What do you expect from ET`s ?

Anchor · 12-21-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by beren

He spoke about truth ,love,light wisdom and actual power in humanity...
At first they followed him, were joyful and blessed him , them as time passed by he shook them of since he did not wish to start a cult of a person following.
Then he started to shook their beliefs with harder stuff and eventually they dislike him and ,few more months and what?
The very ones whom were saved from demons,fed and cured from disseases ,nailed him to the cross.

Without expressing an opinion on this directly, I would comment that those people who followed him around were all missing the point.

The answers are not in a human teacher, whose every utterance is waited on with baited breath. The answers are within. If you cant look within, then hey lets shoot the messenger!

As we are on the subject of that famous individual, the bible ascribes this quote to Jesus: "... I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father ..."

Thats a powerful message (amongst others). You mean what!!! We can all do this stuff ? You can see people being killed for telling the truth these days - imagine how that one went down?

Every human alive today falls within the meaning of John 14:12 above in my opinion. Some people don't want it that way.

A..

beren · 12-21-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Anchor

Without expressing an opinion on this directly, I would comment that those people who followed him around were all missing the point.

The answers are not in a human teacher, whose every utterance is waited on with baited breath. The answers are within. If you cant look within, then hey lets shoot the messenger!

As we are on the subject of that famous individual, the bible ascribes this quote to Jesus: "... I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father ..."

Thats a powerful message (amongst others). You mean what!!! We can all do this stuff ? You can see people being killed for telling the truth these days - imagine how that one went down?

Every human alive today falls within the meaning of John 14:12 above in my opinion. Some people don't want it that way.

A..

Exactly!

He came to say and show to the people the real thing.

But as you said many did not wish that , so they turned against him and eventually killed him.
One of the most powerful statements about his message was when he was about to be arrested and when he said to Peter :" Do not think that I can not ask my father to send me 12 legions of angels right now? But then how the scripture will be fulfilled?"

He came to bring light and love. He left destruction to his father when all other means are left out.

People failed. Some did not but many failed.
Even his appolstles living and breathing with him for years did not understod the message. Many years afterwards some realized the message,still many did not.

Paul was writing greatly about that message and was acused by other Christians of " heavy teachings" and later was affirmed by Peter and Peter actually defended Paul at the end.

See, many choose to close their heart ,soul and mind for light, love and truth.

So if ,say, craft lands here tomorrow , how many will choose to see the truth?
Not many since they will be blinded by technology and special effects...

We sholud stop old ways of thinkings or we are doomed.
I do not think that we have much credits to go on forever like this way of life we have on Earth.

Mark · 12-21-2009, 11:43 AM

When Mr and Mrs, Master, Miss and Ms Extra Celestial, finally make themselves known to everyone with their eyes open to see them, I want their friendship, honesty and love. Is this too much to ask for because these qualities are what I look for in my friends...

beren · 12-21-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark

When Mr and Mrs, Master, Miss and Ms Extra Celestial, finally make themselves known to everyone with their eyes open to see them, I want their friendship, honesty and love. Is this too much to ask for because these qualities are what I look for in my friends...

That´s the spirit!

mikey · 12-21-2009, 01:50 PM

hey, in my humbled opinion...i believe. what should we expect from off world visitors?...nothing but the expectation that we should treat others how we ourselves wish to be treated. an old cliche some may say but for me one that gas stood the test of time and works. i firmly do not believe people who have any intentions but love and kindness will not be blessed or given the opportunity to engage in this manner with said visitors. they will simply deem us as not ready and rightly so. our outward vibrationn reflects our inward vibrations, feelings and general disposition and you do not neede to have ''et skills'' to find this out. many children and pets and indeed people with a little sensitivity can pick up ill vibrationn and tend to avoid these traits if and when they can...but obviously these situations are more easily said than done. to conclude, it is all a choice...every moment, every day, every experience is a chance to choose a more loving approach or point of they on everything and it is these choices and experiences which ultimately culminate in our growth. entities, energies, et's, spirits...all are names for effectively breaking up the idea that all is the same and they are us and everything else. knowing this we should all concentrate on how we can improve on our own lives in every possible way in every conceivable way for the good of all that we are. its all a choice, at a grass roots level...the rest will do itself. One love, peace always, mikey

Céline · 12-21-2009, 02:36 PM

Expectations lead to disappointment...

Someone i know and love very much uses this expression sometimes...

Sometimes it hurts me ...but it always makes me think...

In the end he is right.

i have no expectations from Et's...

Except that they come from another planet...ofcourse

Céline · 12-21-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anchor

The answers are not in a human teacher, whose every utterance is waited on with baited breath. The answers are within. If you cant look within, then hey lets shoot the messenger!

A..

i do not mean to be argumentative.. though i agree in context with what you are saying...

i do feel there is much to gain from the shared experience between humans...and sometimes that experience is expressed through devotion...

i know i have experienced extreme devotion moments with my husband over the last quarter century...

Or how every sound, every move made by my grandson captivates my attention... Ok, i am not waiting on him with bated breath ...but still i am captivated in that moment...

Or how the wind can transport me...the ocean move me....

i agree with you that in the end...we shoot the messenger...

But i believe our relationship with each other is our strength...

Gringo · 12-21-2009, 03:37 PM

To my understanding there are quite a few (possably over 50) different races of ET's that we know of, and it seems that they are all interested in us or what we have. So who are the good guys and who are the bad guys....it's hard to say, only time will tell. When that time comes, we will co-exist with them on a day to day basis and when we do that we will know what to expect from them. Kinda like America you know (the great melting pot) where diffrent people of different nationalites, color, and religions, live and work together. Shure there are problems but problems can be worked out. I think the same applies with the ET's.

trainedobserver · 12-21-2009, 04:29 PM

What do "I" expect from ETs?

I don't expect them to behave like human beings. I don't expect that they would resemble us in any way other than possessing the basic characteristics of all life, ie. they will primarly be working toward the survival and perpetuation of their own species.

"I hope"

1. That we can trust them. But I would exercise the most extreme caution.
2. That they would be helpful and kind to us, their developmentally slower cousins.

"I suspect"

1. That we have been visited for centuries.
2. Human development has been influenced by them.
3. They directly or indirectly influence the perception and investigation of UFO phenomena by human agencies.
4. Their purposes here require secrecy and therefore they will never openly reveal themselves in a manner we would think appropriate. Either that or they care as much about our perceptions of them as we do of the perceptions of non-threatening wild life of us.

Peace of mind · 12-21-2009, 04:38 PM

Nothing, other then sharing experiences of the past and present. Personally, I would like a galactic map to the best restaurants in the cosmos and some opinions on the best make and models to personal star ships would be cool too.

Peace

12-21-2009, 11:43 AM	#3
Mark Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Earth Posts: 248	Re: What do you expect from ET`s ? When Mr and Mrs, Master, Miss and Ms Extra Celestial, finally make themselves known to everyone with their eyes open to see them, I want their friendship, honesty and love. Is this too much to ask for because these qualities are what I look for in my friends...

12-21-2009, 01:50 PM	#5
mikey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 228	Re: What do you expect from ET`s ? hey, in my humbled opinion...i believe. what should we expect from off world visitors?...nothing but the expectation that we should treat others how we ourselves wish to be treated. an old cliche some may say but for me one that gas stood the test of time and works. i firmly do not believe people who have any intentions but love and kindness will not be blessed or given the opportunity to engage in this manner with said visitors. they will simply deem us as not ready and rightly so. our outward vibrationn reflects our inward vibrations, feelings and general disposition and you do not neede to have ''et skills'' to find this out. many children and pets and indeed people with a little sensitivity can pick up ill vibrationn and tend to avoid these traits if and when they can...but obviously these situations are more easily said than done. to conclude, it is all a choice...every moment, every day, every experience is a chance to choose a more loving approach or point of they on everything and it is these choices and experiences which ultimately culminate in our growth. entities, energies, et's, spirits...all are names for effectively breaking up the idea that all is the same and they are us and everything else. knowing this we should all concentrate on how we can improve on our own lives in every possible way in every conceivable way for the good of all that we are. its all a choice, at a grass roots level...the rest will do itself. One love, peace always, mikey

12-21-2009, 02:36 PM	#6
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: What do you expect from ET`s ? Expectations lead to disappointment... Someone i know and love very much uses this expression sometimes... Sometimes it hurts me ...but it always makes me think... In the end he is right. i have no expectations from Et's... Except that they come from another planet...ofcourse

12-21-2009, 03:37 PM	#8
Gringo Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Illionois Posts: 11	Re: What do you expect from ET`s ? To my understanding there are quite a few (possably over 50) different races of ET's that we know of, and it seems that they are all interested in us or what we have. So who are the good guys and who are the bad guys....it's hard to say, only time will tell. When that time comes, we will co-exist with them on a day to day basis and when we do that we will know what to expect from them. Kinda like America you know (the great melting pot) where diffrent people of different nationalites, color, and religions, live and work together. Shure there are problems but problems can be worked out. I think the same applies with the ET's.

12-21-2009, 04:29 PM	#9
trainedobserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 284	Re: What do you expect from ET`s ? What do "I" expect from ETs? I don't expect them to behave like human beings. I don't expect that they would resemble us in any way other than possessing the basic characteristics of all life, ie. they will primarly be working toward the survival and perpetuation of their own species. "I hope" 1. That we can trust them. But I would exercise the most extreme caution. 2. That they would be helpful and kind to us, their developmentally slower cousins. "I suspect" 1. That we have been visited for centuries. 2. Human development has been influenced by them. 3. They directly or indirectly influence the perception and investigation of UFO phenomena by human agencies. 4. Their purposes here require secrecy and therefore they will never openly reveal themselves in a manner we would think appropriate. Either that or they care as much about our perceptions of them as we do of the perceptions of non-threatening wild life of us.

12-21-2009, 04:38 PM	#10
Peace of mind Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The uncharted consciousness Posts: 311	Re: What do you expect from ET`s ? Nothing, other then sharing experiences of the past and present. Personally, I would like a galactic map to the best restaurants in the cosmos and some opinions on the best make and models to personal star ships would be cool too. Peace