The Good, The Bad & The Banned

Stargazer1965 · 01-03-2010, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mkspllmn

I would advocate posting the banned members and the offending posts.

For one thing it would show transparency which is a good thing.

For another it would reduce confusion.

Also it would serve as further deterrent to future disruptors.

I find the entire subject most fascinating. This kind of social interaction of antagonists in society. Banning people is kind of like putting them in jail (remove them from society so that others can enjoy tranquility). It is a topic that has permeated society from antiquity. I think it has a solution, however. Maybe I will start a thread about it now that Karen has shown me how.

Thanks Karen!

Yeah...why don't we hang their Avatars on a cross when you first log in as a warning to all......

UncleJohn · 01-03-2010, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Yeah...why don't we hang their Avatars on a cross when you first log in as a warning to all......

This joke makes me laugh.

Excellent.

"Only love can fill"

TheObserver · 01-03-2010, 02:43 AM

This is off this thread's subject matter (or is it?) but what happened to the Avalon Lounge thread?

Ammit · 01-03-2010, 02:47 AM

umm, Not gonna say what I think as this may get me banned too, but come on folks, Lighten up for gods sake.....

mkspllmn · 01-03-2010, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammit

umm, Not gonna say what I think as this may get me banned too, but come on folks, Lighten up for gods sake.....

I think that is one thing that the moderators don't want is for the people to feel as if they are being controlled by fear.

Ammit · 01-03-2010, 03:09 AM

I dont fear getting banned, more a full stop of being able to chat to those I actually hold dear to me now. Dont ever missguide fear for friendship.

Harry_CDN · 01-03-2010, 03:15 AM

Hello,

I'm new here. Based on everything read, what about moving the poster and comments to a special catagory called the "war zone". There is where things can be discussed in the open.

mkspllmn · 01-03-2010, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry_CDN

Hello,

I'm new here. Based on everything read, what about moving the poster and comments to a special catagory called the "war zone". There is where things can be discussed in the open.

Welcome Harry!

Sure.......this is where we put all the dirty people representing the dark side of humanity.

Harry_CDN · 01-03-2010, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mkspllmn

Welcome Harry!

Sure.......this is where we put all the dirty people representing the dark side of humanity.

and then let them go for it.

Zenbuoy · 02-17-2010, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry_CDN

and then let them go for it.

Well, that was the idea in this forum created by someone who was banned here.
He then started taking Prisoners after attacking them personally.

There is a always a history, unlearned, by members of a forum.

Point being: once someone is rude there is a highly probable chance they will be rude again for their service to self agenda.

It won't change.

TRANCOSO · 02-17-2010, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenbuoy

Well, that was the idea in this forum created by someone who was banned here.
He then started taking Prisoners after attacking them personally.

There is a always a history, unlearned, by members of a forum.

Point being: once someone is rude there is a highly probable chance they will be rude again for their service to self agenda.

It won't change.

Why are you using Size 4 & 5 for this 'statement', Zenbuoy? In my experience the louder you get, the less people tend to listen to what you've got to say.
Size matters, but not in this case.

Zenbuoy · 02-17-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

Why are you using Size 4 & 5 for this 'statement', Zenbuoy? In my experience the louder you get, the less people tend to listen to what you've got to say.
Size matters, but not in this case.

sorry, what?

Anchor · 02-17-2010, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenbuoy

sorry, what?

Please do me and the people who have to read this a favor and stop using the big fonts. Thanks.

A..

Anchor · 02-17-2010, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

Why are you using Size 4 & 5 for this 'statement', Zenbuoy? In my experience the louder you get, the less people tend to listen to what you've got to say.
Size matters, but not in this case.

He isn't any more

A..

TRANCOSO · 02-17-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anchor

He isn't any more

A..

mkspllmn · 01-03-2010, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Yeah...why don't we hang their Avatars on a cross when you first log in as a warning to all......

Very funny!.........

Still laughing.

Magamud · 01-03-2010, 03:34 AM

I think in some sense what we should all know, is very simple. Lets just say understanding is a "singularity" of simplicity. When we communicate, it can Transmute this frequency into another composition all together. In most arguments i see the frame of view of mind believes finding or controlling a detail will synthesize an equation. In most cases this is very far from the truth, it will not result in the emotional visceral "knowing" it will cause the mind to continue to split, divide and try to conquer much like our physicist of today trying to get to the smallest particle. If the mind gets caught in this finding it will create division/drama to generate enough energy to seem like "knowing". In fact it is causing radiation to expel any natural nature to come through.......

mkspllmn · 01-03-2010, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Magamud

I think in some sense what we should all know, is very simple. Lets just say understanding is a "singularity" of simplicity. When we communicate, it can Transmute this frequency into another composition all together. In most arguments i see the frame of view of mind believes finding or controlling a detail will synthesize an equation. In most cases this is very far from the truth, it will not result in the emotional visceral "knowing" it will cause the mind to continue to split, divide and try to conquer much like our physicist of today trying to get to the smallest particle. If the mind gets caught in this finding it will create division/drama to generate enough energy to seem like "knowing". In fact it is causing radiation to expel any natural nature to come through.......

I think I know what you mean.

We want to be right so badly that any opposing view will cause us to go into defend mode.

Hence a fight ensues.

Am I close?

Malletzky · 01-03-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mkspllmn

I think I know what you mean.

We want to be right so badly that any opposing view will cause us to go into defend mode.

Hence a fight ensues.

Am I close?

I would say, you're pretty close. The only thing to do when we feel we've been opposed is to stepp back...turn the pc off...come back after few hours and read the whole thread again.

This requires that we should be ballanced, nonjudgemntal, free of any inner struggles to feel right even when we're not.

But who's perfect???

with regards
malletzky

TRANCOSO · 01-03-2010, 10:01 PM

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Great just what we need, people like WS and all his cronies coming back. If you can't follow the rules then you can't post here. It's that simple. End of the argument.

A clear & ferm statement, Joe2288. Unfortunately it hasn't got anything to do with the topic of this thread, but thanx anyway.

morguana · 01-03-2010, 09:09 AM

I liked p4blo too and was sorry that his continued pushing of bounderies led to his ban. But since then there have been several new members banned and from what I can see the process of asking them to edit there own posts, warnings etc was upheld. If someone chooses to continue to break the rules then the outcome is also that persons choice.
This last month has been a mad one for us on Avalon, we are doing our best to moderate as fairly as poss, not always easy when there are so many new names to get to know.
M x

Carol · 01-03-2010, 01:59 PM

Lots of folks have off days and off moments which they later regret. There are lessons to be learned when this happens and consequences to be paid. However permanent bans are harsh. If a member who was banned for the first offense is forgiven, and upon return the behavior that led to the ban is repeated, it is understandable that the second ban should remain ~ because continued infractions represent a pattern of dysfunctional behavior not yet understood by the person acting out. It is only fitting that the second consequence be a permanent ban.

The issue is this... some people enjoy acting out and get their kicks out of creating strife. If they aren't stirring things up they're not having fun. This is not that type of forum. Avalon is for those who are seeking to take responsibility for theirs and others lives and how to survive earth changes. This is what the ground crew is about. Seeking knowledge and building communities to hang in there as long as we can. If others want to fart around they can do it elsewhere.

eaglespirit · 01-03-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol

Avalon is for those who are seeking to take responsibility for theirs and others lives and how to survive earth changes. This is what the ground crew is about. Seeking knowledge and building communities to hang in there as long as we can. If others want to fart around they can do it elsewhere.

And So It IS!!! Ascension 2010!

Kinda like the BIG picture from the 'bottom up' !

WE are energizing a selfless entrainment around Mother Earth as never before...lessons will need to be learned at an increasingly rapid pace...and the doers of non-ethical deeds(if they keep it up) are going to be extricated elsewhere by their very own actions mirrored instantaneously 'right back at them' very, very soon....as in NOW!

TRANCOSO · 01-03-2010, 09:33 PM

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I said what I wrote. I said they should not have to justify (and since you seem to ask, I suppose they don't have to either).

I don't really see this as a problem. But then I don't try to make out Avalon as some kind of utopian model of freedom of expression either. Project Avalon and Project Camelot each have a purpose. Its a place to talk about ideas with two broad foci.

My personal interest is in Project Avalon because its purpose is aligned with my own goals - the flowering of consciousness and the ascension of those who wish to ascend along with the planet. I have a particular interest in the readiness angle - because it is assumed by some, including myself, that this process will be "fetched with some inconvenience"[1].

A..

Justification is not the issue here.
It's about transparancy & the ability to see who is why banned from the forum, & for how long.

joe2288 · 01-03-2010, 09:43 PM

Great just what we need, people like WS and all his cronies coming back. If you

can't follow the rules then you can't post here. It's that simple. End of the

argument.

01-03-2010, 02:43 AM	#3
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned This is off this thread's subject matter (or is it?) but what happened to the Avalon Lounge thread?

01-03-2010, 02:47 AM	#4
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned umm, Not gonna say what I think as this may get me banned too, but come on folks, Lighten up for gods sake.....

01-03-2010, 03:09 AM	#6
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned I dont fear getting banned, more a full stop of being able to chat to those I actually hold dear to me now. Dont ever missguide fear for friendship.

01-03-2010, 03:15 AM	#7
Harry_CDN Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 52	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned Hello, I'm new here. Based on everything read, what about moving the poster and comments to a special catagory called the "war zone". There is where things can be discussed in the open.

01-03-2010, 03:34 AM	#17
Magamud Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 288	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned I think in some sense what we should all know, is very simple. Lets just say understanding is a "singularity" of simplicity. When we communicate, it can Transmute this frequency into another composition all together. In most arguments i see the frame of view of mind believes finding or controlling a detail will synthesize an equation. In most cases this is very far from the truth, it will not result in the emotional visceral "knowing" it will cause the mind to continue to split, divide and try to conquer much like our physicist of today trying to get to the smallest particle. If the mind gets caught in this finding it will create division/drama to generate enough energy to seem like "knowing". In fact it is causing radiation to expel any natural nature to come through.......

01-03-2010, 09:09 AM	#21
morguana Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: sussex, uk Posts: 1,137	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned I liked p4blo too and was sorry that his continued pushing of bounderies led to his ban. But since then there have been several new members banned and from what I can see the process of asking them to edit there own posts, warnings etc was upheld. If someone chooses to continue to break the rules then the outcome is also that persons choice. This last month has been a mad one for us on Avalon, we are doing our best to moderate as fairly as poss, not always easy when there are so many new names to get to know. M x __________________ better than a thousand hollow words is one word that brings peace the way is not in the sky, the way is in the heart forum guidlines Avalon Chat

01-03-2010, 01:59 PM	#22
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned Lots of folks have off days and off moments which they later regret. There are lessons to be learned when this happens and consequences to be paid. However permanent bans are harsh. If a member who was banned for the first offense is forgiven, and upon return the behavior that led to the ban is repeated, it is understandable that the second ban should remain ~ because continued infractions represent a pattern of dysfunctional behavior not yet understood by the person acting out. It is only fitting that the second consequence be a permanent ban. The issue is this... some people enjoy acting out and get their kicks out of creating strife. If they aren't stirring things up they're not having fun. This is not that type of forum. Avalon is for those who are seeking to take responsibility for theirs and others lives and how to survive earth changes. This is what the ground crew is about. Seeking knowledge and building communities to hang in there as long as we can. If others want to fart around they can do it elsewhere. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198 Last edited by Carol; 01-03-2010 at 02:04 PM.

01-03-2010, 09:43 PM	#25
joe2288 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Illinois USA Posts: 652	Re: The Good, The Bad & The Banned Great just what we need, people like WS and all his cronies coming back. If you can't follow the rules then you can't post here. It's that simple. End of the argument.