Alex jones loses last thread of credibility

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Seashore

This post is for the purpose of defending Alex Jones against his critics, who I've today discovered, by listening to the beginning of the September 11, 2009 archive for the Veritas Show, includes Mel Fabregas.

Yeah, it was a stunt to hype what turned out to be a script written by Charlie Sheen, which had a disclaimer, at the end, not at the beginning.

Wow. Shame on Alex Jones. Yeah, I'm being sarcastic.

Perhaps Alex Jones and Charlie Sheen were trying to use a tactic in order to raise awareness about 9-11 truth, which is essential to waking up the public to the ongoing march to tyranny we all face, since the unconstitutional Patriot Act, etc., etc., have their justification based on the phony "war on terror," which began after the attacks of September 11, 2001. Perhaps they felt it necessary under the circumstances we the people are enmeshed in. I think making a big deal out of this is placing much too much importance on a minor infraction, in view of the enormous contribution Alex Jones has made, and continues to make, to the cause of freedom.

I thank God for Alex Jones.

Want to hear something REALLY sad....

I've actually laid out the evidence to folks and family and in the end...they agree with me....then I get the "SO WHAT"

Your government outwardly killed 3000 plus folks in front of your eyes!!!!



SG is slapping the SLEEPERS!!!!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Want to hear something REALLY sad....

I've actually laid out the evidence to folks and family and in the end...they agree with me....then I get the "SO WHAT"

Your government outwardly killed 300 plus folks in front of your eyes!!!!



SG is slapping the SLEEPERS!!!!

You mean to say "3000" plus...

is right.

I admire you for having presented the evidence to people, though. Some good has to come from your efforts, it seems to me.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

nice bump, this reminds me that i didnt start off with alex jones in my basket of awakening infoirmation conduits. that stunt pretty much put me off listening to him. i listen to youtube interveiws with various people when its a good topic or person. lord munckton is a prime example.

[housemouse2]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Want to hear something REALLY sad....

I've actually laid out the evidence to folks and family and in the end...they agree with me....then I get the "SO WHAT"

Your government outwardly killed 3000 plus folks in front of your eyes!!!!



SG is slapping the SLEEPERS!!!!

that's basically the reply I got. "As long as it doesn't affect me." My mother's very words.

I don't think it's a case of people being selfish. I think it's a case of being absolutely terrified. The realization that our own government killed thousands of people to justify 2 false wars is too horrific to comprehend and that is the only reply their minds can come up with.

My initial reaction upon the realization was of absolute horror and then anger. Most people are going just deny it. Much easier to go with the lesser of the 2 evils.

Their options are accept the truth which is terrifying to an extreme or deny it. When they can't set aside the truth and realize that you are dead serious the next part of that denial is to claim it doesn't affect them...even though it does.

The truth is too horrific for most to accept. I don't blame them, all their lives they have been brainwashed into thinking what TV and the media tells them. They do not know they are programmed what top think, what to buy, where to spend money. They just know they have little money left and are struggling to survive.

9/11 will remain a "terrorist" attack for the foreseeable future and even if the government were to come out and admit it...people would still deny it was the work of the government.

Part of the great awakening that is happening now is 9/11...but that cannot be the main focus. Even concentrating on the fed is too difficult for most people to comprehend. Trying to explain inflation and the disappearing middle class is difficult. The audience isn't up to date with terms, policies,ect.

Our audience is more concerned with Tiger Wood, Micheal Jackson, latest idols and Hollywood films. They can comprehend Hollywood and even realize it's junk news.

I find the best way to combat 9/11 is to inform people about Islam and stop the BS about extremist. Tell them Islam believes in Christ and most Islamic are not terrorist. that the 50 virgins upon death was propaganda, that Al Queda is slang for going to the toilet and merely hint that it's not a good self respecting terrorist name.

I have gotten much further by defacing the fear of Muslim extremist than by making people fearful of our own government. We cannot bring truth to people through fear. It has to be through empowerment.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by housemouse2

that's basically the reply I got. "As long as it doesn't affect me." My mother's very words.

I don't think it's a case of people being selfish. I think it's a case of being absolutely terrified. The realization that our own government killed thousands of people to justify 2 false wars is too horrific to comprehend and that is the only reply their minds can come up with.

My initial reaction upon the realization was of absolute horror and then anger. Most people are going just deny it. Much easier to go with the lesser of the 2 evils.

Their options are accept the truth which is terrifying to an extreme or deny it. When they can't set aside the truth and realize that you are dead serious the next part of that denial is to claim it doesn't affect them...even though it does.

The truth is too horrific for most to accept. I don't blame them, all their lives they have been brainwashed into thinking what TV and the media tells them. They do not know they are programmed what top think, what to buy, where to spend money. They just know they have little money left and are struggling to survive.

9/11 will remain a "terrorist" attack for the foreseeable future and even if the government were to come out and admit it...people would still deny it was the work of the government.

Part of the great awakening that is happening now is 9/11...but that cannot be the main focus. Even concentrating on the fed is too difficult for most people to comprehend. Trying to explain inflation and the disappearing middle class is difficult. The audience isn't up to date with terms, policies,ect.

Our audience is more concerned with Tiger Wood, Micheal Jackson, latest idols and Hollywood films. They can comprehend Hollywood and even realize it's junk news.

I find the best way to combat 9/11 is to inform people about Islam and stop the BS about extremist. Tell them Islam believes in Christ and most Islamic are not terrorist. that the 50 virgins upon death was propaganda, that Al Queda is slang for going to the toilet and merely hint that it's not a good self respecting terrorist name.

I have gotten much further by defacing the fear of Muslim extremist than by making people fearful of our own government. We cannot bring truth to people through fear. It has to be through empowerment.

housemouse2,

You've given me a lot to think about.

Thank you.

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by housemouse2

that's basically the reply I got. "As long as it doesn't affect me." My mother's very words.

I don't think it's a case of people being selfish. I think it's a case of being absolutely terrified. The realization that our own government killed thousands of people to justify 2 false wars is too horrific to comprehend and that is the only reply their minds can come up with.

My initial reaction upon the realization was of absolute horror and then anger. Most people are going just deny it. Much easier to go with the lesser of the 2 evils.

Their options are accept the truth which is terrifying to an extreme or deny it. When they can't set aside the truth and realize that you are dead serious the next part of that denial is to claim it doesn't affect them...even though it does.

The truth is too horrific for most to accept. I don't blame them, all their lives they have been brainwashed into thinking what TV and the media tells them. They do not know they are programmed what top think, what to buy, where to spend money. They just know they have little money left and are struggling to survive.

9/11 will remain a "terrorist" attack for the foreseeable future and even if the government were to come out and admit it...people would still deny it was the work of the government.

Part of the great awakening that is happening now is 9/11...but that cannot be the main focus. Even concentrating on the fed is too difficult for most people to comprehend. Trying to explain inflation and the disappearing middle class is difficult. The audience isn't up to date with terms, policies,ect.

Our audience is more concerned with Tiger Wood, Micheal Jackson, latest idols and Hollywood films. They can comprehend Hollywood and even realize it's junk news.

I find the best way to combat 9/11 is to inform people about Islam and stop the BS about extremist. Tell them Islam believes in Christ and most Islamic are not terrorist. that the 50 virgins upon death was propaganda, that Al Queda is slang for going to the toilet and merely hint that it's not a good self respecting terrorist name.

I have gotten much further by defacing the fear of Muslim extremist than by making people fearful of our own government. We cannot bring truth to people through fear. It has to be through empowerment.

Great post HM2!!

I agree....the PTB play on differences that are not even present.

The only terrorists I know wear business suits

[Kulapops]

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

SG is slapping the SLEEPERS!!!!

And I say that's better than sleeping with the Slappers !

Yes, I agree with you all that it's about awareness. But also aware that we can't do much, because even the 'facts' that are uncovered may not be true. And just because some fact is sensational doesn't make it real.

E.g. - Michael Jackson was offed by the CIA. Spinning pyramids over the Kremlin ? UFO chased by F11s ??

MJ is a good case in point, how many people scoffed at or were taken in by the 'fact' that he slept in an oxygen tent, or all the other crazy things. We can laugh about the crazy stories in the press and then get taken in and led by the nose just because some 'fact' is has come from alternative-conspiracy press.

For another example, I heard somewhere else that Al Quida meant 'The Database' . Does that mean then that both facts are true (as well as 'going to the toilet' posted above) or is one of them incorrect, and if so, which one? I have no way of knowing, because I only read my fact somewhere, or saw it on a video (probably the 9-11 loose change one I think).

So where does that bring us? Awareness is important, and something other is probably going on, but it's probably more important in my view to be real to everyone and patient and love those we awaken, rather than worry about the nitty gritty, it may be true, it may not, it may never be proven (Lady Di murdered? Who knows ??)

By affecting those around us, we affect the world.

Peace n love,

K

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by Kulapops

And I say that's better than sleeping with the Slappers !

Yes, I agree with you all that it's about awareness. But also aware that we can't do much, because even the 'facts' that are uncovered may not be true. And just because some fact is sensational doesn't make it real.

E.g. - Michael Jackson was offed by the CIA. Spinning pyramids over the Kremlin ? UFO chased by F11s ??

MJ is a good case in point, how many people scoffed at or were taken in by the 'fact' that he slept in an oxygen tent, or all the other crazy things. We can laugh about the crazy stories in the press and then get taken in and led by the nose just because some 'fact' is has come from alternative-conspiracy press.

For another example, I heard somewhere else that Al Quida meant 'The Database' . Does that mean then that both facts are true (as well as 'going to the toilet' posted above) or is one of them incorrect, and if so, which one? I have no way of knowing, because I only read my fact somewhere, or saw it on a video (probably the 9-11 loose change one I think).

So where does that bring us? Awareness is important, and something other is probably going on, but it's probably more important in my view to be real to everyone and patient and love those we awaken, rather than worry about the nitty gritty, it may be true, it may not, it may never be proven (Lady Di murdered? Who knows ??)

By affecting those around us, we affect the world.

Peace n love,

K

Hey KP...

The "reality" that passes my gut check seems to be much weirder than any conspiracy theory.

I can't figure out how my brain is so susceptible to images....it see something and transfers it into my reality.

It's like we used to "see" a lot more (other spectrum s) and we were fed much more info than the very limited sight we have now.

It's much easier to "trick" our minds into believing.

I don't watch TV and haven't for over 10 years....but when I'm stuck in a room with an ON set...my eyes drift toward it.

REALLY weird.