Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

hippihillbobbi · 02-11-2010, 03:43 PM

Abraxas --

1 Thanks a bunch for your comments on "substitutionary atonement." they were very helpful. i also liked the way you put this (i guess it's you...in one of your various versions...John Shadow aka Hans Schatten) in the intro to the channeled info i quoted earlier:

".....it is the RESURRECTION within Yourselves and NOT the Crucifixion, which becomes the PIVOT for your existence and partnership with the historical Yeshua.
He 'gave up' his human existence, so he could BECOME the universal body, which encompasses all of you as a 'LightBody'.
All of you are 'trapped' like cells in the Body of Christ, which spans both the Old Earth as a subrealm of the entire universe and the Old Universe as its encompassment.

"So to GET OUT of the enveloping body; you are required to REDEEM Yourselves in bearing witness to the Cosmic Neverending Story and to become Reborn in the Resurrection.
2012 will be the nexus point, when everyone, alive dead and dead alive will have the opportunity to SEVER the umbilical cord, connecting you to the Old Universal Body Gestalt.

"Not all will be able to Cut the Cords of the Rebirth, which shall be universal at the Beginning of the New Cycle of the Starhumanity.

"All of you will eventually 'come to see the Cosmic Christ' within yourselves; but then many of the sceptics and the nay-sayers MUST have 'eggs and tomatoes' on their illuminated faces - so be it!

"I end with this and any queries, I might answer at a later time or perhaps through my scribe John Shadow, who IS NOT the Tony B, many of you believe him to be.

"IAmWhoIAm - the Channel of John Shadow!"

2 AA -- do you feel like sharing anything about your various "aliases" (John, Hans, Abraxas...any more?) and how you view them. the highlighted phrases above are so intriguing!

3 Also (hopefully i'm not being too pesty here)

but i'm wondering why "you" (as John Shadow or his Channel??) seemed to assess Helen Shueman's readings as more "credible" than you (as Abraxas) seem to do now (re: your comment in an above post about these channelings and the Holy Spirit).

"Helen Shucman claimed to channel Yeshuah aka the Jesus of conventional Christianity.....

"Generally, and akin to the Seth channel of Jane Roberts; Helen Shucman transmits at the 99% percentile in a mode very near superconsciousness - meaning she is fully conscious when transmitting her messages.

"Her claim to write in the name of Jesus/Yeshua so deserves great credibility."

As ever, Abraxas, i so appreciate your time and energy on our behalf!

hippihill

abraxasinas · 02-11-2010, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

Abraxas --

1 Thanks a bunch for your comments on "substitutionary atonement." they were very helpful. i also liked the way you put this (i guess it's you...in one of your various versions...John Shadow aka Hans Schatten) in the intro to the channeled info i quoted earlier:

".....it is the RESURRECTION within Yourselves and NOT the Crucifixion, which becomes the PIVOT for your existence and partnership with the historical Yeshua.
He 'gave up' his human existence, so he could BECOME the universal body, which encompasses all of you as a 'LightBody'.
All of you are 'trapped' like cells in the Body of Christ, which spans both the Old Earth as a subrealm of the entire universe and the Old Universe as its encompassment.

"So to GET OUT of the enveloping body; you are required to REDEEM Yourselves in bearing witness to the Cosmic Neverending Story and to become Reborn in the Resurrection.
2012 will be the nexus point, when everyone, alive dead and dead alive will have the opportunity to SEVER the umbilical cord, connecting you to the Old Universal Body Gestalt.

"Not all will be able to Cut the Cords of the Rebirth, which shall be universal at the Beginning of the New Cycle of the Starhumanity.

"All of you will eventually 'come to see the Cosmic Christ' within yourselves; but then many of the sceptics and the nay-sayers MUST have 'eggs and tomatoes' on their illuminated faces - so be it!

"I end with this and any queries, I might answer at a later time or perhaps through my scribe John Shadow, who IS NOT the Tony B, many of you believe him to be.

"IAmWhoIAm - the Channel of John Shadow!"

2 AA -- do you feel like sharing anything about your various "aliases" (John, Hans, Abraxas...any more?) and how you view them. the highlighted phrases above are so intriguing!

Sure hippihill!

John Shadow is English for Hans Schatten as the same ID. This ID 'walked-in' for a previous ID TonyB. aka the owner of the website you found this material on.

John Shadow aka Hans Schatten were 'walked-in' by Abraxas in so eliminating the 'channeling' of say 3rd order by a 2nd order closer to the source.

3 Also (hopefully i'm not being too pesty here)

but i'm wondering why "you" (as John Shadow or his Channel??) seemed to assess Helen Shueman's readings as more "credible" than you (as Abraxas) seem to do now (re: your comment in an above post about these channelings and the Holy Spirit).

"Helen Shucman claimed to channel Yeshuah aka the Jesus of conventional Christianity.....

"Generally, and akin to the Seth channel of Jane Roberts; Helen Shucman transmits at the 99% percentile in a mode very near superconsciousness - meaning she is fully conscious when transmitting her messages.

"Her claim to write in the name of Jesus/Yeshua so deserves great credibility."

As ever, Abraxas, i so appreciate your time and energy on our behalf!

hippihill

I have highlighted (in red) the interpretation of the 'channeling' of 3rd order, which assigned 'high credibility' to Helen Schucman.
This has not changed, but the 2nd order simply understands the true Yeshuah as being necessarily 'more filtered' in polarisation in 3rd order than is the case in 2nd order.
Yeshuah himherself would operate from 1st order.

AA

bigmo · 02-11-2010, 04:57 PM

To all of you:

I know that at anytime I or those contributing to this thread may loose access or their ability to participate here do to circumstances beyond our control.

Since there is no time like the present I wish to take a moment and extend a heart felt and humble thanks to all of you who have participated and contributed to Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

For me it has proven to be one of the most illuminating and revealing discussions I have ever witnessed and is one of the primary reasons for my participation with Project Avalon.

I have known for years that there was 'something more' than the few strategically placed kernels of truth that I have been spoon fed throughout my lifetime. I have also taken Jesus at his word and have held close to my heart his admonishment to 'Knock and the door shall be opened'.

I believe that through this thread some of those 'doors have been opened'. I have not reached closure as of yet but have a renewed interest in the vital questions that have perplexed me over the years and I would guess, many others as well.

A special thanks to you Abraxas, for your contribution with your deep incites and revelations. You have made my mind flip inside and out and twist over and upon itself, which I am afraid was sorely needed!

I thank you and hold a deep gratitude to you for this and ask one additional question:

Is it within your power to show us the process by which we may also, gain access to the Thubane Records?

Peace to all of you!

dddanieljjjamesss · 02-11-2010, 05:38 PM

While I go back and read the other 43 pages of this thread (which may take some time!)

Is there anyone that wouldn't mind giving a few important recaps?

I know, just based on the first few pages, that may be a lot to ask...

Feel free to message me or respond in thread.

hippihillbobbi · 02-11-2010, 06:04 PM

dddaniel --

it definitely would be worth your time and energy to reread this 43-page thread

despite its intimidating length. i'm not sure there's any way exactly to just "hit the highlights," as the topics really do seem to run the gamut!! cosmology, spirituality, 2012, ascension, lots of advanced math (even though many of us have to skip alot of this part, i'm afraid). i guess pretty much any topic touched-on anywhere else on this forum MAY have been mentioned here as well .... or, if not, any are certainly "fair game." (though, if it's been covered before, Abraxas will sometimes refer you to this post or even resources outside PA & PC)

Hope you Enjoy the Ride, dddaniel!!!

hippihillbobbi

hippihillbobbi · 02-11-2010, 06:19 PM

Abraxas --

do you feel like sharing anything about your various "aliases" (John, Hans, Abraxas...any more?)

Sure hippihill!

John Shadow is English for Hans Schatten as the same ID. This ID 'walked-in' for a previous ID TonyB. aka the owner of the website you found this material on.

John Shadow aka Hans Schatten were 'walked-in' by Abraxas in so eliminating the 'channeling' of say 3rd order by a 2nd order closer to the source.

So then does it correlate that Sirebard Beardris is a "walk-in" for Abraxas???

And, while we're on the subject, AA ..... what exactly IS a walk-in? I suppose it's different from channelling in that Tony-John/Hans-Abraxas are all conscious while the information is being communicated???

Thanks again, AA.

hippihill

migp · 02-11-2010, 06:25 PM

Hi Abraxas,

One question. What do you think about this video. Is it true? can it be harmful?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRFC4vAR7yI

Thank you,

Malletzky · 02-11-2010, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmo

To all of you:

I know that at anytime I or those contributing to this thread may loose access or their ability to participate here do to circumstances beyond our control.

WHat do you mean by this Bigmo...do you have some informations?

Since there is no time like the present I wish to take a moment and extend a heart felt and humble thanks to all of you who have participated and contributed to Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

For me it has proven to be one of the most illuminating and revealing discussions I have ever witnessed and is one of the primary reasons for my participation with Project Avalon

I can only agree. How true.

I have known for years that there was 'something more' than the few strategically placed kernels of truth that I have been spoon fed throughout my lifetime. I have also taken Jesus at his word and have held close to my heart his admonishment to 'Knock and the door shall be opened'.

I believe that through this thread some of those 'doors have been opened'. I have not reached closure as of yet but have a renewed interest in the vital questions that have perplexed me over the years and I would guess, many others as well.

A special thanks to you Abraxas, for your contribution with your deep incites and revelations. You have made my mind flip inside and out and twist over and upon itself, which I am afraid was sorely needed!

I thank you and hold a deep gratitude to you for this and ask one additional question:

Is it within your power to show us the process by which we may also, gain access to the Thubane Records?

Peace to all of you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

dddaniel --

it definitely would be worth your time and energy to reread this 43-page thread

despite its intimidating length. i'm not sure there's any way exactly to just "hit the highlights," as the topics really do seem to run the gamut!! cosmology, spirituality, 2012, ascension, lots of advanced math (even though many of us have to skip alot of this part, i'm afraid). i guess pretty much any topic touched-on anywhere else on this forum MAY have been mentioned here as well .... or, if not, any are certainly "fair game." (though, if it's been covered before, Abraxas will sometimes refer you to this post or even resources outside PA & PC)

Hope you Enjoy the Ride, dddaniel!!!

hippihillbobbi

hehehe...Hippihill...I belong to these folks that really have to skip some parts of that advanced math, altough I consider myself having some good maths and physics background.

But that doesn't stop me of considering the presented material on these pages as highly intriguing, highly open minded, highly controversal, highly...

d

If we are above to accept the fact that we should consider all, really all possibilities about the nature of the 'true' existance of the human race (phisycaly and non-phisycaly, no matter what 'true' might mean), these pages must be contributed as a part of the wholeness.

Ignoring something makes ME ignorant and therefore limited in my further 'evolution'

Thank you all and thank you Abrax for your time and efforts.

with much respect
malletzky

rustanddust · 02-12-2010, 05:37 AM

what was the price on her head ?

abraxasinas · 02-12-2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by migp

Hi Abraxas,

One question. What do you think about this video. Is it true? can it be harmful?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRFC4vAR7yI

Thank you,

Hi migp!

It is well known by the brotherhood of the snake (illuminati+luminari); that the subliminal programming using 'catch words', like 'dying NASA scientist' or 'contact UFO' etc. can be very effective across a wide spectrum of the viewing populance.

This videa especially uses a potent archetype in the symbolic wheel of 13 starsign symbols - including the sign of the 'serpent tamer'.

The three little circles form the root reduced 12=1+2=3; 11=1+1=2 and 10=1+0=1.

The clip is so NOT dangerous for the informed watcher, but can lead into 'mind confusions' for the underinformed.

AA

abraxasinas · 02-12-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

Abraxas --

do you feel like sharing anything about your various "aliases" (John, Hans, Abraxas...any more?)

Sure hippihill!

John Shadow is English for Hans Schatten as the same ID. This ID 'walked-in' for a previous ID TonyB. aka the owner of the website you found this material on.

John Shadow aka Hans Schatten were 'walked-in' by Abraxas in so eliminating the 'channeling' of say 3rd order by a 2nd order closer to the source.

So then does it correlate that Sirebard Beardris is a "walk-in" for Abraxas???

Sirebard Beardris = Abraxas, both of 2nd order.

And, while we're on the subject, AA ..... what exactly IS a walk-in? I suppose it's different from channelling in that Tony-John/Hans-Abraxas are all conscious while the information is being communicated???

Thanks again, AA.

hippihill

Indeed, there NEVER was any 'subconscious' channeling associated with all labels mentioned by you. There are no 'trance' states; but there was a 'graduation' from 3rd order to 2nd order occurring in June 2008.
This 'graduation' allowed publication of the timeline mentioned a number of times in these messages.
The significance is, that the timeline in the pyramid converges with the Mayan timeline converges with the scriptural prophecies.
For example there are precisely 1600 days between the nodal mirror day of August 4th, 2008 to December 21st, 2012 {Revelation.14.20}.
You will NOT find this correlation anywhere on the earthplane, even the hidden databases are unaware of this.

AA

02-11-2010, 03:43 PM	#1
hippihillbobbi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oak Ridge, Tennessee, USA Posts: 120	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Abraxas -- 1 Thanks a bunch for your comments on "substitutionary atonement." they were very helpful. i also liked the way you put this (i guess it's you...in one of your various versions...John Shadow aka Hans Schatten) in the intro to the channeled info i quoted earlier: ".....it is the RESURRECTION within Yourselves and NOT the Crucifixion, which becomes the PIVOT for your existence and partnership with the historical Yeshua. He 'gave up' his human existence, so he could BECOME the universal body, which encompasses all of you as a 'LightBody'. All of you are 'trapped' like cells in the Body of Christ, which spans both the Old Earth as a subrealm of the entire universe and the Old Universe as its encompassment. "So to GET OUT of the enveloping body; you are required to REDEEM Yourselves in bearing witness to the Cosmic Neverending Story and to become Reborn in the Resurrection. 2012 will be the nexus point, when everyone, alive dead and dead alive will have the opportunity to SEVER the umbilical cord, connecting you to the Old Universal Body Gestalt. "Not all will be able to Cut the Cords of the Rebirth, which shall be universal at the Beginning of the New Cycle of the Starhumanity. "All of you will eventually 'come to see the Cosmic Christ' within yourselves; but then many of the sceptics and the nay-sayers MUST have 'eggs and tomatoes' on their illuminated faces - so be it! "I end with this and any queries, I might answer at a later time or perhaps through my scribe John Shadow, who IS NOT the Tony B, many of you believe him to be. "IAmWhoIAm - the Channel of John Shadow!" 2 AA -- do you feel like sharing anything about your various "aliases" (John, Hans, Abraxas...any more?) and how you view them. the highlighted phrases above are so intriguing! 3 Also (hopefully i'm not being too pesty here) but i'm wondering why "you" (as John Shadow or his Channel??) seemed to assess Helen Shueman's readings as more "credible" than you (as Abraxas) seem to do now (re: your comment in an above post about these channelings and the Holy Spirit). "Helen Shucman claimed to channel Yeshuah aka the Jesus of conventional Christianity..... "Generally, and akin to the Seth channel of Jane Roberts; Helen Shucman transmits at the 99% percentile in a mode very near superconsciousness - meaning she is fully conscious when transmitting her messages. "Her claim to write in the name of Jesus/Yeshua so deserves great credibility." As ever, Abraxas, i so appreciate your time and energy on our behalf! hippihill Last edited by hippihillbobbi; 02-11-2010 at 03:55 PM.

02-11-2010, 04:57 PM	#3
bigmo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 122	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) To all of you: I know that at anytime I or those contributing to this thread may loose access or their ability to participate here do to circumstances beyond our control. Since there is no time like the present I wish to take a moment and extend a heart felt and humble thanks to all of you who have participated and contributed to Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) For me it has proven to be one of the most illuminating and revealing discussions I have ever witnessed and is one of the primary reasons for my participation with Project Avalon. I have known for years that there was 'something more' than the few strategically placed kernels of truth that I have been spoon fed throughout my lifetime. I have also taken Jesus at his word and have held close to my heart his admonishment to 'Knock and the door shall be opened'. I believe that through this thread some of those 'doors have been opened'. I have not reached closure as of yet but have a renewed interest in the vital questions that have perplexed me over the years and I would guess, many others as well. A special thanks to you Abraxas, for your contribution with your deep incites and revelations. You have made my mind flip inside and out and twist over and upon itself, which I am afraid was sorely needed! I thank you and hold a deep gratitude to you for this and ask one additional question: Is it within your power to show us the process by which we may also, gain access to the Thubane Records? Peace to all of you! Last edited by bigmo; 02-11-2010 at 05:00 PM.

02-11-2010, 05:38 PM	#4
dddanieljjjamesss Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Beverly, MA Posts: 148	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) While I go back and read the other 43 pages of this thread (which may take some time!) Is there anyone that wouldn't mind giving a few important recaps? I know, just based on the first few pages, that may be a lot to ask... Feel free to message me or respond in thread.

02-11-2010, 06:04 PM	#5
hippihillbobbi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oak Ridge, Tennessee, USA Posts: 120	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) dddaniel -- it definitely would be worth your time and energy to reread this 43-page thread despite its intimidating length. i'm not sure there's any way exactly to just "hit the highlights," as the topics really do seem to run the gamut!! cosmology, spirituality, 2012, ascension, lots of advanced math (even though many of us have to skip alot of this part, i'm afraid). i guess pretty much any topic touched-on anywhere else on this forum MAY have been mentioned here as well .... or, if not, any are certainly "fair game." (though, if it's been covered before, Abraxas will sometimes refer you to this post or even resources outside PA & PC) Hope you Enjoy the Ride, dddaniel!!! hippihillbobbi

02-11-2010, 06:19 PM	#6
hippihillbobbi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oak Ridge, Tennessee, USA Posts: 120	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Abraxas -- do you feel like sharing anything about your various "aliases" (John, Hans, Abraxas...any more?) Sure hippihill! John Shadow is English for Hans Schatten as the same ID. This ID 'walked-in' for a previous ID TonyB. aka the owner of the website you found this material on. John Shadow aka Hans Schatten were 'walked-in' by Abraxas in so eliminating the 'channeling' of say 3rd order by a 2nd order closer to the source. So then does it correlate that Sirebard Beardris is a "walk-in" for Abraxas??? And, while we're on the subject, AA ..... what exactly IS a walk-in? I suppose it's different from channelling in that Tony-John/Hans-Abraxas are all conscious while the information is being communicated??? Thanks again, AA. hippihill

02-11-2010, 06:25 PM	#7
migp Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 30	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) Hi Abraxas, One question. What do you think about this video. Is it true? can it be harmful?. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRFC4vAR7yI Thank you,

02-12-2010, 05:37 AM	#9
rustanddust Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 187	Re: Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here) what was the price on her head ?