Removal of Dr. Deagle from Camelot website after Cliff High expose' of Bill Ryan

[powerviolence]

I'm SO SICK of these people fighting... I hate to hear people name-drop these whistleblowers and researchers like ANYBODY here knows what is true/accurate... to me they're all babies arguing over cartoons.. you're all 3rd density humans, quit predicting 'dates' and 'events, quit arguing over what is true or not, when neither of you knows! I'm starting to think some whistleblowers and some of the things they say, are just agents of misinfo. There's no way all those people who have worked for the govt in ultra-secret black projects, and have quite possibly(more like DEFINITELY) been deeply programmed with illuminati programming which is irreversible are now trying to disclose info and save the world?

All I can say is trust no one, read everything, believe what rings true, everything else is petty ********.

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by powerviolence

I'm SO SICK of these people fighting... I hate to hear people name-drop these whistleblowers and researchers like ANYBODY here knows what is true/accurate... to me they're all babies arguing over cartoons.. you're all 3rd density humans, quit predicting 'dates' and 'events, quit arguing over what is true or not, when neither of you knows! I'm starting to think some whistleblowers and some of the things they say, are just agents of misinfo. There's no way all those people who have worked for the govt in ultra-secret black projects, and have quite possibly(more like DEFINITELY) been deeply programmed with illuminati programming which is irreversible are now trying to disclose info and save the world?

All I can say is trust no one, read everything, believe what rings true, everything else is petty ********.

I Agree completely. Even if a whistleblower is fake it doesn't really mater. In order to make their stories convincing they would need to mix the deception with the truth and enough of the truth to get as far as Bill & Kerry taking notice. Also, what the whistleblower is sharing may be 100% their personal truth. Their situation would have placed them in a position where they are being fed their story. Still, the truth must be mixed with the deception to be convincing but this would be done from a deeper source. Don't shoot the messenger. Learn discernment and take all the gems & nugets of truth you can when you sift them out from the mud. Often we can learn from the truths that are used to hide the deceptions.

Shiva777 put it very well on Bill Ryans thread

Originally Posted by shiva777

remember Bill Ryan is no more aware or "knowing" than most other people in respect to future events or BS detection,he may know more about what "insiders" have said tho him but those insiders are also heavily mind -controlled and Bill is unable to be sure of what ANY of them say...the only way we can truly KNOW what is going on is by purifying our hearts,souls,minds and bodies...intellectual analysis is VERY limited,Bill looks at things from a very scientific MINDED stance,which has it's merits,but in order to discern TRUTH it is the heart and inner connection that is IMPORTANT...when both the mind and the heart are highly synchronised and developed THEN truth can be FELT..not just theorised...do you really think Bill or Kerry are in a position to answer many of the questions posed in this thread?..it is evident in their interviews that they really knoiw very little and are just as unable to discern info from disinfo as many of us are...they are both dealing with lots of egoic issues as are the vast majotrity of us and what they say,may be interesting but it will also be very limited by their own mind and spirits development....so when asking questions of Bill ,keep that in mind and stick to his limited framework of undetrstanding,his "insider" investigations etc....and MOST OF ALL ,MEDITATE ON THE QUESTIONS you have and look for the truth vibration within yourselves.........

[eleni]

I don't agree that a whistleblower must mix in deception although I suppose it depends upon what you have to say and if you are authorized to say it- and under those types of situations there does appear to be deception (people still working in black ops etc).
There's no need to elaborate one's story etc; not everyone is going to have the total picture anyhow.

I only want people to tell their personal truth no matter how odd it sounds etc;

Also does it raise a huge red flag when someone makes a business or *science* out of their experiences? I've not been comfortable with that aspect.

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by eleni

I don't agree that a whistleblower must mix in deception although I suppose it depends upon what you have to say and if you are authorized to say it- and under those types of situations there does appear to be deception (people still working in black ops etc).
There's no need to elaborate one's story etc; not everyone is going to have the total picture anyhow.

I only want people to tell their personal truth no matter how odd it sounds etc;

Also does it raise a huge red flag when someone makes a business or *science* out of their experiences? I've not been comfortable with that aspect.

It's not that they must mix in deception but we have to be prepared that their situation may have placed them with information that is 100% true to them but is not the absolute truth as they may have been deceived. If we can accept this then we can take what truth we can that resonates with our inner truth.