"Conspicary Theory" with Jesse Ventura

[nameless]

Originally Posted by gscraig

Hello All,

You have to consistently hold in perspective, what is being accomplished here via this show. It is a show that directly raise questions with the answers being linked to deliberate actions of our military, government, intelligence agency against it's own people. In order for this show to stay afloat, and even exist, it would have to integrate some level of colorful dramatizations or "theory" propaganda. Otherwise, you would have a mainstream show/personality telling people specifically with evidence; "Your government is lie, your military is a lie, you are being brainwashed/mind controlled and you have to take action". Are you serious? Unfortunately, it cannot happen that way.

Appreciate the show for platform it is being presented upon and the material allowed for penetration and contemplation.

Those who are most asleep, will continue to snore, but those few whom are on the edge of discovery, will be pushed over the edge. That is a good thing.

What we have then is debate.

Do we think this programme does more harm than good?

The argument "for" is that in a main stream pop way, this programme brings to the mediocre tv viewer certain opinions and ideas that aren't seen in the mainstream.

The argument "against" is that it belittles important views that need to be brought out into the open prudently (and have been made better by other people) instead creating this conspiracy "Porn".

What we fail to realise is that some of these issues are "real" and happening now but we a distanced from them like some true life hollywod movie, this is how we are controlled through tv. Imagine if ventura did a programme about Rape. Would they still us the same flashy camera movements? Well people died in 911. The ventura prgrmmae looks the same as any trashy expose programme and will be dismissed by the people who really matter whos paradigm is worth changing ie. the people in power, the teachers, the educators, the bank managers, the university lecturers, the cops etc..

In my opinion, what we have here is a media trick which is very dangerous that people need to be made aware of, wether it has been done conciously or unconciously is debateable. To the educated viewer who is a little clued up on this stuff, you think, ok this ventura programe is saying stuff i know and is getting it out to others who may not know or are not interested in this stuff. But what you fail to realise is the context around this programming, how its shot and how its perceived, the adverts inbetween , where it falls in the schedule. There is a current insidiuous trend in media distortion and control which is happening under our noses that most are too blind to see. It is one where disinformation, linguistic change and stylisic effect change our cultural and social thought patterns. At the moment this trend is the blurring of fiction and fact, a good way to get away with a major lie a major crime to believe the unbelieveable, to get an actor to be made governor because people think they are voting for the action movie characer, its a good and effective mass conspiracy, and it works subtley. What you do is you create more tv trends towards "reality" tv programming, you change word meaning so that "fantasist" means crazy , "conspiracy theory" means lie , essentialy you invert what is real and fiction or create a gray are of chaos. This is a programme that has been rolled out in the controlled media over the last 15 years and this has had a subtle memetic effect on social mass (un)concousness, (i feel towards some kind of mass illusion which will require some serious mind control and holograms!)

There is being awake and being truely awake my friends. One thing we fail to see is the context around the thing sometimes, like the wood through the trees. It is a very sly way of control and is invisble and less obvious than say linguistic programming. In this instance its a variation on a political media trick where you break a story in the media and control damage limitation to your own adavantage by messing it up yourself or changing the elements around it or the way its viewed but essentialy keeping the main elements intact so it seems legit. For all intents and purposes to the naked eye its the same story, the one you want to hear, however there has a been a control mechanism added.


ok. still with me?

Take the ventura programme, again we can not assume he is in on it, wether he is media savvy or just a victim of blindness. We have an important issue like 911, a case which like JFK is actally a crime. It involves death, real people, perps, victims, evidence, white wash, commissions. Why people will care about it and keep it releavent depends on the mass social peception of this event, if we can control how everyone views what they are seeing during and after, we can get away with the crime, pull the magic trick. If they believe that the commision and newspaper media (journalism) reports are fact and everything else like conspiracy theory(entertainment) is fiction then you dont have to do much after that. It doesnt matter what Ventura says, he could pull twenty witnesses that saw people place charges and "paint" explosives it still wouldnt matter because you average viewer will consider the context of this programme subconciously as being ficticious. And people will not even bother to go there anyway 'cause "Ventura been done did that."Trust me thats what younger generations and the force fed are like, they are gonna be inspired to take up true research into 911 as they are likely to take up van modifcation and car engineering from watching the Ateam.

This works both ways however. Thats why you will see real important information encoded in fiction and when you look closely you will see that there is this crazy movie/media battle going on over mass/peoples unconcious souls right now. The scary thing is some of it unconcious collective will and some concious manifestation of will. An "Ahriman" type of thing for all you sumerian students out there!

my point is, look very closely, there is an underlying subtext here and it is sometime how you are taking in the information not what the actual information is that is effecting you. stay awake and safe and do let the celebrity super heroes do your battling for you, you lazy sobs!

[Bobbie]

With all due respect, and while I can see your point, perhaps you could organize something, maybe even a TV program with a serious format like "Face The Nation" and everyone that is asleep would listen to your message instead of someone they are familiar with - regardless of how it is dished up. There really is no need to start name calling - M O D E R A T O R WHERE ARE YOU? A little admonition please.

Originally Posted by nameless

my point is, look very closely, there is an underlying subtext here and it is sometime how you are taking in the information not what the actual information is that is effecting you. stay awake and safe and do let the celebrity super heroes do your battling for you, you lazy sobs!

[micjer]

This is the latest. Exposes the Bilderbergers and coming plague.



Very well done.

[gscraig]

Hello Nameless,

I feel that we are merely exchanging thoughts, perceptions, and opinions. I feel very confident in the logic expressed in my previous post related to these three areas of self expression. We do not have a debate, for when it's all done and said, we will not change this program and how it is being presented. I seldomly debate on that which I can have no direct impact.

For me, the premise of my post is simple. The few whom you are able to reach regardless of the media programming or subliminal format that is used, still triggers the multiplier effect. They will want to know more, gain personal clarity on the information, very likely resulting in internet searches. This will provide them the less colorful depictions they have seen on tv, with more black and white facts. These few will then sprout this new found information outward to those they know (whom might have been those susceptible to the subliminal programming), then they will aslo seek clarity and so forth.

As previously posted, all it takes is a few to look at what they didn't consider before, and under those circumstances, the show/program is indeed succeeding.

A Happy New Year to you!

[HipHipnotist]

You can see all the Conspiracy Theory episodes here...

http://www.theamericansheeple.com/sp...sentation.html

and check out the rest of the Site.

You'll laugh until you realize the 'truth' in the humor.

Then it might not be so funny.

Nah. It's still funny.

[TheObserver]

Watched the global warming episode with my family (mom, dad, sis and i) on actual tv at my parents (they got satellite) just before xmas.
They got a kick out of seeing our former guv on tv (my mom was all 'you get em Jesse!' when he made some kind of ultimatum about something).
History channel rebroadcast 'I know what i saw' and i watched that with them around as well.
But they still prefer sports, game shows, and the usual prime-time network sheist to anything that even resembles a documentary or other non-fiction tv forms. Oh well.