..

Frank Samuel · 02-19-2010, 03:07 AM

I thank all for the answers provided to my questions. In the view that our inner essence is infinite and that the origin of all things was around beyond infinity, from that perspective I cannot imagine a parent who can judge and condemned his children because in a short life span they did not evolve into sainthood.
While Christianity does not believe in reincarnation it makes perfect sense to me. Never give up, if you fail get up, try and try again until you get it right. In my view all of us are ancient souls who are still learning and relearning from our past mistakes. The journey of each soul cannot be measure in time. I dare say that in past lifetimes many of us here where not benevolent beings, yet here we go again another lifetime and another opportunity to get it right.
That's pretty dam cool if you asked me, and this is why I do agree that the term God is always fashionable no matter what the culture or galaxies that we may be dwelling in.

truthseekerdan · 02-19-2010, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

While Christianity does not believe in reincarnation it makes perfect sense to me.

Frank Samuel · 02-19-2010, 04:32 AM

Just for the record I am not anti christian . I myself went to theology school when I was young. I spend half my life studying the Bible and historical facts concerning the Bible. As a theologian I spend many hours with colleagues debating the scriptures. I decided to keep an open mind and continue learning free to seek answers to the age old questions just trying my best to live a good life serving others as much as possible. Each soul is free to seek and find his true self without the judgment of the origin of all things. In the last few years I have learn more about our connection to our origin by using my resonator the heart, this has been an amazing journey. The answers are always found within our internal essence. Again I thank you all for stating your believes and viewpoints, it has brought back many memories and a smile to my face.

If I can summarize what I have learn in the last few years it will be along the line of the song title, " Don't worry be happy ".
Goodnight to all...

greybeard · 02-19-2010, 05:18 AM

orthdoxymoron
I would suggest if you are seriously looking for answers put in a scientific way then you read "Power versus Force" by Dr David Hawkins http://www.veritaspub.com/
and about him
http://www.veritaspub.com/index.php?page=about

You wont get an answer on a forum because the answer would be too long, though if you have a look on the "ego what is it, how to transcend" thread there are some relevant postings.

A translation of ego is sin.
The human ego is responsible for strife.
God is not responsible for what is done by humans, we were given free will.
God does not require prayer or even obedience, unconditional love is just that, unconditional.
The suggestion is to pray in order to develop humility therefore taking power away from the ego.
We punish ourselves by acting inappropriately towards others and reap what we sow.
In other words karma.

The system set up by God is self regulating through karma, and is therefore fair.
God is not describable in human terms and does not have human attributes.

Christianity believed in Karma up until the Council of Nancia (cant spell) ist century AD year approx 400. Thats a historical fact and at that time a lot of the chapters of the bible were omitted.

Just because I personally dont believe something dosent make it true or untrue.
Belief is just an opinion until there is some evidence.
Faith is a different ball game.
Faith says the kingdom of heaven is within.
All are equal, when that is realized then there can be no dictatorship.
Specialness is the last resort of the ego and how we fall for that one.

Chris

02-19-2010, 03:07 AM	#1
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. I thank all for the answers provided to my questions. In the view that our inner essence is infinite and that the origin of all things was around beyond infinity, from that perspective I cannot imagine a parent who can judge and condemned his children because in a short life span they did not evolve into sainthood. While Christianity does not believe in reincarnation it makes perfect sense to me. Never give up, if you fail get up, try and try again until you get it right. In my view all of us are ancient souls who are still learning and relearning from our past mistakes. The journey of each soul cannot be measure in time. I dare say that in past lifetimes many of us here where not benevolent beings, yet here we go again another lifetime and another opportunity to get it right. That's pretty dam cool if you asked me, and this is why I do agree that the term God is always fashionable no matter what the culture or galaxies that we may be dwelling in.

02-19-2010, 04:32 AM	#3
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. Just for the record I am not anti christian . I myself went to theology school when I was young. I spend half my life studying the Bible and historical facts concerning the Bible. As a theologian I spend many hours with colleagues debating the scriptures. I decided to keep an open mind and continue learning free to seek answers to the age old questions just trying my best to live a good life serving others as much as possible. Each soul is free to seek and find his true self without the judgment of the origin of all things. In the last few years I have learn more about our connection to our origin by using my resonator the heart, this has been an amazing journey. The answers are always found within our internal essence. Again I thank you all for stating your believes and viewpoints, it has brought back many memories and a smile to my face.If I can summarize what I have learn in the last few years it will be along the line of the song title, " Don't worry be happy ". Goodnight to all...

02-19-2010, 05:18 AM	#4
greybeard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Inverness Scotland Posts: 924	Re: Why making God unfashionable never works.. orthdoxymoron I would suggest if you are seriously looking for answers put in a scientific way then you read "Power versus Force" by Dr David Hawkins http://www.veritaspub.com/ and about him http://www.veritaspub.com/index.php?page=about You wont get an answer on a forum because the answer would be too long, though if you have a look on the "ego what is it, how to transcend" thread there are some relevant postings. A translation of ego is sin. The human ego is responsible for strife. God is not responsible for what is done by humans, we were given free will. God does not require prayer or even obedience, unconditional love is just that, unconditional. The suggestion is to pray in order to develop humility therefore taking power away from the ego. We punish ourselves by acting inappropriately towards others and reap what we sow. In other words karma. The system set up by God is self regulating through karma, and is therefore fair. God is not describable in human terms and does not have human attributes. Christianity believed in Karma up until the Council of Nancia (cant spell) ist century AD year approx 400. Thats a historical fact and at that time a lot of the chapters of the bible were omitted. Just because I personally dont believe something dosent make it true or untrue. Belief is just an opinion until there is some evidence. Faith is a different ball game. Faith says the kingdom of heaven is within. All are equal, when that is realized then there can be no dictatorship. Specialness is the last resort of the ego and how we fall for that one. Chris Last edited by greybeard; 02-19-2010 at 05:30 AM.