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Old 12-01-2009, 02:48 PM   #1
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Wow this is a shocker!

I don't know who/what to believe anymore.

I have decided to believe ONLY in what I experience personally in my own life, what I create and what I choose.

This way I am not involved in other people's karmic experiences. It is my own perceptions, choices and thoughts that make up my unique experience of MY life.


Thanks for posting seashore
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:16 PM   #2
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Wow this is a shocker!

I don't know who/what to believe anymore.

I have decided to believe ONLY in what I experience personally in my own life, what I create and what I choose.

This way I am not involved in other people's karmic experiences. It is my own perceptions, choices and thoughts that make up my unique experience of MY life.


Thanks for posting seashore
You're welcome.

I have been thinking alot about this lately, too.

I guess what we need to do is take it all in, and then test it big time!!
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:46 PM   #3
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I am shocked to see this posted here.

Last night I listened to an old interview of Len Horowitz on The Veritas Show afterwards I went to his site

I have mixed feelings about Len but I do know that TPTB have their own little "plants" out here to start trouble to get other people from not starting their own.

For instance......The Truthers are all backers of theirs. They can't be trusted and thats a fact !

I wont put my trust in him any longer. I am sticking to my intuitions from last night as this article cinched it for me
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:03 PM   #4
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For instance......The Truthers are all backers of theirs.
You're talking about 9-11 truthers?

Tell me more...
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:27 PM   #5
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You're talking about 9-11 truthers?

Tell me more...

According to Judy Woods PH.D who is bringing another case regarding the 9/11 says the Truthers are trying to sway people to accuse the government of using bombs to bring down the towers when in all actuallity it was brought down by EMF (HARP) She has another lawsuit going in NY and if my mind is correct it will be against the contractors. You see if someone goes to trial on a LIE then you can't charge them again. Double Jeopardy, so the Truthers are the liers and they are plants

Here is what Mel has written before her interview

Millions of people don't doubt that the 9/11 stories communicated to us to date are not true. Did you know that there is missing rubble from the towers? Did you know that it is impossible for the towers to fall at essentially the speed of gravity? Did you know that there was a level three (3) hurricane right off of the coast of N.Y. [Erin] at the time of 911 that left right after the towers demise that was not reported to us? Did you know that all sorts of unaccountable/unexplainable issues with cars, fire engines, and others motor vehicles that had nothing to do with the towers happened? Is it possible for steel beams to vanish into powder or ?? Dr. Wood provides answers to these and many more questions.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:56 PM   #6
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According to Judy Woods PH.D who is bringing another case regarding the 9/11 says the Truthers are trying to sway people to accuse the government of using bombs to bring down the towers when in all actuallity it was brought down by EMF (HARP) She has another lawsuit going in NY and if my mind is correct it will be against the contractors. You see if someone goes to trial on a LIE then you can't charge them again. Double Jeopardy, so the Truthers are the liers and they are plants

Here is what Mel has written before her interview

Millions of people don't doubt that the 9/11 stories communicated to us to date are not true. Did you know that there is missing rubble from the towers? Did you know that it is impossible for the towers to fall at essentially the speed of gravity? Did you know that there was a level three (3) hurricane right off of the coast of N.Y. [Erin] at the time of 911 that left right after the towers demise that was not reported to us? Did you know that all sorts of unaccountable/unexplainable issues with cars, fire engines, and others motor vehicles that had nothing to do with the towers happened? Is it possible for steel beams to vanish into powder or ?? Dr. Wood provides answers to these and many more questions.
At first I thought I recognized that name Judy Woods, PhD but, no, I see this is someone else:



This is very interesting.

9-11 truth is important because the "war on terror" and the Patriot Act taking away our freedoms are based on it.

Here is a new thread for us to post anything else we have on establishing 9-11 truth and what we the people should be doing to support the truth movement:

"Where Are We on 9-11 Truth?"

Thanks for the info.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:15 PM   #7
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Dears,

I'm very disappointed, lately ... you know Alex Jones, etc

We supposed to trust no one, just we trust God and ourselves. There is so much "noise" out there, that even is not suggested to listen what has to say, one or another.

I think "their" strategy was to bring us so many conradictory informations, so mind boggeling hypothesis, mixed with parts from truth, that the overa mix is confusing us. We do not have even the basis to understand what is happening. We have no point of support for the lever, to move the world...

I think they managed the total confusion. So many lies, so many disinfo... I will listen to no one and I will give credence to no one! I will try to use my heart to know what might be truth and what not! My mind is not useful anymore. So God help us!
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:03 PM   #8
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Dears,

I'm very disappointed, lately ... you know Alex Jones, etc

We supposed to trust no one, just we trust God and ourselves. There is so much "noise" out there, that even is not suggested to listen what has to say, one or another.

I think "their" strategy was to bring us so many conradictory informations, so mind boggeling hypothesis, mixed with parts from truth, that the overa mix is confusing us. We do not have even the basis to understand what is happening. We have no point of support for the lever, to move the world...

I think they managed the total confusion. So many lies, so many disinfo... I will listen to no one and I will give credence to no one! I will try to use my heart to know what might be truth and what not! My mind is not useful anymore. So God help us!
I think I know how you feel, artvision!

What to do?

I'm thinking we still have to listen to the leaders. And watch the videos. And read the articles. And read the books. How else are we going to get information? We can't pick it out of thin air...

But hopefully, together, we're getting smarter and smarter discerning fact from fiction. Connecting the dots at the grassroots level. Evaluating the information together rather than accepting it just because it comes from a non-mainstream media source.

We need lots of this:

And for the truth.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:11 PM   #9
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I think I know how you feel, artvision!

What to do?

I'm thinking we still have to listen to the leaders. And watch the videos. And read the articles. And read the books. How else are we going to get information? We can't pick it out of thin air...

But hopefully, together, we're getting smarter and smarter discerning fact from fiction. Connecting the dots at the grassroots level. Evaluating the information together rather than accepting it just because it comes from a non-mainstream media source.

We need lots of this:

And for the truth.
Thanks Seashore!

We must to not lower our guard and trying to decode their "signals". Let's use some more
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:46 PM   #10
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maybe with his 'knight-hood' he was able to get into places
where the 'normal' ones, can NOT go

perhaps that is why, he knows so much !!!

something, perhaps to ponder
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:10 PM   #11
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maybe with his 'knight-hood' he was able to get into places
where the 'normal' ones, can NOT go

perhaps that is why, he knows so much !!!

something, perhaps to ponder
Yes, I thought of that myself but then I look at how much freedom he has and how well his two daughters are doing in their own business. Not that it's a crime but I have to ask, How did that happen to someone who is supposely fighting TPTB's.

I know some very hard working people that are threatened constantly and would not even consider any ties with the Jesuits. Does anybody know any others that are doing this well ?
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