The most sickening article I've read recently!

Humble Janitor · 11-28-2009, 06:15 AM

Geez, I've never seen such pompousness and arrogance in any other thread on this site.

It's not a surprise, especially with the "useless eaters" comment.

So people buy too much or cook too much? IT HAPPENS. I'm thankful just to have anything to eat at all.

Should we ration food out of FEAR or should we work on our meal planning?

Swanny · 11-28-2009, 10:13 AM

Big problem with the western world is that people eat too much for each meal and also eat between meals????? No one needs a snack just eat 3 meals a day. Oh yea they have pudding as well as their main meal and then they wonder why they are fat

They also have become very lazy. There is a supermarket near me with a escalator that takes you up stairs, the moving pavement type. If you watch people going up it you will notice that the people that could use the most exercise are the ones that just stand on it and wait till they get to the top.

If people were to cut back on size of meals didn't eat snacks and got some exercise instead of sitting on their bums watch **** on tele they wouldn't need to consume so many resources which would make the world a much better place. Maybe then they could share food with others across the world.

I've also noticed that mums now cook separate meals for each of their kids. When I was a kid I my mum cooked one meal for all the family and we had to eat it all before we could leave the table

artvision · 11-28-2009, 10:58 AM

The most disturbing for me, is when I read these articles:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_hungry_seniors

If we are not respecting our seniors after a life of hardworking we are heading to disaster, no question about!

This is very disturbing for me, that people in their 70. 80's they should go to work, again, or lining for getting charity, because of need!

morguana · 11-28-2009, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Geez, I've never seen such pompousness and arrogance in any other thread on this site.

It's not a surprise, especially with the "useless eaters" comment.

So people buy too much or cook too much? IT HAPPENS. I'm thankful just to have anything to eat at all.

Should we ration food out of FEAR or should we work on our meal planning?

I think that the gluttony of our western is put into perspective when one conciders that 1 in 6 people are starving to death! That's right for evey 6 people in the world one is.....not just slighty peckish, or even underfed...but is dying from starvation
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Bou x

Jack · 11-28-2009, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Geez, I've never seen such pompousness and arrogance in any other thread on this site.

It's not a surprise, especially with the "useless eaters" comment.

Its called having a sense of humour my friend, you should try it sometime

Humble Janitor · 11-29-2009, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

Its called having a sense of humour my friend, you should try it sometime

What's next? A thread complaining about fat people?

How is this place any different than other internet forums/

Swanny · 11-29-2009, 11:51 AM

People eating more than they need to is wrong especially while others are starving.
Eating too much is as wasteful as throwing it in the bin.

morguana · 11-29-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote:

World hunger is projected to reach a historic high in 2009 with 1,020 million people going hungry every day, according to new estimates published by FAO on 19 June 2009.

http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news-...est+Stories%29

waste not want not......thats what making soup is about!
bou x

Jack · 11-29-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

What's next? A thread complaining about fat people?

Why not, there the ones eating all the food.

Dantheman62 · 11-29-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

Why not, there the ones eating all the food.

Doh! or should I say Dough! LOL

burgundia · 11-29-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

What's next? A thread complaining about fat people?

How is this place any different than other internet forums/

Actually being fat is not healthy.

Humble Janitor · 12-01-2009, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia

Actually being fat is not healthy.

Neither is being rail-thin.

Of course, as someone that has struggled with weight for most of my life, I let myself take things a little too personally. Even with thyroid medication, it's going to take another surge of willpower to get back to a healthy weight.

Swanny · 12-01-2009, 08:43 AM

If things go the way they say they might then no one will have the choice to be fat

artvision · 11-29-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

How is this place any different than other internet forums/

Other internet forums are not so lucky to have a Humble Janitor tell them how trivial they are, like we have! This is only thing saving our butts, here on Avalon!

Karen · 11-30-2009, 03:18 AM

There is enough food to go around if it were properly distributed! But TPTW will NOT have that!!! I'm surprised no one has mentioned this before on this thread. American farmers have even been paid to NOT grow crops. Control of food distribution is a great way for TPTW to control 3rd world countries. People who care send food to the hungry - but many times it does not even make it to the hungry - local corruption sees that it goes to other places or that it is even dumped.

What goes to waste in personal homes is nothing compared to waste in restaurants! I worked at delivering pizzas for a few months - at the end of the night - piles of pizza dough went into the garbage as well as other "expired" food. I was a sickening sight every shift I worked until close.

peaceandlove · 11-30-2009, 03:34 AM

U.S. Obesity Trends

Trends by State 1985–2008

Obesity is defined as a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or greater. BMI is calculated from a person's weight and height and provides a reasonable indicator of body fatness and weight categories that may lead to health problems. Obesity is a major risk factor for cardiovascular disease, certain types of cancer, and type 2 diabetes.

Download the State Maps
The prevalence of obesity is depicted in a PowerPoint slide presentation format. (25 slides total, PPT-1.42Mb)
This is also available as a text-only Acrobat file.(PDF-1.75Mb)

During the past 20 years there has been a dramatic increase in obesity in the United States. In 2008, only one state (Colorado) had a prevalence of obesity less than 20%. Thirty-two states had a prevalence equal to or greater than 25%; six of these states (Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia ) had a prevalence of obesity equal to or greater than 30%.

The animated map below shows the United States obesity prevalence from 1985 through 2008.

SEE HERE and MORE Statistics including Ethnic Obesity and Diabetes maps: http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html

Fat but not so happy: Southern counties lead U.S. obesity rates

11:09 am November 23, 2009, by Maureen Downey

I wish we could put health-oriented programs like Girls on the Run at every school.

Interesting story in the AJC today on the counties in the U.S. with the greatest obesity problems. It will be no surprise to anyone who has ever attended a county fair in rural areas to learn that the South tops the list.

The story states:

ATLANTA — The first county-by-county survey of obesity reflects past studies that show the rate of obesity is highest in the Southeast and Appalachia. High rates of obesity and diabetes were reported in more than 80 percent of counties in the Appalachian region that includes Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia, according to the new research from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The same problem was seen in about 75 percent of counties in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carolina.

I know that schools are called upon to solve all of society’s problems, but I think obesity is becoming such a large problem – excuse the unintended pun – that it can’t be ignored.

I think schools ought to partner with recreation and active living programs to launch elementary school running programs and fitness camps. My 10-year-old daughter attends a terrific track program after school called Girls on the Run, which takes place at a local public school but charges a fee. I would love to see programs like that for all kids based at every school.

Again, I don’t think we should ask school staffs to embrace this challenge but we certainly ought to use school facilities. I know there are costs, but it will be considerably less expensive to prevent childhood obesity than to pay the associated health bills later.

There is a link between obesity and lack of education, which is likely why the South and Appalachia always lead the lists. Educated people stay in better shape.

Perhaps, as we improve our schools we’ll see healthier lifestyles.

SOURCE: http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-bl..._schooled_blog

The cost of obesity in the United States
By Jodie Humphries | 11/23/09 - 10:21

The Cost of Obesity in the US

Obesity is described as the fastest growing public health challenge the nation has ever faced. In fact, if obesity rates continuing growing at the rate they currently are, by 2018 103 million American adults will be classed as obese.

With that figure in mind, the US is expected to spend $344 billion on healthcare costs attributed to obesity in 2018.

By 2018, obesity will account for more than 21 percent of healthcare spending, with a cost of $1,425 per person, which is a rise from $361 per adult in 2009.

Today, it is estimated that $79,438 million dollars is spent due to obesity in the United States.

CONTINUES with CHARTS and GRAPHS: http://www.executivehm.com/news/cost...united-states/

11-28-2009, 06:15 AM	#1
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: The most sickening article I've read recently! Geez, I've never seen such pompousness and arrogance in any other thread on this site. It's not a surprise, especially with the "useless eaters" comment. So people buy too much or cook too much? IT HAPPENS. I'm thankful just to have anything to eat at all. Should we ration food out of FEAR or should we work on our meal planning?

11-28-2009, 10:13 AM	#2
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: The most sickening article I've read recently! Big problem with the western world is that people eat too much for each meal and also eat between meals????? No one needs a snack just eat 3 meals a day. Oh yea they have pudding as well as their main meal and then they wonder why they are fat They also have become very lazy. There is a supermarket near me with a escalator that takes you up stairs, the moving pavement type. If you watch people going up it you will notice that the people that could use the most exercise are the ones that just stand on it and wait till they get to the top. If people were to cut back on size of meals didn't eat snacks and got some exercise instead of sitting on their bums watch **** on tele they wouldn't need to consume so many resources which would make the world a much better place. Maybe then they could share food with others across the world. I've also noticed that mums now cook separate meals for each of their kids. When I was a kid I my mum cooked one meal for all the family and we had to eat it all before we could leave the table Last edited by Swanny; 11-29-2009 at 11:47 AM.

11-28-2009, 10:58 AM	#3
artvision Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 328	Re: The most sickening article I've read recently! The most disturbing for me, is when I read these articles: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_hungry_seniors If we are not respecting our seniors after a life of hardworking we are heading to disaster, no question about! This is very disturbing for me, that people in their 70. 80's they should go to work, again, or lining for getting charity, because of need!

11-29-2009, 11:51 AM	#7
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: The most sickening article I've read recently! People eating more than they need to is wrong especially while others are starving. Eating too much is as wasteful as throwing it in the bin.

12-01-2009, 08:43 AM	#13
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: The most sickening article I've read recently! If things go the way they say they might then no one will have the choice to be fat

11-30-2009, 03:18 AM	#15
Karen Project Avalon Organizer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NE Oregon boondocks, USA Posts: 1,767	Re: The most sickening article I've read recently! There is enough food to go around if it were properly distributed! But TPTW will NOT have that!!! I'm surprised no one has mentioned this before on this thread. American farmers have even been paid to NOT grow crops. Control of food distribution is a great way for TPTW to control 3rd world countries. People who care send food to the hungry - but many times it does not even make it to the hungry - local corruption sees that it goes to other places or that it is even dumped. What goes to waste in personal homes is nothing compared to waste in restaurants! I worked at delivering pizzas for a few months - at the end of the night - piles of pizza dough went into the garbage as well as other "expired" food. I was a sickening sight every shift I worked until close.

11-30-2009, 03:34 AM	#16
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: The most sickening article I've read recently! U.S. Obesity Trends Trends by State 1985–2008 Obesity is defined as a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or greater. BMI is calculated from a person's weight and height and provides a reasonable indicator of body fatness and weight categories that may lead to health problems. Obesity is a major risk factor for cardiovascular disease, certain types of cancer, and type 2 diabetes. Download the State Maps The prevalence of obesity is depicted in a PowerPoint slide presentation format. (25 slides total, PPT-1.42Mb) This is also available as a text-only Acrobat file.(PDF-1.75Mb) During the past 20 years there has been a dramatic increase in obesity in the United States. In 2008, only one state (Colorado) had a prevalence of obesity less than 20%. Thirty-two states had a prevalence equal to or greater than 25%; six of these states (Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia ) had a prevalence of obesity equal to or greater than 30%. The animated map below shows the United States obesity prevalence from 1985 through 2008. SEE HERE and MORE Statistics including Ethnic Obesity and Diabetes maps: http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/trends.html Fat but not so happy: Southern counties lead U.S. obesity rates 11:09 am November 23, 2009, by Maureen Downey I wish we could put health-oriented programs like Girls on the Run at every school. Interesting story in the AJC today on the counties in the U.S. with the greatest obesity problems. It will be no surprise to anyone who has ever attended a county fair in rural areas to learn that the South tops the list. The story states: ATLANTA — The first county-by-county survey of obesity reflects past studies that show the rate of obesity is highest in the Southeast and Appalachia. High rates of obesity and diabetes were reported in more than 80 percent of counties in the Appalachian region that includes Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia, according to the new research from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The same problem was seen in about 75 percent of counties in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carolina. I know that schools are called upon to solve all of society’s problems, but I think obesity is becoming such a large problem – excuse the unintended pun – that it can’t be ignored. I think schools ought to partner with recreation and active living programs to launch elementary school running programs and fitness camps. My 10-year-old daughter attends a terrific track program after school called Girls on the Run, which takes place at a local public school but charges a fee. I would love to see programs like that for all kids based at every school. Again, I don’t think we should ask school staffs to embrace this challenge but we certainly ought to use school facilities. I know there are costs, but it will be considerably less expensive to prevent childhood obesity than to pay the associated health bills later. There is a link between obesity and lack of education, which is likely why the South and Appalachia always lead the lists. Educated people stay in better shape. Perhaps, as we improve our schools we’ll see healthier lifestyles. SOURCE: http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-bl..._schooled_blog The cost of obesity in the United States By Jodie Humphries \| 11/23/09 - 10:21 The Cost of Obesity in the US Obesity is described as the fastest growing public health challenge the nation has ever faced. In fact, if obesity rates continuing growing at the rate they currently are, by 2018 103 million American adults will be classed as obese. With that figure in mind, the US is expected to spend $344 billion on healthcare costs attributed to obesity in 2018. By 2018, obesity will account for more than 21 percent of healthcare spending, with a cost of $1,425 per person, which is a rise from $361 per adult in 2009. Today, it is estimated that $79,438 million dollars is spent due to obesity in the United States. CONTINUES with CHARTS and GRAPHS: http://www.executivehm.com/news/cost...united-states/ Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-30-2009 at 03:43 AM.