Cliff High view on Bill Ryans accusations

[Average Joe]

Half past Human.

Started as a bit of a fun website with a disclaimer "this site is for entertainment purposes"...until people on here and in other places started taking it seriously.

Unbelievable how this has turned out with Cliff High being something of a respected authority of woo How did that happen? The human race shames me sometimes.

He belongs in the trash can with Deagle et all.

[madgolem]

true and you just proved your point Average Joe. The human race shames me sometimes.

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by madgolem

true and you just proved your point Average Joe. The human race shames me sometimes.

No, you have just proven it, I thank you.

[Moxie]

OH MY GAWD. I've edited this POST #91 right outa here<<< I must have been in an altered state...

glad I came back to read this thread from the beginning! There must be a ghost in this computer!

arghhh

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Moxie

Oh you cause what I know (formerly unregcognized) come to the fore!

"Before they will appear to ask for your partnership; both are required to become created within yourself as your own unifications. It is deemed necessary, that the new archetypology be built on a new foundation and for this reason and purpose you have become empowered (by your individuated struggles of familial natures) to MIRROR yourselves within yourselves INDEPENDENT from the outside world and your external associations.

Realising your own shadows, will then allow your Perseuses to realise theirs, just in looking at you as new creations and subsequently become enabled to 'redefine' themselves (in your images).

April, Scott is as much 'trapped' in the 'world around himself' as you are. This 'world' is 'getting ready for the harvest' and despite the naysayers, noone can escape the harvesting or remain sitting on the fence as an onlooker and observer. This 'harvest' is NOT physical, but mental ..."
*******
This makes me ponder "mental"... and I speculate (admit that I do not know for sure) that Mind is a creation, mostly from implanted memes, thoughts, what we're taught & do not question)... that said,...

a Mental harvest is another holographic game.
Am I way off course? I admit that I'm still grappling, however I tend to see that mind is a "creation".. a major diversion...

I'm prompted to stop now.
Is mind a creation? I think that it is.

Shape and form< the body, the soul even... mind and all it's dissections> Ego.... ok, I have to stop... I'm thinking too much...
perhaps not "hearting" enough.

I'm headlong more into "hearting" and not thinking< is that a prompt? That is a question to you Abraxasinas AND ClarkKent...
don'tcha just love it?

Hi Moxie!

Oh yes, this 'mind'-'spirit' -'thinking' thing is a question of semantics.
So it depends what you mean with 'my mind' and 'my spirit' and 'my soul' and so forth.
The time has come for a new lexicon (I have posted a detailed scientific definition of what PHYSICAL consciousness could be on a whistleblower thread of Exchanger/Susan).
So WHEN this 'spirit' becomes mainstream science, THEN people will understand that the labelings they have used so far have become insufficient to describe the phenomena.

I can give you a very simple description about the heart-mind interaction.
Most people 'pride and identify themselves' about their 'Thinking Minds' and their 'Feeling Hearts'.
A 'wisdom keeper' would say, turn it around sometimes.
THINK with your Heart and FEEL with your Mind - then your inner duality will become much easier to unify.

Now more technically, the two hemispheres of your biochemical brain also interact in a self- and mutual communication between the basic archetype of the analytic-male-leftbrain and the artistic-female-rightbrain and so forth.
The 'spirit' or 'lifeforce' of this then is rendered 'scientific' in identifying the coupling between electric-inductive and magnetic-capacitative functions commonly understood as 'human reason' and 'human instinct' and so forth as a NATURAL SUPERCONDUCTIVITY inherent in space itself (requiring no wires for medium, but able to use space itself - ergo the 'alien' technologies, 'free energy' and so on).

Abraxasinas

[madgolem]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

No, you have just proven it, I thank you.

No, i thank YOU for proving Average Joe is the reason we're ashame of humanity. I can go on forever....

[clarkkent]

"I'm headlong more into "hearting" and not thinking< is that a prompt? That is a question to you Abraxasinas AND ClarkKent...
don'tcha just love it?"



well considering "thinking" can keep the world just as messed up as it is i would think "hearting" is certainly more beneficial to our species. i tend to agree with 'james" from the wingmakers site , in as much as the heart is the organ that needs to be focused on at the moment (and notice secret societies and covert agencies always seek to understand the mind and its "power', while "heart" attributes-compassion, humility,forgiveness, empathy etc are never sought, nor practiced)

the one point i would make though is that humans shouldnt ignore the mind inasmuch that using it for wisdom and discernment to be aware of manipulation. (the one big group of people i see who try and do good would be your average american christian who i see with big hearts but who, on the whole, are very easily duped by religious leaders/media/gov)

honestly from my POV (concerning our species) hunter gatherer tribes are on the whole more spiritually evolved and practice a biologically viable way of living. civilization seems like a bad experiment (that keeps failing if the atlantis/lemuria theories are correct)

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

Half past Human.

Started as a bit of a fun website with a disclaimer "this site is for entertainment purposes"...until people on here and in other places started taking it seriously.

Unbelievable how this has turned out with Cliff High being something of a respected authority of woo How did that happen? The human race shames me sometimes.

He belongs in the trash can with Deagle et all.

Cliff and the Web Bot have made predictions that came true numerous times. They have an intelligible message and have been quite accurate in many ways -- more so than I've seen for any "future" forecasting methods.

What did Project Camelot or Deagle ever predict? For anyone who missed it, check out Deagle's audio interview last year telling everyone to head for the hills. He never exactly followed up on that.

--sjkted

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by sjkted

Cliff and the Web Bot have made predictions that came true numerous times.

No, they have not.

What did Project Camelot or Deagle ever predict? For anyone who missed it, check out Deagle's audio interview last year telling everyone to head for the hills. He never exactly followed up on that.

--sjkted

I agree. Having said that Camelot aren't really there to make predictions, they only facilitate people who want to make them.

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

No, they have not.

Well there we have it.

Average Joe: Thanks for clarifying that issue. You have helped me see the error in my ways.

--sjkted

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by sjkted

Well there we have it.

Average Joe: Thanks for clarifying that issue. You have helped me see the error in my ways.

--sjkted

No problem, don't make the same mistake again.

[Jonah]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

No problem, don't make the same mistake again.

Average Joe,

This can be viewed as a threat..

We do our best to allow people to express themselves as they wish.....

However, if we were to tolerate such behavior....

this forum would devolve rather quickly.. so please try to be more understanding of another persons view point...

does fighting fire with fire really help the issue..???

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by Jonah

Average Joe,

This can be viewed as a threat..

We do our best to allow people to express themselves as they wish.....

However, if we were to tolerate such behavior....

this forum devolve rather quickly.. so please try to be more understanding of another persons view point...

does fighting fire with fire really help the issue..???

A threat?

[YinYangMind]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

Half past Human.

Started as a bit of a fun website with a disclaimer "this site is for entertainment purposes"...until people on here and in other places started taking it seriously.

Unbelievable how this has turned out with Cliff High being something of a respected authority of woo How did that happen? The human race shames me sometimes.

He belongs in the trash can with Deagle et all.

AJ,

Do you just stop in and spout to make yourself feel relevant or do you actually have some data to back up your short intellectually vacuous statements? Your post above sounds just like the childish non-sense that Bill threw on the table starting this latest of many questionable events surrounding the PC/PA world.

Question looking for an answer: Have you done any actual research on the subject discussed on this thread? If so, care to share your findings?

Peace,

YinYangMind

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by YinYangMind

AJ,

Do you just stop in and spout to make yourself feel relevant or do you actually have some data to back up your short intellectually vacuous statements? Your post above sounds just like the childish non-sense that Bill threw on the table starting this latest of many questionable events surrounding the PC/PA world.

Question looking for an answer: Have you done any actual research on the subject discussed on this thread? If so, care to share your findings?

Peace,

YinYangMind

My findings are that HPH is an entertainment website that has not predicted anything accurately so far. Like I said.

[YinYangMind]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

My findings are that HPH is an entertainment website that has not predicted anything accurately so far. Like I said.

I see. You've definitely demonstrated a severe depth of critical thinking, participation and response. If you would actually take the time to 'read, ponder and respond', I'll be more than happy to post empirical data that is contrary to your findings. Somehow, I'm not sure you'd take the time or consider data outside of your own realm of evidence, but I will provide you some thought provoking results from my research if you'd like nonetheless.

Peace,

YinYangMind

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by YinYangMind

I see. You've definitely demonstrated a severe depth of critical thinking, participation and response. If you would actually take the time to 'read, ponder and respond', I'll be more than happy to post empirical data that is contrary to your findings. Somehow, I'm not sure you'd take the time or consider data outside of your own realm of evidence, but I will provide you some thought provoking results from my research if you'd like nonetheless.

Peace,

YinYangMind

Go on then.

Produce empirical data that shows the site to have predicted anything remotely accurate, and I'm not talking vague co-incidences here.

Also, show me how the site is not for entertainment purposes only - it had that disclaimer on it for years. It doesn't now, but you don't seriously believe that an entertainment website is now churning out serious stuff and serious results do you?

[clarkkent]

its best to ignore wholly useless posts (all of aj's so far) and pay attention to people who have something substantive to say. in forum "speak" i believe the term is "troll' and its best to leave them unfed.

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

its best to ignore wholly useless posts (all of aj's so far) and pay attention to people who have something substantive to say. in forum "speak" i believe the term is "troll' and its best to leave them unfed.

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

I agree. We're being trolled here. I'm not responding to any more of this sh**.

--sjkted

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

its best to ignore wholly useless posts (all of aj's so far) and pay attention to people who have something substantive to say. in forum "speak" i believe the term is "troll' and its best to leave them unfed.

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

Ignore the truth all you like. Ironic for this forum, I'll give you that.

I stand by my statement re HPH and it isn't trolling. Maybe the truth hurts - not my fault.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

its best to ignore wholly useless posts (all of aj's so far) and pay attention to people who have something substantive to say. in forum "speak" i believe the term is "troll' and its best to leave them unfed.

-clark

There's always got to be one, it seems. "I gots dis here opiniun, and wants to shares it wit chew all (scratch-scratch)". Nothing wrong with sharing opinions, but kind of useless when accompanied by a "facts" vacuum. I guess the wedding interrupted by the quake, and the northeast power outage were "coinkydinks"

[Average Joe]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

There's always got to be one, it seems. "I gots dis here opiniun, and wants to shares it wit chew all (scratch-scratch)". Nothing wrong with sharing opinions, but kind of useless when accompanied by a "facts" vacuum. I guess the wedding interrupted by the quake, and the northeast power outage were "coinkydinks"

I'm sorry, but there is always "lots" it seems, that believe any old BS, any old BS site, and then when it is pointed out, resort to pseudo intellectual character assassination of the said "one"

I have said that site has never been right in its predictions. I have said that it is an entertainment site. How many more facts do you want, you people that accuse me of being a troll and of not using facts? There are TWO big fat facts for you to chew on right there.

I still await somebody, anybody, to provide me with solid facts that show it is a serious site and has gotten predictions in the past right. Until then, I think people should lay off the character assassination OK? I'm here to discuss, this took my interest, on this occasion I oppose, so what is the big problem. People just can't take opposing views on sites like this can they?

And yes, the vague co-incidences about the wddding and power outage, need more than that. Where is the link predicting the wedding interrupted by the quake, with time, date, location? Where is the news article confirming time, date, location after the event? They have to match to be a fact not a "coinkydink"

[Luana]

AJ, I wonder if you have bought and read any of the alta reports? If you have, then you are able to be part of the webbot discussion forum. They have been keeping track of bot hits. There are way to many to post here. Which is one of the reasons Clif is so highly thought of here.

[truth and integrity]

Originally posted by franciejones
You’re being hotheaded and impetuous again!

I can hear you franciejones. It is so frustrating when people can not accept our needs or a different opinion but use judgment or name-calling to discredit our needs or point of view. Very immature stance, indeed.

Best regards,

[YinYangMind]

Originally Posted by Luana

AJ, I wonder if you have bought and read any of the alta reports? If you have, then you are able to be part of the webbot discussion forum. They have been keeping track of bot hits. There are way to many to post here. Which is one of the reasons Clif is so highly thought of here.

And that's the real point isn't it! It seems that AJ has taken the same sorry tack that Bill has on this issue and franciejones post/issue... seems more like the AGW crowd throwing questionable and demonstrably blatant incorrect 'facts' around for some 'cya.'

AJ, you by your own admission have seen that the 'disclaimer' regarding 'entertainment' has been removed from the site (it's now included in each report with very detailed reasons) and as stated by the quoted post, you probably have never spent any time reading any of them. Additionally, HPH states specifically that they 'do not make predictions' as you accuse, they make 'forecasts' just like the jolly ole weathermen in the UK. Do you understand the difference between the two? Do you give them the same disregard in their profession you give HPH?

As stated, there are plenty of 'bot hits' if you care to objectively review them. You stating that the 'predictions', which they are not, have never had one hit supported by news articles, etc, is just plain ignorant!

As many of us here have stated many times, there are some very intelligent and thoughtful people here who hold Clif in high regard because we have spent the time analyzing his body of work. The latest childish and nefarious non-sense that has come from the latest PC/PA interviews/interviewees/protection & defection of 'whistleblowers' and their questionable pasts have raised serious concerns for those of us who have followed both PC/PA & HPH. It's funny that you don't see any of these types of issues surrounding HPH...except when Bill stumbled and created a reason for Clif to clarify facts from fiction...which by all accounts, was done very well and Bill hasn't even attempted to address what Glif wrote...where's the truth in that AJ?

We are trying to get to the bottom of the truth. If you have 'facts' that support your position, bring it on. Otherwise, stop wasting your valuable keyboard and internet time with your negative, factless, agenda driven drivel so the rest of us can continue pursuing the truth!

Oh, one more question...do you believe in AGW?

Peace,

YinYangMind