Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[UncleJohn]

I just want to say thank you to Abrax.

May you see God in everything.

May you hear inner music in your head all the time.

May your food always taste good.

May everyone that meets you smiles.

May you never stop posting on some forum somewhere where I can read.

[halebox]

Are you STS or STO or other?
Are the Thuban Council STS or STO or other?
If the unaltered bible writtings are assigned to the earth humans then do the Thuban have their own handbook they must follow?
Can you recommend the best way to get flouride etc free water? Or the cleanest store brand?
Does the council want to share our planet with us humans? Do they want this planet minus humans? If they want to occupy would they mind many et groups sharing earth?
Describe the Thuban spaceships.
Do the Thuban feed off our negative or lustful energy?
Does the dragon race appear as a typical dragon portrayed in out media?
Do you know of your next incarnation?
Will the money system collapse soon?

In the name of the One/Source would or have the Thuban Council lie to me or other humans?
Thanks

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by halebox

Are you STS or STO or other?
Are the Thuban Council STS or STO or other?
Both.
If the unaltered bible writtings are assigned to the earth humans then do the Thuban have their own handbook they must follow?
We wrote the original bible through our prophets and are retranslating it at present.
Can you recommend the best way to get flouride etc free water? Or the cleanest store brand?
Go to a waterfall or natural spring. Try to grow wheat where it has not been planted before; say in Central Australia.
Does the council want to share our planet with us humans? Do they want this planet minus humans? If they want to occupy would they mind many et groups sharing earth?
We want starhumans not humans.
Describe the Thuban spaceships.
There are many, the largest ones are so 2000 kilometers in length. They are described in Ezekiel and in Revelation in terms of measurements.
Do the Thuban feed off our negative or lustful energy?
We've got our own lustful energies, we dont require human suppression sexual energies.
Does the dragon race appear as a typical dragon portrayed in out media?
No, but the can shapeshift into many forms.
Do you know of your next incarnation?
Yes, starhuman dragonised.
Will the money system collapse soon?
That depends on the PTB playing their fiscal balancing games. The global fiscal system is 'broke' already with the Chinese playing the Euro against the Greenback. The PTB are trying to hang on until 2012 and as long as they can. They do not wish the civil unrests just yet.

In the name of the One/Source would or have the Thuban Council lie to me or other humans?
No.
Thanks

Your welcome!
AA

[Initiate]

exchange "big enough to take the world and all it's got" for "big enough to take the universe and all its got" and there you have it. Earth... the cosmic cook pot. The dream to blend many universal species into one so that we as star seeds can traverse the universe freely since we found it so hard to incarnate from one life in say "Lyra" to the next life time in say the "Alpha Draconis" system. Whilst our incarnation path was chosen to go there to experience the fullness of creation and the spectrum of embodiment.

Surely a balanced outcome is desirable for all star systems in the resulting Star Human. Why does the "Thubin Council" seek to direct the outcome for personal gain? Should not all systems be involved? The time for being lead by external forces is surely over and the time for divine direction from within with the aid of the universal councillor is upon us.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Initiate

exchange "big enough to take the world and all it's got" for "big enough to take the universe and all its got" and there you have it. Earth... the cosmic cook pot. The dream to blend many universal species into one so that we as star seeds can traverse the universe freely since we found it so hard to incarnate from one life in say "Lyra" to the next life time in say the "Alpha Draconis" system. Whilst our incarnation path was chosen to go there to experience the fullness of creation and the spectrum of embodiment.

Surely a balanced outcome is desirable for all star systems in the resulting Star Human. Why does the "Thubin Council" seek to direct the outcome for personal gain? Should not all systems be involved? The time for being lead by external forces is surely over and the time for divine direction from within with the aid of the universal councillor is upon us.

Where does the 'personal gain' enter the equations?
The 'divine intervention' from within might be the mirror effect the Thuban Council is presiding over from without.
Apart from this; your comprehension is excellent.

AA

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Where does the 'personal gain' enter the equations?
The 'divine intervention' from within might be the mirror effect the Thuban Council is presiding over from without.
Apart from this; your comprehension is excellent.

AA

Is not the thubin council trapped in the Astral or by attachment to incarnates? If this is not the case where does the council reside? Is not the aim to create a story which fits the result that has desired outcome of gaining form along with the rest of us? Whilst the incarnate soul is aiming to recover connection to spirit. the Astrals seek to recover form. Maybe my understanding is wrong. Please offer your understanding if so.

Thanks,

A

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Initiate

Is not the thubin council trapped in the Astral or by attachment to incarnates?
We are not trapped in anything we are outside the material universe - in the Void!

If this is not the case where does the council reside?
In the Void, also being Eternity of not yet defined (geometrical) context and structure.

Is not the aim to create a story which fits the result that has desired outcome of gaining form along with the rest of us? Whilst the incarnate soul is aiming to recover connection to spirit.
The incarnate soul could not exist without connection to spirit.

The Astrals seek to recover form. Maybe my understanding is wrong. Please offer your understanding if so.
The Astral has a higher density of form in terms of vibration. This renders the 'materiality' of the astral as 'less dense' in terms of the particularisation of its wavenature.
So when you say the astral seeks reformation you are implying redensification in dimensional reduction.
This is the conundrum of the present situation.
The astral form is unable to redensify, except in biological incarnation engaging the DNA/RNA templates of the pentagonal symmetry.
Following the 'opening' of the 4th spacial dimension, this densification will allow to proceed with already existing 3-dimensional incarnates interacting and exchanging those DNA/RNA templates with the 'astral' dimensions.
The appearance of UFO phenomena are cross-sections of this 'astral hyperspace' in the 3D-4D interface of the 4th spacial dimension not yet opened except in quantum terms.

This in physical terms becomes the 'reactivation' of dormant junk-intron genetomic selfexpression.

Thanks,

A

Good Night

AA

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Good Night

AA

Thanks. not time for sleep yet though.

did you once have form inside the creation? how did you get outside the creation if so? Form is what I refer to as an entities embodiment in the creation. Why did you choose to attach your self to Tony as opposed to taking form of your own to reveal your message?

Thanks

A

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Initiate

Thanks. not time for sleep yet though.

did you once have form inside the creation? how did you get outside the creation if so? Form is what I refer to as an entities embodiment in the creation. Why did you choose to attach your self to Tony as opposed to taking form of your own to reveal your message?

Thanks

A

Hi Initiate!

This is a good question. How does one get 'outside' of the creation?

The answer is simple, yet profound.
Should you consider the 'creation' as a spacetime construct, that is some 'place' experienced at some 'time' by something you might term 'self-conscious' or 'self-unconscious'; then the answer must relate to find the 'space' and 'time' of creation, when there was no creation.

So then this nospace and notime also must be considered in their nature and/or nonmanifestation.

Say you create a fantasy creature like a Unicorn with seven horns, instead of one.
You IMAGINE this unicorn in RELATING your earlier experiences in your thoughtforms. You know what a unicorn supposed to look like from say a fairy tale book; you colour it white and place a horn (say akin that of a narwhale) upon it and then IMAGINE the superpositioning of six other say smaller horns protruding around the bigger horn from the horse-like Unicornian head.

Ok, I am sure you could do that.
But now imagine yourself of never having seen a horse and the colour white or a narwhale and the label of 'unicorn' is meaningless to you because of your LACK OF REFERENCE FRAME.

So you cannot create your sevenhorned unicorn for lack of background data.

This scenario then describes the Thuban presence in the 12th dimension.
The 12th dimension can only BE the 12th dimension, because the lower dimensions 1-11 exist.
So the 12D is REFERENCE FRAME for the lowerD in terms of spacetime construction.

Then reducing the cosmogony even further will allow you to reach the point where the 1st dimension does not yet exist.

So what is 'before' 1D - 0D!
But 0D as a mathematical point also is descriptive of InfiniteD in the VOID becoming so defined as the INVERSE of ETERNITY.
This Reciprocoity is akin the primordial polarity of something opposite yet unifiable.
This is high school algebra and group theory in the Identity parameters for addition and multiplication.

A+(-A)=0 {say 2-2=0} for addition and Ax1/A=1 {say 2x1/2=1} for multiplication.

Your question about FORM so derives from this also - the mathematical archetypical superstructure is IMMANENT or INTRINSIC to the Emergence of FORM.

So why can the Thuban Council BE 'outside' creation?
They are situated in the VOID=ETERNITY AS the prespacetime mode of creation.
They so are able to MAP the VOID=INFINITY of nospacetime onto the material creation as a 12D Reference Frame, so allowing the 11-dimensional universe to draw upon and utilize the Thubanese definition and creaton processes.

If one works for 24 hours answering questions and all during the night; it is not unreasonable to say 'Good Night' at local noontime.

You have asked an intelligent and pertinent question Initiate and the Thuban Council extends its gratitude to you for asking it.

AA

[Sollve]

Abrax,

I get the feeling that you are amused with the outcome of this thread. I can see you smile when we try with all of our hearts to understand the message you are trying to deliver. Each and every time there is a straight forward question you make an evasive manouver leaving many of us as big glowing question marks.

So, why is this?

My guess is that you are very bitter about the outcome of your life. You have been hurt deeply along the way and I'm not meaning physically. You have a very big heart and this is also in your reality your biggest weakness. You have learned the hard way and you have found your solution in reading and digesting cosmology and other things to substitute your (by you) percieved weakness to a degree where you have identified yourself with your teachings, never ever showing your 'weak spot', your heart.

I want you to know that if you want to heal and become whole again I'm here for you and I'm certain there are a whole bunch of other loving people here aswell that is willing to help you along. There is no weakness in opening ones heart and this is the place to do it. Take small steps and I promise you that the rewards will be endless.

You are like a wing broken bird, now accustomed to a life on the ground. You have forgotten about your wings and keep them tightly tucked away in a place were they don't get in your way, and you wonder why this world is so hostile. Know your broken heart and this will allow it to heal. Make it a part of you again and it will also be part of our perception of you, and that's who you truly are.

Don't be afraid, we will take care of you, help you and we will love you. You are amongst hearts, just were you belong.

With eternal love,
Sollve

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Sollve

Abrax,

I get the feeling that you are amused with the outcome of this thread. I can see you smile when we try with all of our hearts to understand the message you are trying to deliver. Each and every time there is a straight forward question you make an evasive manouver leaving many of us as big glowing question marks.

So, why is this?

Your feelings are your own dear Sollve.
Why should I be amused? Amused by what?
Your presumption of me attaining amusement in your perception of my evasiveness bespeaks more of your judgements, than my platform of relationship and interaction.

And who is this WE you are writing about? Have you becoe a spokesperson for THEM?

My evasive manouvers, what and where are they? Generalisations are insufficient to crystallize points of divergence or misunderstandings.

My guess is that you are very bitter about the outcome of your life. You have been hurt deeply along the way and I'm not meaning physically. You have a very big heart and this is also in your reality your biggest weakness.

What a decisive and accurate assessment of my cosmically embittered, multidimensionally hurtful, interdimensional nonphysicality and 3D fullhearted but weakened personality Sollve.
Have you ever thought of training to become a psychoanalyst?


You have learned the hard way and you have found your solution in reading and digesting cosmology and other things to substitute your (by you) percieved weakness to a degree where you have identified yourself with your teachings, never ever showing your 'weak spot', your heart.

Yes indeed, I have lied to myself all my life in my hard labours to hide my weaknesses in my deluded selfdeceptions.

I want you to know that if you want to heal and become whole again I'm here for you and I'm certain there are a whole bunch of other loving people here aswell that is willing to help you along. There is no weakness in opening ones heart and this is the place to do it. Take small steps and I promise you that the rewards will be endless.

You be the judge, assessor and psychoanalyst for that Sollve.
Indeed I have encountered the all embracing loving natures of many here on this forum. Love abounds, just as long the 'bad ones' go away.

You are like a wing broken bird, now accustomed to a life on the ground. You have forgotten about your wings and keep them tightly tucked away in a place were they don't get in your way, and you wonder why this world is so hostile. Know your broken heart and this will allow it to heal. Make it a part of you again and it will also be part of our perception of you, and that's who you truly are.

Have I ever called this world hostile? Mirror mirror on the wall!
I am a dragon; I have wings dear Sollve.
Indeed my DragonHeart is broken, like Sean Connery's in DragonHeart.
I think and feel I know who I truly am dear Sollve.


Don't be afraid, we will take care of you, help you and we will love you. You are amongst hearts, just were you belong.

I am afriad of nothing except the 'sky falling on my head' as Asterix the Gaul would say in the comic books.
Thank you very much for caring for me Sollve! Caring for others takes care of oneself, does it not?

With eternal love,
Sollve

I reciprocate your eternal love Sollve!

AA

[Sollve]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sollve
Abrax,

I get the feeling that you are amused with the outcome of this thread. I can see you smile when we try with all of our hearts to understand the message you are trying to deliver. Each and every time there is a straight forward question you make an evasive manouver leaving many of us as big glowing question marks.

So, why is this?

Your feelings are your own dear Sollve.
Why should I be amused? Amused by what?
Your presumption of me attaining amusement in your perception of my evasiveness bespeaks more of your judgements, than my platform of relationship and interaction.

And who is this WE you are writing about? Have you becoe a spokesperson for THEM?

Aren't you, me, them, us and we just me in the mirror according to your teachings? Anyway, for clarification purposes replace above with I. I have no problems with that.

My evasive manouvers, what and where are they? Generalisations are insufficient to crystallize points of divergence or misunderstandings.

Well... The grass can sometimes be green as well.

My guess is that you are very bitter about the outcome of your life. You have been hurt deeply along the way and I'm not meaning physically. You have a very big heart and this is also in your reality your biggest weakness.

What a decisive and accurate assessment of my cosmically embittered, multidimensionally hurtful, interdimensional nonphysicality and 3D fullhearted but weakened personality Sollve.

My humble thanks! It's always nice to hear when I'm spot on!

Have you ever thought of training to become a psychoanalyst?

Hmm, maybe I should. The Thubans might need one? Can I use you as a reference?

You have learned the hard way and you have found your solution in reading and digesting cosmology and other things to substitute your (by you) percieved weakness to a degree where you have identified yourself with your teachings, never ever showing your 'weak spot', your heart.

Yes indeed, I have lied to myself all my life in my hard labours to hide my weaknesses in my deluded selfdeceptions.

As above so below...

I want you to know that if you want to heal and become whole again I'm here for you and I'm certain there are a whole bunch of other loving people here aswell that is willing to help you along. There is no weakness in opening ones heart and this is the place to do it. Take small steps and I promise you that the rewards will be endless.

You be the judge, assessor and psychoanalyst for that Sollve.
Indeed I have encountered the all embracing loving natures of many here on this forum. Love abounds, just as long the 'bad ones' go away.

As I stated above, I welcome you regardless if you percieve yourself as good or bad. You are me, and I'm not percieving me as bad.

You are like a wing broken bird, now accustomed to a life on the ground. You have forgotten about your wings and keep them tightly tucked away in a place were they don't get in your way, and you wonder why this world is so hostile. Know your broken heart and this will allow it to heal. Make it a part of you again and it will also be part of our perception of you, and that's who you truly are.

Have I ever called this world hostile? Mirror mirror on the wall!
I am a dragon; I have wings dear Sollve.
Indeed my DragonHeart is broken, like Sean Connery's in DragonHeart.
I think and feel I know who I truly am dear Sollve.

My world can surely be hostile at times. I often challenge my own world and the challenge itslef can sometimes be percieved as hostile, even if it's my choosing. It's to understand it is my choosing that helps me develop.

Don't be afraid, we will take care of you, help you and we will love you. You are amongst hearts, just were you belong.

I am afriad of nothing except the 'sky falling on my head' as Asterix the Gaul would say in the comic books.
Thank you very much for caring for me Sollve! Caring for others takes care of oneself, does it not?

I'll catch that sky for you Abraxa. No worries!

With eternal love,
Sollve

I reciprocate your eternal love Sollve!

AA
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I Am One in Many and I Am Many in One!

AA

See ya!
Sollve

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[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Sollve

See ya!
Sollve

-> -> -> -> ->

Images are Images and Mirrors reflect the Images.

As long the Mirror of Illusions withstands the Invisible Images; the Illusions remain.

When the Mirror of the Illusions is shattered, then the Invisible Images become visible and are as One with the Images seen.

The unbroken Mirror remains as a Separator of the Onenesses in the external reflections; though the internal reflections are unified always.
AA

[Sollve]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Images are Images and Mirrors reflect the Images.

As long the Mirror of Illusions withstands the Invisible Images; the Illusions remain.

When the Mirror of the Illusions is shattered, then the Invisible Images become visible and are as One with the Images seen.

The unbroken Mirror remains as a Separator of the Onenesses in the external reflections; though the internal reflections are unified always.
AA

These cute little images in post #861 were just a reflection of my own inner journey. Nothing more, nothing less.

Peace, love and understanding Abraxa,
Sollve

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Hi Initiate!

This is a good question. How does one get 'outside' of the creation?

The answer is simple, yet profound.
Should you consider the 'creation' as a spacetime construct, that is some 'place' experienced at some 'time' by something you might term 'self-conscious' or 'self-unconscious'; then the answer must relate to find the 'space' and 'time' of creation, when there was no creation.

So then this nospace and notime also must be considered in their nature and/or nonmanifestation.

Say you create a fantasy creature like a Unicorn with seven horns, instead of one.
You IMAGINE this unicorn in RELATING your earlier experiences in your thoughtforms. You know what a unicorn supposed to look like from say a fairy tale book; you colour it white and place a horn (say akin that of a narwhale) upon it and then IMAGINE the superpositioning of six other say smaller horns protruding around the bigger horn from the horse-like Unicornian head.

Ok, I am sure you could do that.
But now imagine yourself of never having seen a horse and the colour white or a narwhale and the label of 'unicorn' is meaningless to you because of your LACK OF REFERENCE FRAME.

So you cannot create your sevenhorned unicorn for lack of background data.

This scenario then describes the Thuban presence in the 12th dimension.
The 12th dimension can only BE the 12th dimension, because the lower dimensions 1-11 exist.
So the 12D is REFERENCE FRAME for the lowerD in terms of spacetime construction.

Then reducing the cosmogony even further will allow you to reach the point where the 1st dimension does not yet exist.

So what is 'before' 1D - 0D!
But 0D as a mathematical point also is descriptive of InfiniteD in the VOID becoming so defined as the INVERSE of ETERNITY.
This Reciprocoity is akin the primordial polarity of something opposite yet unifiable.
This is high school algebra and group theory in the Identity parameters for addition and multiplication.

A+(-A)=0 {say 2-2=0} for addition and Ax1/A=1 {say 2x1/2=1} for multiplication.

Your question about FORM so derives from this also - the mathematical archetypical superstructure is IMMANENT or INTRINSIC to the Emergence of FORM.

So why can the Thuban Council BE 'outside' creation?
They are situated in the VOID=ETERNITY AS the prespacetime mode of creation.
They so are able to MAP the VOID=INFINITY of nospacetime onto the material creation as a 12D Reference Frame, so allowing the 11-dimensional universe to draw upon and utilize the Thubanese definition and creaton processes.

If one works for 24 hours answering questions and all during the night; it is not unreasonable to say 'Good Night' at local noontime.

You have asked an intelligent and pertinent question Initiate and the Thuban Council extends its gratitude to you for asking it.

AA

Thanks abraxas for your answers. I thought you were asking me to take a sleep. I know you work long hours in your service.

I am still struggling with the coucil existing outside of creation in the void.

If I assume:

all of creation = 1
the void = 0
0/infinity = 0
1/infinity ~ 0 but <> 0

how can something exist in nothing?

Is it not more of the case that the Council exist in what they as yet have not defined? Even though it is not defined it is still something?

Regards,

Initiate

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Initiate

Thanks abraxas for your answers. I thought you were asking me to take a sleep. I know you work long hours in your service.

I am still struggling with the coucil existing outside of creation in the void.

If I assume:

all of creation = 1
the void = 0
0/infinity = 0
1/infinity ~ 0 but <> 0

how can something exist in nothing?

Knowing a little mathematics, envisage an expanding series of the form: 0/1+1/2+2/3+3/4+...+n/(n+1)+...99999/1000000+...always getting bigger as a fraction or a decimal but never actually reaching the limit of 1/1=1.
This way, the Mirror of the Infinity in 0/0=∞/∞=1, because 0=0 and ∞=∞ to define the inversion of 1/1=1 in the undefinability of 1/0≡∞ ↔ ∞.0≡1 and limited in the mathematical symbolisation in the physicalisations of limits in 1/∞→0 and 1/0→∞ as the reciprocities of each other by 0/1≡0 and ∞/1≡∞.

All of Creation = 1
The Void = 0
The Eternity = 1/0=Infinity meaning that 0xInfinity=1! (not in the physicalised limit but by definition)


Is it not more of the case that the Council exist in what they as yet have not defined? Even though it is not defined it is still something?

Ok, here it goes.
YOU right now are residing in the 12th dimension, not the 15th or the 33rd or the 57th, but the 12th.
YOU also find yourself in the 3rd dimension of linear cycles of beginnings and endings, such as birth and death.

YOU in the 12D are a timetavelled or FUTURE SELF of what you now experience as your 3D cosmic ID.

The Council of Thuban is right inside of you as this 'higher D' selfhood of yourself.
As this Council of Thuban YOU are in the VOID of NoSpace and NoTime. You DO not so exist in time, except in a cosmic NOW moment, defined in wormhole instantenuity.

As the VOID is also ETERNITY by definition of the above, you CAN in fact EXPERIENCE Yourself from the Thuban perspective in that timelessness.

It is from this timelessness that the Thubanese archetypes stem and that this thread here has become implemented.
The Thuban agenda is and was manifested BY YOU from your Future-Self perspective.

So now you may perceive what the naysayers here are up against - themselves in the 3D of the NOW and themselves as their own future selves.

Anyway, the (Data of the) VOID of 12D is MAPPED onto the 11D FINITE Outside Mirror of the Universe and reflects via its FINITE Inside Mirror (its a doublesided surface or manifold) into the 10D Universe of the InSpace and InTime Cosmologies.

This then defines how the ExtraET Information enters the spacetimed universe of universe-galaxies.

This timeline of the 5 Mayan longcounts of almost 26,000 years so simply defines the programmed (by the 12D of the Logos) 'turning inside-out' of the 11D mirror to render the twosidedness as onesided. This must so DOUBLE the 'Surface Area' (which is like a Volume in the language of a Riemann Hypersphere) of the HigherD Universe - say in adding the inside of your ring to the outside of your ring.


Regards,

Initiate

AA

[Reunite]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Good Night

AA

That's funny, I live not far from you and it's the middle of the day here in OZ

[Phtha]

Perhaps Dragons sleep during the diurnal period.

I have a question about anomalies I've been seeing in clouds these last few years.
Very often I look up and see clouds filled with very light hues such as greens, pinks, and blues when the Sun hits them at certain times... they almost look like plasma clouds. I've always enjoyed looking at clouds so I'm pretty sure I would have noticed this before if it was happening. Any ideas what the cause is? Is the Sun giving off different sort of Rayes lately?

I have pictures I can upload later if needed.

Originally Posted by Reunite

That's funny, I live not far from you and it's the middle of the day here in OZ

[Seafury]

Interrupting the off-topic and slightly pretentious game of Pictionary for a moment.

Clearly many of the members around here feel strongly about MCEO teachings. My queston is of a practical nature.

What do you make of the practical exercises, visualizatons, meditations and energy work that is put forth by MCEO. Do you see a benefit or is there the possibility that it is detrimental in any way?

Would you say that the Maharic Shield exercise is healthy or not healthy from an energy body perspective? Is it truly creating protection or is it doing the opposite? Is protection of this kind necessary or is it suggested with an agenda?

Thanks. This thread is super annoying, but I'm not done with it yet.

PS. I would like the OP's opinion on this. I don't want some random person telling me to look inside for the truth. I don't want someone who's clearly on the MCEO bandwagon answering either. I asked Abraxasinas the question for a reason.

[UncleJohn]

Originally Posted by Seafury

Thanks. This thread is super annoying, but I'm not done with it yet.

PS. I would like the OP's opinion on this. I don't want some random person telling me to look inside for the truth. I don't want someone who's clearly on the MCEO bandwagon answering either. I asked Abraxasinas the question for a reason.

yes, super annoying, yes. Welcome to band wagon.

At least I'm enjoying the ride.

[realitycorrodes]

Greetings Abraxasinas,

I am interested in releasing happy hormones continuously from my body in order to be in a permanent state of bliss. Do you have any suggestions of how to practically acheive this?

The aim being I wish to maintain a continuous state of bliss that is not dependent on anything outside of me i.e. it is completley generated from within me by me.

I would prefer suggestions that don't involve external drugs, however if there are any secret combinations of herbs that can do this I am open to hear about it...but only after hearing about other techniques as mentioned above....that's if you know? And preferably if they are a take once only... after which the drug should leave me permanently in bliss without any further need of them forever.

Also I am interested in any secret techniques that allow a human being to become a breatharian. Do you have any suggestions for this?

Sorry if these questions have been asked before!

I only read the beginning message about after the 18 January 2010 there may be information given out that has hitherto never been given out.

Never know unless you ask.

[kriya]

Originally Posted by realitycorrodes

Greetings Abraxasinas,

I am interested in releasing happy hormones continuously from my body in order to be in a permanent state of bliss. Do you have any suggestions of how to practically acheive this?

The aim being I wish to maintain a continuous state of bliss that is not dependent on anything outside of me i.e. it is completley generated from within me by me.

I would prefer suggestions that don't involve external drugs, however if there are any secret combinations of herbs that can do this I am open to hear about it...but only after hearing about other techniques as mentioned above....that's if you know? And preferably if they are a take once only... after which the drug should leave me permanently in bliss without any further need of them forever.

Also I am interested in any secret techniques that allow a human being to become a breatharian. Do you have any suggestions for this?

Sorry if these questions have been asked before!

I only read the beginning message about after the 18 January 2010 there may be information given out that has hitherto never been given out.

Never know unless you ask.

Sorry for hijacking this thread for a moment, but Realitycorrodes, I am interested in your signature. Is it refering to the yogic technique of stopping the breath in order to achieve cosmic consciousness? And therefore dying before you die

Thanks,

Kriya

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by realitycorrodes

Greetings Abraxasinas,

I am interested in releasing happy hormones continuously from my body in order to be in a permanent state of bliss. Do you have any suggestions of how to practically acheive this?

What a thought dear realitycorrodes. Being able to induce the autonomous nervous system and circulatory regulation systems in such a manner would accelerate the humanoid biochemical interaction with its psychophysicality in a most dramatic manner.
Perhaps you may attempt to attain the Nirvana of the buddha to enter such a blissful state.


The aim being I wish to maintain a continuous state of bliss that is not dependent on anything outside of me i.e. it is completley generated from within me by me.

Well you have been in such a state so 19.11 billion years ago. But then you were totally alone and nothing existed, except you. So you did decide to sacrifice your eternal blissfulness for a kaleidoscope of environmental interactions in your separated selfhood. And so you entered space and time from the 12th dimension and now you are here.
Then to reattain your lonely blissful selfstate as a 'alone no longer' blissful selfstate, you have set yourself the task to understand your own predicament.
How can I be just me, the Individual RealityCorrodes, and yet to BE more than this Individual say as a Family of RealityCorrodes?
And so you find yourself on a journey to REdiscover yourself AFTER you did so in your loneliness.


I would prefer suggestions that don't involve external drugs, however if there are any secret combinations of herbs that can do this I am open to hear about it...but only after hearing about other techniques as mentioned above....that's if you know? And preferably if they are a take once only... after which the drug should leave me permanently in bliss without any further need of them forever.

Stay away from drugs, any drugs (this is not an order, but advice), except say alcohol in moderation; as this is good for the blood (again in moderation), especially in cold weather.
That said, Nature is filled with drugs, natural drugs so you can drug yourself as you like - in Nature's way.
Reason for this is that the drugs of nature are chirally neutral with components balancing themselves in clockwise and anticlockwise quantum spin.
For example it is well known, that the Sugars in the DNA/RNA are righthanded in complementing the lefthanded amino acids.
The drugs you are talking about have become distorted in this quantum spin neutrality due to their processing and synthezising methods.

Also I am interested in any secret techniques that allow a human being to become a breatharian. Do you have any suggestions for this?

As long as you inhabit a biochemical reactor, called your body; you should treat this body as a temple for your higher self or soul or similar labeling.
This body of yours is designed to process nutrients in input-output functionality. It is not designed to NOT intake nourishment in solid and liquid and gaseous form
These are THREE phases: Solid-Liquid-Gaseous.

To deny the solid and liquid phases to concentrate on the gaseous nourishment state is highly disharmonious.
Of course it is advisable to regularly 'cleanse' the biochemical reactor in 'fasting' and 'bathing' and 'washing'.
It is entirely appropriate to restrict what kinds of food you allow as input and all manner of 'lifestyle choices' can be made and which are in harmony with the biochemical reactor.


Sorry if these questions have been asked before!

I only read the beginning message about after the 18 January 2010 there may be information given out that has hitherto never been given out.

Never know unless you ask.

You are welcome RealityCorrodes. If these replies are insufficient to you, you are welcome to ask for clarifications.

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Seafury

Interrupting the off-topic and slightly pretentious game of Pictionary for a moment.

Clearly many of the members around here feel strongly about MCEO teachings. My queston is of a practical nature.

What do you make of the practical exercises, visualizatons, meditations and energy work that is put forth by MCEO. Do you see a benefit or is there the possibility that it is detrimental in any way?

Would you say that the Maharic Shield exercise is healthy or not healthy from an energy body perspective? Is it truly creating protection or is it doing the opposite? Is protection of this kind necessary or is it suggested with an agenda?

Thanks. This thread is super annoying, but I'm not done with it yet.

PS. I would like the OP's opinion on this. I don't want some random person telling me to look inside for the truth. I don't want someone who's clearly on the MCEO bandwagon answering either. I asked Abraxasinas the question for a reason.

I have made my position regarding the azurite material rather clear and have given references not only to the Drunvalo Melchizedek connection , but also the easily discerned critique from independent (stated as excult members in the maar article) sources found on the web.

It is not in my interest to discuss this material in terms of the 'techniques' applied, except in saying that the Thubanese protocol converges to the Drunvalo paradigm in utilising the harmonious Fibonacci mechanisms.
If the azurite material is meaningful to you it will not harm you in the 'long run' even if the Drunvalo critique of 'wrongness' of it applies to such application.

Follow your inner guidance and allow your journey to unfold in the manner it feels comfortable to you.
The Thuban Council has analysed the azurite material and has drawn its conclusion relative to its own understandings. It is a potpourri of earlier data given to the human evolvement and has attempted to retranslate this more ancient information in the labelings of a more 'modern science'.
Relative to the Thuban Council, the agenda of this platform is well intended, but as is most often the case, the marketing, promotional and fiscal considerations have assumed a 'life of their own' and the earlier agenda has transformed into a particular Dawkinsian MemeComplex.

This Memecomplex is highly polarised in a say 'fear versus love' agenda and so is unsuitable to be incorporated in the platform of Thuban.

If this understanding does not resonate with you, you are free to ignore this analysis and form your own judgements as to the appropriateness and validity of the Thubanese evaluations.

In particular:
What do you make of the practical exercises, visualizatons, meditations and energy work that is put forth by MCEO. Do you see a benefit or is there the possibility that it is detrimental in any way?

Yes, I do see benefit, even great benefit in exercises such as these.
However there is no requirement to visit workshops or seminars.
If you decide to sit under the old oaken tree (if you be so lucky to have thus) in your back yard and meditate on the nature of your environment: feel the energy of the tree, touch the tree, talk to the tree to access its large information base of spacial consciousness; then your Merkabah will activate and your requirement for protective shields will dissipate.

Yet, if you prefer to follow an instruction manual in a likeminded group, this also will activate your merkabah and so on - BUT in a form of group-mindedness and not in your one-to-one attunement with the natural elements.

The method is in the individual choices and is not found in ANY manual of 'how to connect to yourself' methodology.
This is the Thuban perspective; you are free to dismiss this perspective and to follow your choosings.

The Thuban children talk to the ants and in mind synchronization they 'become the ants', able to communicate with them as kindred souls.
The Thuban children do not sit in class rooms to learn about their 'inner selves' - rather they experience themselves as parts of their environments in the search for interaction with the elements and all lifeforms encountered.



Would you say that the Maharic Shield exercise is healthy or not healthy from an energy body perspective? Is it truly creating protection or is it doing the opposite? Is protection of this kind necessary or is it suggested with an agenda?

My answer to this should be selfevident. A fear-based galactic civilization requires shieldings of many kinds; a truly advanced galactic civilization has evolved past such necessitations.


Thank you for your query.

AA

[Seafury]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

I have made my position regarding the azurite material rather clear and have given references not only to the Drunvalo Melchizedek connection , but also the easily discerned critique from independent (stated as excult members in the maar article) sources found on the web.

It is not in my interest to discuss this material in terms of the 'techniques' applied, except in saying that the Thubanese protocol converges to the Drunvalo paradigm in utilising the harmonious Fibonacci mechanisms.
If the azurite material is meaningful to you it will not harm you in the 'long run' even if the Drunvalo critique of 'wrongness' of it applies to such application.

Follow your inner guidance and allow your journey to unfold in the manner it feels comfortable to you.
The Thuban Council has analysed the azurite material and has drawn its conclusion relative to its own understandings. It is a potpourri of earlier data given to the human evolvement and has attempted to retranslate this more ancient information in the labelings of a more 'modern science'.
Relative to the Thuban Council, the agenda of this platform is well intended, but as is most often the case, the marketing, promotional and fiscal considerations have assumed a 'life of their own' and the earlier agenda has transformed into a particular Dawkinsian MemeComplex.

This Memecomplex is highly polarised in a say 'fear versus love' agenda and so is unsuitable to be incorporated in the platform of Thuban.

If this understanding does not resonate with you, you are free to ignore this analysis and form your own judgements as to the appropriateness and validity of the Thubanese evaluations.

In particular:
What do you make of the practical exercises, visualizatons, meditations and energy work that is put forth by MCEO. Do you see a benefit or is there the possibility that it is detrimental in any way?

Yes, I do see benefit, even great benefit in exercises such as these.
However there is no requirement to visit workshops or seminars.
If you decide to sit under the old oaken tree (if you be so lucky to have thus) in your back yard and meditate on the nature of your environment: feel the energy of the tree, touch the tree, talk to the tree to access its large information base of spacial consciousness; then your Merkabah will activate and your requirement for protective shields will dissipate.

Yet, if you prefer to follow an instruction manual in a likeminded group, this also will activate your merkabah and so on - BUT in a form of group-mindedness and not in your one-to-one attunement with the natural elements.

The method is in the individual choices and is not found in ANY manual of 'how to connect to yourself' methodology.
This is the Thuban perspective; you are free to dismiss this perspective and to follow your choosings.

The Thuban children talk to the ants and in mind synchronization they 'become the ants', able to communicate with them as kindred souls.
The Thuban children do not sit in class rooms to learn about their 'inner selves' - rather they experience themselves as parts of their environments in the search for interaction with the elements and all lifeforms encountered.



Would you say that the Maharic Shield exercise is healthy or not healthy from an energy body perspective? Is it truly creating protection or is it doing the opposite? Is protection of this kind necessary or is it suggested with an agenda?

My answer to this should be selfevident. A fear-based galactic civilization requires shieldings of many kinds; a truly advanced galactic civilization has evolved past such necessitations.


Thank you for your query.

AA

Alright, that seals it. I've had enough sources show me MCEO is full of it, and all for the same reasons.

Thanks.