The Bible and the Evil God: Lies, deception & brainwashing

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

While I remain open minded and willing to review any evidence presented to me I have come to realize practically nothing is what it at first claims to be and great caution must be taken when accessing the veracity of any claim.

spirituality is big business


so it is better to be sound sceptic

then to fall for every new tinsel trick


there are a thousand fakes for every genuine

to spot the real from the rest is the trick


the real does not put up a show or a stand

wants no money and gives no publicity


the fakes make bucks from peoples spiritual hunger

the real does not sell for it cannot be bought


real spirituality is incorruptible

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Padre Pio is a well known fraud:
The founder of Rome's Catholic university hospital concluded Padre Pio was "an ignorant and self-mutilating psychopath who exploited people's credulity". The Vatican, deeply suspicious, banned him from saying Mass in public.
nzhearld.co.nz 2002

again it is sound to be sceptic


but do not so easily brush something off

because of another man's view of the matter


research several sources and rely not on one only

besides in the very next paragraph from your quote the article says

Later, when John Paul II was auxiliary bishop of Cracow, he asked the monk to pray for a female friend who had throat cancer. The woman, Wanda Polawska, was declared "inexplicably" cured 11 days later and was in Rome yesterday for the canonisation ceremony.

[trainedobserver]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

...
the real does not put up a show or a stand
wants no money and gives no publicity
the fakes make bucks from peoples spiritual hunger
the real does not sell for it cannot be bought
real spirituality is incorruptible

Just because someone doesn't take money (or claims that they do not) isn't a sure sign of being genuine. Far from it.

Look, Padre Pio and his ilk are confidence men. If you want to believe in them you are doing so at your own peril. Promoting them as genuine is absolutely irresponsible in my humble opinion. You should know better.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

Look, Padre Pio and his ilk are confidence men. If you want to believe in them you are doing so at your own peril. Promoting them as genuine is absolutely irresponsible in my humble opinion. You should know better.

Oh no promo here

Im just refuting your fraud quote which you found in an article

about this well known miracle man


you do not bother to do a minimum of research on the subject

because you have already made up your mind


Please refrain from putting people you know nothing about in a bad light

[trainedobserver]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

you do not bother to do a minimum of research on the subject
because you have already made up your mind

I already knew about his well known fraud before you mentioned him.