Info about me (sorry for all the disclaimers).

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

You seem to have missed my point. My point was that I did not come to this forum holding a Bible in the air, to declare that everyone is doomed to hell. I came to this forum, because I have personal experiences to share -- and I am trying to share them. That doesn't mean that I don't "believe in hell", and it doesn't mean that (in the right forum and format) I wouldn't discuss it, but I did not come here to do that. I did not come here as a preacher. I did not come here to declare that everyone is going to hell.

ie: I don't walk around 24/7 declaring people are going to hell. I don't walk into a car dealership and say: "Hey I'm religious - YOU'RE GOING TO HELL! Say, do you have any cheap cars today"? There's a time and place for everything.

I know you don't. I've seen how you avoid the word, but everyone can see that it is implied in your warnings.

I'm just trying to understand why you're warning us then?

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

Why should we fear? Let me answer this way: You have made a whole big lead up how you've associated "ME" with your horrid upbringing of some crazy evangelical church that declared that you're "GOING TO HELL" and now you want me to answer to it? Well I am not going to! Go see the church that made you upset. Don't take it out on me.

That's not what I did. You're jumping to conclusions.
I don't want you to solve my problems, I'm just trying to nail down what you're really on about.
I don't want you to answer for anything except what I asked, and you just avoided.

I don't need an answer from you now, since it's just become obvious.
Yes your answer is Hell.
So, despite you wanting to avoid the word, that's something I will never accept. I know you now and don't need to bother you any more.
Thanks for your time and your responses.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

I know you don't. I've seen how you avoid the word, but everyone can see that it is implied in your warnings.

I'm just trying to understand why you're warning us then?

Ok,. You're going to hell. You're a bad man. You're onto me.

Can you leave me in peace now please, so I can post in peace?

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

That's not what I did. You're jumping to conclusions.
I don't want you to solve my problems, I'm just trying to nail down what you're really on about.
I don't want you to answer for anything except what I asked, and you just avoided.

I am here to talk about my experiences and to contribute to the forum. I honestly don't know how else to say it. But you wont let me, You're ADAMANT I (while interrupting my serious thread and posting REM songs) that you're going to prove what I am 'REAAALLY" heeeere fooooor.. Ooooooh! I better be careful you might "catch me out!" Listen: You've got a chip on your shoulder about what ever dogma was bashed into your head, and you;re trying to make me explain for it. End of story.

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

I don't need an answer from you now, since it's just become obvious.
Yes your answer is Hell.
So, despite you wanting to avoid the word, that's something I will never accept. I know you now and don't need to bother you any more.
Thanks for your time and your responses.

I AM NOT HERE FOR A RELIGIOUS DEBATE! THINK WHAT YOU WILL!

Just go and think it "somewhere else" - PLEASE!

[WarriorServant]

Ok the last two pages of this thread have turned into a religious debate and me trying to explain that I am not here to debate religion (again)..

So what do I do?

I can tell you I have no interest in the thread anymore..

Lets just talk about what ever.

Does anyone else have any religious hatreds that they'd like me to apologize or answer for? I'm all ears.

[Gevaudan]

It seems that everything I have read on this thread is thus far 'par for the course' in terms of the struggle we all face in transcending dualistic modes of thinking. As long as we perceive opposites of any kind, we will cling to one or the other and defend our position with ferocity.

This is yet another obstacle that builds walls between our common ground and weakens our collective potential. It is quite evident in all aspects that religious/spiritual preference is subjective and dependent upon the individual's life experience. What tastes good to me may taste awful to others. It doesn't make it right or wrong. It is what I prefer--that's it.

Let's focus on commonality instead of trying to make ourselves feel better about our personal preferences.

The true master knows he/she is always a student...

Peace

G

[14 Chakras]

Nice words G, Welcome to the Forums ~ !

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

that you're going to prove what I am 'REAAALLY" heeeere fooooor.. Ooooooh! I better be careful you might "catch me out!"

I wasn't trying to get you to say anything except what you really believe.
I'm not here to mock you. I never have mocked you. I don't want to be responsible for creating a negative environment on this forum - and I don't want to be made out as if I am.

Yes, all I wanted to know is where you're really coming from. I could sense it, but you seemed to be denying it, so I needed to ask more explicitly.

I think you're avoidance of the issue is what makes it seem to you that you get badgered so intensely on forums like this.

I'm not going to push you any further on it, please continue your story.
Don't give up your own thread.

As I also said before, I am genuinely interested to hear your personal experiences...

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

I wasn't trying to get you to say anything except what you really believe.
I'm not here to mock you. I never have mocked you. I don't want to be responsible for creating a negative environment on this forum - and I don't want to be made out as if I am.

Yes, all I wanted to know is where you're really coming from. I could sense it, but you seemed to be denying it, so I needed to ask more explicitly.

I think you're avoidance of the issue is what makes it seem to you that you get badgered so intensely on forums like this.

I'm not going to push you any further on it, please continue your story.
Don't give up your own thread.

As I also said before, I am genuinely interested to hear your personal experiences...

Then send me a PM - and stop posting things that have NOTHING to do with the thread. Didn't you read all the disclaimers all over the joint?

[Gevaudan]

I know exactly what you're talking about. This has happened to me most of my life. To this day when I begin to feel/hear the humming sound I think, "Oh God...Not again..."

Even though most of my personal experiences have been positive, I have had some that were not so pleasant. Thus, when I begin to feel the 'presence' in the room with me, I pull the covers over my head like a child hiding from the boogie man.

I have had images of being aboard a craft, but have never seen an entity that looks anything but human. In many cases I am in a room with many other people and we are training for something. On one particular occasion, I was holding hands with three other people around the apex of a pyramid (our backs to the pyramid with our arms outstretched above our heads) and were chanting a specific frequency.

Trippy indeed....

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Gevaudan

I know exactly what you're talking about. This has happened to me most of my life. To this day when I begin to feel/hear the humming sound I think, "Oh God...Not again..."

Even though most of my personal experiences have been positive, I have had some that were not so pleasant. Thus, when I begin to feel the 'presence' in the room with me, I pull the covers over my head like a child hiding from the boogie man.

I have had images of being aboard a craft, but have never seen an entity that looks anything but human. In many cases I am in a room with many other people and we are training for something. On one particular occasion, I was holding hands with three other people around the apex of a pyramid (our backs to the pyramid with our arms outstretched above our heads) and were chanting a specific frequency.

Trippy indeed....

To be perfectly honest, most of the images I have in my head are devoid of any "entity" at all -- human or otherwise. However, I do have images in my head (memories?) of more that one type of creature. I have also seen human looking beings also. It is very intriguing to me, because I CANNOT {{{STAND}}} the New Age Movement (because I was once a reader of it's stupid philosophies) and they say a lot about "Pleiadeans" and some dude named "Ashar".

What bothers me is that when I look at the "depictions" and "images" online, of what a Pleiadean is meant to look like (including the "blue" attire, that they're often depicted as wearing), I REMEMBER them! BUT (and I REALLY "hate" to give all these people any credibility), my experience with those "beings" was one of the very few "positive" feelings I've had. See, I know that evil can "pretend" to be good. I am NOT (in any way, shape or form) second guessing that I MET them. What I am second guessing is whether or not the love I felt was real. I am NOT gullible and I am NOT a person to simply trust something becomes it "seems" right. But, I guess one could say (if they believed such a thing) that I have met Pleiadeans.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

To be perfectly honest, most of the images I have in my head are devoid of any "entity" at all -- human or otherwise. However, I do have images in my head (memories?) of more that one type of creature. I have also seen human looking beings also. It is very intriguing to me, because I CANNOT {{{STAND}}} the New Age Movement (because I was once a reader of it's stupid philosophies) and they say a lot about "Pleiadeans" and some dude named "Ashar".

What bothers me is that when I look at the "depictions" and "images" online, of what a Pleiadean is meant to look like (including the "blue" attire, that they're often depicted as wearing), I REMEMBER them! BUT (and I REALLY "hate" to give all these people any credibility), my experience with those "beings" was one of the very few "positive" feelings I've had. See, I know that evil can "pretend" to be good. I am NOT (in any way, shape or form) second guessing that I MET them. What I am second guessing is whether or not the love I felt was real. I am NOT gullible and I am NOT a person to simp[ly trust something becomes it "seems" right. But, I guess one could say (if they believed such a thing) that I have met Pleiadeans.

It sounds like your getting validation in these images. I don't buy into all they say either...but it can still be a validation

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by BROOK

It sounds like your getting validation in these images. I don't buy into all they say either...but it can still be a validation

I think the reason I am so skeptical of any non human being is because (and believe me, I really understated the abuse I've suffered), I have been through some VERY tough "experiences" -- experiences that changed my whole life and view and reality.

I don't simply trust someone / something because it sows up and made me feel all warm and fuzzy. I also take a LOT of other things into account. I am not simple minded - believe me.

I take into account that maybe what I had contact with was evil pretending to be good. I take into account that Pleiadeans might be ALL demonic (period) and that demons use that form to create a world perception that they are "the good guys". I take into account that they might very well have been "Angels", because they were human looking and I know God has sent angels to the Earth before.

See, I am or one to look at a few images online and declare: "HEY! It's THEM! I know them! They are the Pleideans!" -- how do I know I have not been fooled? I don;t know anything -- really. All I know is what I experienced. What they were / who they were / where they came from / why the visited me .. I'm still none the wiser.

[Bilko]

Hi Warriorservant

What you have been describing sounds very familiar to me. I am a long time lurker here but decided to join recently.
Please take a look at this thread from my home from home. its not by me as i was led to believe that vast areas of the astral have been cleared now so people can project without harm or fear.

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ighlight=bilko

Anyway, i hope the thread is of some use to you. It is entitled Astral combat by a poster that seems to be displaying a lot of the symptoms of injury etc as you.

i projected the first time about a year ago and took a nose dive into my bedroom carpet, not knowing how to stop lol. My body started holding it's breath as if i was going under water so i was brought back.
Then i was startled/semi attacked on another projection by a nasty entity and haven't tried again since.

Past/future ( yes future ) life regression sounds like it might be beneficial. i don't know where you are based but i can recommend the college of psychic studies in London from first hand experience. ( won't post link, need to read the rules lol ). They have several practitioners there that i think might be able to help in many areas.

I'll leave it there for now, good luck.
Ian