What's going on in media

TheObserver · 09-16-2009, 02:48 PM

I was raised to not be a bigot by parents who always said never judge a book by it's cover etc so i have a very non-ethnocentric and egalitarian (i think minimum wage laws should be paired with maximum salary laws) view. So no "media" can ever make me hate any fellow human, after all we're all pink on the inside.

Northern Boy · 09-16-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheObserver

I was raised to not be a bigot by parents who always said never judge a book by it's cover etc so i have a very non-ethnocentric and egalitarian (i think minimum wage laws should be paired with maximum salary laws) view. So no "media" can ever make me hate any fellow human, after all we're all pink on the inside.

If we were all blind would skin color really be the issue many make it out to be ?

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 09-16-2009, 05:03 PM

my friend who is not versed in nwo tactics at all said when obama got elected that 'he was gonna get assasinated witha name like that' now this is the level that the new world order people are playing to imo.

its obv they are playing the rACE CARD LIKE MAD. to top it off carter wades in and says basically ifd your against obama your a racsist.. i expect someone to attmept assasination because they are pushing it themsleves to happen.. its all rigged to forment race war.. clear as day.

Unified Serenity · 09-16-2009, 05:12 PM

Do you think Obama would get it if his handlers told him to walk in some march at Daley Plaza?

I don't think Obama would willingly be their scape goat, but hey if he gets up after being shot in the head, at least we know what's coming next.

I'm not accusing Obama of being the beast who gets the head wound, just pondering what are possibilities.

09-16-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Boy

If we were all blind would skin color really be the issue many make it out to be ?

Yes. As one of my a$$hole university professors pointed out (in a South African history course), it's easy to smell the difference.

TheObserver · 09-16-2009, 05:14 PM

Stinkies vs purfumies!

Swanny · 09-16-2009, 05:15 PM

If you are a single, anglo saxon, middle aged, straight, christian white man there is nothing you can claim against.
It's pretty obvious that Obama was chosen because he was black, the ability to play the race card was the reason they chose him. We all know that the voting process is fixed. You can't say anything against him because if you do it's racial.
What annoys me is the MOBO (Music of Black Origin) awards, imagine if we had the MOWO awards, there is no way that would be allowed.

Unified Serenity · 09-16-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny

If you are a single, anglo saxon, middle aged, straight, christian white man there is nothing you can claim against.
It's pretty obvious that Obama was chosen because he was black, the ability to play the race card was the reason they chose him. We all know that the voting process is fixed. You can't say anything against him because if you do it's racial.
What annoys me is the MOBO (Music of Black Origin) awards, imagine if we had the MOWO awards, there is no way that would be allowed.

The standard liberal reply is that all those other award ceremonies are WHITE AWARD CEREMONIES.

Of course it is a double standard. If you bring it up, you're a racist. The fact is the louder the noise the greater the attention... or "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." The black community rightly got very loud in the 1960's and they got results. Liberal's get very loud and they cowtow the right. The media shows skewed turn outs and makes it appear like a majority feel one way, when it is not true. Just look at the 9/12 coverage. Had just 30,000 liberals marched on 9/12 in D.C. it would have been all over the news, but let 1.2 million conservatives march and very little is said.

The good news is that I don't think they marched for media whores, they marched to express their anger, and for that number of people to show up on their own dime says a LOT. For every 1 who showed up more than 100 stayed home is my guess. It could be higher. The point is, we the people are not happy with where America is headed and it has nothing to do with race. It's about the constitution and freedom!

The Elites want to distract us with race baiting. The ironic thing is they hate blacks.

Swanny · 09-16-2009, 05:53 PM

I'm far from being racist, have travelled the world too much for that, I've even experienced racism directed at me and have been spat at and even had stones thrown at me because of my colour.
Not a problem as I knew it wasn't personal, but it really annoys me when people play the race card to get a better deal. I could have used my colour to jump ques etc but I didn't. Alex Jones was talking about how he has been called racist because he has attacked Obama for what he is doing, his reply was that if a white player tackles a black player in a game of football is that being racist?? Of course not.

burgundia · 09-16-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny

If you are a single, anglo saxon, middle aged, straight, christian white man there is nothing you can claim against.
It's pretty obvious that Obama was chosen because he was black, the ability to play the race card was the reason they chose him. We all know that the voting process is fixed. You can't say anything against him because if you do it's racial.
What annoys me is the MOBO (Music of Black Origin) awards, imagine if we had the MOWO awards, there is no way that would be allowed.

I think we've had enough "MOWO awards" within the last few hundred years. Perhaps that's the reason the world is in the shape it is....

Swanny · 09-16-2009, 06:42 PM

But there should only be awards for people no matter what colour they are

burgundia · 09-16-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny

But there should only be awards for people no matter what colour they are

You are right...there should be....

Unified Serenity · 09-16-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by burgundia

I think we've had enough "MOWO awards" within the last few hundred years. Perhaps that's the reason the world is in the shape it is....

I think that would have been a good argument back before the 1980's, but from my experience race was not an issue in awards and beauty pageants from then on. I really don't care if they want to honor their own race with awards, but don't get ****** when it is suggested that maybe we need a white awards now. Or how about the NAAWP? That would fly like a lead balloon.

I think the problem comes in when there is obvious discrimination going on, but I haven't seen that in music, acting, or beauty pageants in many years.

deb003 · 09-16-2009, 07:47 PM

I'll go out on a limb here and be completely honest.
My childhood friend and my closest friend is a black person and i can tell you that there are things that she and her family can say that I, because I am not black cannot say and wouldn't dare say, because they would think I am racist, but they can say it.

They are an educated family and they can get away with things I can't because of the unspoken racism that still exists today.
I have different friends of all different races and even though most say they are not racist, they each have a label they give to come group in a moment of anger or frustration. I have yet to meet one person who doesn't have some form of predjudice whether they want to admit it or not.
I live in an area where there are allot of different nationalities mixed together and each person has a predjudice with another. Whether it's educated white people or a low income latin person.
They only come out and speak about it when they hear something that affirms their core belief system.
Not saying that this system is right. On the contrary, the system of ingrained predjudice comes from the family of origin, the media, the community, the system itself from it sneed to keep us in a state of separation and division and this is also a huge money making strategy and manipulation.
I m only saying that they're playing the race card right now and all they're doing is feeding into what's already in our minds, because if we weren't already thinking with some form of predjudice, there would be not much to talk about because it wouldn't resonate with us.

I think this will change as we develop ourselves spiritually and emotional heal this soul-sickness that we have gained through the ages and I also think this is a cosmic awakening that will direct us or guide us into evolving this type of thinking.

I'm hopefull, sometimes skeptical but hopefull.

Swanny · 09-16-2009, 08:03 PM

Racism is taught, you only have to look at babies and young children to see that. When they play they don't care what colour the other is.

I think the only reason they have brought so many different races into Britian is because they know that in a cirsis they will not stick together. In the wars of past there were only British people in Britian and they stuck together like one big family. Those days are gone

Holding a British passport doesn't mean you can even speak English anymore. They have erroded away national identites all over the world.

I'm happy for anyone to travel anywhere in the world they want, but don't like it when they tottaly invade another country and change it. Look at what the British have done to Spain.

burgundia · 09-16-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny

Racism is taught, you only have to look at babies and young children to see that. When they play they don't care what colour the other is.

I think the only reason they have brought so many different races into Britian is because they know that in a cirsis they will not stick together. In the wars of past there were only British people in Britian and they stuck together like one big family. Those days are gone

Holding a British passport doesn't mean you can even speak English anymore. They have erroded away national identites all over the world.

I'm happy for anyone to travel anywhere in the world they want, but don't like it when they tottaly invade another country and change it. Look at what the British have done to Spain.

come to Poland then.....

Swanny · 09-16-2009, 08:39 PM

Are there any Poles left in Poland? I think we have them all over here

Unified Serenity · 09-16-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by deb003

Not saying that this system is right. On the contrary, the system of ingrained predjudice comes from the family of origin, the media, the community, the system itself from it sneed to keep us in a state of separation and division and this is also a huge money making strategy and manipulation.
I m only saying that they're playing the race card right now and all they're doing is feeding into what's already in our minds, because if we weren't already thinking with some form of predjudice, there would be not much to talk about because it wouldn't resonate with us.

I agree with all that you have said, but my original post was more of a question of is mind control happening on a stepped up scale right now for some purpose. I think NB hit it pretty well, and I do think it has a lot to do with distractions. Many people live on a very base level energetically and do not have the faintest clue they are being manipulated.

Can we in our positive energy affect this? Are we kidding ourselves into thinking we can? What can we do now? I am feeling like I need to do more public speaking here, bring the community together for truth, and really talk after maybe watching Maafa 21, The Obama Deception, 9/11 stuff. I think that the vast majority of people are of a good nature and if they could see how we have been manipulated and who is holding the puppet strings we could avoid some negative outcomes.

09-17-2009, 02:40 AM

I do agree that the media is playing the race card in regards to Obama and anyone who opposes his views, however I also know that mind manipulation is used intentionally and frequently, on all of us through tv and newspapers especially. Let's take for instance, before Obama was elected. Fox News used Frank Luntz often, and the results of his polls were taken as what the majority of Americans opinions were, even though only a roomful of folks had been questioned. I can't post this video because it does use profanity, but for those of you interested, look up the youtube video under the search term "Frank Luntz CFR Pollster Exposed". This is just a small example of the mind control games that is included in business as usual, on people in every country. It's difficult for people to believe that the media would intentionally lie to us or twist things around a bit, but it's been going on for decades and will continue, unless there is a major awakening and the media's owners and their affiliations are exposed as part of the propaganda machine and New World Order supporters that they are. It's a shame that all those people who marched on Washington Saturday were not given the exposure they deserved, but I was not at all surprised. It's time for us to work on exposing the bought-out media for the criminals that they are. They become complicit when they ignore or cover-up information that the people are entitled to. I think you've given me a new avenue to follow in my exposes that I post elsewhere.

Christo888 · 09-17-2009, 04:28 AM

US, thank you for continuing to bring up the subject of "Synthetic Telepathy" here are just a few sites regarding microwave mind control and how they have been operating all over the US for some time now and all over the world.

Anyone can stop the effects of "Synthetic Telepathy" but one must first learn the difference between their own thoughts and those thoughts that are slowly creeping in over time to establish an easy entry way into your behavior.

http://synthetictelepathy.com/

http://www.whale.to/b/telepathy.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so..._mindcon10.htm

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....34531ceea9946#

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008...my-funds-synt/

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/gwen.htm

http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2009/01/31...al-connection/

http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/projects.html

Unified Serenity · 09-17-2009, 08:59 PM

I just saw this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._violence.html

Pelosi warning of political violence? Hmmm, seems they are stoking the fires. Getting ready to blame the "right wing extremists" so when their planted agents start it the people will know who to blame.

Humble Janitor · 09-18-2009, 12:46 AM

The media WANTS you to be a bigot, hence their attempt to turn people against each other.

Ignore their charade and continue to spread love.

09-18-2009, 01:08 AM

Normally, I'm a peace loving person, but in the case of Pelosi, I hope she sheds many tears. I don't wish anything physically harmful to happen to her, but she and all the others that have been up to no good in DC do need to be very afraid of losing their positions of power, and being exposed to the masses for what they've done. Pelosi is an actress, but the people have started to realize that. After the nearly 2 million folks showed up last Saturday, I think it spoke loudly and clearly that ordinary citizens are really fed up with the way the country has been run, and they're ready to take their country back by kicking them all out of office and starting over, with Constitution abiding new faces. Pelosi also happens to be one of the main reasons that Ron Paul's Audit The Fed bill has taken this long for them to decide on a hearing date to begin. She wanted no part of it, but I do believe she's starting to see that her days are numbered.

Fredkc · 09-18-2009, 01:28 AM

To begin with the topic;
I stopped participating.
We stopped watching "regular TV" in about 1987. Never looked back. We are avid movie watcher, but very rarely see commercials.

Stopped watching the news in late 2001. I feel truly sorry for anyone who still gets their information from a network. Instead I get my news from reading. I read 4-6 hours a day. Two benefits:
1. You get a fairly well developed "BS-meter" for the written word, that way.
2. You don't have to sit through ****, then commercials, just to find out if the next story is also ****. Sure shortens your day!

Race;
Because of how I grew up I've become a "rabid egalitarian". (more later, perhaps) There is no doubt that people of all color keep the race issue alive for personal, and political gain. They make forgiveness very difficult.

One of the most intelligent thinks I ever hear on the matter is about 15 years old, and I cannot remember the source:

"The question of race, in this country, would benefit most by a 20 year period of benign neglect."

If thats too lofty, think of what mom told ya:
"Don't pick it! It'll NEVER heal!"

Fred

lucrum · 09-18-2009, 09:33 AM

I think this particular issue goes worldwide, at least in western countries.
We have it right here, in Norway, maybe even worse than many other places.

I don't know if some or all of you read or heard about the incident in Congo, with two norwegians being sentenced to death by the military court down there. The trial was an absolute farse, a comedy. No real evidence, outrageous claims and even accusations directly towards Norway for sending spies to Congo.

What have our foreign affairs office done in this case? Nothing...
Nothing at all...

Are they guilty? Hard to tell, cause no one can really come up with anything solid to say either this or that. They are just guilty, I suspect even if proven otherwise. The Norwegian government refused to step in and take action, we have no right they say. Well ok, I can support that...IF...that was the general standard. It's not, not in a million years.

"We" care so much about foreign individuals and their human rights, that "we" refuse to deliver KNOWN terrorists and murderers back to their own countries government officials. "We" hide behind human rights, "we" can't deliver them until "we" get an absolute proof that they will not be tortured or killed. We intervene with other nations trials, to spare the life and decency of cold blooded killers.

Our own kind, you ask? Nah, Congo is probably right in their claims. We can't question them, after all they are a poor people and they are African. How could we ever bring sanctions upon them, who we give millions or billions in aid, for not giving our boys a fair trial and decent treatment. No no, we just beg on our knees that they don't kill them and happily kiss the dirt in front of their feet for being so kind.

I'm no racist, not at all. I love diversity, we need diversity.
I completely despise the trickery and lies that decieve so many to believe we are so different. The ones that tell us that what our ancestors did is up to us to repay. It doesn't work like that. If it did, shouldn't everyone be in jail?
Can a single family ancestry with a hand on their heart and sworn truth say that NO ONE in their family ever did anything wrong?

I don't think so...the chapter of our lives that sadly enough contain harsh stories of slavery and murder against the "blacks", the "yellow" or the "red", it is not our burden to carry. We shall learn, not re-live!

It's going on as we speak, right here, over there.
I hope we learn to unite, I'll concentrate on this for everyone that still don't see.

09-16-2009, 02:48 PM	#1
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: What's going on in media I was raised to not be a bigot by parents who always said never judge a book by it's cover etc so i have a very non-ethnocentric and egalitarian (i think minimum wage laws should be paired with maximum salary laws) view. So no "media" can ever make me hate any fellow human, after all we're all pink on the inside.

09-16-2009, 05:03 PM	#3
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: What's going on in media my friend who is not versed in nwo tactics at all said when obama got elected that 'he was gonna get assasinated witha name like that' now this is the level that the new world order people are playing to imo. its obv they are playing the rACE CARD LIKE MAD. to top it off carter wades in and says basically ifd your against obama your a racsist.. i expect someone to attmept assasination because they are pushing it themsleves to happen.. its all rigged to forment race war.. clear as day.

09-16-2009, 05:12 PM	#4
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: What's going on in media Do you think Obama would get it if his handlers told him to walk in some march at Daley Plaza? I don't think Obama would willingly be their scape goat, but hey if he gets up after being shot in the head, at least we know what's coming next. I'm not accusing Obama of being the beast who gets the head wound, just pondering what are possibilities.

09-16-2009, 05:14 PM	#6
TheObserver Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: back in Minnesota Posts: 500	Re: What's going on in media Stinkies vs purfumies!

09-16-2009, 05:15 PM	#7
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: What's going on in media If you are a single, anglo saxon, middle aged, straight, christian white man there is nothing you can claim against. It's pretty obvious that Obama was chosen because he was black, the ability to play the race card was the reason they chose him. We all know that the voting process is fixed. You can't say anything against him because if you do it's racial. What annoys me is the MOBO (Music of Black Origin) awards, imagine if we had the MOWO awards, there is no way that would be allowed.

09-16-2009, 05:53 PM	#9
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: What's going on in media I'm far from being racist, have travelled the world too much for that, I've even experienced racism directed at me and have been spat at and even had stones thrown at me because of my colour. Not a problem as I knew it wasn't personal, but it really annoys me when people play the race card to get a better deal. I could have used my colour to jump ques etc but I didn't. Alex Jones was talking about how he has been called racist because he has attacked Obama for what he is doing, his reply was that if a white player tackles a black player in a game of football is that being racist?? Of course not.

09-16-2009, 06:42 PM	#11
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: What's going on in media But there should only be awards for people no matter what colour they are

09-16-2009, 07:47 PM	#14
deb003 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 297	Re: What's going on in media I'll go out on a limb here and be completely honest. My childhood friend and my closest friend is a black person and i can tell you that there are things that she and her family can say that I, because I am not black cannot say and wouldn't dare say, because they would think I am racist, but they can say it. They are an educated family and they can get away with things I can't because of the unspoken racism that still exists today. I have different friends of all different races and even though most say they are not racist, they each have a label they give to come group in a moment of anger or frustration. I have yet to meet one person who doesn't have some form of predjudice whether they want to admit it or not. I live in an area where there are allot of different nationalities mixed together and each person has a predjudice with another. Whether it's educated white people or a low income latin person. They only come out and speak about it when they hear something that affirms their core belief system. Not saying that this system is right. On the contrary, the system of ingrained predjudice comes from the family of origin, the media, the community, the system itself from it sneed to keep us in a state of separation and division and this is also a huge money making strategy and manipulation. I m only saying that they're playing the race card right now and all they're doing is feeding into what's already in our minds, because if we weren't already thinking with some form of predjudice, there would be not much to talk about because it wouldn't resonate with us. I think this will change as we develop ourselves spiritually and emotional heal this soul-sickness that we have gained through the ages and I also think this is a cosmic awakening that will direct us or guide us into evolving this type of thinking. I'm hopefull, sometimes skeptical but hopefull.

09-16-2009, 08:03 PM	#15
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: What's going on in media Racism is taught, you only have to look at babies and young children to see that. When they play they don't care what colour the other is. I think the only reason they have brought so many different races into Britian is because they know that in a cirsis they will not stick together. In the wars of past there were only British people in Britian and they stuck together like one big family. Those days are gone Holding a British passport doesn't mean you can even speak English anymore. They have erroded away national identites all over the world. I'm happy for anyone to travel anywhere in the world they want, but don't like it when they tottaly invade another country and change it. Look at what the British have done to Spain.

09-16-2009, 08:39 PM	#17
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: What's going on in media Are there any Poles left in Poland? I think we have them all over here

09-17-2009, 02:40 AM	#19
happyhollergal Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What's going on in media I do agree that the media is playing the race card in regards to Obama and anyone who opposes his views, however I also know that mind manipulation is used intentionally and frequently, on all of us through tv and newspapers especially. Let's take for instance, before Obama was elected. Fox News used Frank Luntz often, and the results of his polls were taken as what the majority of Americans opinions were, even though only a roomful of folks had been questioned. I can't post this video because it does use profanity, but for those of you interested, look up the youtube video under the search term "Frank Luntz CFR Pollster Exposed". This is just a small example of the mind control games that is included in business as usual, on people in every country. It's difficult for people to believe that the media would intentionally lie to us or twist things around a bit, but it's been going on for decades and will continue, unless there is a major awakening and the media's owners and their affiliations are exposed as part of the propaganda machine and New World Order supporters that they are. It's a shame that all those people who marched on Washington Saturday were not given the exposure they deserved, but I was not at all surprised. It's time for us to work on exposing the bought-out media for the criminals that they are. They become complicit when they ignore or cover-up information that the people are entitled to. I think you've given me a new avenue to follow in my exposes that I post elsewhere.

09-17-2009, 04:28 AM	#20
Christo888 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OC, CA and next... Posts: 1,289	Re: What's going on in media US, thank you for continuing to bring up the subject of "Synthetic Telepathy" here are just a few sites regarding microwave mind control and how they have been operating all over the US for some time now and all over the world. Anyone can stop the effects of "Synthetic Telepathy" but one must first learn the difference between their own thoughts and those thoughts that are slowly creeping in over time to establish an easy entry way into your behavior. http://synthetictelepathy.com/ http://www.whale.to/b/telepathy.html http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so..._mindcon10.htm http://groups.google.com/group/comp....34531ceea9946# http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008...my-funds-synt/ http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/gwen.htm http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2009/01/31...al-connection/ http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/projects.html Last edited by Christo888; 09-17-2009 at 04:31 AM.

09-17-2009, 08:59 PM	#21
Unified Serenity Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 893	Re: What's going on in media I just saw this: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._violence.html Pelosi warning of political violence? Hmmm, seems they are stoking the fires. Getting ready to blame the "right wing extremists" so when their planted agents start it the people will know who to blame.

09-18-2009, 12:46 AM	#22
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: What's going on in media The media WANTS you to be a bigot, hence their attempt to turn people against each other. Ignore their charade and continue to spread love.

09-18-2009, 01:08 AM	#23
happyhollergal Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What's going on in media Normally, I'm a peace loving person, but in the case of Pelosi, I hope she sheds many tears. I don't wish anything physically harmful to happen to her, but she and all the others that have been up to no good in DC do need to be very afraid of losing their positions of power, and being exposed to the masses for what they've done. Pelosi is an actress, but the people have started to realize that. After the nearly 2 million folks showed up last Saturday, I think it spoke loudly and clearly that ordinary citizens are really fed up with the way the country has been run, and they're ready to take their country back by kicking them all out of office and starting over, with Constitution abiding new faces. Pelosi also happens to be one of the main reasons that Ron Paul's Audit The Fed bill has taken this long for them to decide on a hearing date to begin. She wanted no part of it, but I do believe she's starting to see that her days are numbered.

09-18-2009, 01:28 AM	#24
Fredkc Project Avalon Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Riverside, ca. Posts: 898	Re: What's going on in media To begin with the topic; I stopped participating. We stopped watching "regular TV" in about 1987. Never looked back. We are avid movie watcher, but very rarely see commercials. Stopped watching the news in late 2001. I feel truly sorry for anyone who still gets their information from a network. Instead I get my news from reading. I read 4-6 hours a day. Two benefits: 1. You get a fairly well developed "BS-meter" for the written word, that way. 2. You don't have to sit through **, then commercials, just to find out if the next story is also . Sure shortens your day! Race; Because of how I grew up I've become a "rabid egalitarian". (more later, perhaps) There is no doubt that people of all color keep the race issue alive for personal, and political gain. They make forgiveness very difficult. One of the most intelligent thinks I ever hear on the matter is about 15 years old, and I cannot remember the source: "The question of race, in this country, would benefit most by a 20 year period of benign neglect." If thats too lofty, think of what mom told ya: "Don't pick it! It'll NEVER heal!" Fred __________________ "Life IS mystical! It's just that we're used to it" Evil cannot be killed. Only redeemed. Chat us up at: Avalon Chat**

09-18-2009, 09:33 AM	#25
lucrum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 209	Re: What's going on in media I think this particular issue goes worldwide, at least in western countries. We have it right here, in Norway, maybe even worse than many other places. I don't know if some or all of you read or heard about the incident in Congo, with two norwegians being sentenced to death by the military court down there. The trial was an absolute farse, a comedy. No real evidence, outrageous claims and even accusations directly towards Norway for sending spies to Congo. What have our foreign affairs office done in this case? Nothing... Nothing at all... Are they guilty? Hard to tell, cause no one can really come up with anything solid to say either this or that. They are just guilty, I suspect even if proven otherwise. The Norwegian government refused to step in and take action, we have no right they say. Well ok, I can support that...IF...that was the general standard. It's not, not in a million years. "We" care so much about foreign individuals and their human rights, that "we" refuse to deliver KNOWN terrorists and murderers back to their own countries government officials. "We" hide behind human rights, "we" can't deliver them until "we" get an absolute proof that they will not be tortured or killed. We intervene with other nations trials, to spare the life and decency of cold blooded killers. Our own kind, you ask? Nah, Congo is probably right in their claims. We can't question them, after all they are a poor people and they are African. How could we ever bring sanctions upon them, who we give millions or billions in aid, for not giving our boys a fair trial and decent treatment. No no, we just beg on our knees that they don't kill them and happily kiss the dirt in front of their feet for being so kind. I'm no racist, not at all. I love diversity, we need diversity. I completely despise the trickery and lies that decieve so many to believe we are so different. The ones that tell us that what our ancestors did is up to us to repay. It doesn't work like that. If it did, shouldn't everyone be in jail? Can a single family ancestry with a hand on their heart and sworn truth say that NO ONE in their family ever did anything wrong? I don't think so...the chapter of our lives that sadly enough contain harsh stories of slavery and murder against the "blacks", the "yellow" or the "red", it is not our burden to carry. We shall learn, not re-live! It's going on as we speak, right here, over there. I hope we learn to unite, I'll concentrate on this for everyone that still don't see.