CLIFF HIGH taking a skeptical look at whistleblowers and questions camelot AGAIN!

[sjkted]

I see it that Cliff is a little imbalanced -- much too much so on the intellectual side and not so much so on the spiritual side. All in all, I value his writings as they are well thought out. You have to admit that without the spiritual angle, there really isn't much good news/information to look at. And that's not fear mongering, it's just based on real information.

--sjkted

[Zenbuoy]

Originally Posted by sjkted

I see it that Cliff is a little imbalanced -- much too much so on the intellectual side and not so much so on the spiritual side. All in all, I value his writings as they are well thought out. You have to admit that without the spiritual angle, there really isn't much good news/information to look at. And that's not fear mongering, it's just based on real information.
--sjkted

I agree with you about the intellectual side. He also is very much involved with the stuff below as I, too, have in my avatar name. This was sent to he and George after the "Time does not exist" piece.



These guys are brilliant. George even says Clif is a genius. High praise from a Goat Herder. THIS PIECE supports the Camelot Geryl Interview and they back things up with mathematics and ancient records.

The contrasting information by "a good guy" has alluded to a "one half of a walking pace" adjustment in plates while also mentioning solar issues. Haven't heard supporting data for the walking pace vs. a sudden jolting of things by Geryl. A coupla' days ago Dr. Bill began playing up Planet X (I kinda thought that was off the map...) but here we go again. Significant new INFO> independent of both.

I have no sides but truth. It's like a nut that takes continual cracking open.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

When I hear or read Clif's words they ring true to me, much more than many of the whistleblowers I have listened to and I say Thank you Clif, it needed to be said, and you said it beautifully.

I absolutely agree that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. I know some say listen with your heart or not from the intellect and I do agree that the spiritual realm is beyond the intellect. But we cannot blindly follow those who tell tall tales without any verification or proof of any kind.

We want the Truth so badly we are willing to give our Trust to people we don't even know, don't know their background, mental stability or financial state.

Still, if one is truly honest with themselves, and not on some ego trip claiming extraordinary powers of discernment, most humans do not have the ability to distinguish Truth from Falsehood, period, and that's a fact Jack.

I am happy to hear Clif have the stones to say it like it is and put some much needed reality back into the Truth movement. The days ahead will be inundated with falsehoods and downright lies from people who's agenda's are for their own, or tptb's, profit and fame, it would behoove all to heed this reminder to question and use healthy skepticism with all information.

I believe in humanity's heart, I believe our thirst for knowledge is the driving force behind the momentum of information coming out both true and false, and at the end of the day, when the dust settles, we as an evolving species will know who we are from deep within and we will never allow our species as a whole to forget again.

[Roman195]

Web Bot = Spy Bot in my opinion, a violation of my Free Will if there is something on my system that I don’t know about or authorized. I simply don’t want it there, period.
I’m having trouble understanding this “infinite now” principle. If that’s the way it is in this density/dimension then we would be frozen infinitely, the way I understand that concept. The Buddhists’ were asked what time travel was like and their reply is,” It’s like standing still, with time flowing all around you.” To myself, that means you had to leave space/time (the particle function) and enter time/space (the wave function). That puts the past, present and future for the observer to see without moving. Quantum Mechanics has theories that help understand this, like wave/particle duality and Quantum entanglement. Electrons do not always stay around the nucleus in their energy orbits. Where do they go? Well they switch from a particle function to a wave function and instantly appear in another atom maybe across the cosmos and then come back to that same original atom. Einstein use to call this “Spooky action at great distances.” This “infinite now” might have been what it was like before the “Big Bang” if you believe that theory, for there are others, one has a “Big Bounce”. So it would be advisable if you want to time travel to stay in one place because if you leave you might not get back to this exact density and time. If you can Quantum Entanglement your whole being then I would say the skies the limit.
In Peace and Unity,
Roman
PS: CH would make a good lawyer and spy, but not a good Natural Philosopher.

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by Roman195

Web Bot = Spy Bot in my opinion, a violation of my Free Will if there is something on my system that I don’t know about or authorized. I simply don’t want it there, period.
I’m having trouble understanding this “infinite now” principle.

My understanding is the way this works is that everything is happening right now, but we are limited to focusing on one part at a time. An analogy would be to have a book filled with information on a particular topic. You can only read one page at a time, one chapter after another. You may have all of the information at your fingertips, but you can only assimilate as fast as your eyes can move and your mind can process the details.

--sjkted

[Roman195]

Originally Posted by sjkted

My understanding is the way this works is that everything is happening right now, but we are limited to focusing on one part at a time. An analogy would be to have a book filled with information on a particular topic. You can only read one page at a time, one chapter after another. You may have all of the information at your fingertips, but you can only assimilate as fast as your eyes can move and your mind can process the details.

--sjkted

Appears to me that that this "infinte now" is someone who is stuck in the left brain (serial processor) and dosen't communicate knowingly with the right brain (quantum processor), if I understand the above properly.

Roman

[Operator]

Originally Posted by Roman195

Web Bot = Spy Bot in my opinion, a violation of my Free Will if there is something on my system that I don’t know about or authorized. I simply don’t want it there, period.

No one should deliberately break into computers that are attached to internet and although they are technically part of
internet you can properly firewall them off to become 'invisible' ...

Web bots however crawl the web .... this is a public area and there can be no violation since you put the information there on purpose
out of free will.

I posted about this sometime ago ... but ever wondered where all this free stuff is coming from ? Like free email, chat applications,
free voip (voice over IP), socialware, forums and ability to post reactions to online news articles ... ?

Lots of people seem to accept that this very expensive backbone infrastructure is there for free ...

There is a purpose and you and me sharing accessible information out of free will is one of them !

The PTB know very well what they are doing .... spying yes ... but they got you somehow to agree to it by accepting
either terms and conditions or just the plain fact that it is a public place.

[Zenbuoy]

Originally Posted by Operator

the plain fact that it is a public place.

Right on, O!

Wal-Mart, the US retailer taking over the world by stealth

..and ya' tell your friends and family about this right before their eyes and some say..."Yeah. So?"
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[Roman195]

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Web bots however crawl the web .... this is a public area and there can be no violation since you put the information there on purpose
out of free will.

The PTB know very well what they are doing .... spying yes ... but they got you somehow to agree to it by accepting
either terms and conditions or just the plain fact that it is a public place.[/QUOTE]

If I have to beef up my security just to keep these buggers out then I have to treat them as a virus , trojan, script...etc. These "public areas" are full of them. So how am I going to trust this data I acccumate? I can come up with predictions but these predictions can be model after what these "public areas" want you to believe. I wouldn't trust it like CH doesn't trust Dr. Deagle. I stay out of them because I search for truth. and have my sites that satisfy me after all I'm just a serial processor most of the time.

In Peace and Unity,
Viet Nam Vet Roman

[Stardustaquarion]

Originally Posted by Roman195

Web Bot = Spy Bot in my opinion, a violation of my Free Will if there is something on my system that I don’t know about or authorized. I simply don’t want it there, period.
I’m having trouble understanding this “infinite now” principle. If that’s the way it is in this density/dimension then we would be frozen infinitely, the way I understand that concept. The Buddhists’ were asked what time travel was like and their reply is,” It’s like standing still, with time flowing all around you.” To myself, that means you had to leave space/time (the particle function) and enter time/space (the wave function). That puts the past, present and future for the observer to see without moving. Quantum Mechanics has theories that help understand this, like wave/particle duality and Quantum entanglement. Electrons do not always stay around the nucleus in their energy orbits. Where do they go? Well they switch from a particle function to a wave function and instantly appear in another atom maybe across the cosmos and then come back to that same original atom. Einstein use to call this “Spooky action at great distances.” This “infinite now” might have been what it was like before the “Big Bang” if you believe that theory, for there are others, one has a “Big Bounce”. So it would be advisable if you want to time travel to stay in one place because if you leave you might not get back to this exact density and time. If you can Quantum Entanglement your whole being then I would say the skies the limit.
In Peace and Unity,
Roman
PS: CH would make a good lawyer and spy, but not a good Natural Philosopher.

In keylontic sciences this flashing in and out is called partiki phasing, the difference in the concept is that partikis are part of a bigger template which can be the morphogenetic field of a person, a plant, a world etc

The idea is that when partikis phase the go back to source to replenish themselves

The Tao teachings came from the original Cloister Dora Teura Plates that were given to humanity a long time ago

from the keylontic dictionary

(Also called Partiki Phasing Rhythms or Partiki Pulsation Rhythms- that is - rhythms of expansion and contraction of energy.)

Partiki Phasing is the process by which Partiki Units perpetually convert conscious energy into Bi-polar (Partika-Particum) Light Radiation Scalar-waves (expansion) and back into Omni-polar Sound Vibration Tri-tone (Partiki) Waves (contraction) is called Partiki Phasing.

Partiki Phasing is the process by which Partiki Units perpetually convert conscious energy into Bi-polar (Partika-Particum) Light Radiation Scalar-waves (expansion) and back into Omni-polar Sound Vibration Tri-tone (Partiki) Waves (contraction) is called Partiki Phasing.

Through perpetual cycles of Partiki Phasing, matter units "flash on" through fission, into Bi-polar Particle and Anti-particle manifestation build upon scalar-waves of Light Radiation, then "flash off" through fusion, into Omni-polar Ante-matter Sound Vibration, continually cycling energy between the manifest and non-manifest state.
unquote

http://www.keylonticdictionary.org
Cheers

[gibonos]

@Roman195

Sorry, hit return instead of shift.

good I thought you meant dirty dancing

The powers that be have tried to look at the future( it was assured them through “Looking Glass” maybe). Then the“looking glass’s” vision of the future started to change according to Dan B.. What could have happened? One thing, I suppose could have happened, Free Will! Here’s how I see it. Through the ages Free Will has been suppressed and the PTB choices were substituted for the Will of the people. It was easy to predict then, because their choices had the effect of Dogma (Am God said backwards). The new PTB seen a change in their master plan and verified through “Looking Glass” maybe. They started to panic.

whatever they have works always the same,
every time you look at the future you change it,
same with clif's reports, every time we or anybody else is reading the "future"
is changing attitude towards it and take action accordingly,
universe is much more powerful than looking glass or alta reports and will happen whatever is meant to happen, we have a choice though to alter the future,
but have to be aware of our thoughts first and focus on positive

I, for instance want the economic collapse to happen as quick as possible, I want earth changes to happen as quick as possible, cause I can't wait for what on the other side
of 2012, where I regard this date as a symbol not a date, because it can be tommorow, nobody knows.
Without a tragic, monumental events sheeple will not wake up... not gonna happen

gibonos

[cantaloupe]

B&K are what, three years in?
Their having failed to try to cross check witnesses who are in disagreement with each other, to make some qualitative judgements about what is credible and what is hooey really disturbs me. It's like a big and very weedy garden. I know we all have to discern for ourselves, but it's their stated mission to try to make some sense of this whole jumble and so far it's just all been wheeled out and dumped on the ground with some of the more plausible bits presented on the same level as bits of complete shillery hucksterism and self promotion.
Usually what passes for skepticism is the practice of setting out to discredit an idea and examining it with hostility. What Clif is talking about is entertaining an idea without full acceptance and then trying to poke holes in it. Very different.
If a whistleblower will no longer speak after a little cross referencing or fact checking or some other sort of call to account, then they don't deserve the attention
This is what Camelot so desperately needs. It's probably a tightrope walk, but it should be done- this stew is starting to stink.

[chitty]

Originally Posted by cantaloupe

B&K are what, three years in?
Their having failed to try to cross check witnesses who are in disagreement with each other, to make some qualitative judgements about what is credible and what is hooey really disturbs me. It's like a big and very weedy garden. I know we all have to discern for ourselves, but it's their stated mission to try to make some sense of this whole jumble and so far it's just all been wheeled out and dumped on the ground with some of the more plausible bits presented on the same level as bits of complete shillery hucksterism and self promotion.
Usually what passes for skepticism is the practice of setting out to discredit an idea and examining it with hostility. What Clif is talking about is entertaining an idea without full acceptance and then trying to poke holes in it. Very different.
If a whistleblower will no longer speak after a little cross referencing or fact checking or some other sort of call to account, then they don't deserve the attention
This is what Camelot so desperately needs. It's probably a tightrope walk, but it should be done- this stew is starting to stink.

I agree totally. I thank B&K for this site but I no longer access Camelot. Too much hooey to take seriously.