the standard phases of "waking up"

[Doncel]

I am not sure when the books where published (I listen to the podcasts), but I am sure the books where there as from early 2006.

[izz]

in the strictist definition only an AVATAR would be awake ie someone who is a master of matter and energy...

you just mean someone who has woken up to conspiracy theories not to the reality of consciousness which is very very different and requires .. balance personally in the mental . emotional , physical fields and also being able to create situatons and control energy

[Doncel]

Originally Posted by izz

you just mean someone who has woken up to conspiracy

Of course I am talking about waking up from the illu(light)si(spirit of)on most of us call reality.

WHAT ELSE?

[Doncel]

in-formation is neutral. The truth is in the middle.

First it was:

I BEE, now it is I AM.

What is Hinduism?
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...of+the+new+age
(of course one might think this one to be a Christian propaganda fear creating documentary and I cannot deny, but in '84 I was still a kid and I recognize almost all of the terms discussed. Interesting.)

[izz]

Originally Posted by Doncel

Of course I am talking about waking up from the illu(light)si(spirit of)on most of us call reality.

WHAT ELSE?

i think it is a word that alot of people interpret in different ways .. if you go to the icke forums they are always talking about how ' awake ' they are .. but they mean .. awake to conspiracies and suddenly awakening to the fact they have been conned by the power mongers ..

[Doncel]

Originally Posted by izz

i think it is a word that alot of people interpret in different ways .. if you go to the icke forums they are always talking about how ' awake ' they are .. but they mean .. awake to conspiracies and suddenly awakening to the fact they have been conned by the power mongers ..

I agree with you saying that "a lot of people interpret in different ways", sure and I respect that as long as no one pushes, which this article may be touched by it, it is more in a cynical way - considering the fear this guy has for the controllable mass - to what is happening to average people allround the (western) world. Now to just put Alan Watts work next to Icke's seems to me very far fetched where I can assure you that Watt never speaks about this so called reptilians.
It's mostly about the stuff that you and I can lookup very easy.

My personal view is about people. Just as they stand before me I'll be loving or I walk. And if you experience joy and love with what you do I am happy for you, sincerely.

[Wildfire]

Dounel forgive if name wrong eating dinner!

i agree i am loving or i walk. i tell my clients thats what their legs are for

[2012survivor]

I think it's the first step: the awakenning. The truth of our reality, then comes the enlightment, again with observing, studying and meditating data.

[gazbom]

Originally Posted by Doncel

I am not sure when the books where published (I listen to the podcasts), but I am sure the books where there as from early 2006.

Wow Doncel, that's heavy stuff!
But it makes perfect sense and it's always the needy that are left needing!