Bill Ryan's thread

Firstlook · 12-13-2009, 01:13 PM

Hello Bill,

Is there any specific direction you and Kerry are interested in taking Camelot? Meaning, With all the wide area you two cover, is there a point where you feel it would be easier to focus on certain issues more then others? I ask this because you two do so much work and I worry about it sometimes. lol.

Anyways, Keep it up. I Feel connected very strongly to your efforts.

qbeac · 12-13-2009, 04:01 PM

Questions:

- Please, Bill, do you know where we could get the “original” Ron Hubbard’s material (texts, technics, etc.), but not the newer, altered and "watered down" one?

- If so, could you post the links to Ron Hubbard’s “original” material in this thread or in the Project Camelot web site (*1)? That would be a good reference point for people to find it.

(*1) Sorry, Bill, I did not see your comment on Post 292, pag. 12. In any case, the link you indicated from a Russian server does not seem to work, this one:

http://lrh.myftp.org/

Bill, do you know of any other link with the “original” Hubbard material? Is it available in E-mule, Ares, etc.?

- Are there still active groups of people who follow-practice the “original” Ron Hubbard’s findings? If so, is it possible to contact them? (*2)

(*2) Second thought: In case there are active groups, are they still being persecuted by the PTB? If so, I imagine they might not want to identify themselves. So, is it possible to practice Hubbard’s findings all by ourselves just by reading his instructions and without the help of “teachers”?

- Would it be possible to somehow “reactivate” Ron Hubbard’s “original” project to wake the world up (I mean before his project was neutralized-destroyed by the PTB)?

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Dear Bill, thanks for all your replies, we really appreciate it.

I’ve almost finished reading (it’s long) your interview with “Dane Tops”, where he explains the amazing adventures of Ron Hubbard (from the original Church of Scientology) trying to escape from the constant attack of the PTB as well as the impressive discoveries he made in relation to human consciousness, recovery of all our lost memory, astral travelling, healing, etc.

The interview is impressive, it is one of the best ones. And if what Dane Top says is true, it could change the world for the better (let’s hope so).

I encourage everybody to read it, it’s a must read! So, I congratulate you and Kerry for it. Well done. This is the link:

An interview with 'Dane Tops':
The man who blew the Church of Scientology wide open
http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html

MaikaNz · 12-13-2009, 04:45 PM

This looks like a front for another scamtology recruiting drive.

www.xenutv.com

L. Ronald Hubbard Jr (aka Ronald Edward DeWolf) also had this to say, 'My father only knew how to do one thing; that was destroy them [people who oppose him]', and 'I can say flat that 99 percent of what my father wrote about his own life is false.'

Gerry Armstrong is one of the most important people in Scientology’s history. As L. Ron Hubbard’s personal archivist, he unleashed the documented evidence that shows Hubbard lied about virtually every aspect of his life.

I'm watching you Ryan

-Anonymous (We the People)

ypestis · 12-13-2009, 04:48 PM

Hi Bill,

First my gratitude to you and Kerry for running Project Camelot.

I would like to quote something from Keylontic Science of Ashayana Deane about Free Energy..

"IN a nutshell, all forms of electrical current on thisplanet make use
of the distorted electrons and EM feild generated on this planet by
the 'Caduceous' implant network', also known as the 'death seal'.

so called 'free energy' technologies that are coming as bleed through
from the UFO scene and related 'inspired' physics are black hole
technologies, the EM feilds they produce are shona feilds and are
extremely detrimental to Organic Environment and life forms.

Dont be fooled- official disclosure- for whatever spurious reason
would not be a good thing at this time...."

Now I have been researching this subject and couldn't find any evidence in the keylontic science yet that there is a way for making free energy devices that are positive.

So my question is what do you hear from your whistleblower physicists about the harmfullness of free energy "magnetic" motor devices.

Thank you

MaikaNz · 12-13-2009, 05:08 PM

For those wanting to know about scientology, its practices, its policies, its victims and finally about the tyrant of a conman that founded it, head to...

http://www.xenu-directory.net/

I lost a childhood friend of 20 years to this cult. I watched her change from a beautiful, caring and loving woman to a glazed eyed fanatic that exploded at me for asking her to do some background research on scientology. Unfortunately the indoctrination and brainwashing had settled in. She had disconnected from me.

Disconnection is the Scientologist practice of severing ties between a Church of Scientology member and the friends, colleagues, and family members who disapprove of, or criticize Scientology practices; that is, "sources of disinformation (entheta)", or Potential Trouble Sources (PTS), or Suppressive Persons (SP), that interfere with their progress in the organization. The practice was said to have ended in 1969 and then reinstated in 1983.

At least I'm not a victim of the 'Fair Game' policy.

MaikaNz · 12-13-2009, 05:20 PM

Hiya everyone,

I have been lurking around the forum since late 2008, taking in information, resonating with some theories and philosophies and generally just smelling the roses, but when this scientology topic came up and had to step in and say something as it is a heart wrenching experience for me. Please don't be fooled. Educate yourselves from the websites that I have provided.

12-13-2009, 01:13 PM	#1
Firstlook Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 161	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hello Bill, Is there any specific direction you and Kerry are interested in taking Camelot? Meaning, With all the wide area you two cover, is there a point where you feel it would be easier to focus on certain issues more then others? I ask this because you two do so much work and I worry about it sometimes. lol. Anyways, Keep it up. I Feel connected very strongly to your efforts.

12-13-2009, 04:01 PM	#2
qbeac Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 44	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Questions: - Please, Bill, do you know where we could get the “original” Ron Hubbard’s material (texts, technics, etc.), but not the newer, altered and "watered down" one? - If so, could you post the links to Ron Hubbard’s “original” material in this thread or in the Project Camelot web site (1)? That would be a good reference point for people to find it. (1) Sorry, Bill, I did not see your comment on Post 292, pag. 12. In any case, the link you indicated from a Russian server does not seem to work, this one: http://lrh.myftp.org/ Bill, do you know of any other link with the “original” Hubbard material? Is it available in E-mule, Ares, etc.? - Are there still active groups of people who follow-practice the “original” Ron Hubbard’s findings? If so, is it possible to contact them? (2) (2) Second thought: In case there are active groups, are they still being persecuted by the PTB? If so, I imagine they might not want to identify themselves. So, is it possible to practice Hubbard’s findings all by ourselves just by reading his instructions and without the help of “teachers”? - Would it be possible to somehow “reactivate” Ron Hubbard’s “original” project to wake the world up (I mean before his project was neutralized-destroyed by the PTB)? --------------------- Dear Bill, thanks for all your replies, we really appreciate it. I’ve almost finished reading (it’s long) your interview with “Dane Tops”, where he explains the amazing adventures of Ron Hubbard (from the original Church of Scientology) trying to escape from the constant attack of the PTB as well as the impressive discoveries he made in relation to human consciousness, recovery of all our lost memory, astral travelling, healing, etc. The interview is impressive, it is one of the best ones. And if what Dane Top says is true, it could change the world for the better (let’s hope so). I encourage everybody to read it, it’s a must read! So, I congratulate you and Kerry for it. Well done. This is the link: An interview with 'Dane Tops': The man who blew the Church of Scientology wide open http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html Last edited by qbeac; 12-13-2009 at 05:07 PM.

12-13-2009, 04:45 PM	#3
MaikaNz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11	Re: Bill Ryan's thread This looks like a front for another scamtology recruiting drive. www.xenutv.com L. Ronald Hubbard Jr (aka Ronald Edward DeWolf) also had this to say, 'My father only knew how to do one thing; that was destroy them [people who oppose him]', and 'I can say flat that 99 percent of what my father wrote about his own life is false.' Gerry Armstrong is one of the most important people in Scientology’s history. As L. Ron Hubbard’s personal archivist, he unleashed the documented evidence that shows Hubbard lied about virtually every aspect of his life. I'm watching you Ryan -Anonymous (We the People)

12-13-2009, 04:48 PM	#4
ypestis Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 13	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hi Bill, First my gratitude to you and Kerry for running Project Camelot. I would like to quote something from Keylontic Science of Ashayana Deane about Free Energy.. "IN a nutshell, all forms of electrical current on thisplanet make use of the distorted electrons and EM feild generated on this planet by the 'Caduceous' implant network', also known as the 'death seal'. so called 'free energy' technologies that are coming as bleed through from the UFO scene and related 'inspired' physics are black hole technologies, the EM feilds they produce are shona feilds and are extremely detrimental to Organic Environment and life forms. Dont be fooled- official disclosure- for whatever spurious reason would not be a good thing at this time...." Now I have been researching this subject and couldn't find any evidence in the keylontic science yet that there is a way for making free energy devices that are positive. So my question is what do you hear from your whistleblower physicists about the harmfullness of free energy "magnetic" motor devices. Thank you

12-13-2009, 05:08 PM	#5
MaikaNz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11	Re: Bill Ryan's thread For those wanting to know about scientology, its practices, its policies, its victims and finally about the tyrant of a conman that founded it, head to... http://www.xenu-directory.net/ I lost a childhood friend of 20 years to this cult. I watched her change from a beautiful, caring and loving woman to a glazed eyed fanatic that exploded at me for asking her to do some background research on scientology. Unfortunately the indoctrination and brainwashing had settled in. She had disconnected from me. Disconnection is the Scientologist practice of severing ties between a Church of Scientology member and the friends, colleagues, and family members who disapprove of, or criticize Scientology practices; that is, "sources of disinformation (entheta)", or Potential Trouble Sources (PTS), or Suppressive Persons (SP), that interfere with their progress in the organization. The practice was said to have ended in 1969 and then reinstated in 1983. At least I'm not a victim of the 'Fair Game' policy.

12-13-2009, 05:20 PM	#6
MaikaNz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hiya everyone, I have been lurking around the forum since late 2008, taking in information, resonating with some theories and philosophies and generally just smelling the roses, but when this scientology topic came up and had to step in and say something as it is a heart wrenching experience for me. Please don't be fooled. Educate yourselves from the websites that I have provided.