Civilized World Must Protect Iran and Consequently Itself

[gita]

Originally Posted by burgundia

So many are saying that only an idiot would start a war....and who do you think started all other wars then?
An attack on Iran would start a turmoil all over the world? of course...but don't we know that this is what has been planned?

Yes, it seems pretty obvious that it has been planned all along. Just look at the evidence, Iran is completely surrounded - apart from the north as that's Russian territory. It doesn’t bear thinking about!

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by gita

Yes, it seems pretty obvious that it has been planned all along. Just look at the evidence, Iran is completely surrounded - apart from the north as that's Russian territory. It doesn’t bear thinking about!

Of course its a plan already in place. The more important question is who's plan that is and whom intends to dictate that plan. The answer is Israel, and their continued influence on American foreign policy.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Well few people know that at the beginning of this Nation those fighting for our freedom ran out of funds for arms and supplies and one very rich man came forward and opened his coffer to give the final push needed to make it happen.

That man, was a jew, that died a pauper, the Fathers of our country promised for as long as it stood it would be there to help his people.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

That man, was a jew, that died a pauper, the Fathers of our country promised for as long as it stood it would be there to help his people.

People can come up with all sorts of "reasons" for support.

Does that justify genocide, and countless criminal acts, all in the name of prophecy?

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" -- Sir Oscar Wilde

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by Majorion

People can come up with all sorts of "reasons" for support.

Does that justify genocide, and countless criminal acts, all in the name of prophecy?

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" -- Sir Oscar Wilde

Supporting the people has nothing to do with agreeing with atrocities performed by a few...

A friend of mine is from Palestinie and he says the people doing the attacks against Israel are mostly mentally ill and have been chosen by those stirring trouble, which if you follow it back leads to Iran.

They know Israel will respond brutally for these attacks which brings more people towards the cause of protecting the palestinians.

Instead of launching bombs, Israel should build mental hospitals to help those in need. Saudi Arabia has Extremist re-programming facilities that teaches a moderate Islam and they have been very successful in stemming the rise of terrorist in their country because of it.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

A friend of mine is from Palestinie and he says the people doing the attacks against Israel are mostly mentally ill and have been chosen by those stirring trouble, which if you follow it back leads to Iran.

This is nothing compared to what means USA use to achieve its aims.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by burgundia

This is nothing compared to what means USA use to achieve its aims.

so should you be held responsible for what Hitler did to jews in your country?

We are all pawns and trying to survive the manipulations of those in power.

Hitler was a Jew, what made him turn against them?

Did he know their plans and was just instrumental in moving it all forward advised by someone who knew?

Didn't he do exactly what the Leader of Iran is doing now? Causing the death and destruction of the Palestinians to earn the pity of the world?

[gita]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

so should you be held responsible for what Hitler did to jews in your country?

Well below the belt and totally unnecessary - boo.

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

Didn't he do exactly what the Leader of Iran is doing now? Causing the death and destruction of the Palestinians to earn the pity of the world?

Are we living on the same planet here? Don't you mean Israel? You seem to have it in for Iran for some reason. It seems that you just want to rant. I’ve been reading some of your posts on this and a lot of it doesn’t make sense to me and I especially had to giggle when you said it was the mentally ill Palestinians making trouble on the orders of Iran – seriously what??

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

so should you be held responsible for what Hitler did to jews in your country?

As you probably noticed I didn't use the word Americans, but USA, the state and its policy.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by burgundia

As you probably noticed I didn't use the word Americans, but USA, the state and its policy.

I seriously didn't mean to hurt you with that comment but we are all in a liferaft hanging on and hoping we survive...

This isn't a time for finger pointing, it is for digging out facts of who and what is behind all of it.

anywhere you go in the world you will find wonderful people, and leaders with strong ideals that want to make changes like Obama don't realize until they take power that they have none...

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

This isn't a time for finger pointing, it is for digging out facts of who and what is behind all of it.

anywhere you go in the world you will find wonderful people, and leaders with strong ideals that want to make changes like Obama don't realize until they take power that they have none...

You are right, so what was your original message in this thread, because right now I am lost...to me it looked like USA good , Iran bad...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by burgundia

You are right, so what was your original message in this thread, because right now I am lost...to me it looked like USA good , Iran bad...

my original message in this thread was qute clear...

Iran will change from the inside, the process is already happening the harder the government cracks down the stronger the population rises against it.

The country is run by an absolute lunatic, the Grande Ayasolla.

[joe2288]

There is a step system for persuading governments to join your side that the powers that be use.

-Bribe the government leaders into seeing things your way.

-Assassinate key leaders if brides fail until leaders are in place who will accept terms.

-Start revolutions in countries if assassinations and bribes do not work.

-If that fails launch war.

We are still at step three with Iran and if there revolution fails well probably be going in.

[gita]

Originally Posted by joe2288

There is a step system for persuading governments to join your side that the powers that be use.

-Bribe the government leaders into seeing things your way.

-Assassinate key leaders if brides fail until leaders are in place who will accept terms.

-Start revolutions in countries if assassinations and bribes do not work.

-If that fails launch war.

We are still at step three with Iran and if there revolution fails well probably be going in.

Correct terminology CIA use for the above;

1. Send in the economic assassins

2. Send in the jackals.

3. Start a war.

[joe2288]

Originally Posted by gita

Correct terminology CIA use for the above;

1. Send in the economic assassins

2. Send in the jackals.

3. Start a war.

yeah well they also do revolutions that is last case and then war. right know they are in there trying to start a revolution.

[gita]

Originally Posted by burgundia

This is nothing compared to what means USA use to achieve its aims.

Well said.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by gita

Well said.

Don't be too cocky, it was England that put the Grand Ayassola into power in Iran the world government controlling the US leads back to you...

It is time for truths to be revealed and I'm not afraid of pulling down the veils of secrecy...

[joe2288]

people relax we are on the same team here lol remember.

[gita]

[QUOTE=Rocky_Shorz;238957]Don't be too cocky, it was England that put the Grand Ayassola into power in Iran the world government controlling the US leads back to you... [QUOTE]


What?? Yet another rant! You seem to take great pride in belittling people on this thread and seeing them as idiots - and according to you only you know the truth and everyone else is too dumb to know anything about anything. Most of us here do our best to find the truth no matter which country we belong to and whose country has done the worst. I don't equal the people of any country with their governments and I'd like to hold on to the belief that most people on this planet are good beings. Has it occurred to you that your truth may not be the complete truth and maybe allow others to have theirs?

It's one thing to have a discussion but it's another to use a thread just to stroke your own ego.

Much Peace to you my friend.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well you all feel comfortable at verbally attacking the US and blaming it for everything, but the truth is, that isn't so.

I share my opinions just like everyone else here but when I see you have stopped looking for truths and are stuck at a point of realization you are comfortable with I will open you once again to further paths to follow.

2000 years ago it was written that a great Nation would rise from the winderness and like it or not, that is the US.

on 9/11 there was an attack on the US, if you open Revelation you will see pasasage 9:11 is the rise of Abaddon the evil meant to destroy the world...

We are all on a predestined path and those of us who have good in our hearts are meant to seek out the truth and stop the outcome that was written to change the future of the world.

The prophesies of the future are a warning of what is coming, teaching and allowing future generations to understand and prevent a disastrous outcome.

[gita]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

on 9/11 there was an attack on the US, if you open Revelation you will see pasasage 9:11 is the rise of Abaddon the evil meant to destroy the world...

Overwhelming evidence shows 911 was ‘an inside’ job. Even the majority of American people have come to this conclusion. US government attacked their own people in order to scaremonger them into attacking a few other innocent countries. This argument, my friend has no leg to stand on. US has waged more wars and killed more people than any other country – at times with the help of UK. Considering all this, the great evil that you speak of seems to be US government (not the people).

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

A friend of mine is from Palestinie and he says the people doing the attacks against Israel are mostly mentally ill and have been chosen by those stirring trouble, which if you follow it back leads to Iran.

May I respectfully suggest that yourself and your friend are uninformed, in fact the so called aggressions alleged to have been sparked by Palestinian factions have most often been false flag MOSSAD operations to accelerate the conquering of Palestinian territory.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Originally Posted by Majorion

May I respectfully suggest that yourself and your friend are uninformed, in fact the so called aggressions alleged to have been sparked by Palestinian factions have most often been false flag MOSSAD operations to accelerate the conquering of Palestinian territory.

good suggestion, but as I said many secret societies are all working towards the same goal.

Imagine waking up one day to the realization that not only were you King David II but also the one meant to walk into Iran as the 12th to teach them all of the truths they have been waiting for.

Israel and Iran have been waiting for centuries for this moment and they both will have to listen... I demand both of them to stay the hand...

my goal is to travel to The Garden of Eden in Kurdistan to be there for the last day of the Mayan Calendar.

The next morning when I awake, it is my birthday and the first day of the new Mayan Calendar...

So much to teach and so little time to do it...

[housemouse2]

I think all this talk about attacking Iran is more of a distraction than a reality. Russia made it rather clear that: "Any attack on Iran would be very bad for the US."

Meaning if anyone attacks Iran (here that Israel?) Russia will unleash a fury on the USA.

I really don't think Israel can afford to lose it's primary sugar daddy right now. But the tensions make great "junk food news."

[K626]

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

Well few people know that at the beginning of this Nation those fighting for our freedom ran out of funds for arms and supplies and one very rich man came forward and opened his coffer to give the final push needed to make it happen.

That man, was a jew, that died a pauper, the Fathers of our country promised for as long as it stood it would be there to help his people.

Tell me more.