Bill Ryan's thread

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I have looked further through my notes concerning Jane Burgermeister.

Dr Deagle's Nutrimedical Report on September 18, 2009, the 2nd Hour, covered this subject. The guests were Alex Studer, who is on Dr Deagle's team as a blogger and a person who files petitions for injunction; JoAnne Cremer, who was the person who spearheaded a Facebook group in support of Jane; and Dr Ott.

The important things that were said are:

1. The legal team Jane claimed to have turned out to be one person who is not an attorney.
2. The person accepted $6000 from Elizabeth Book for whatever it was he filed.
3. On July 24, Jane put out a call advocating disruption and the destruction of property related to NLE 09.
4. Jane issued 5 or 6 emails to Joanne regarding the use of "gorilla warfare."
5. Dr Ott researched this and noted that "How to Instill Gorilla Warfare" was written in the 80's and given to the Contra rebels; it was written by Stubblebine, who is one of Jane's supporters.
6. Joanne was asked to solicit money from Facebook group members, which had become international and numbered 7,000 people.
7. After Joanne realized she had to terminate her support for Jane and announced this, Jane accused her of association with mass murderers, pedophiles, satanists, etc.

This information appears between 5:40 - 35:40. Again, the correct archive is September 18, 2009, 2nd Hour:

http://www.gcnlive.com/archive.php?program=nutrimedical

Originally Posted by Seashore

In my opinion Sorcha Faal is never worth reading, except to understand what the enemy is up to.

The point of my lengthy post showing my research is to show that there is reason to believe that Jane is in league with, knowingly or unknowingly, Zionist/New World Order interests.

In my humble opinion, Dr Ott should be directly consulted about this by Camelot.

Bill,

If Jane Burgermeister is the victim of specific mind control techniques along the lines of MKULTRA projects, her integrity would not be a factor, correct?

Bill are you perhaps familiar with the so called Revelations of an Insider? I do not know if this was ever discussed before and the possible conclusions of that discussion.

I know nothing about the integrity of the document.

I got a pdf today, file which is based on the posts on some forum in year 2005. Someone presented himself as an insider, claiming to be the member of the actual ruling families (not known to anyone) that are here to do their job based on the Divine Law...according to the benevolent beings that "rule" this realm and also other realms.

The insider for example claims that all known public figures including those such as current and past royalty and Rothschild family, religion prophets...etc....are all peasants that just do their role...and that we humans are here on a prison planet making the choice to utilize what was given to us as we wish....etc Deciding our own fate...

I am asking you this since the given answers are somewhat "complex" and exceed common basement based hoaxers...and alike.

EDIT:

I was just notified you have already talked about this. I withdraw the qustion.

[Daft Ada]

Hey Bill they are having a go mate, what say you to this
http://nwocollapse.freehostia.com/article.php?ID=373

[Jonah]

Bill,

Has there ever been a romantic connection between you and Kerry?
(forgive the intrusion, just thought I'd ask)

thanks again, jonah

[powerviolence]

Originally Posted by Jonah

Bill,

Has there ever been a romantic connection between you and Kerry?
(forgive the intrusion, just thought I'd ask)

thanks again, jonah

Me and my gf watch camelot together and for the longest time she swore that bill and kerry were a couple, but I've read somewhere that Bill has another GF so I knew it wasn't true, not to intrude in such a personal subject, but bill and kerry's romance or non-romance is just one of the quirky things about camelot that people like.

A question, Bill, you say that having any concrete proof of anything would be dangerous for you guys, but are you sure it has to be that way? I mean, there is just no way of ever getting some proof to us(the public), whether it be photos, devices, or whatever.. there just isn't a way to show it without somebody getting killed? maybe show it anonymously or something? I dunno, but it really shouldn't be this way, because concrete proof of anything would possibly propel your work to a much more serious status of importance that would let the 'sheeple' so to speak try to get into Camelot. We all believe and trust you guys, but how long can blind faith last..

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, All:

Been very busy - please excuse more brief replies. But I'll try to get to them all.

Some good questions here! (I'm also very aware of how much I cannot answer because I just don't know )

Originally Posted by eagle02

Question for Bill
It is concerning a need for a referral.
The person is a friend who has abilities and needs someone to counsel concerning the ability to travel and communicate during REM sleep.

Not sure what to suggest... there MAY be a thread on this forum that could help. (Anyone?)

Originally Posted by halebox

Annunaki?

Nope

It's NOT the snake.

Please see what I wrote yesterday: it's the jawline - the last frame of James Earl Jones BEFORE he morphs (and the chin a bit more extended than even that, so I was told). Also NOT the skin color. Just the chin and general facial shape.

I do NOT know whether they are shapeshifters. I have a provisional opinion that some of them may be, but I'm still unclear about this. It's a hugely important issue to understand.

Originally Posted by Barron

i was interested also to know why you lumped the Ashtar Command into the same pile of manure as Nesara?

Never seen or heard any credible evidence that the Ashtar Command is real. The highly strange 'Vrillon' event cited by Astralwalker (interrupted BBC broadcast, 16 November 1977)

http://abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread275367/pg1

seems very likely to me to be a hoax (or a Tavistock experiment, maybe more probable).

ET visitors (in my opinion) just would not use that syntax or terminology. It's exactly the style of communication that persists in many channeled messages to this day. And (I'm afraid) as best as I'm able to see, many reported channeled messages are simply the manifestations of experimental high technology.

SOME are real, of course. But the problem, as always, is sorting out what is real from what is not.

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

I'd love to see you guys interview Charles Hall (if he's still around?)

Secondly, You don't have a really good summary of Henry Deacon's information in one place.

Third, I liked the little clip you made of Stephen Basset at the Barcelona conference. I realised that such little snippets of short summarised info could be a good way to get

1) We'd love to talk to Charles Hall (and Kerry has talked with him privately before). His wife functions as a bit of a gatekeeper and at the moment he's not accessible. We do think his information is important and credible.

2) We're not in touch with Henry at the moment and will not do any more without his consent or agreement... but a Henry Deacon digest might be a good idea

3) Short summary videos: excellent idea, and we've been talking about this. Easily accessible summaries are urgently needed of all our information. But this would be a LOT of work.

Originally Posted by linkes

I would really really like to know why you an kerry have not interviewed Stewart Swerdlow?

We're looking forward to catching up with Stewart (for the first time) at the MKUltra Conference in Boston in February.

http://mkultraconference.com

Originally Posted by Real

I am wondering if you and Kerry have looked into the crop circle phenomeonon at all and if not - do you plan to?

I've never been really interested in crop circles. This is just a personal quirk. I HAVE had a weird experience with one... some of them are absolutely, definitely real. But quite a few are not. John and Mark at http://circlemakers.org (whom I've met) make some of these formations themselves (in a well-organized group), announce publicly that they do, and are amazed that no-one believes them.

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

Question #1
Could you reveal to us any inside information you may have in regards to where all the kids are going above and beyond what Alex Collier has stated in public?

Question #2
Based on what intelligence that you have gathered, do you foresee a possible scenario where humanity might get caught in the middle of an invasion by the Dows and also a battle between them and the Draconians?

Question #3
What is the real truth as to why the Light Warrior forum is being created?

Question #4
What kind of security issues do you deal with and how can we assist you and Kerry in those regards? Also since I signed up on this forum, I have to question if our IP addresses are safe since I have had numerous attacks including scaler waves?

1) Disappearing children: we can all speculate. Besides the more unsavory answers (which I'm afraid are very probably true) some of them MIGHT be going to underground bases, and others off-planet. This has to be possible.

The most extraordinary notion came from Henry Deacon/Arthur Neumann who hinted quite heavily to us that some of the children were being taken to a future Earth (about 6,000 years in the future, he said) which was 'barren'. This he said, was the only one of FOUR major alternative timelines which did not have a good ending.

We believe he was serious and we have not heard this kind of information from anyone else. Our thoughts were that it's so crazy that it might be true.

2) No information - sorry.

3) Strange question! Project Light Warrior is an initiative created by Kerry (I've mentioned it in an earlier reply to a question about it) and she asked for the forum to be created. I've not visited it and don't know if it's active. The project is in the draft stages at the moment - just ideas.

4) I'm not involved at all in the mechanics of running the forum, so I'm not in a position to assess security concerns - I really have no information at all.

What I WOULD say is that all forums are wonderful opportunities for the PTB to collect personal information, profile personalities, track communication patterns, etc. Nothing is secure at that level and there's no public sector protection against it. We all have to realize this.

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

The reason I ask you Bill is that in your interview of Dane (the ex-scientologist) there was a brief mention of the Galactic Patrol. Are they the same group or a different group...

Different Group.

Originally Posted by Odiwan

I was wondering if you had any plans to interview Dolores Cannon? I have recently come across her work and find it very informative.

I was also wondering if PC had any plans to visit Australia again? I would love to see you guys in person.

And I second the request for an elaboration on your contact/abduction - [also from Kriya]

1) Dolores Cannon - Kerry would very much like to. I enjoyed Dolores' 22 October interview on C2C, and 100% agree with her perception of a lot of new or fairly new arrivals on this planet as 'volunteers'. I read 'Jesus and the Essenes' - fascinating book - and her information about Nostradamus is also intriguing and plausible.

2) I loved Australia and would love to visit again. The issue is cost/logistics. We have some very good friends there - and I felt TOTALLY at home. I have one close friend who is seriously urging me to relocate there. I have always been tempted.

3) My abduction account is also in our interview with Arjan Bos:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jwOsc3h3Vfk

More later - best wishes to all - Cheers, B

[Awelion]

Seek knowledge.

Seeking knowledge you will receive everlasting love.

Principles:
Love
Joy
Peace
Faith

Actions:
Humility
Kindness
Mildness
Goodness

Ask why?

Infinite creator is One.

You are a representation or likeness of One.

One communicates via a conscious mind.
Act according to your conscience.
Prayer opens consciousness directly.
Pray to the One infinite creator for direction and wisdom.

[eleni]

I have a question.

Leo Zagami claims we have been duped by the UFO movement and ET's are really demonic entities.

What is your take on this?

Mine is that there exists both ET's and interdimensional good and bad guys and Leo has been fed what they want him to believe to keep the *picture view* confined.

[Surial]

Hello Bill,

It has been a while since we last communicated. The last time we communicated was when I was a Mod for Avalon. I hope things are going well for you. I have always respected you and your work. I look forward to seeing more positive productive interviews with you and Kerry.

With so much going on we could chat about unlimited possible events and paranormal activity. For example, I am very aware that I am a Starseed born on a gateway day. Much of the information I receive comes from my higher self in a higher dimensional reality. But let us beam down to Earth and get to some good topic discussions.

I am always doing research on Earth history and our origins. I have been dabbling in the Anna Hayes material. I find Anna Hayes very interesting and full of knowledge and wisdom. If you haven't already, I recommend you watch her videos on Youtube.

Have you ever considered doing an interview with Anna Hayes? If you ever did, that would be an astonishing interview. But be warned that lady is packed full of information. She talks kind of fast. And maybe you should consider playing a leading role in the interview process. That would be an interesting twist.

Are you aware of an ET force coming in to clean up our mess and rid the planet of tyranny? If so, you can PM me. We don't want to scare the folks here. Or you can just say, yes or no. lol

There is much activity going on with the vortexes appearing along with many reports of ufos. Are many of these sightings coming from Earth bound Humans? What is your opinion?

Have you seen the video of the Brazilian man reporting that the Pleiadeans landed and were testing for dimensional frequency readings to make a golden path appear to a portal? This is a rare video... hold on...

It is an older video but I vibe with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHcChdKWh-M

My connection with the Pleiadeans are quite strong. So if you have any information regarding them please share.

This is good for now. Like I said I could go on forever. I hope you and Kery have a good holiday Season.

Peace,
Kevin (Suriel, Surial)

[eleni]

Surial- scroll up to earlier post from Bill- Bill said Kerry is in touch with Anna and has an interview scheduled so that's great news for all of us Ashayana/Anna Hayes work fans!

[Surial]

Thanks eleni. I look forward to that interview. Bill maybe you should ask about the stellar activation event and the stargate at the center of Earth. I am also interested in the Wingmakers material. The time capsule is quite interesting.
So it looks like we are all on the same path afterall.

[sjkted]

Hi Bill,

Lately, I've been thinking more and more about the ascension issue. It seems like at the beginning PA/PC was inclined twoards the Bill Green "groundcrew" concept of self-organized communities that ban together, share resources, technology and knowledge and create some type of a workable sustainable lifestyle, as there won't be a fiancial system that anyone can depend on.

On PA (as well as some of the other 2012-related forums I watch), some people are of the opinion we will just ascend into 4D/5D space, and thus won't have to worry too much about practical things like food and shelter. As a skeptic, it's unfortunate that most of this info is channeled/intuitive as it is not completely possible to authenticate the source.

Over the last few years, I've been split between these two views. I've known for a while that the world economy was about to implode and that it won't be possible to repair. One thing I haven't been able to shake is the intuition that there will be some type of ascension, although it's hard for me to conceptualize whether it would be as if humanity as a whole ascends in that we learn to work together without violence, develop free energy, and remove the Illuminati from power and replace them with a system of equality. The alternate scenario is some type of individual ascension where some of us make it to a new earth, others stay behind, and the majority of people choose to incarnate elsewhere.

This latter scenario sticks in my mind as I've observed that there seem to be a large variance in the personal evolution of people on this planet. It seems there are a minority of people who are aware and have open minds, are spiritually aware and developed, and are doing what they can to manifest a better world. And then, there seems to be a majority who don't get it, don't want to hear it, and are completely attached to the status quo that is being fractured day by day.

I'm curious to hear your personal views on the endgame. Do you have any insider information on or from the people promoting 2012 as personal ascension? The sources that come to mind are Drunvalo Melchizedek, the insiders for Maya prophecy, and the Cosmic Awareness Consciousness (www.cosmicawareness.org).

I appreciate all of the time you have put into PA/PC and for stopping to answer our questions.

-- sjkted

[Contact-E]

Dear Bill;

I really enjoy the job you and Kerry do. As many have stated (About them selves) I've e-mailed you before but have never heard back, so I am glad you opened this thread. You will have to forgive me if I ask questions that have been already ask and or are thought of as stupid.

#1. Have you guys ever thought of talking to some one on camera about the truth behind the Gander crash ?

#2. In some past interviews it was brought up that some people have what's known as throw away DNA, but that its thought that its really left over Alien DNA ? I was wondering on what your take is on the thought and idea that at least some if not all people are known to have two sets of vocal chords, and why that is ?

#3. Also I've watched the new Jesse Ventura tv show, and I believe the three of you should get together and do a interview as his tactics on the Harrp, and 9/11 show I believe meld well with yours.

[Bill Ryan]

Hello, All:

Apologies for not getting to the forum yesterday. I'm working my way through all questions in sequence. Easy to miss something, so please re-post if necessary.

Again, some replies have been brief - I hope you can understand - and I'm using this as an opportunity not just to clarify with a brief 'yes' or 'no, sorry', but where I can with a little added value and context.

Thanks also to all those coming back (or who have been there all the time!) saying hello personally here. Very much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Tyler Macmillan

Have you considered having a plan or protocol in place to keep the Camelot idea/work alive in the event that both of you are compromised by a third party like LRH was? I know this is strongly implied in the pledge, but I'm talking about something more concrete, like an emergency succession plan.

This is a completely excellent question and I have no neat answer.

It's unlikely that we'd be shot in the back of the head (messy and attracts way too much attention) or suicided (the pledge handles that). If I were a PTB Camelot enemy I'd create problems for us that get us fighting with each other terminally or unable to continue our work in other ways (logistical, financial, legal) that look like normal human stuff that 'just happens'.

We have a bit of a back-up team and massive general support among hundreds of close allies who have got to know us well - but no understudies as such.

We could each continue Camelot alone - so there is reduncancy there, like a two-engined plane able to cross the Atlantic on one if needed. But at the moment if we were both disabled I think the whole project would be archived.

Originally Posted by Cyaneyed

I wondered if you'd share your opinions on Indigos, their origins, whether you've met any (aside from Boruska of course), and whether someone could be an indigo without realising? Also if you would recommend any names or sources that you trust for more information on indigos, that would be fantastic.

Bonus question-what's your opinion of Michael Tsarion's work, and would you be interested in interviewing him?

1) Indigos: I'm not personally clear whether they're a different kind of human being, a different kind of soul (e.g. from elsewhere or elsewhen), or just a generic term for newcomers who are happily and freely surfing on the wave of the increase of consciousness that is definitely here and building.

The presence of Indigos and Crystals is one of the most important reasons why I do not believe any catastrophe or wipe-out will occur.

If that was predestined or unavoidable or sitting there on some fixed future, they wouldn't have come here. (And neither would I, or probably any of you.) I talk about this in my Freedom Central interview.

2) Tsarion: yes, would love to talk with him.

Originally Posted by Hiram

Considering how few interviews James [WingMakers] has ever done...this is a real honor for PC that he spoke with you. Why do you think he did so?? Was the door left open for any future correspondence from James???[/I]

We were blown away too. Kerry was in touch with James way back (before Camelot) and has the rights to a possible WingMakers movie. (No money involved. James just gave Kerry the rights.) Kerry has never actually met him - no-one has.

James is a Camelot follower like many are out there. We have a huge invisible audience (a million visitors every 30-33 days) and only hear regularly from a very small % of these people. That blows us away too when we realize who's following and appreciating our work.

Originally Posted by 9ofclubs

My question is what you think about what William Cooper said about, indirectly, Jordan Maxwell? He seemed to be under the impression that he was part of the "mystery school" people.

We respect the work of Bill Cooper and pay tribute to him on our site here:

http://projectcamelot.org/cooper.html

We do know that he had inflated his past and his credentials (John Lear and Rich Dolan talk about this) but that doesn't minimize his importance in the alternative community. I read Beyond A Pale Horse when it came out in late 1991 (I'd pre-ordered a copy and I remember my excitement the day it arrived, just before Christmas) and Cooper was instrumental in shaping my thinking at that time when I was in my late 30s.

Don't quote this out of context (please!), but depending on what you mean by "mystery school" I'd say that yes, Jordan is at his core a mystery school researcher and that he would say that there was a lot of truth and wisdom in ancient philosophy and metaphysics that has since been twisted by the Dark Side and used for its own ends.

An interesting snippet: Earlier I was asked a question about Hidden Hand's information, and I replied that we'd been contacted by someone who told us that HH's information was 90% accurate but deliberately contained 10% falsehoods.

This person who contacted us belonged to a group we'd never heard of before and which I can find no information about on the internet. He was 100% a good guy and we both liked him a lot.

He took us out to dinner and told us that he was breaking ranks as he was "forbidden" (he stressed that twice) to talk to outsiders. The reason he respected our work was because he recognized that we were genuine truth-seekers and didn't seek to make any money out of the information we learned. He was able to get away with his code break because he was very senior in his group and he took full responsibility for his decision to talk to us.

He described his group as a [my paraphrase] an ancient but still-active "benevolent counterpart of the Illuminati". He confirmed that not all the information was lost in the Great Library of Alexandria and that in fact much of it was still intact. I can't tell you how much this intrigued me.

This encounter (which was not recorded) was beyond fascinating and this is one of many projects we're following up. The relevance of this anecdote is that not everyone associated with "mystery schools" is bad.

The following questions from The Guy are so excellent, focused and intelligent that I've largely kept them intact and not abbreviated them. (Please no-one else take this as a personal slight!)

Originally Posted by TheGuy

1. What is the name of the fish whose oil(mentioned in one of your recent interviews) can be used to decalcify the pineal gland?

Skate Liver Oil.

One source is here:

http://www.greenpasture.org/retail/?...kate-liver-oil

(no commercial interest - just info)

Originally Posted by TheGuy

1.1 Are you aware of other methods for decalcifying the pineal, or otherwise unlocking "psychic" abilities using similar methods, or the parts of the body necessary for producing such abilities?

No personal knowledge or expertise.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2. You have spoken to whistleblowers who know a lot about certain secrets, one of these is "remote viewing", it's pretty obvious to anyone who's seriously researched this that the declassified material is severely watered down. If you know anything about it, can you comment about non-watered down versions of what was/is developed during/after declassification? Specifically, methods to practice RV realistically/accurately, as opposed to watered down paper methods. (Your recent interview with the Scientologist mentions what I consider real "RV" is, actually leaving the body or bi-locating to "view" something)

We were told by Peterson that the only book that really tells the truth about RV was the original one (Psychic Warrior) by David Morehouse.

http://amazon.com/Psychic-Warrior-Am.../dp/0312964137

I have it in writing from Christopher (Kit) Green) that the military RV program was never closed down and instead went "underground" using drugs, electronics, hypnosis, etc to augment the abilities. Joe McMoneagle, Ed Dames and the others were never involved in that and never knew anything about it. I asked Kit whether Pat Price really died, but never got an answer. That (absence of an answer) might not mean anything - I don't know.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.1 Can you recommend any books, authors, people, authorities, or otherwise point people in the right direction to developing these abilities? (For example, REAL Scientologists that can clear, methods to unlock abilities, tech ppl can make themselves, etc.)

Not really, I'm afraid. see above re Psychic Warrior. Free Zone Scientology only focuses on freeing one from charge from the past (and other interfering sources in present time) and doesn't seek to augment abilities per se.

The purpose is to free the person as a spiritual being... and then the interesting abilities sometimes come as a by-product.

The best analogy is rehabilitating someone who's been in a wheelchair for years and can now walk once more. That doesn't mean that can run, do gymnastics, or climb mountains. That takes separate training. But the potential is there once the problem is handled that stopped him from being able to use his legs.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.2 Have you tried to interview James Casbolt, who seems to have been trained in a method of Telepathy to specifically communicate with a certain species of "ET", and who mentions the method being based around altering his ability to "vibrate" (or something like that)at a certain frequency mentally? (This is similar to "RV" and may be useful)

2.2a If you do interview him, can you ask him to explain this training in useful terms for "lay persons" so the general populace can train themselves in this ability?

No. I need to be careful and responsible about what I say here. We have not met or spoken with James Casbolt, and have corresponded with him once or twice very briefly. He's definitely had real experiences and is not just making this stuff up.

Meanwhile, some of his reported information - as best as I can see - and I may be wrong - comes from the internet and is relayed information from elsewhere. It SEEMS to be a real grab-bag of material that's quite complex and needs care to analyze. We have not spent very much time doing this so are not experts in his story or his information. That's an important caveat.

But: it's also hard to understand how (if he was as close to this information as he states) he would be permitted to talk freely. Of course, I do know that people also say that about Camelot and about people like Bill Deagle. The short answer is my first - that we have not met him and would be interested to do so.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.3 Are you aware of any technology that enhances or provides this ability(RV)? You mention looking glass and RV in some interviews or it's mentioned by others, but it's never really discussed in depth. If you are aware of it, can you comment on it?

2.3a Can you provide more details that are practically applicable to your audience? (Actual tech, practices, techniques, etc. that ppl can do)

Please see all answers above...

Originally Posted by TheGuy

As an aside to this line of questions, I'd like to say that I appreciate the amount of information currently being shared to the world from whistleblowers and etc., but I would also(as I'm sure others would as well) appreciate applicable/practical techniques, schematics for devices, ideas, practices, etc. that can be used to turn things around. I don't feel that knowing truth is going to magically turn things around, things need to be done, changed, altered, choices need to be made, lifestyle changes, etc. Unlocking a natural ability like "RV" would be a very good first step to freeing humanity. If you can access all information, no truth can be hidden from anyone, and an honest world can start to form. I know it's asking a lot of these whistleblowers, but it's not only necessary to share truth of things like what's secretly going on, but to also share WHY and HOW when/if possible. I wholeheartedly disagree with doom and gloom and assumptions based on limited perceptions of reality that assume there's nothing we can do.

This is Kerry's idea behind Project Light Warrior: to help create a [kind of] cadre of modern Jedi Knights using a variety of resources.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4 Many mind controlled ppl have come forward, they almost all mention psychic training, and they almost all seem to be reluctant to accept that parts of them have been unlocked, at least from what I see of their public presentations. I don't agree that the methods used to unlock these abilities are right, but I do appreciate the fact that they have been given something others never even dream about, abilities beyond normal slavebot status. Wouldn't it be beneficial not only for them, but everyone else, if they accept those abilities and try to learn more about them and share how to develop or use them or in some other way make use of the negative experiences to in some way benefit humanity? I realize this question is kind of on the line, but I also realize this line is really avoided, and it needs addressed. We've all had negative experiences in our life, maybe not all of us were subjected to extreme circumstances like some of the mind controlled, but those negative experiences can teach us about our limits or lack thereof. It makes me die a little inside, every time I see an Ex-(insert something here, satanist, vampire, mind control victim, etc.) abandon everything related to the negative experience as if it's bad just cause some evil ppl used it for evil purposes, and they give it all up and just turn back to a "normal" mundane life as a "Christian"(yet another form of slavery these days, a religious model used often to control minds and limit abilities) or something.

I do agree with you. There's a huge amount of information here and many who have been abused close the door (understandably) to everything. Our friend Henry Deacon is among them.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4a Have the mind controlled considered the idea of teaching others how to not be mind controlled, and/or to control their own minds to do "superhuman" things?

This might be one of the themes for the coming 13-14 February MK Ultra Conference in Boston.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4b Negative/evil training cannot be the only way to empower a human, as evidenced by your recent Scientology interview, King Fu Masters, Anastasia from the Ringing Cedars Series of Books, etc. Can any of your whistleblowers comment on methods that don't involve trauma based mind control to unlock abilities or technology that's non-invasive, or etc.?

Yes - this technology exists and is not trauma-based. Jake Simpson http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html had his reading speed increased to between 80,000-100,000 words per minute. He still has quote a lot of this ability many years later. He has NOT told us how this was trained/gained. He walks a careful tightrope with us and knows exactly what he can and can't say and how far he can go.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4c In your opinion, after interviewing all of these ppl and doing all this research, is being a human with fully developed expression and abilities merely as simple as letting go of all the negative things that stop us from that, or do we actually need to do something for our inherent abilities to manifest?

See above re the analogy of the person in the wheelchair who can now walk again. They can't run yet, or dance, or do much else. But the potential is now there, and needs training and application.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.4c.1 As an example, in the Anastasia books, she was raised in what could be considered optimal conditions. (In nature, no limits, no negative influences from city, chemicals, etc.) Now, obviously not all of us are born into, or raised in optimal conditions, so the question is, would one raised in less than optimal conditions revert back to "pristine" state if X were accomplished? X could be letting go of all negative aspects of life(not eating junk food, living in city, etc), or it could be practicing some spiritual practice, or it could be anything really.

I'm not sure that the conditions are a major part of the situation. (The Anastasia story is a modern myth, by the way -this was not a real person. But the story and message are very valuable as an inspiration.) But of course living in a 'clean' environment (no pollutants or toxins or stress and - importantly - no electro-smog) must help quite a lot.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.5 You have a lot of experience interviewing different types of ppl, have you noticed certain patterns or cycles in your careers as interviewers related to mind control that you can comment on? (Either trauma based, or more mundane, like spiritual/religious, etc.)

No patterns that I can think of - good question.

Originally Posted by TheGuy

2.6 Do Kerry or yourself(Bill) work on developing abilities like "RV", and if so, what progress or usefulness have you had with it or how has it helped your quest to share truth with the world?

We both have some natural and gained psychic abilities that of course help. We don't sit down and go through RV protocols (targets, envelopes, pen and paper, etc).

Originally Posted by TheGuy

3. Taking everything you've been exposed to into consideration, what do you think(opinion, logical, or intuition) honestly, the next step for humanity is really supposed to be? (Are we supposed to experience "growing pains" with negative events, are we supposed to recognize the bs for what it is and rise above it, are we supposed to transition to another state of being(maybe not physical), etc.)

I think it's an increase of consciousness that's finally intended (and may or may not succeed, but it stands a good chance) of breaking the chains of the controllers.

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More later if at all possible (but might well be tomorrow) -

Regards to all and very best wishes, B

[Bill Ryan]

Juat realized that I really need to expand on TheGuy's last question. He asked

Originally Posted by TheGuy

3. Taking everything you've been exposed to into consideration, what do you think(opinion, logical, or intuition) honestly, the next step for humanity is really supposed to be? (Are we supposed to experience "growing pains" with negative events, are we supposed to recognize the bs for what it is and rise above it, are we supposed to transition to another state of being(maybe not physical), etc.)

I'd replied:

I think it's an increase of consciousness that's finally intended (and may or may not succeed, but it stands a good chance) of breaking the chains of the controllers.

Let me add a little:

1) Are we supposed to experience "growing pains" with negative events?

Yes - I think that's part of it (remember that we're all on a training course here)

2) Are we supposed to recognize the bs for what it is and rise above it?

Certainly - part of it also

3) Are we supposed to transition to another state of being (maybe not physical), etc?

Not in my opinion. Growth and awareness, absolutely. Breaking through into a new way of being responsible Stewards of Planet Earth (and of one another) - absolutely. Extraordinary personal experiences by the ton, absolutely.

But Ascension, Transcendence, Evolving to the 4th or 5th dimensions or densities (whatever that means) - that makes no sense to me in any way. No personal offense is meant to anyone here for whom those ideas are valuable and dear.

In my personal opinion, the 'Ascension' myth is a new New Age religious belief system that is rather close to the "God will save us all" belief. "God" doesn't do that (take a look at history) and neither will the ETs, Angels, or anyone else.

We all signed up for this incarnation, knowing that it was going to be a wild ride, and we have to handle it on our own (albelt with quiet and subtle mentoring, coaching and software upgrading from ET friends, and some ETs incarnated amongst us - for sure).

On 1 Jan, 2013, we'll still have to be handling the problems of the world, which will be very real, solid and problematic still. But we may be past the worst of it by then and many things might look more hopeful.

There's a huge amount of rebuilding to do. Has anyone here ever spent time in Africa or India?

I've traveled in Africa a lot. (I spent much of the first 8 years of my life there, and have returned frequently.) Tell those guys that they're going to ascend out of their poverty and disease and hunger. We need to take responsibility for the mess we have all created in this world.

There's a VAST clean-up to do that may take a generation or more. This is where the real learning and growth will take place. We all need to face what we have done.

So: I suspect we've all got our own work cut out for quite a while yet. The Indigos are still coming into the world - they chose their timing perfectly, and won't have missed any party.

The idea, though, is to make it POSSIBLE for the reversal of geopolitical trends to start. I believe this possibility is opening now.

Very best wishes - B

[illuminate]

wow, very well said Bill!
I totally agree with the need for taking responsibility for ALL of our actions.
the little voice inside me has repeatedly been saying just that!
thank you so much for sharing!

[panpravda]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

There's a huge amount of rebuilding to do. Has anyone here ever spent time in Africa or India?

Hi Bill ...

When I was 20 I spent a year in Sudan as a volunteer Electrical Engineering and English teacher in Wad Medani. It was during that time that I saw and experienced things that gave me my moral compass for the rest of my life. I saw children with nothing, absolutely nothing, no parents, no clothes, no food. I saw the hovels of poor families, erected to lean against the walls surrounding the palatial houses of families that had comparatively everything they could need in that environment - yet those relatively rich did nothing for their obviously poor countrymen. These experiences culminated as the trigger in my life to search for the truth of what we really are, and what we really could be.

Pan.

[TheChosen]

Those have been my same thoughts for the last few years, that we are not facing a mass destruction type of event because all those 'indigos' wouldn't come here just to be obliterated by some tsunami wave. (I've actually been repeatedly told in the astral that it is only because of them/us that such a tsunami is not happening)

But I disagree on the direction this will take. I expect in few years the DNA of our body computers to mutate to a sufficient degree so the powers such as telekinesis/levitation/matter manipulation can be activated.. which is what passing into so called 4th density is all about.

This is when the indigos step in with the 'know how' of using those powers in a creative manner. Having indigos in a world where these powers remain inactive is like (using Bill's setting) having the best dancers in the world incarnating on a planet where people are born paralyzed from the weist down. They would never volunteer for such a waste of ability when they could be expressing their full potential elsewhere, the same as they most likely wouldn't voluntter for a tsunami future.. In such a case a relatively much less involved souls would be coming in, ones with experience mainly in the physical 3D world... which is clearly not the case. All the indigos seem to be mainly adept at manipulating energy and are actually having huge problems with physical existence


Still I am actively preparing in 3D for a mass exctinction event. There is nothing to say that they all incarnated with the knowledge that only 5% will 'survive'... just because death means nothing to an advanced soul.. and 5% is more than a good reason if that means the evolution of humanity onto the next stage. And of course, we all know spectacular plans can fail spectacularly.. and that includes the plan for human evolution.

I am sorry for this interruption. I know this is a topic only for questions but I felt the need to share my thoughts on this subject (ascension and what it means) which is I feel THE most important subject we need to be dealing for the next few years.

[Frank Samuel]

Bill thank you for sharing your wisdom. A few years back I met some white children from south Africa who wanted to abolish apartheid with all their hearts, I was so impressed with the incredible maturity they posses at their young age. The rest as they say is history, Nelson Mandela became the president and forgave all of the oppressors. I am a Father of 4 children and I hope that like the children from south Africa that I met so long ago they inherit a heart of compassion to help our fellow man. This mess we have created will take at least a couple of hundred years to clean up. Is a fantasy to think that these problems will resolve themselves without us earthlings taken responsibility to recreate our world. I am sure that like planet earth there are plenty of planets who need help ,in the future it will be our turn to return the favor to our neighbors in the stars

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Bill thank you for sharing your wisdom. A few years back I met some white children from south Africa who wanted to abolish apartheid with all their hearts, I was so impressed with the incredible maturity they posses at their young age. The rest as they say is history, Nelson Mandela became the president and forgave all of the oppressors. I am a Father of 4 children and I hope that like the children from south Africa that I met so long ago they inherit a heart of compassion to help our fellow man. This mess we have created will take at least a couple of hundred years to clean up. Is a fantasy to think that these problems will resolve themselves without us earthlings taken responsibility to recreate our world. I am sure that like planet earth there are plenty of planets who need help ,in the future it will be our turn to return the favor to our neighbors in the stars

Hello Frank, almost exactly what was posted in another thread. I too see earth as a model of collapsed dualities, and part of the mopping up action in this universe in which we will play a part.

Gnosis

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by panpravda

Hi Bill ...

When I was 20 I spent a year in Sudan as a volunteer Electrical Engineering and English teacher in Wad Medani. It was during that time that I saw and experienced things that gave me my moral compass for the rest of my life. I saw children with nothing, absolutely nothing, no parents, no clothes, no food. I saw the hovels of poor families, erected to lean against the walls surrounding the palatial houses of families that had comparatively everything they could need in that environment - yet those relatively rich did nothing for their obviously poor countrymen. These experiences culminated as the trigger in my life to search for the truth of what we really are, and what we really could be.

Pan.

That was also the path of Gautama Buddha. I share this path with you.

Gnosis

[Malletzky]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

The presence of Indigos and Crystals is one of the most important reasons why I do not believe any catastrophe or wipe-out will occur.

Now, I wasn't aware that you feel that way. You know, it's really nice and important to see that you, as a public person, do say that doom and gloom is not likely to happen. This will encourage more and more other out there to search for their truth and finaly understand that WE do not need to fear.

Thanks for this statement...and btw, sorry for not saying hello timely

So now...hello Bill , thanks for your work!

with respect
malletzky

[Dantheman62]

Hi Bill, I'm new here so um where's the bathroom?
Can I get an ashtray over here...geez
Did you get a new hat?

[Surial]

The limited view that God is external and sitting on a throne to save us all is not a realistic perspective. God is in us all. For God to save us we must save ourselves. Dimensional realities are very real and part of Quantum physics. This is real science and not a belief system.

Matter is at a very low vibrational state. Other transcendental realities exist in higher frequencies of energy vibration. Physical reality is even more real in higher densities. To not understand this concept is only limiting your potential.

Regardless of what you believe is true, there are karma circumstances to overall behavior patterns of this race. It is not about choosing sides, creating cults, and dwelling in the muck. Duality, polarity, and everything in between are universal reactions to movement of your spiritual expression. You are alive and you feel everything. And if comprehension of feeling is ignored relying on only processed analytical information, then you are missing the whole aspect of existence.

It is the combination of spirit, body, and mind that gives you balance on a real true comprehension of what is happening. Every person is on a different level of discovering the aspects of the Creator within all of us. Some do not comprehend ascension. Others do. But Ascension is a natural process of spiritual development lifetime after lifetime. You are on a journey.

Whether you choose to believe your path or not is your right. But either way, you will have to deal with the universal laws. These universal laws apply to everyone regardless of belief. Illusion or non-illusion does not apply to energy transformation from one form to another. God is within us and all around.

A camera angle is still a camera angle. But the overall production of the movie has its different actors. And each actor plays a specific role.

When the movie is finished - Ascension - Now it is time to make another movie.

You can look at ascension as a collection of wisdom. The more love you share the more light energy you collect. The closer you get to God the more of this Source information becomes a part of you. It is all our inheritance to fulfill our higher expression of the source in this low 3d reality. But is also your right to hide in the shadows and stay away from the light.

For those of you that do not want to ascend will be left behind of your own choosing to work out your karma. And this is also respected.

However, whether you like it or not, Earth is in pain and wants to ascend away from the abuse that has been laid upon her. If you want to be a part of her, then you must resonate with her. This is also the part of the ascension.

If you choose to dwell in darkness, then the darkness you shall have.

Either way, there are many perspectives of ascension that can fit into your conception. If you are an earth bound adventurous type that refuses to believe in spirituality then enjoy your adventures from that perspective. But keep in mind, Indiana Jones eventually realizes that love is the most important thing in the end.

In conclusion Ascension is a process not an event.

[Cyaneyed]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

1) Indigos: I'm not personally clear whether they're a different kind of human being, a different kind of soul (e.g. from elsewhere or elsewhen), or just a generic term for newcomers who are happily and freely surfing on the wave of the increase of consciousness that is definitely here and building.

The presence of Indigos and Crystals is one of the most important reasons why I do not believe any catastrophe or wipe-out will occur.

If that was predestined or unavoidable or sitting there on some fixed future, they wouldn't have come here. (And neither would I, or probably any of you.) I talk about this in my Freedom Central interview.

2) Tsarion: yes, would love to talk with him.

Thanks for the answers and insights, Bill. Much appreciated. I'd follow up/ask more but this thread is (happily) well and truly inundated and I don't want to take up any more of your time.

Regards,

- Cyaneyed