Bill Ryan's thread

rawtruth · 01-24-2010, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

2) My view remains firm that Clif High should not be investigating (and drawing conclusions from) Bill Deagle’s private finances with an intention to discredit him. And this IS his intention.

Um, sorry, Bill, you failed to answer the question. You accused Clif of hiring a Private Investigator and setting him on Bill Deagle. You claimed Clif admitted to doing this in an email to you. Clif has publicly and vehemently refuted your charge.

Your answer simply dodged the question.

Please answer it directly.

One would think a true gentleman would either provide proof of this email or else offer a public apology to Clif.

Kinsuemei2 · 01-24-2010, 08:28 PM

Cliff is a whiner plain and simple, and fails to acknowledge logic, and he is ultimate upset that PC got scoops that he can't due to his bad attitude, no nonsense is fine, but he takes it other levels, and no cliff is no gentleman!

Derek · 01-25-2010, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawtruth

Um, sorry, Bill, you failed to answer the question. You accused Clif of hiring a Private Investigator and setting him on Bill Deagle. You claimed Clif admitted to doing this in an email to you. Clif has publicly and vehemently refuted your charge.

Your answer simply dodged the question.

Please answer it directly.

One would think a true gentleman would either provide proof of this email or else offer a public apology to Clif.

Why create unnecessary negative energy like this? Both cliff high and project camelot have good information. Why do you feel like you have to take a side and attack the other? Be the change you want to see. Do you want unity and fellowship or do you want bickering and division?
Your obviously a fan of cliff high who came to this forum to attack bill ryan. Why don't you have a look around this site with an open mind and educate yourself.

mgray · 01-25-2010, 02:47 PM

I have an impression that Bill has not really been involved here or on PC for quite awhile.

The new radio show excludes him due to time differences and suffers because of it. The PC Web site has no input from him and this blog has had no response from Bill for three weeks or so.

I'm curious about this from the standpoint that Bill -- although often muzzled by Kerry's soliloquies -- often provided grounded queries and analysis to questionable witnesses.

I hope all is well in Switzerland.

aroundthetable · 01-25-2010, 03:11 PM

Hi Bill and Kerry, hope your both well.

Bill would you consider selling your hat? Perhaps an auction?!

norman · 01-26-2010, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgray

I have an impression that Bill has not really been involved here or on PC for quite awhile.

The new radio show excludes him due to time differences and suffers because of it. The PC Web site has no input from him and this blog has had no response from Bill for three weeks or so.

I'm curious about this from the standpoint that Bill -- although often muzzled by Kerry's soliloquies -- often provided grounded queries and analysis to questionable witnesses.

I hope all is well in Switzerland.

I'm sure Bill is either busy, ill in bed or reading a good book. I couldn't do a 10th of what he does and just feel glad everytime PC comes up with more riveting stuff from the freest thinkers and most captivated professionals on the planet. As he sayes, it can't ALL be true, and that's his greatest executive contribution to PC. A perfect counterbalance to Kerry's, which I think of as more of a visionary adventure and an 'additive' synthesis.

Carrie1971 · 01-26-2010, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by norman

I'm sure Bill is either busy, ill in bed or reading a good book. I couldn't do a 10th of what he does and just feel glad everytime PC comes up with more riveting stuff from the freest thinkers and most captivated professionals on the planet. As he sayes, it can't ALL be true, and that's his greatest executive contribution to PC. A perfect counterbalance to Kerry's, which I think of as more of a visionary adventure and an 'additive' synthesis.

I keep checking on here to see what if anything Bill has wrote.

I know it is easy to walk away from the computer when life needs to be lived.

I for one "and I am pulling a punch here I know" do not like the feel of all the "in fighting" be it the latest from the half past human web-bot guy (Cliff High) or any of the past "fights". How can we ever have PEACE and reach our true reason for being here now if all of the missunderstandings are NEVER cleared up. We cannot bomb our way to peace.

Message boards are NOT any better then the National Enquirer ......

The "taking it to the streets" down and low mean stuff is just so 2nd grade.

I hope to stop by here and feel some peace.

onawah · 01-29-2010, 04:52 AM

I just wanted to narrow down the part in Nassim Haramein's video for Bill, as it is 8 hours long in all, and though I wouldn't want anyone to miss a minute of it, the part about the celestial body (possibly Nibiru, that shuttled through our solar system without causing any damage, which no one can explain) can be narrowed down. (By the way, the sun blasting it threw it off course, but it still should have had an enormous impact on the solar system. This occurred in 2003, within 2 weeks of the time many had predicted Nibiru would return.)
The link for the talk by Nassim Haramein is at:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...75242307393956

At that link, click on the section marked 81:40, then slide the time to 1:19 (one hour and 19 minutes into the talk. watch that until the time hits 2 hours and 12 minutes. This will give a fairly full picture of what he has to say on this particular subject.
Also, there is a discussion about it here:
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2009/07/p...ibiru-has.html

Gnosis5 · 02-09-2010, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onawah

I just wanted to narrow down the part in Nassim Haramein's video for Bill, as it is 8 hours long in all, and though I wouldn't want anyone to miss a minute of it, the part about the celestial body (possibly Nibiru, that shuttled through our solar system without causing any damage, which no one can explain) can be narrowed down. (By the way, the sun blasting it threw it off course, but it still should have had an enormous impact on the solar system. This occurred in 2003, within 2 weeks of the time many had predicted Nibiru would return.)
The link for the talk by Nassim Haramein is at:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...75242307393956

At that link, click on the section marked 81:40, then slide the time to 1:19 (one hour and 19 minutes into the talk. watch that until the time hits 2 hours and 12 minutes. This will give a fairly full picture of what he has to say on this particular subject.
Also, there is a discussion about it here:
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2009/07/p...ibiru-has.html

It could simply be the result of some beings on this planet finally coming into their true powers and confident in accessing them, and where two or more are gathered....and as the good book says, we can move mountains

Jack · 02-19-2010, 10:12 PM

Hello Bill!

I just wanted to say thank you for the last video you posted. You really should do more of this kind of thing! Its really a talent that i feel project camelot has overlooked, you being in the forefront more often. You've an amazing knowledge base as well as a fantastic intelect and always seem to ask people the same questions that i would ask them myself.

So more from you please if you have time! If i have to fund you i'll do it!

Dominic · 02-20-2010, 10:32 AM

The presentation you did was absolutely stellar. This will ring around the world in ways that are unfathomable right now. Do some more vloging that is where the power lies. Their shields are buckling now lets hit them with everything we have got.

Your friend
Dominic

Ixopoborn · 02-21-2010, 10:40 AM

Dear Bill - I just wanted to underscore supportive comments of others in your approach to matters in general. You have assembled a very impressive wall of interviews through being careful and it is now more essential than ever that you continue with this strategy. All is at risk if you don't.

The business of attracting high quality whistleblowers must involve a certain degree of prior respect from them towards Camelot. In the early days, you had to earn this by repetitive measured approaches designed to build confidence before you could come close to agreeing a published interview. Now, things are a little easier in that regard probably a lot easier. I can well imagine that the flow of approaches from whistleblowers has increased a lot over the last 18 months. If so, this would explain a lot of the evident current tension between your and Kerry's judgement about what to do next. On the one hand, so many interviewing possibilities and on the other a reputation which could be trashed by as little as two bad interviews in sequence. On the one hand, the motive to "get the truth out there" as quickly as possible and on the other, a recognition that harmful forces may badly embarass you if you let down your guard.

I have to say that when I read the "Heather" document published on the Camelot site recently, I smelt a rat within a few paragraphs confirmed by a reading of the whole document. The essence of the account may be truthful but there is definately something wrong with its provenance.

Despite the problems, it is hugely evident that you and Kerry want the same thing - to play as active a part as possible to bring about important changes to the future of life on earth.

Kerry's energy and drive for the subject matter is to be admired. Your more careful assesments of whether or not to publish are essential.

panpravda · 02-21-2010, 11:49 AM

I too stand behind you Bill, and given the potential for confusion over the past days, I feel the need to state that in this thread.

The comments made by Ixopoborn are succinctly accurate, and I would underline that the need to maintain your own integrity and that of PC is paramount.

I would add that your personal safety and attacks on your reputation are real and growing areas of concern. You will be well aware of the tactics that TPTB can and do employ - a line of thought I was sadly reminded of while listening to David Icke being interviewed by Alex Jones on his latest talk show http://tinyurl.com/yc6b6hw

I also want to say that your own latest interview on the Anglo-Saxon Mission is superb. Thank you. I would expect much interesting fallout and commentary to be the result!

I also am well aware that this thread is specifically meant for questions to you, but I know you have quite a backlog to respond to, so I don't wish to add to your task right now.

Take care Bill ... and of course, you too Kerry

jcocks · 02-21-2010, 04:39 PM

First of all...
I've got to say that i've read the introduction you gave to the "anglo-saxan mission" material recently. It's all very interesting, but I'm not going to read the interview itself, because I refuse to accept it into my reality- I refuse to give it any further mental powoer at all... I believe David Wilcocks' description of "fear-porn" is more than apt in this regard. We don't need to fear or stop anything bad from happening. We ned to steer events in the right direction. We need to apply gentle force to change the direction of events. Negative energy is negative energy, even if it is attempted to be used for good.

This will not happen because it will not be ALLOWED to happen. There are 4 billion (approx) people on this planet for a reason! The killing of 2 billion (or more) -SOULS- would be a disaster on a truly intergalactic scale. It would quite possibly eclipse the loss of life that occurred during the time of Atlantis and Lemuria.

On another note, I just finished reading "childhood's end"... And I can't help but wonder if Arthur C Clarke did any time-travelling himself? Because I can't help but think that the times he is writing about in that book are *OUR CURRENT TIMES THAT WE ARE IN NOW*.... It hit me when he mentioned in the fisrt pages that there was "dance music blaring". Dance music didn't exist in 1953 :-) It does now... In fact, he does a fairly good job of describing our current society as it is tody in 2010. There is a part of me that doesn't believe that the book is *JUST* a work of fiction. After reading it all the way through, I think there may be more in it than that...

What are your views on the book?

Bill Ryan · 02-21-2010, 06:26 PM

Dear Friends,

Thanks for your very generous words. These are interesting times.

Since the startling and sudden removal of the ANGLO-SAXON MISSION video I've been sitting firmly on my hands, following my own advice to the Chinese military commanders not to be provoked into initiating WW III. The heavy irony is that there are some exact parallels here.

The video had received 25,000 YouTube hits (and 400 comments, almost all of them positive, intelligent and interesting) in 36 hours before it was taken down. I heard that the video has already been copied to DVD and handed to one US Congressman, a good man who will watch it carefully.

The translation team of 150 people (17 languages) are working on subtitles right now. They just need to be hosted somewhere where they will not be deleted.

Meanwhile, the original video is available as a torrent here:

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/Pr...on.mp4.torrent

...and can be streamed in full here (a Chinese site - a really delicious irony):

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTUzMDMzOTI4.html

Also meanwhile, John Lennon's IMAGINE is here on YouTube, with 6 million hits since May 2006.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw

Clearly no copyright issues there.

The video was not deleted with my knowledge or consent.

Best wishes to all - Bill

jaby · 02-21-2010, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Dear Friends,

Thanks for your very generous words. These are interesting times.

Since the startling and sudden removal of the ANGLO-SAXON MISSION video I've been sitting firmly on my hands, following my own advice to the Chinese military commanders not to be provoked into initiating WW III. The heavy irony is that there are some exact parallels here.

Hi Bill.....have you tried putting the video up without the music?

You could put the link to the Imagine video at the end and ask people
to go and listen to it...

It's chilling that the video was removed because it gives credence
to the material you presented.

If we are in for major earth/geological changes ...the last thing the
human race wants or needs is the orgy of evil and suffering that
war brings....

We don't want that anytime...but especially not now.

Patriarchal, tribal, military groups might like to consider 'changing their
spots'....for all of our sakes, including their own...

Cheers mate....

hobbit · 02-21-2010, 07:04 PM

The link to the video in projectcamelot is more akin to Chinese in My dyslexic eyes?????

The Terrorists( governance by intimidation) think themselves above and superior to We the people, they are not.
We the people need to govern ourselves, and will do.
Brilliant thoughts and conclusions, thank you.
Hobbit

Mystique · 02-21-2010, 08:29 PM

I have a question for Bill concerning the Galactic Federation of Light.

I have listened to many videos on you tube concerning channeled material from the GFL with names such as SaluSa. The message is of love, light, uplifting and encouraging. The messages speak of the demise of the TPTB and their ability to protect us and prevent nuclear holocaust.

Is this a Scientology presentation, a hoax.....
I know certain people supposedly channeled this information.

Bill, what do you know of this information, this group and the possibility of truth in their message? Hoping to hear your opinion.

Also, do you know of Christine Day and her book The Pleiadian Initiation of Light?

Thank you, Susan

Aztar · 02-22-2010, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

The translation team of 150 people (17 languages) are working on subtitles right now. They just need to be hosted somewhere where they will not be deleted.

Clearly no copyright issues there.

The video was not deleted with my knowledge or consent.

Best wishes to all - Bill

The Video is still on Youtube split up into 6 parts.
Its also in 6 parts on DiscloseTV.

Isn't Viral Video a wonderful thing

Anchor · 02-22-2010, 07:11 AM

Bill,

I finally found the time to watch the presentation and I am very impressed. This video will probably grab the attention of a few people that sorely need it grabbed!

I was significantly moved by the upbeat and positive conclusions you draw toward the end of the presentation - excellent job.

This really is down to us.

A..

lightblue · 02-22-2010, 08:45 AM

[B]bill,

might it be that kerry removed the video from playing through her youtube channel as she wants a separation of your/her domains? hard to believe, but possible....heather affair may have done more damage than we thought..
best wishes l[ /B]

Dear Bill
Please ignore my earlier question (above)..it was neither fair nor thoughtful of me..apologies.
best wishes l.

MaskMarvl · 02-22-2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightblue

[B]bill,

might it be that kerry removed the video from playing through her youtube channel as she wants a separation of your/her domains? hard to believe, but possible....heather affair may have done more damage than we thought..
best wishes l[ /B]

I'm pretty sure Kerry had nothing to do with the removal of Bill's video. It's a You-Tube thing. It happened to me when I tried to post a personal slideshow with a Bobby Darin track in the background. After uploading my slideshow, it was "deleted" because of the copyrighted music.

I suspect YouTube has some system in-place that scans new videos for copyrighted music. Obviously this is something fairly recent and that is why you can find OLD videos with copyrighted music.

I know you can find NEW videos with copyrighted music as well, but I suspect that this is because the "dection system" isn't perfect and also, there's a type of "waiver" document you can fill-out stating that you're not profiting from the music and, in most cases, YouTube will re-post the video. I myself did this and got my slideshow back online.

synaxis · 02-22-2010, 05:33 PM

Hi Bill,

I found your recent video & interview re: the Anglo-Saxon Mission very interesting. There is more that could be said about this ...

In case you are still answering questions on this thread, here are a couple I posted last month:

Question about White Hats - Jan 13, 2010

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=628

About Haiti earthquake - Jan 21, 2010

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=644

Thank you and very best wishes!

onawah · 02-23-2010, 10:46 AM

I would be very grateful if Bill would read the thread "Dr. Steven Greer--Disinfo Agent?"
I am one of many, I think, on this forum who would like to see some healing, resolution, reconciliation and better understanding between Greer and PC. There is also a question as to whether the porno page Greer allegedly published of himself was actually a psyops smear, and since Bill passed along the rumor that it was true, I think it would be a good thing if Bill could check his resources on that, since if that story gets further circulation, it could be potentially damaging to Greer's work, and also to PC for possibly spreading false rumors. A few forum members have indicated direct knowledge that the story was a hoax, and I think that is also worthy of further research.
The disastrous PC/Greer interview is obviously a thing of the past, but it really caused some serious shock waves in the Disclosure Movement, and it would certainly be great for everyone involved if there could be some healing of that fissure.
Who or what was to blame for that unfortunate interview is not the issue, but clarity and the establishment of more good will within the Disclosure Movement, is very important, (particularly for PC and Disclosure Project, Orion Project, and CSETI)
Relevant details are discussed at length in the thread mentioned, and reading it would hopefully help to focus on what could be done to accomplish the desired end.
Thanks and good luck!

jaby · 02-23-2010, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onawah

I would be very grateful if Bill would read the thread "Dr. Steven Greer--Disinfo Agent?"
I am one of many, I think, on this forum who would like to see some healing, resolution, reconciliation and better understanding between Greer and PC. There is also a question as to whether the porno page Greer allegedly published of himself was actually a psyops smear, and since Bill passed along the rumor that it was true, I think it would be a good thing if Bill could check his resources on that, since if that story gets further circulation, it could be potentially damaging to Greer's work, and also to PC for possibly spreading false rumors. A few forum members have indicated direct knowledge that the story was a hoax, and I think that is also worthy of further research.
The disastrous PC/Greer interview is obviously a thing of the past, but it really caused some serious shock waves in the Disclosure Movement, and it would certainly be great for everyone involved if there could be some healing of that fissure.
Who or what was to blame for that unfortunate interview is not the issue, but clarity and the establishment of more good will within the Disclosure Movement, is very important, (particularly for PC and Disclosure Project, Orion Project, and CSETI)
Relevant details are discussed at length in the thread mentioned, and reading it would hopefully help to focus on what could be done to accomplish the desired end.
Thanks and good luck!

I'll second that.

Project Camelot comes in for some heavy criticism and attack...'out there'
but IMO Steven Greer is the number one target for ridicule and attack.

No-one wants to get bogged down with the 'politics' of all this...but I
think that the disagreement between Bill + Kerry and Greer...has given
an opening for Greer to be treated with un-called for disrespect on this forum.

Which is not a good thing for the disclosure movement.

01-24-2010, 08:28 PM	#2
Kinsuemei2 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 97	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Cliff is a whiner plain and simple, and fails to acknowledge logic, and he is ultimate upset that PC got scoops that he can't due to his bad attitude, no nonsense is fine, but he takes it other levels, and no cliff is no gentleman!

01-25-2010, 02:47 PM	#4
mgray Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New York City Posts: 40	Re: Bill Ryan's thread I have an impression that Bill has not really been involved here or on PC for quite awhile. The new radio show excludes him due to time differences and suffers because of it. The PC Web site has no input from him and this blog has had no response from Bill for three weeks or so. I'm curious about this from the standpoint that Bill -- although often muzzled by Kerry's soliloquies -- often provided grounded queries and analysis to questionable witnesses. I hope all is well in Switzerland.

01-25-2010, 03:11 PM	#5
aroundthetable Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 410	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hi Bill and Kerry, hope your both well. Bill would you consider selling your hat? Perhaps an auction?!

01-29-2010, 04:52 AM	#8
onawah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 60	Re: Bill Ryan's thread I just wanted to narrow down the part in Nassim Haramein's video for Bill, as it is 8 hours long in all, and though I wouldn't want anyone to miss a minute of it, the part about the celestial body (possibly Nibiru, that shuttled through our solar system without causing any damage, which no one can explain) can be narrowed down. (By the way, the sun blasting it threw it off course, but it still should have had an enormous impact on the solar system. This occurred in 2003, within 2 weeks of the time many had predicted Nibiru would return.) The link for the talk by Nassim Haramein is at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...75242307393956 At that link, click on the section marked 81:40, then slide the time to 1:19 (one hour and 19 minutes into the talk. watch that until the time hits 2 hours and 12 minutes. This will give a fairly full picture of what he has to say on this particular subject. Also, there is a discussion about it here: http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2009/07/p...ibiru-has.html

02-19-2010, 10:12 PM	#10
Jack Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 454	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hello Bill! I just wanted to say thank you for the last video you posted. You really should do more of this kind of thing! Its really a talent that i feel project camelot has overlooked, you being in the forefront more often. You've an amazing knowledge base as well as a fantastic intelect and always seem to ask people the same questions that i would ask them myself. So more from you please if you have time! If i have to fund you i'll do it!

02-20-2010, 10:32 AM	#11
Dominic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Edgewood, Wa. Posts: 302	Anglo-Saxon Mission The presentation you did was absolutely stellar. This will ring around the world in ways that are unfathomable right now. Do some more vloging that is where the power lies. Their shields are buckling now lets hit them with everything we have got. Your friend Dominic

02-21-2010, 10:40 AM	#12
Ixopoborn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Harpenden, Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 8	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Dear Bill - I just wanted to underscore supportive comments of others in your approach to matters in general. You have assembled a very impressive wall of interviews through being careful and it is now more essential than ever that you continue with this strategy. All is at risk if you don't. The business of attracting high quality whistleblowers must involve a certain degree of prior respect from them towards Camelot. In the early days, you had to earn this by repetitive measured approaches designed to build confidence before you could come close to agreeing a published interview. Now, things are a little easier in that regard probably a lot easier. I can well imagine that the flow of approaches from whistleblowers has increased a lot over the last 18 months. If so, this would explain a lot of the evident current tension between your and Kerry's judgement about what to do next. On the one hand, so many interviewing possibilities and on the other a reputation which could be trashed by as little as two bad interviews in sequence. On the one hand, the motive to "get the truth out there" as quickly as possible and on the other, a recognition that harmful forces may badly embarass you if you let down your guard. I have to say that when I read the "Heather" document published on the Camelot site recently, I smelt a rat within a few paragraphs confirmed by a reading of the whole document. The essence of the account may be truthful but there is definately something wrong with its provenance. Despite the problems, it is hugely evident that you and Kerry want the same thing - to play as active a part as possible to bring about important changes to the future of life on earth. Kerry's energy and drive for the subject matter is to be admired. Your more careful assesments of whether or not to publish are essential.

02-21-2010, 11:49 AM	#13
panpravda Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Prestwick - Scotland Posts: 30	Re: Bill Ryan's thread I too stand behind you Bill, and given the potential for confusion over the past days, I feel the need to state that in this thread. The comments made by Ixopoborn are succinctly accurate, and I would underline that the need to maintain your own integrity and that of PC is paramount. I would add that your personal safety and attacks on your reputation are real and growing areas of concern. You will be well aware of the tactics that TPTB can and do employ - a line of thought I was sadly reminded of while listening to David Icke being interviewed by Alex Jones on his latest talk show http://tinyurl.com/yc6b6hw I also want to say that your own latest interview on the Anglo-Saxon Mission is superb. Thank you. I would expect much interesting fallout and commentary to be the result! I also am well aware that this thread is specifically meant for questions to you, but I know you have quite a backlog to respond to, so I don't wish to add to your task right now. Take care Bill ... and of course, you too Kerry

02-21-2010, 04:39 PM	#14
jcocks Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 27	Re: Bill Ryan's thread First of all... I've got to say that i've read the introduction you gave to the "anglo-saxan mission" material recently. It's all very interesting, but I'm not going to read the interview itself, because I refuse to accept it into my reality- I refuse to give it any further mental powoer at all... I believe David Wilcocks' description of "fear-porn" is more than apt in this regard. We don't need to fear or stop anything bad from happening. We ned to steer events in the right direction. We need to apply gentle force to change the direction of events. Negative energy is negative energy, even if it is attempted to be used for good. This will not happen because it will not be ALLOWED to happen. There are 4 billion (approx) people on this planet for a reason! The killing of 2 billion (or more) -SOULS- would be a disaster on a truly intergalactic scale. It would quite possibly eclipse the loss of life that occurred during the time of Atlantis and Lemuria. On another note, I just finished reading "childhood's end"... And I can't help but wonder if Arthur C Clarke did any time-travelling himself? Because I can't help but think that the times he is writing about in that book are OUR CURRENT TIMES THAT WE ARE IN NOW.... It hit me when he mentioned in the fisrt pages that there was "dance music blaring". Dance music didn't exist in 1953 :-) It does now... In fact, he does a fairly good job of describing our current society as it is tody in 2010. There is a part of me that doesn't believe that the book is JUST a work of fiction. After reading it all the way through, I think there may be more in it than that... What are your views on the book?

02-21-2010, 06:26 PM	#15
Bill Ryan Project Avalon Co Founder Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 353	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Dear Friends, Thanks for your very generous words. These are interesting times. Since the startling and sudden removal of the ANGLO-SAXON MISSION video I've been sitting firmly on my hands, following my own advice to the Chinese military commanders not to be provoked into initiating WW III. The heavy irony is that there are some exact parallels here. The video had received 25,000 YouTube hits (and 400 comments, almost all of them positive, intelligent and interesting) in 36 hours before it was taken down. I heard that the video has already been copied to DVD and handed to one US Congressman, a good man who will watch it carefully. The translation team of 150 people (17 languages) are working on subtitles right now. They just need to be hosted somewhere where they will not be deleted. Meanwhile, the original video is available as a torrent here: http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/Pr...on.mp4.torrent ...and can be streamed in full here (a Chinese site - a really delicious irony): http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTUzMDMzOTI4.html Also meanwhile, John Lennon's IMAGINE is here on YouTube, with 6 million hits since May 2006. http://youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw Clearly no copyright issues there. The video was not deleted with my knowledge or consent. Best wishes to all - Bill

02-21-2010, 07:04 PM	#17
hobbit Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 180	Re: Bill Ryan's thread The link to the video in projectcamelot is more akin to Chinese in My dyslexic eyes????? The Terrorists( governance by intimidation) think themselves above and superior to We the people, they are not. We the people need to govern ourselves, and will do. Brilliant thoughts and conclusions, thank you. Hobbit

02-21-2010, 08:29 PM	#18
Mystique Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 82	Re: Bill Ryan's thread I have a question for Bill concerning the Galactic Federation of Light. I have listened to many videos on you tube concerning channeled material from the GFL with names such as SaluSa. The message is of love, light, uplifting and encouraging. The messages speak of the demise of the TPTB and their ability to protect us and prevent nuclear holocaust. Is this a Scientology presentation, a hoax..... I know certain people supposedly channeled this information. Bill, what do you know of this information, this group and the possibility of truth in their message? Hoping to hear your opinion. Also, do you know of Christine Day and her book The Pleiadian Initiation of Light? Thank you, Susan

02-22-2010, 07:11 AM	#20
Anchor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2,280	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Bill, I finally found the time to watch the presentation and I am very impressed. This video will probably grab the attention of a few people that sorely need it grabbed! I was significantly moved by the upbeat and positive conclusions you draw toward the end of the presentation - excellent job. This really is down to us. A..

02-22-2010, 08:45 AM	#21
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: Bill Ryan's thread [B]bill, might it be that kerry removed the video from playing through her youtube channel as she wants a separation of your/her domains? hard to believe, but possible....heather affair may have done more damage than we thought.. best wishes l[ /B] Dear Bill Please ignore my earlier question (above)..it was neither fair nor thoughtful of me..apologies. best wishes l. Last edited by lightblue; 02-25-2010 at 03:47 PM.

02-22-2010, 05:33 PM	#23
synaxis Project Avalon Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hi Bill, I found your recent video & interview re: the Anglo-Saxon Mission very interesting. There is more that could be said about this ... In case you are still answering questions on this thread, here are a couple I posted last month: Question about White Hats - Jan 13, 2010 http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=628 About Haiti earthquake - Jan 21, 2010 http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=644 Thank you and very best wishes!

02-23-2010, 10:46 AM	#24
onawah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 60	Re: Bill Ryan's thread I would be very grateful if Bill would read the thread "Dr. Steven Greer--Disinfo Agent?" I am one of many, I think, on this forum who would like to see some healing, resolution, reconciliation and better understanding between Greer and PC. There is also a question as to whether the porno page Greer allegedly published of himself was actually a psyops smear, and since Bill passed along the rumor that it was true, I think it would be a good thing if Bill could check his resources on that, since if that story gets further circulation, it could be potentially damaging to Greer's work, and also to PC for possibly spreading false rumors. A few forum members have indicated direct knowledge that the story was a hoax, and I think that is also worthy of further research. The disastrous PC/Greer interview is obviously a thing of the past, but it really caused some serious shock waves in the Disclosure Movement, and it would certainly be great for everyone involved if there could be some healing of that fissure. Who or what was to blame for that unfortunate interview is not the issue, but clarity and the establishment of more good will within the Disclosure Movement, is very important, (particularly for PC and Disclosure Project, Orion Project, and CSETI) Relevant details are discussed at length in the thread mentioned, and reading it would hopefully help to focus on what could be done to accomplish the desired end. Thanks and good luck!