Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 08:27 PM

I wasn't talking about your experience Angel, or anyone elses for that matter. I believe you are genuine.
I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question.
Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt, as fear is what manipulative people want us to be experience, that is their goal.

There is too much love and beauty around to ignore...

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Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Mind manipulation???... I wasn't even awake at the time it happened... No mind manipulation here!... Besides the fact that I wasn't alone witnessing this 'thing'... Otherwise I probably would think that my mind manipulated me. Not so... I saw what I saw and chalked it up to unexplained mysteries, and it still to this day is a mystery.

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 08:31 PM

So many sucked in to the need, I also joined to see the result.

Angel in Disguise · 10-13-2009, 08:39 PM

Phtha... No offense taken whatsoever. I know that there is an abundance of love and beauty but at this point I rarely see it unless alone enjoying the beautiful sounds of nature... Until of course I spot a chemtrail in the sky which always seems to bring me back to this reality that I cannot stand... How do you do it?

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 09:39 PM

Actually angel I do exactly the same thing you do.. and like you I will often see a chemtrail overhead which I can't help but get upset over.

I just hold strongly to the belief that we are moving into a much better time. We can't fix the system because it is corrupt at the core, so crashing it is the only way, and that is what is happening now.
I have meditated on the whole subject as detached as possible for many hours to come to that decision. There is no polarity, there is only love. We created the hate and fear, and when I say we I include all living beings in existence, but its just an illusion.. the fear. A real illusion, but still an illusion.. and an experience I could do without personally.

That's my take in a nutshell.

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Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Phtha... No offense taken whatsoever. I know that there is an abundance of love and beauty but at this point I rarely see it unless alone enjoying the beautiful sounds of nature... Until of course I spot a chemtrail in the sky which always seems to bring me back to this reality that I cannot stand... How do you do it?

Angel in Disguise · 10-13-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Phtha

Actually angel I do exactly the same thing you do.. and like you I will often see a chemtrail overhead which I can't help but get upset over.

I just hold strongly to the belief that we are moving into a much better time. We can't fix the system because it is corrupt at the core, so crashing it is the only way, and that is what is happening now.
I have meditated on the whole subject as detached as possible for many hours to come to that decision. There is no polarity, there is only love. We created the hate and fear, and when I say we I include all living beings in existence, but its just an illusion.. the fear. A real illusion, but still an illusion.. and an experience I could do without personally.

That's my take in a nutshell.

I hold very strongly to that belief as well... Been telling my mom something HUGE is going to happen in my lifetime since I was 6yrs old... I think it is happening now. I feel it! I have always believed there should only be love but it is very contrary to what I see now... Love will prevail however... no matter how far away it seems

Jacqui D · 10-13-2009, 09:57 PM

although my experiences with these two reps were not good i do not think all reps are bad.
As in humanity there are good and bad this i feel is the same with reps.
I have heard it said that reps help humans not all have an agenda to be killers, flesh eaters as it has been known.
I am just stating this is what happened to me the purpose of this attack was a pay back scenario as in true predator style he marked himself also a bit like the notch on the bedpost!
I have lost the anger i felt i am focussing on love for all creatures now as i said before there are good and bad in all.

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 08:53 PM

I have read it all, from voice to skull technologies and also Matthew Delooze's "take" that his experience w/abduction by reps complete w/tortuous experience was implanted in his mind, because, as is his take, some of us are harder 'nuts to crack' in the mind control realm, thus technologies are used to convince us. I'm aware of all such "takes"... and, especially in Matthew's view, I had to give it to him, his view is a novel one... how clever can clever be?

Still, I await Lionhawks offerings of methods of protection from such invasions. Whether rep contact is real or fabricated, they are STILL first hand experiences by those that perceived them, complete w/physical 3D senses receptions, the whole niners.

This thread was started w/an appeal ONLY to those that have first hand experiences to post here... I'm asking Lionhawk for his/ner information of viable protection techniques or whatever he/she has to offer, as it the purpose of Lionhawk stated in the other thread of 'counter intel'... assistance, help, protection.

It's obvious that people will not post their personal experiences here... so may we get solution oriented?

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 09:04 PM

Try all you want to convince someone that their experience was not real. If you have not had experiences, then you do not hold the criteria to participate in this thread and it is unkind to joke about it.

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 09:17 PM

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you

Angel in Disguise · 10-13-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Moxie

I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option.

My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities.

I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience.

Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences.

thank you

I was fully awake and under no 'influences'... Although I do have recuuring episodes of sleep paralysis where I receive messages and know that I am in a different realm at the time so try to extend the sleep paralysis as to receive more messages that are too quickly forgotten once I actually awaken... Does that make sense?

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 09:22 PM

Lucid dreams were not my experience, i was wide awake, i dont do drugs of any kind so cannot blame them, it was real and the most horrific experience of my life.

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

What doctrine are you speaking of in regard to Lionhawk? I have not heard him once speak about being hopeless or in fear. He has simply said not to sit back and say we have already won, and thus do nothing.
Please quote what Lionhawk has said and where.

You already have a thread sharing your theory of mind control. Why hijack this thread and try to steer it in a direction which basically says those who have had experiences with Reps are deluded by some mind control agenda?

Unified I'm not high jacking anything I'm allowed to post when and where I want. I tell know one what to believe I merely share my opinions. Put me on ignore if it bothers you.

Just read lionhawks posts in the thread I started about reptiles and if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you. And also complain to him/her for hijacking it, although I don't agree that is the case.

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Originally Posted by Moxie

Try all you want to convince someone that their experience was not real. If you have not had experiences, then you do not hold the criteria to participate in this thread and it is unkind to joke about it.

Who is trying to convince people their experience is not real? I read through the posts, I must have missed it.

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 09:28 PM

Thank you Unified Serenity for this: "I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes."

Exactly! Happened to me too that way... and invoking the highest level of inner power/guardians, it took flight! It was definitely weighted presence, held me down, powerfully, pain in both armpits...
And, I lost 2 hrs of time refusing to go to sleep again.. the clock measured 2 hrs previous time from the last check, that sort of thing...the most horrendous storm passed over the house and my mother & brother awakened to find me asleep on the living room floor (this was yrs ago, I was 23) and I didn't hear the terrible explosions of bowling ball thunder that woke them.

Moxie · 10-13-2009, 09:47 PM

Phtha wrote:.. "I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question. Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt..." and ..."I'm allowed to post when and where I want."

perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

Phtha · 10-13-2009, 09:59 PM

No apology necessary. I love heated debates myself, I often learn a lot from them.
Of course I feel fear, you are right it is hard wired. I am talking about the state of fear rather then the reaction of fear though. I'll try and be more clear.
The other day I was running down my usual route and right beside me a huge crashing sound was suddenly at my left. My heart jumped and the initial reaction was bear or something (I've seen a few on my runs before). But it was a couple of young deer just as frightened as I was. I can only imagine what it would be like to be confronted by something much worse.

Living in a state of fear, believing that the bear will jump out everytime I go running... that is what I am referring to... and that is a state I will not allow my self to live in. I have full control of that.

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Originally Posted by Moxie

perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread.

you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you"

ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ?

Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

Jacqui D · 10-13-2009, 10:06 PM

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.

Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:15 PM

This is the earth symbol, also known as the sun cross and solar cross. Mother earth.

Angel in Disguise · 10-13-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacqui D

This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested.

Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

Interesting... Do you know what it means?

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:16 PM

As above and also Hopi medicine wheel.

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:18 PM

Soory i forgot, also the norse sun symbol.

Jacqui D · 10-13-2009, 10:20 PM

I do that is all that matters, yes it is the earth sign also and it is the rosicrusion sign too.
I wanted it made clear my story was backed up with a picture of this mark so now i have posted it.

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:25 PM

My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

Jacqui D · 10-13-2009, 11:19 PM

Thank you Ammit your kind words have been taken on board.

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Originally Posted by Ammit

My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

Wormhole · 10-13-2009, 10:27 PM

I've had two experiences. One wide awake, 25 years ago. I saw a Rep in my room with me. It's like being in a cage with a tiger that is about to spring. I was very afraid. It smiled or grimaced at me. It's knees were very bent and it was in a springing position, only about three feet from me. I had a very good view of it. It simply vanished after several seconds.

The last experience was last winter. There were two Reps, both had false skin on their faces and were pretending to be human skiers. One asked me if I wanted to see it's eyes, I said yes. It showed me and then pealed back a layer of skin and showed me the scales underneath. The scales were pale, not dark like before. I felt that these two may have been half-bred with humans. I was not afraid this time.

They showed me a creature that had a very warped skull. A human? Not sure. I was asked if this creature deserved to be loved. I responded that all creatures deserved love and were loved by god. This seemed to satisfy them, and they left.

Peace of Mind through the Heart,
Wormhole

Ammit · 10-13-2009, 10:34 PM

It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.

10-13-2009, 08:31 PM	#2
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers So many sucked in to the need, I also joined to see the result.

10-13-2009, 08:39 PM	#3
Angel in Disguise Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 364	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Phtha... No offense taken whatsoever. I know that there is an abundance of love and beauty but at this point I rarely see it unless alone enjoying the beautiful sounds of nature... Until of course I spot a chemtrail in the sky which always seems to bring me back to this reality that I cannot stand... How do you do it?

10-13-2009, 09:57 PM	#6
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers although my experiences with these two reps were not good i do not think all reps are bad. As in humanity there are good and bad this i feel is the same with reps. I have heard it said that reps help humans not all have an agenda to be killers, flesh eaters as it has been known. I am just stating this is what happened to me the purpose of this attack was a pay back scenario as in true predator style he marked himself also a bit like the notch on the bedpost! I have lost the anger i felt i am focussing on love for all creatures now as i said before there are good and bad in all.

10-13-2009, 08:53 PM	#7
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers I have read it all, from voice to skull technologies and also Matthew Delooze's "take" that his experience w/abduction by reps complete w/tortuous experience was implanted in his mind, because, as is his take, some of us are harder 'nuts to crack' in the mind control realm, thus technologies are used to convince us. I'm aware of all such "takes"... and, especially in Matthew's view, I had to give it to him, his view is a novel one... how clever can clever be? Still, I await Lionhawks offerings of methods of protection from such invasions. Whether rep contact is real or fabricated, they are STILL first hand experiences by those that perceived them, complete w/physical 3D senses receptions, the whole niners. This thread was started w/an appeal ONLY to those that have first hand experiences to post here... I'm asking Lionhawk for his/ner information of viable protection techniques or whatever he/she has to offer, as it the purpose of Lionhawk stated in the other thread of 'counter intel'... assistance, help, protection. It's obvious that people will not post their personal experiences here... so may we get solution oriented?

10-13-2009, 09:04 PM	#8
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Try all you want to convince someone that their experience was not real. If you have not had experiences, then you do not hold the criteria to participate in this thread and it is unkind to joke about it.

10-13-2009, 09:17 PM	#9
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers I have had experiences as well... I was merely mentioning that I have considered 'mind control' as a viable explanation for these having happened... not that I know this, just that I've read it, another option. My experiences were in and around the sleep state, not lucid dreams, but like Robert Monroe wrote about, oobe's and also hynogogic states... a reptilian was attached to my right arm, I saw the scaley flesh and claws, attached to me like superglue, could not shake it... I've been molested, quite real, but/but as Swerdlow writes about it, these are mostly astral entities. I would like to know from those that have seen reptilians in total waking life... my experiences were always in or around the sleep state, some of which were quite terrifying... and, I do think that astral (live/awake in another realm) is a valid experience. Swerdlow has told me personally that alot of the sacrificial and tortuous events DO in fact happen astrally, is why I ask for solid, awake, first hand experiences. thank you

10-13-2009, 09:22 PM	#11
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Lucid dreams were not my experience, i was wide awake, i dont do drugs of any kind so cannot blame them, it was real and the most horrific experience of my life.

10-13-2009, 09:28 PM	#13
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Thank you Unified Serenity for this: "I was attacked one time in the physical having been brought out of sleep to fully awake. As I struggled to stop this attack, and before I could open my eyes, a voice which I recognized as a soul protector / guide told me to not open my eyes." Exactly! Happened to me too that way... and invoking the highest level of inner power/guardians, it took flight! It was definitely weighted presence, held me down, powerfully, pain in both armpits... And, I lost 2 hrs of time refusing to go to sleep again.. the clock measured 2 hrs previous time from the last check, that sort of thing...the most horrendous storm passed over the house and my mother & brother awakened to find me asleep on the living room floor (this was yrs ago, I was 23) and I didn't hear the terrible explosions of bowling ball thunder that woke them.

10-13-2009, 09:47 PM	#14
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Phtha wrote:.. "I was talking about this doctrine of hoplessness and fear that lionhawk and many others seems to believe without question. Anything that leaves a taste of fear in my mouth I doubt..." and ..."I'm allowed to post when and where I want." perhaps you are allowed but you don't hold the criteria to take the invite that the thread specifically stated, so you are not bieng respectful of this new thread. you wrote: "if you can't feel the fear in the posts then good for you" ok, so you feel fear. Fear is not doctrine... lol.. give me a break.... fear is a hardwired emotion to indicate alarm... you are getting it 2nd hand, imagine how you'd chit your pants were it firsthand. Why are you hanging around for more ? Apoligies, but I'm human and get annoyed at times.

10-13-2009, 10:06 PM	#16
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers This was the mark i received i thought i would post it because of new members etc if your interested. Matthew delooze kindly enhanced the last one for me i not very good with pc's and downloading stuff.

10-13-2009, 10:15 PM	#17
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers This is the earth symbol, also known as the sun cross and solar cross. Mother earth.

10-13-2009, 10:16 PM	#19
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers As above and also Hopi medicine wheel.

10-13-2009, 10:18 PM	#20
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers Soory i forgot, also the norse sun symbol.

10-13-2009, 10:20 PM	#21
Jacqui D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kent,England Posts: 1,267	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers I do that is all that matters, yes it is the earth sign also and it is the rosicrusion sign too. I wanted it made clear my story was backed up with a picture of this mark so now i have posted it.

10-13-2009, 10:25 PM	#22
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers My applause to you, most brave to show the signs that you have endured.

10-13-2009, 10:27 PM	#24
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers I've had two experiences. One wide awake, 25 years ago. I saw a Rep in my room with me. It's like being in a cage with a tiger that is about to spring. I was very afraid. It smiled or grimaced at me. It's knees were very bent and it was in a springing position, only about three feet from me. I had a very good view of it. It simply vanished after several seconds. The last experience was last winter. There were two Reps, both had false skin on their faces and were pretending to be human skiers. One asked me if I wanted to see it's eyes, I said yes. It showed me and then pealed back a layer of skin and showed me the scales underneath. The scales were pale, not dark like before. I felt that these two may have been half-bred with humans. I was not afraid this time. They showed me a creature that had a very warped skull. A human? Not sure. I was asked if this creature deserved to be loved. I responded that all creatures deserved love and were loved by god. This seemed to satisfy them, and they left. Peace of Mind through the Heart, Wormhole Last edited by Wormhole; 10-14-2009 at 12:45 AM.

10-13-2009, 10:34 PM	#25
Ammit Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK Posts: 827	Re: Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers It seems a lot of heart felt truths are now coming out, maybe this will begin to make us stronger and start living as a human race with stories to tell. maybe even makes us closer to each other in what is ever to come.