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Old 11-30-2009, 01:20 PM   #1
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Thanks Jonathan... not long to wait then for the outcome of the speech!!!

lets hope he puts his money where his mouth is....which he hasn't done since day one!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlamuxwdbwI

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Old 11-30-2009, 01:55 PM   #2
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Thanks Jonathan... not long to wait then for the outcome of the speech!!!

lets hope he puts his money where his mouth is....which he hasn't done since day one!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlamuxwdbwI

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Old 12-01-2009, 12:39 PM   #3
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Just found this...Mr Wilcox about Disclosure ...

DISCLOSURE: IS AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT IMMINENT?

It's like the greatest football game in human history. Everybody wants to know how it's going to turn out.

Dates have been leaked and/or suggested. Some have now already passed. The clamoring has already begun.

As I've said before, it's very likely that the initial dates were merely to test the waters and see how the system responded.

The real date will probably never be given -- the event will simply take place. Television time will be called. An announcement will be made. And the signs are clear that we do not have long to wait.

For that reason, it is already time to celebrate.

After so many years of secrecy and denial, the truth is about to be set free.

We will never be the same. There will undoubtedly be drama and turmoil when the announcement is made, but the scope and power of the changes it will create -- the seeking it will induce in so many -- is incalculable.

further reading ... very interesting read ...
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...cement-updates

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Old 12-01-2009, 12:55 PM   #4
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fingers and toes crossed, wonder how the religious communities will react? when alian life is fully in the open?
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Old 12-01-2009, 01:23 PM   #5
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fingers and toes crossed, wonder how the religious communities will react? when alian life is fully in the open?
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Yes I often think about that Boudy…

This is just touching the surface and I am sure as others would appreciate any further input regarding this question.

Just briefly and putting it simply. I suppose all religions would realize that they have been introduced to suit various factions or groups on this planet to be able to manipulate there own evil agenda. ie: if you have small groups agreeing to disagree, it is much easier for manipulation against each other. Thus the manipulator can pull the strings any which way he choses!! Thus creating wars and feeding the war machine ect etc..

Without Religions and Borders we would have no WARS...

The realisation of this would draw all the religions together and we would be one, so to speak. Humanity will rise. The world would change for the better.

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Old 12-01-2009, 02:48 PM   #6
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Official disclosure will eventually happen not because it is planned by someone, somewhere, but because the number of people who believe it with maintained focus and great enthusiasm is greater every day. The people will make it come to be reality sooner or later. How, by who and when is a matter of human mass consciousness… No need to give date, place and name, just respect and trust the creative process...

Now, for those who see any alien as threat without distinction, you should reconsider… For those who see aliens as friendly without distinction, you should also reconsider… The extremes are often a lack of perspective…

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Old 12-01-2009, 02:52 PM   #7
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fingers and toes crossed, wonder how the religious communities will react? when alian life is fully in the open?
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Religious groups reactions will be intresting yes. I think they will try and reconcile their beliefs and an alien presence. Rework the history books if you will to incorporate the new world

Think also though, those whos' beliefs are we evolved from monkeys . They are going to have to come to terms with the possibility that we are just the PRESENT race on the planet and that there were others before us. Other civilisations that were just as advanced.

Maybe one group were monkey people
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:42 AM   #8
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Yes its going to be very interesting to see how people react to this...very!!

Just found this... Some groups are saying that we are looking at Disclosure after Obama's speech acceptance (Nobel) ?!!

Whatever will be...we are getting closer...exciting times indeed.

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The post-Thanksgiving holiday season marks the beginning of a series of important windows of time for extraterrestrial disclosure by the Obama administration. The first time window came and went without any announcement. This has led to some skepticism that disclosure is imminent at all. Multiple independent sources, however, continue to insist that extraterrestrial disclosure is imminent. All that is required is the right opportunity by the Obama administration to disclose the reality of extraterrestrial life to the world. The main political constraint on a disclosure announcement is the November 2010 mid-term Congressional elections. A disclosure announcement would need to come well in advance of this, no later than the middle of 2010, when the partisan political environment becomes very heated as Republicans earnestly seek to regain Congressional seats. An official disclosure announcement would need to be made in a bipartisan manner and environment that does not favor either of the major U.S. political parties. This means that any time from the present up to early 2010 is the optimal period when official extraterrestrial disclosure will occur.

Second Time Window begins with Obama Nobel Peace Prize Speech - December 10
Based on my own independent sources and exopolitical analysis, my favored time window begins soon after President Obama officially accepts the Noble Peace Prize on December 10. The period immediately after his acceptance speech up to the end of 2009, is a critical time for three main reasons. First, the level of partisan political debate is historically low during the holiday season which ends soon after New Year’s Day. Most importantly, it is possible to make an announcement with least social disruption due to the increased comfort levels of people during the holiday season when difficult political news can be disclosed with minimal public fallout. This observation and possible disclosure timing was first pointed out by exopolitical activist Stephen Bassett in his November 4 appearance on the syndicated national radio show, Coast to Coast AM.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honol...ial-disclosure

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Old 12-02-2009, 11:10 AM   #9
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He certainly didn't slip it in at the end of his Afghanistan speech last night.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #10
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He certainly didn't slip it in at the end of his Afghanistan speech last night.
Well I really wonder if in eventuality it will come from him??

Will they (ptw) let him...thats the problem!!

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Old 12-03-2009, 05:52 PM   #11
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Just recieved this from India in the Machine...

You are invited to participate in a global experiment to manifest First Contact with benevolent extraterrestrial races. The experiment is in response to a request by extraterrestrials to give a `soul based' response to the question, "Do You Wish That We Show Up?" http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/change_the_world.htm .

The global First Contact experiment is based on the concept of the 'Isaiah Effect' popularized by the author Gregg Braden. The key idea in the 'Isaiah Effect' is that by visualizing a desired event and fully immersing oneself in positive emotions of the event as though it had occurred, a powerful energetic impulse is created that helps manifest the desired event in the concrete physical realm. The emotions of celebration, joy, love and gratitude thus act as powerful engines for 'thought creation'.

Due to over 50 years of secrecy over the extraterrestrial presence, and the tremendous damage done to human societies and the biosphere by the suppression of extraterrestrial technologies, creation of 'black budgets', and intimidation/silencing of officials/witnesses revealing the truth, there is an urgent need to end all secrecy over the extraterrestrial presence. Consequently, a world wide First Contact event where extraterrestrials 'show up' is needed to bring openness, transparency, truth and democratic decision-making to the way the extraterrestrial presence is officially managed. The actual details of the Global First Contact Experiment are as follows:

Visualization: Imagine luminous extraterrestrial ships suspended high over every city of the planet for a period of seven days and nights. The ships perform light displays that indicate universal greetings of peace, joy and fraternity. Ships play natural sounds such as whale songs indicating universal acknowledgement for cetaceans as an intelligent life form that has long communicated with extraterrestrial races. The visualization should be done in a way that elicits positive emotions such as joy, love and celebration. The visualization can be modified in ways that best inspire individuals to celebrate First Contact as a new era for humanity. The visualization will be performed at 10 pm in every time zone thereby creating an energetic wave of consciousness that sweeps around the planet. The length of the visualization should be between 5-10 minutes.
Date & Time: Sunday, December 21, at 10 pm (local time).

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Old 12-03-2009, 06:33 PM   #12
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cant see it myself not until there is an economic collapse or war...
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:49 PM   #13
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CNN News: High level Government and military officials meet in Washington to discuss the matter of UFOs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Dcy5bQPI0

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Old 12-07-2009, 03:01 PM   #14
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I absolutely, positively, without any doubt, believe in extraterrestrials and them having visited Earth, past or present. But official government disclosure? - my humble opinion is that the day the government announce something is the day I'll be sure its a lie. I'm so confident that ETs exist, I know they exist, I've had more than one encounter experience, but if any government (especially U.S) suddenly come out and tell us we have brothers to meet then I'll know there's gotta be a twist to it.

According to Von Braun (or more accurately, according to Carol Rosin, who receieved this information from Von Braun), the last card of deception to be played in the 'alien card'. In which the government announce a 'threat' from extraterrestrials. And undoubtedly in this scenario the propaganda for increased weaponry and decreased civil liberties will really start taking place. I hope this is wrong, but I'm confident of the information from Miss Rosin.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:18 PM   #15
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I absolutely, positively, without any doubt, believe in extraterrestrials and them having visited Earth, past or present. But official government disclosure? - my humble opinion is that the day the government announce something is the day I'll be sure its a lie. I'm so confident that ETs exist, I know they exist, I've had more than one encounter experience, but if any government (especially U.S) suddenly come out and tell us we have brothers to meet then I'll know there's gotta be a twist to it.

According to Von Braun (or more accurately, according to Carol Rosin, who receieved this information from Von Braun), the last card of deception to be played in the 'alien card'. In which the government announce a 'threat' from extraterrestrials. And undoubtedly in this scenario the propaganda for increased weaponry and decreased civil liberties will really start taking place. I hope this is wrong, but I'm confident of the information from Miss Rosin.
Yes I have thought of that ... BUT what if she is an under cover agent giving out dis-info from the Goverments in order for us to go against the ET's...

Sooo lets say they (ET's) disclose and we turn our backs on them thinking this is a 'red herring'...Double bluff scenario!!...

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Old 12-07-2009, 04:05 PM   #16
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The more I look into this business the more convinced I become that any true disclosure must come from the direction of the UFO phenomena itself and not from human governments. The phenomena has always operated in self imposed secrecy therefore it must dispel the secrecy itself. Human governments may "disclose" that there is an alien presence on the Earth but can they really tell us why they are here or what they want? If there are as Clifford Stone has said, "57" different species visiting the Earth, how much can our governments possibly know about them all?

The best we can hope for from our governments is a simple acknowledgment of the existence of an alien presence. However, in doing so they open themselves up to criticism and investigation on their previous handling of the matter that they must naturally find untenable. It's just a brain numbing problem.

I think many people envision some Star Trek-like galactic community out there however I think we should be very careful how we superimpose human societie's conceptualizations on what may actually exist. I suspect that UFOs and related phenomena are actually part of a much stranger reality-set than we currently are able to imagine or are able to string together in some sort of story or narrative that makes sense to us as human beings. I could be wrong of course.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:10 PM   #17
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Yes I have thought of that ... BUT what if she is an under cover agent giving out dis-info from the Goverments in order for us to go against the ET's...
Hi viking,

I think you might have misunderstood Carol. If anything, she's the one whose been warning us from the government eventually convincing us that all ETs are bad and are a 'threat'. She is not saying that we should fight ETs or something like that, quite the contrary. She even has devoted her life to this, she has an organization that tries to stop the U.S and/or other governments from weaponizing space. I can't remember what its called.
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Hi viking,

I think you might have misunderstood Carol. If anything, she's the one whose been warning us from the government eventually convincing us that all ETs are bad and are a 'threat'. She is not saying that we should fight ETs or something like that, quite the contrary. She even has devoted her life to this, she has an organization that tries to stop the U.S and/or other governments from weaponizing space. I can't remember what its called.

Oooops... My apologies Majorion .... *keep your eye no the ball viking*

We all make mistakes...

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Old 12-07-2009, 04:39 PM   #19
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Oooops... My apologies Majorion .... *keep your eye no the ball viking*

We all make mistakes...

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Its no problem at all my friend, you are very kind.
BTW, I found Carol's website, link below. Her organization is called:

The Institute for Cooperation in Space (ICIS)
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:44 PM   #20
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So far, instead of Full disclosure, they have shown us Full Monty...
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:51 PM   #21
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So far, instead of Full disclosure, they have shown us Full Monty...


And it will continue that way! Disclosure won't happen anytime soon, because there's too many underlying circumstances involved. It's far too complicated.
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:49 PM   #22
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And it will continue that way! Disclosure won't happen anytime soon, because there's too many underlying circumstances involved. It's far too complicated.
Hi Dan,

I understand what you're saying and I sometimes feel the same way too.
But then I remember something Bashar (an alleged channeled ET) is stressing all the time:

Circumstances don't matter ! State of being matters ...

If we let it go ... it surely won't manifest at all.

Remembering Bashar's words have made me refocus from time to time ... wise words indeed.

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Old 12-07-2009, 05:56 PM   #23
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Circumstances don't matter ! State of being matters ...
If we let it go ... it surely won't manifest at all.
Yeah good point! If we let it go it certainly won't happen, but there's so much involved in disclosure, from history, to military, to governments, to technology and so on. It's almost like they're already in too deep to have disclosure happen, like a big lie that's been going on too long to tell the truth now! We'll see I guess.

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Old 12-08-2009, 02:53 AM   #24
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Yeah good point! If we let it go it certainly won't happen, but there's so much involved in disclosure, from history, to military, to governments, to technology and so on. It's almost like they're already in too deep to have disclosure happen, like a big lie that's been going on too long to tell the truth now! We'll see I guess.
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Old 12-08-2009, 03:22 AM   #25
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The way I see it...I don't need the US Gov't to tell me anything. To 'disclose' anything. Nor do I want to 'hear' religion tell me 'aliens are ok' ... no need for the UN to rule over anyone about anything. I know what I know; I believe in what I believe after my personal research. We are all connected ~ good and bad ~ the LIGHT is taking over, the PTB are FALLING, & yes, there will be much turmoil to go thru (it's always darkest before the light) but all we need is positivity/love/and to send that out to EVERYONE...even to the PTB - because the Entities that are monitoring us/watching us during this magnificent transition that Earth and all the inhabitants on it are going through right NOW...are doing so to assist us *without interfering with free will / they are witnessing this amazing transition and are in awe of it just as we are.

Let's not forget the Indigo's and the Rainbows, are here with us. That is NO coincidence. They are here to take us thru the transition as easily as possible. Everything that is to happen is for the good of all. We are priviledged to be here during this time. Peace, Love and light to all!
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