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Old 10-15-2009, 03:58 AM   #126
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This paragraph seems to align with one of the 'ramblings' in the Handbooks from George Green to a tee, but without identifying any particular group or race...

"... The Andromedan Council recently participated in a conference at an
undisclosed location, which included representatives from Sirius B and the
Orion Empire. No Dows (Greys) or Draconians (Reptilians) were evidently
present at this meeting. The discussion apparently revolved around the
subject of territorial rights and quadrant title to certain parts of our Galaxy
by those from the two groups. The Andromedans spoke on behalf of those
from this sector, and asked that Earth be left alone so that we could be
allowed to evolve. They further stated that their whole race was prepared to
support the cause of Earth. The humanoids from Sirius B became very
upset at this prospect and promptly left the conference after this statement
by the Andromedans, although the humanoid representatives from the Orion
system remained. The final results of the conference are not known at this
time..."

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_M...r/emotion.html

So from reading this...would it be deemed possible that there are those out there that are the "good guys"...and just what the heck are they doing about this other stuff...are they waiting for us to wake up you think? For a major shift ..like the one we have all been experiencing? Or for an evolution to take place?
Or before we get eaten by these creatures?
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Old 10-15-2009, 04:11 AM   #127
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This paragraph seems to align with one of the 'ramblings' in the Handbooks from George Green to a tee, but without identifying any particular group or race...

"... The Andromedan Council recently participated in a conference at an
undisclosed location, which included representatives from Sirius B and the
Orion Empire. No Dows (Greys) or Draconians (Reptilians) were evidently
present at this meeting. The discussion apparently revolved around the
subject of territorial rights and quadrant title to certain parts of our Galaxy
by those from the two groups. The Andromedans spoke on behalf of those
from this sector, and asked that Earth be left alone so that we could be
allowed to evolve. They further stated that their whole race was prepared to
support the cause of Earth.
The humanoids from Sirius B became very
upset at this prospect and promptly left the conference after this statement
by the Andromedans, although the humanoid representatives from the Orion
system remained. The final results of the conference are not known at this
time..."

http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_M...r/emotion.html

Holy **** that is some compassionate bravery!!!!

An entire race has put themselves on the line for Earth!

And to allow all those living here to be sovereign beings having dominion over Earth in cooperation, and not be ruled by any system outside of Earth, and not having any system enslave the population already here on earth!!!!!!

No pressure though anybody!!!

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Old 10-15-2009, 04:48 AM   #128
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Anchor wrote,

"Each word that each of us writes, utters or thinks are creations for which we are responsible at every level - including the effects they have on other people whether they be intended or otherwise."

As your avatar name also should, imply by definition, it should also be added here. As in anchoring. The anchoring of energies is also a responsibility and that has been over looked in this thread. Those who have done this, know exactly what I am talking about. For those who don't understand this have reacted from an emotional basis of the duality template, because they don't know of this knowledge. If they did then what has happened here in this thread would make perfect sense to them. But because they don't understand it, they perceive it as hatred or anger when you point this out by exposing this truth. If you post in a thread and what you post has an evil energy signature to it as innocently as it might appear, you just anchored that very evil to this thread. Many have been compromised because they can not see the damage that is being done, because it was presented in such innocence. They say the Devil loves us all. The Devil deals out duality. And that was is his signature. The assumption or presumption that one is not of oneness because the Devil doesn't have a clue what oneness is, becomes very evident by using words of separation by acknowledging the movement of what he, the Devil is self realizing, in himself in the very name of love. In duality there is always a switching back and forth. It's how the Devil can hide himself. There is no switching in the template of one. What you see is what you get.

This forum is not a war zone. But what is going on behind it is. When I say behind, please don't change the context of what I just stated. When I say behind it, I am saying behind everything. This forum is a portal. A window and we gather here at this window and compare notes. The battlefield is everywhere and this forum is just a window, to perch on the sill. Also when I say behind, I am not talking what is behind these window panes you call threads as far as window management goes. The window management does a good job keeping the panes of glass clean. But make no mistake as they are not perfect either and may not know all there is to know as to the tactics that the darkside operate on. They are only trying to keep the glass clean for our benefit.

But make no mistake as to the injustices that happen and what we observe on these panes of glass called threads. When you anchor something to the pane of glass that is evil, it is evil, and so don't get your emotional body all twisted up when I say HEY, lookie here guys. Don't let your emotional feelings cloud your judgment, because then when you do that and you lash out and call someone hateful or angry, you are only facing what is within you already.

So understand this when I say, I am not being hateful, I am not angry, and there is nothing wrong with my temper. If you continue to bring these things to my attention is all the forms that you have sent me as of today, it only validates what I have said all along. They are only reactions to things you are not aware of. That's all they are to me. So if you seek an apology, apologize to yourself as to how you have allowed yourself to be compromised.
That is not what I stand for. So when you think I had attacked someone, and I repeatedly said I was pointing it out, now you might understand what I was talking about.

I don't know about you, but I don't want the Devil loving me. This forum is just like a bus terminal. Have you been to one lately? The same things going on over there are going over here. No difference. Also everywhere else. The thing to be great full for here is who you know. We have good mods here and a bunch of great people here as well. All we can do is make the best of it. I am good with that and as I have said, I have an open door policy. I am all about your free agency, you rights to free speech, etc. But don't bother coming through that door if you will not honor mine. I'm just saying.

Just know I know what has been played here in this thread and it has only validated what I already know. I have seen other threads that go through similar things with the same results. All you can do is make notes of that and go on. Forgive, move on, don't keep a grudge, and also never forget that there are lies on every level.

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Old 10-15-2009, 05:00 AM   #129
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Lionheart,
Many of us experiencers would wish that you would return to this thread as a participant rather then as an observer. I hope that you may consider this, and help to educate the ernest seeker with your experiences. It would be valuable.

With deepest respect,
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:06 AM   #130
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I second that
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:50 AM   #131
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Does anyone out there know of the significance of the Human/Hybrid and the purpose of such a being? Are these beings being produced by the Reps? or other alien species?

This subject boggles my mind...for what purpose are they being produced?
Hi Brook - I've been picking up crumbs on THE WATCHER'S and James Casbolt's threads about this. For some reason, I've read both threads pretty consistently since this forum started. So, here are the crumbs. (I'm pretty sure it won't make sense, as I don't have a coherent line on it myself.)

It seems there's an AI (artificial intelligence) backfire (?) with memory programming. Genetic material is sliced and diced to such amazing detail, like nanogenetic petri experiments, e.g. Dulce/Dachau, between species and whatnot. Memory can be laid down basically like CD's in 'enhanced' humans, the Manchurian Candidate types called units, not sure if they're all cloned from human (Nazi-ish?) donors, in new beings (hybrids) etc. There are probably walking plants who talk to computer turtle whizzes. The enhanced humans/agents perform the soldier duty behind the scenes with bad aliens - but now nobody knows who's-who anymore. Someone over arched on a 1930's alien Treaty. I won't venture a guess as to where they're from I have no clue. It may have to do with the desire to replicate themselves due to extinction prospects. Everyone's sick of them. That's what the FEMA camps may be for.

The reptilian experiences may or may not be programmed. The government does/did abductions, human genetic experimentation in collaboration with these whoever they are's. Human women are impregnated both with alien and human clone DNA - then washed (memory) and maybe programmed with weirdo alien fiction, the CIA/NSA UFO Factory at work, the babies taken away. The manipulation of memory to cover this all up is the main thing. But it's the body marks, gut knowing, bruises, nightmares, it's not going smoothly like the Mengeles expected. Now it's a big **** show. Someone else (alien I think) was involved in this too, liked to eat up the 'food' and drink the 'milk' - a weird unwelcome guest at an already putrid orgy.

I haven't had a reptilian encounter. But the mechanisms for all of these soldier training programs, kidnapping, deaths, experimentation, torture, using women randomly (or not so randomly probably) for breeding objectives could shake anybody's soul. I go through terror on behalf of these imaginings. So, for anyone who has signs, marks, been abducted, by these true terrorists - they have my full sympathy. I think details are emerging. I hope they do anyway.

As for pixie dust, here's a type that's more nefarious. I think mudra was just trying to kick off the thread, because it was just sitting here with no responses for a while. That's my opinion anyway. It's hard for people to contribute to an experiencer thread with no experiences. Anyway, I'm sure mudra speaks for him/herself just fine. I just wanted to give my slant. (I hate most of disney too - don't get me going.)

Baggywrinkle/ Pixie dust is real...
The new secret technology winning the war in Iraq is "Smart Dust", RFID tags that can be easily tracked when stuck on the enemy. The identification of the enemy is the key phrase in Woodward's cryptic comment below.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10028

I worked in an GPS-y environment (not govt), so I know there's a lot that can be done with biometrics, RFID, tracking, surveillance, sat imaging etc.

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"...Forgive, move on, don't keep a grudge, and also never forget that there are lies on every level..."

Good point Lionhawk!
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All we can do is be honest and true to ourselves and others. That is the best we can do. Beyond that, it's all opinion.

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Old 10-15-2009, 06:24 AM   #134
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As for my own experiences, they weren't reptilian. I may have had a skin biopsy from space. Anyway, I have a small scar (round about 6mm diameter, it was deep and there's a wee dent now) on my left back shoulder. Because it was so deep, say, 3mm, at first I didn't notice a smaller second one near it.

I went to the doctor at the time. He looked at it and said, 'That's weird.' He had no explanation and it healed fine. For a while, I was angry and wanted my skin back, but what can you do.

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I came in contact with a woman several years back by the name of Pat Smith who claimed to have had contact with the reptilians and had 6 hybrid children as a result of what transpired. She wrote a book which was focused on an alien hybrid contact, which I read and I also spoke with her on the phone about her encounters. Her story was intriguing and filled with insight with respect to her hybrid children and their human adolescent behavior which wasn't going over very well with the old reptilian guard. However, what stands out from my many conversations with numerous contactees and abductees is this... just because they are alien and their metal abilities surpass current human mental abilities doesn't mean they are any more spiritually evolved then some humans.

These beings are not god. They too are on a spiritual evolutionary path and sometimes the best way to fight the negative elements in them is to pray for their spiritual growth and development. Remember the saying, "pray for your enemies?" It is my experience that by entering into ones own heart and opening up to compassion in the deepest purest sense is the only true way to defeat that which seeks to instill fear. This is not an easy task. I know in the past when I have felt them around... my initial psychological, emotional and physical response was fear... then intense anger because I refuse to be afraid... and then when I'm out of that fear mode I'm able to move to compassion. Odd, isn't it? I can't speak for others experiences when it come to contact with some of the more negative elements yet I have personally known people in the worst possible of circumstances who pray while in the midst of traumatic situations and they come out far less damaged then those who don't.

Personally, I'm very saddened for those who are traumatized by these situations and hope those who have gone through something feel safe to share their experiences here... and that those who are responding stay in the mode of compassion.

Time is short. Pat did say many of the reptialians and her hybrid children were returning to their planet of origin. And then there are those who are still here. As with any race, not all are evil. I think it is that concept and recognition that gives me hope we will all eventually grow spiritually beyond our own personal limitations and come to recognize that we all come from the Divine and all have a purpose.
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As for my own experiences, they weren't reptilian. I may have had a skin biopsy from space. Anyway, I have a small scar (round about 6mm diameter, it was deep and there's a wee dent now) on my left back shoulder. Because it was so deep, say, 3mm, at first I didn't notice a smaller second one near it.

I went to the doctor at the time. He looked at it and said, 'That's weird.' He had no explanation and it healed fine. For a while, I was angry and wanted my skin back, but what can you do.
Flesh eating disease microbes from the chemtrails???

May they all be neutralized and of no effect.
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Must see video!!

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I came in contact with a woman several years back by the name of Pat Smith who claimed to have had contact with the reptilians and had 6 hybrid children as a result of what transpired. She wrote a book which was focused on an alien hybrid contact, which I read and I also spoke with her on the phone about her encounters. Her story was intriguing and filled with insight with respect to her hybrid children and their human adolescent behavior which wasn't going over very well with the old reptilian guard. However, what stands out from my many conversations with numerous contactees and abductees is this... just because they are alien and their metal abilities surpass current human mental abilities doesn't mean they are any more spiritually evolved then some humans.
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Time is short. Pat did say many of the reptialians and her hybrid children were returning to their planet of origin. And then there are those who are still here. As with any race, not all are evil. I think it is that concept and recognition that gives me hope we will all eventually grow spiritually beyond our own personal limitations and come to recognize that we all come from the Divine and all have a purpose.
6 children and their all hybrids?...how does one deal with that? That is an amazing story Carol...thank you for sharing it

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Flesh eating disease microbes from the chemtrails???

May they all be neutralized and of no effect.
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Maybe It happened overnight! But.....

At about the same time as this 'biopsy'/biopsy happened, I was doing these interesting sufi experiments about the nature of the milky way and how things look visually when spinning and so on. (I was not stoned, apart from my bad cigarettes habit.) I tripped up - talking about my feet here - and maybe hurt myself then. Not really sure. I was dizzy and into the moment. I actually don't remember it, if it did happen then. Still, I'm not sure why falling might create such a symmetrical little wound, with no bruising.

Anyway, apologies here. This is off-topic, not reptilian.

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Maybe It happened overnight! But.....

At about the same time as this 'biopsy'/biopsy happened, I was doing these interesting sufi experiments about the nature of the milky way and how things look visually when spinning and so on. (I was not stoned, apart from my bad cigarettes habit.) I tripped up - talking about my feet here - and maybe hurt myself then. Not really sure. I was dizzy and into the moment. I actually don't remember it, if it did happen then. Still, I'm not sure why falling might create such a symmetrical little wound, with no bruising.
Lol... I hope they don't have videos of us as we suddenly and randomly spin and then try to keep our balance.

They probably have their own version of AFV on that subject!
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Hi Brook,

Pat's story was amazing. Her six hybrid children are with the reptilians. She has a telepathic link with them. Last I spoke with her she was going to start on her second book. I'll have to go through my library to track down the title. She worked for the government so I wasn't surprised that she had been selected as a breeder. I just think there is far more then any of us can possibly know given how much mind control and deception is at work. Hopefully, we humans will grow into our own telepathic abilities and the time for secrets will come to an end.
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Hi Carol

I'm more then ready for that time Over due in fact
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Sorry Wormhole. I have been very busy with emails in regards to this thread. It isn't that I am purposely trying to neglect what is now flowing here. I see a lot of good things happening here that are finally going in the right direction as was intended in the beginning. Also I have other matters of concern that I must maintain that I am involved with that take priority. But we have manage some how to stay on top of everything. Hopefully today I can participate much more here.
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I'm more then ready for that time Over due in fact
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Hopefully, we humans will grow into our own telepathic abilities and the time for secrets will come to an end.
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Exactly Carol, no secrets then, once we have achieved our full potential once again that which was taken from us, there will be no need for lies, deception.
Can you imagine what that will be like!
That will blow the mind!
Knowing what your fellow neighbour or friend is thinking about you! oh dear how will people cope.
Well they are going to have to change, become the loving ones we once were, selfless/always helping others, teaching our children, or perhaps i should say our children teaching us!
Because the childs mind is pure open to love and harmony, we bring this through you see but this connection is so quickly lost!

I think a lot of people would get a shock if they knew just how big the hybrid agenda is.
Yes this planet is a mixing of races none of us know just what we have in us but one thing is clear we all hold a little reptile in us in our brains this is reptilian do not forget that.

So i'm trying not to think too much these days lol!!!!
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reptilians or no reptilians

i love you all ....

and i dont mind a few scales (can add interest )

all will come to love ..

balance the scales ...

in service to the one rhythommmmmmmmmmm....
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I actually agree with you rhythm, love all races i have said this so many times now, there is good and bad in all races look at humanity! humans can be bad too!
But i would like to go back to the energy i once was before this body found form and took over. The soul encapsulates the spirit, once the soul is forced open and the true spirit released we will return to what we once were.
My mind is open to all theories i like to hear the many versions of our existance it teaches we learn while in this human form but for me i wish to return to my spiritual energy at one with everything.






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all will come to love ..

balance the scales ...

in service to the one rhythommmmmmmmmmm....
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What amazes me is that there have been what appears to be, good experiences with these Reptilians. I can only assume that these experiences are related to a Reptilian faction of the original Orion group. I understand that there is a Reptilian planet that is now peaceful. I speculate that this was the original group that were different than the Draconian group. But raised as much hell as the Draconians. They could have been one of the same when they were first dumped here and when the Orion wars broke out these two groups had split off from each other. I also speculate that when this great war was coming to it's end that was when the split took place. It didn't happen over night and it could have been a disagreement. I also hear that another faction who did not agree with the majority of the Reptilian group, broke off from it and came this way. This group broke off because they couldn't let go of previous ways or ideologies. This is the group that has aligned themselves with the Draconians but is still sovereign from them. Keep in mind that this is speculative.

So when I hear of a good experience, I am doubtful or skeptical. I am not ruling out the possibility. But if it is a good experience, it could have something to do with the idea that you are family to them in human form. But you are of their lineage. I can wrap my head around that. That makes sense to me.

What I have ingrained within me is a streak of distrust. I don't even trust the so called peaceful ones. Maybe my experiences have just hammered that in there. I have a prejudice that I have been trying to over come for a lot of years. Not one of hate, but of distrust. In the last few years, I have for lack of better words, tried to even negotiate with them. The them being the Draconians. Try testing that idea on yourself.

Just a few years ago, 2004, a ship was dispatched from somewhere and it's destination was Antarctica. The ship was loaded with supplies and an army of like I have never seen. Somewhere in this thread there was mentioned something of combat gear. This army was on the scale of their very best. Just one of these soldiers could take on at least 100 Navy Seals. They had combat gear on. Now add that to their abilities and technology and super soldier to the extreme comes to mind. The count of 20,000 comes to mind. The only thing I could do at the time was interfere with their ship. I did that and delayed their arrival by Earth time standards of 4 days. So they were floating in space for that amount of time. They were heading here from the Orion sector. But they still arrived and there has to be a base there as there was an exchange from the ship to that base. Mind you this is only 5 years ago. Also there is no telling how many have come and gone since then. Or even before then. So I am speculating that there is a large army underground somewhere and the South Pole region is their doorway. But what are they doing gathering here in large numbers? What are they preparing for?

Now someone might get on their fear based bicycle. I am not trying to spread fear here. This is about the AWARENESS issue as to the probability. But what if no one sees anything like this as a possibility? Then when it does happen, how are people going to react then? The greatest weapon is that of surprise. You can take out large numbers with that kind of element. Without a large contingency. The movie Independence Day is really not that far fetched when you think about it. Like the chess game where you position your pieces and then you pounce. I also hear that they have 100,000 on Mars. I don't know the validity of that. So what I am thinking that it isn't just about the ruling of Earth, as it is more the ruling and complete domination of our Solar System.

Now I can hear all the new age people say that they are going to only focus on these higher plains of conscientiousness and duality doesn't exist and blah, blah ,blah, and stay in that sugar coated wonderland. Well, if you are here in the physical realm just like the rest of us, and you can't dematerialize yourself because you can't accept that we live in a place governed by duality that goes on and exists in even higher dimensions, you will just be trapped here like the rest of us. So if you can't dematerialize right now, let that reality bring you back down to the planet. Whether you want to face it or not, aspects of duality go even passed the 12th dimension. It is one of their greatest weapons of mind control to inform people that there is no such thing of duality. When that happens, the concept of the Template of Oneness, can not be realized because it is now hidden. So in that sense you become the sheep and are asleep as they want you to be. So if you don't embrace all that is, you become trapped in the very duality you deny. If you can see that Oneness is the only sane way, you will just end up as a statistic or a food source.

For me it is like the issue of disclosure. Can't you disclose it for yourself? Why do you need to hear from some leader on the hill to still believe it. Believing is not proof. It isn't a matter whether UFO's exist. That has already been disclose. Same thing with the disclosure of whether or not Reptilians exist. For the experiencer that question is surely answered. Disclosure becomes a non issue. It is what happens afterward from that experience that reveals the purpose of that encounter. That's where the real story manifests itself.

It all breaks down to Awareness. If your awareness is defined by the box that your conscientiousness resides, you have the power to expand it. When you do, you will be able to see a broader view of what is really going on. Knowing that as your awareness increases, the sum total of your knowledge also decreases. So if you hear a limited view point, know it is because of the awareness factor of that individual that is defining it.

Which brings us back to the now. For the experiencer it is also a matter of how you process the experience. Whether you allow the terror to limit your being. The trick is to get passed the terror. What happened to me was very terrifying and you can only carry it for so long. You become exhausted from carrying it. You get tired to the point that you come face to face with a choice. That choice is whether you want to continue living in fear/terror, or do you want to be liberated and free from it. That is the pinnacle point. If you can use that very fear to motivate you into freedom, then you can become and then start doing great things of the spirit.

A small example. I use to be a rock climber. Rookie. One day on a certain climb, I learned a small lesson. The climb was a difficult one. Rated as a 5-9. 5-11 being the most difficult. The climb started out and then you went into a spread eagle. As I proceeded upward, someone mentioned that no one has been able to go straight up through it. Well, being a young buck, I decided I was going to go straight up through it. About 3/4 of the way up, I encountered a ledge. I knew once I got passed the ledge I was home free. Mind you, I was up about 150' off the base. I then took my left hand and grabbed the edge of the ledge. At which time I heard the most peculiar sound. I heard a rattle. I immediately detached my hand from that edge. Now if you can imagine being up 150' (which is nothing) and hanging onto a rock, with a timber rattle snake in your path. What are your choices? You could go back down or you could go up. Talk about a rush. Talk about fear. But here you are in a very dangerous situation with the possibility of death in either direction. I spotted off to my left a finger hold that was barely there. Also outside of normal reach. I then had to take my left foot and placed it higher than my left shoulder on the rock. The little bumps were about a foot above where my foot was placed. My right foot was bracing the other side of the rock. I then used my right leg to spring myself up and Iin a second I grabbed the small bumps with three fingers, pulled my myself up, using my left foot as a pivot point and sprung myself up. I was on top of the cliff in 3 seconds. Under normal circumstances, you could say it was physically impossible to do what I did. I didn't make it straight through that climb like what was mentioned. But I am alive to say I didn't. I used that fear to get me to the top of that climb. If I didn't embrace it, I probably wouldn't be here today. After that I had no more fear. It was released.

Same thing with these things. The bottom line is I know through the Template of Oneness, that connection is all that I need to over come anything I may come across. Telepathy becomes an instant reality. You don't have to train for it. You can leave your body in an instant. You can know anything that you question, that you seek. All you have to do is be sincere about it. Intent. The is-ness as Alex Collier calls it, is what it is. It isn't sugar coated either. It is the expression of creation in it's perfect form. We are all of that and when we shed our stuff, we can then operate as such. But mind you we are anchored to this Planet, and there is a reason. A much larger reason than most are aware. We are surrounded by many hidden agendas and if you increase your awareness, these agendas will come into view.

Become aware. Know that what people are bringing forth as to their experiences is about bringing that into your awareness. You don't have to believe it. Because as you increase your awareness, you will know it for yourself. Just make sure you are connected first before proving it out. If you do that, you will be able to share it with others. Also it might be a better experience for you.

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Buddism and Evil
By Barbara O'Brien

Evil is a word many people use without thinking deeply about what it signifies. I'd like to compare common ideas about evil with Buddhist teachings on evil, if for no other reason than to facilitate deeper thinking about evil.

Over the years I've observed that people speak and think about evil in several different, and sometimes conflicting, ways. The two most common are these:

Evil as intrinsic characteristic. It's common to think of evil as an intrinsic characteristic of some people or groups. In other words, some people are said to be evil. Evil is a quality that is inherent in their being.

Evil as external force. In this view, evil lurks about and infects or seduces the unwary into doing bad things. Sometimes evil is personified as Satan or some other character from religious literature.

As I've said, these are common, popular ideas. You can find much more profound and nuanced ideas about evil in many philosophies and theologies, eastern and western. But for this essay I want to focus on Buddhist teachings and explain why Buddhism rejects both of these common ways of thinking about evil. Let's take them one at a time.

Evil as Characteristic

The act of sorting humanity into "good" and "evil" carries a terrible trap. When other people are thought to be evil, it becomes possible to justify doing them harm. And in that thinking are seeds of genuine evil.

Human history is thoroughly saturated by violence and atrocity committed on behalf of "good" against people categorized as "evil." I dare say most of the mass horrors humanity has inflicted upon itself have come from this kind of thinking. People intoxicated by their own self-righteousness or who believe in their own intrinsic moral superiority too easily give themselves permission to do terrible things to those they hate or fear.

Sorting people into separate divisions and categories is very un-Buddhist. The Buddha's teaching of the Four Noble Truths tells us that suffering is caused by greed, or thirst, but also that greed is rooted in the delusion of an isolated, separate self.

Closely related to this is the teaching of interdependent origination, which says that everything and everyone is a web of interconnection, and every part of the web expresses and reflects every other part of the web.

And also closely related is the Mahayana teaching of shunyata, "emptiness." If we are empty of intrinsic being, how can we be intrinsically anything? There is no-self for intrinsic qualities to stick to.

For this reason, a Buddhist is strongly advised not to fall into the habit of thinking of himself and others as intrinsically good or bad. Ultimately there is just action and reaction; cause and effect. And this takes us to karma, which I will come back to shortly.

Evil as External Force

Some religions teach that evil is a force outside ourselves that seduces us into sin. This force is sometimes thought to be generated by Satan or various demons. The faithful are encouraged to seek strength outside themselves to fight evil, by looking to God.

The Buddha's teaching could not be more different --

"By oneself, indeed, is evil done; by oneself is one defiled. By oneself is evil left undone; by oneself, indeed, is one purified. Purity and impurity depend on oneself. No one purifies another." (Dhammapada, chapter 12, verse 165)

Buddhism teaches us that evil is something we create, not something we are or some outside force that infects us.

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