Who are you? What is your purpose?

Malletzky · 02-09-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by trainedobserver

With all repect to your understanding and feelings as well I'd just say the mental life you and I enjoy is an illusionary one. In particular the notion that human beings are somehow seperate from or above the natural world. We are not. We are hairy (some more than others) little mammals walking around on a rock hurtling through the void of space. Whatever purpose we fulfill the earth itself has determined it through its evolutionary system and it (our purpose) exists on a plain other than the mental one in which what we call our conciousness exists. I could be wrong of course and I realize many folks are hoping that I am.

I may be wrong and please correct me if so, but the above statement implies that the real purpose of our existence here is only determinated thru the earth itself. Do you really think that your true YOU decided on that higher mental plain, where our consciousness exist (btw, our consciousness exist on EACH imaginable plain), to be here and now just to deliver itself to the determination of other (in this case earth's consciousness as well as the human groupmind) ???

It is true that my I AM is connected with ALL that is, so also connected with the earth itself and it's wonderful nature...but I/WE choosed to be here and now for a purpose...for a much bigger purpose then just to assist this lovely planet to evolve to whatever it/he/she deserves.

We all have our hidden tallents which we will discover soon.

By the way, the one who hope that you might be wrong just makes them judgmental...I would rather wellcome your opinion and think about it---

with respect
malletzky

sjkted · 02-10-2010, 05:47 AM

I don't normally post on this topic because I figure it's none of anyone's business, but I will today for a few reasons. One, there are many starseeds on this board who are waking up to who they really are and where they came from. If enough of us who do know that post, it may motivate others to find out. Second, it's important for everyone to know that there really is more to it than the BS we're all living through on this planet. Last, my throat chakra is opening and I suspect the same is happening for many others. For those of us with a story to tell, the time is now because the world is getting ready to listen.

1. Indigo and Starseed. I'm not sure if there is a difference in these. Part of the mission of the Starseeds is to almost act as ambassadors because they came from a more expanded, uplifting place. It's not something you study towards or prepare for in an academic sense. It comes from a inclination that there is something more and then eventually discovering your roots through your spiritual path.

2. Andromeda

3. 5D or more. The reason I say "or more" is because I've experienced up to 5D and some levels of 6D (although I can't say 100%) and it appears we do exist on many of these levels, but often as fragments. For example, the higher self and soul are above 5D, but we're not always 100% integrated with them. When I was in 5D, there may have been additional dimensions I did integrate with 100% of the time, but I'm not sure I can sense/understand it from my current position.

4. My purpose here is to spread the word about freedom and liberty. It's nothing really fancy, and it's not something I preach about. It's more of something that others observe and can possibly learn about from observing me. In other words, I'm just being who I am and other people may learn by watching. As best as I can tell, this has always been my mission on this planet.

On one of my original lifetimes after the fall of Atlantis, I was in Mesopotamia (perhaps Babylon ?). I was an Arab, along with everyone else and we were all slaves. Everyone hated the establishment and the working conditions, but nobody would do anything about it. I decided to sing this song in front of everyone -- something to the order of I'm a free man, nobody can take it away from me. I do what I want... and refused to work. It had a really catchy tune and it inspired a movement so to speak. TPTB at the time really didn't care for my skit and showed their disagreement by mutilating my vocal cords so I couldn't speak. Speak I couldn't, but I was able to keep banging out that tune with my hands and feet on the floor. I made it clear to everyone that although my body could be constrained physically that I was always the one in charge of myself.

In another lifetime, I was a freedom fighter. I overthrew a tribe with some other men and became king of a tribe for a while. As I became the leader, I was corrupted by power and became much more interested in taking over other local tribes than delivering liberty to my people. If anyone has seen the movie Ashoka (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249371/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka_the_Great), the story line in this lifetime was remarkably similar, although perhaps without the cute warrior girl and a few other small differences.

Since then, I've learned quite well not to become a martyr and that violence doesn't solve anything even for a "good" cause.

--sjkted

trainedobserver · 02-10-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Malletzky

I may be wrong and please correct me if so, but the above statement implies that the real purpose of our existence here is only determinated thru the earth itself. Do you really think that your true YOU decided on that higher mental plain, ...

No. I don't think there is some higher self that thinks, makes decisions, and so forth. The brain/mind system of human beings does that. The natural evolutionary processes of the living system we know as The Earth has caused us to be formed in the manner we find ourselves in. Is there some "purpose" as human beings think of it? Probably not. The whole "purpose" thing is locked in the realm of the mind and probably has no correlation to things existing in the real world. But if we are created by the Earth for some purpose it would seem to be to take our DNA off the planet and into space since we are the only life form here capable of achieving space flight.

What is the purpose of the planet Mercury? Does it have one? Or does it exist simply because the laws of physics caused it to be formed? Human beings exist. Any "purpose" for the individual is self determined but is that self determined purpose "real"? Probably only in our minds.

Malletzky · 02-11-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by trainedobserver

No. I don't think there is some higher self that thinks, makes decisions, and so forth. The brain/mind system of human beings does that. The natural evolutionary processes of the living system we know as The Earth has caused us to be formed in the manner we find ourselves in. Is there some "purpose" as human beings think of it? Probably not. The whole "purpose" thing is locked in the realm of the mind and probably has no correlation to things existing in the real world. But if we are created by the Earth for some purpose it would seem to be to take our DNA off the planet and into space since we are the only life form here capable of achieving space flight.

What is the purpose of the planet Mercury? Does it have one? Or does it exist simply because the laws of physics caused it to be formed? Human beings exist. Any "purpose" for the individual is self determined but is that self determined purpose "real"? Probably only in our minds.

Trainedobserver...so it is your understaning that we as humans, with our 'perfect' inteligence and understanding of OUR and ALL existance, ARE the 'non plus ultra' in these vast universes and nothing, really nothing more could exist that would evtl. be more advanced that we are?

Sorry, this all remindes me of the darwinian postulates about the human 'evolution' as well as the standard laws of physic, which I both can't accept any more. Simply, there are so many implications that these theories just can't explain all that we can perceive in 'this 3D reality'.

The question about the "purpose"...well, just regarding the fact that I can 'think' with my mind, doesn't make me the creator of this realm. Nor my limited human mind is capable of anythig more then accepting this realm as it is. I can only suggest, to everyone interessted in some 'scientific' explanations of how our minds really works, to read some material of Karl Jung, "our friend" Sigmund Freud and also Daniel Goleman.

The question about the "purpose" is much more than that. It all starts in my 'conscious' mind.

Now, You just went phylosophical with the question about the purpose of Mercury...really, what is the purpose? Do WE know? NO, at least not with our conscious mind.

And the fact that the humans exist...well, let ME be phylosophical this time:

I must remind you of the very known words from Réne Descartes whith his known "Cogito, ergo sum" or "I think, therefore I am". Sounds fine...I AM.

...but do we have the answer to the question WHO I AM / AM I...? Does the earth with her 'evolutionary' cycles provides the real answers?...

Thanks anyway for your great contribution.

These kind of discussions alone is worth of being human and be here with you!

THANK YOU ALL FOR CONTRIBUTING! GREAT REPLIES SO FAR.

with respect
malletzky

02-10-2010, 05:47 AM	#2
sjkted Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: LA County Posts: 361	Re: Who are you? What is your purpose? I don't normally post on this topic because I figure it's none of anyone's business, but I will today for a few reasons. One, there are many starseeds on this board who are waking up to who they really are and where they came from. If enough of us who do know that post, it may motivate others to find out. Second, it's important for everyone to know that there really is more to it than the BS we're all living through on this planet. Last, my throat chakra is opening and I suspect the same is happening for many others. For those of us with a story to tell, the time is now because the world is getting ready to listen. 1. Indigo and Starseed. I'm not sure if there is a difference in these. Part of the mission of the Starseeds is to almost act as ambassadors because they came from a more expanded, uplifting place. It's not something you study towards or prepare for in an academic sense. It comes from a inclination that there is something more and then eventually discovering your roots through your spiritual path. 2. Andromeda 3. 5D or more. The reason I say "or more" is because I've experienced up to 5D and some levels of 6D (although I can't say 100%) and it appears we do exist on many of these levels, but often as fragments. For example, the higher self and soul are above 5D, but we're not always 100% integrated with them. When I was in 5D, there may have been additional dimensions I did integrate with 100% of the time, but I'm not sure I can sense/understand it from my current position. 4. My purpose here is to spread the word about freedom and liberty. It's nothing really fancy, and it's not something I preach about. It's more of something that others observe and can possibly learn about from observing me. In other words, I'm just being who I am and other people may learn by watching. As best as I can tell, this has always been my mission on this planet. On one of my original lifetimes after the fall of Atlantis, I was in Mesopotamia (perhaps Babylon ?). I was an Arab, along with everyone else and we were all slaves. Everyone hated the establishment and the working conditions, but nobody would do anything about it. I decided to sing this song in front of everyone -- something to the order of I'm a free man, nobody can take it away from me. I do what I want... and refused to work. It had a really catchy tune and it inspired a movement so to speak. TPTB at the time really didn't care for my skit and showed their disagreement by mutilating my vocal cords so I couldn't speak. Speak I couldn't, but I was able to keep banging out that tune with my hands and feet on the floor. I made it clear to everyone that although my body could be constrained physically that I was always the one in charge of myself. In another lifetime, I was a freedom fighter. I overthrew a tribe with some other men and became king of a tribe for a while. As I became the leader, I was corrupted by power and became much more interested in taking over other local tribes than delivering liberty to my people. If anyone has seen the movie Ashoka (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249371/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka_the_Great), the story line in this lifetime was remarkably similar, although perhaps without the cute warrior girl and a few other small differences. Since then, I've learned quite well not to become a martyr and that violence doesn't solve anything even for a "good" cause. --sjkted Last edited by sjkted; 02-10-2010 at 06:14 AM.