ancient site discovered

[KathyT]

Originally Posted by unlimited mind

quickie update:

the site is much older than the cherokee. still have not met with the tribal leaders, but will finally do that on monday. took marshall mc clung to the site with his friend hoot gibbs yesterday. they were amazed, and especially with the footprints that are embedded into several large slabs. they did not want to go into the waterfall site.

this place is pristine right now, as far as the energy is concerned, and my guidance is continuing to remind me to keep it that way until i can find the group that is suppose to work with the energy. i think that might be the local tribe here, so keeping my hopes up for that adventure.

more updates after the first of next week probably, unless i can get in touch with an archeologist that might be interested in this site.

I'd be interested in what Marshall McClung had to say... unless you didn't want to reveal his comments in an open forum.

What about all the University departments I gave you by PM? Have you tried calling them personally? Because it is summer, the department heads may not be on campus all the time, but you have to start calling, and seeing who you can get, and ask those people to keep referring you to someone else they can get by phone.

I can't wait until you do get some answers from some professionals... because I do think it is worth looking into further!

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by KathyT

I'd be interested in what Marshall McClung had to say... unless you didn't want to reveal his comments in an open forum.

What about all the University departments I gave you by PM? Have you tried calling them personally? Because it is summer, the department heads may not be on campus all the time, but you have to start calling, and seeing who you can get, and ask those people to keep referring you to someone else they can get by phone.

I can't wait until you do get some answers from some professionals... because I do think it is worth looking into further!

both marshall and hoot validated the theory that this site is older than the cherokee, but they did add that it was just their opinion. the waterfall site is absolute proof of this, as those slabs and the terrain would be impossible without some serious 'know how'.

i have called, emailed, and went to offices. what i am observing right now, is that the people that are going to be apart of this, will become available. i am meeting TJ Holland on monday, whose name was given to me by Marshall. TJ was an easy connect and he immediately wanted to check it out. his mother, who i talked to earlier that day, is full blood cherokee and is very active with the tribe.

basically what i am saying, is this process is unfolding as it should, with the people who will carry this forward in a reverent way. this has already been demonstrated to me many times. in one instance, one of the folks i emailed who is a part of the forestry service, looked at the face photo, and his first impression was that it was erosion. i laughed pretty hard when i read that. after i finally talked with him on the phone, he had a fuller picture and is now going to visit the site when he returns from vacation.

national geograhic (just heard back from the today) would like the same proof as you Kathy. so this is one of the next steps. the two V's verifying and validity

BIG LOVE

[Orion11]

wow!!

sooo exciting!!

I love this!!
I love you!! lol

those symbols/carvings on the waterfalls are interesting..
the only thing that came to mind when seeing it was this symbol...
"butterfly", it symbolizes everlasting life....

well.. i guess i cant upload a pic....
i tried earlier on another thread and couldnt there either..
hmm... :edit: also.. i suddenly got infected with a virus while trying to upload. lol
i never get viruses.
what the ef..... lol

well, if you look up the native american symbol for everlasting life,
youll see what i mean,

but im prolly way off. lol
just the first thing i thought of when i saw your pic.
thanks for sharing...
this is great!!!

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by Orion11

wow!!

sooo exciting!!

I love this!!
I love you!! lol

those symbols/carvings on the waterfalls are interesting..
the only thing that came to mind when seeing it was this symbol...
"butterfly", it symbolizes everlasting life....

well.. i guess i cant upload a pic....
i tried earlier on another thread and couldnt there either..
hmm... :edit: also.. i suddenly got infected with a virus while trying to upload. lol
i never get viruses.
what the ef..... lol

well, if you look up the native american symbol for everlasting life,
youll see what i mean,

but im prolly way off. lol
just the first thing i thought of when i saw your pic.
thanks for sharing...
this is great!!!

just found this on the everlasting life lead. two of my friends have intuitively mentioned 'eternal' and 'timeless', so everlasting fits right in to the mix.

[KathyT]

Originally Posted by unlimited mind

both marshall and hoot validated the theory that this site is older than the cherokee, but they did add that it was just their opinion. the waterfall site is absolute proof of this, as those slabs and the terrain would be impossible without some serious 'know how'.

national geograhic (just heard back from the today) would like the same proof as you Kathy. so this is one of the next steps. the two V's verifying and validity

You've heard from National Geographic! That is great! You're on the right path. Good work!

I don't know that I'm looking for "proof"... I'm just hoping the experts will get interested and do the serious study needed... and it looks like you've got the ball rolling! And I hope you get the credit you deserve for finding it. Makes you wonder that no one noticed it for the past 100 years, particularly when there is a picnic table placed right there, that is the funny part!

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by KathyT

You've heard from National Geographic! That is great! You're on the right path. Good work!

I don't know that I'm looking for "proof"... I'm just hoping the experts will get interested and do the serious study needed... and it looks like you've got the ball rolling! And I hope you get the credit you deserve for finding it. Makes you wonder that no one noticed it for the past 100 years, particularly when there is a picnic table placed right there, that is the funny part!

national geographic will be very interested once someone with the right capital letters behind their name verifies the site in some way. personally, i have no doubts, so that is what i am beaming out there to whomever is listening.

it might not be a bad idea to get an expert to look at what we are calling the 'footprints'. this will need to be an on site investigation (unless we figure out a way to model them), because i have tried every way possible to photograph these, and it is really really hard to get the detail needed. (there are a few photographic equipment needs i have right now. plus, the next time i go to the water fall site, i am hauling the tripod up with me to see if i can get some better photos.)

and you are right about the easy access to the 'face' site. i spoke to the local store owner, the man that gave me marshall's name, and he told me that he had climbed all over those slabs before. but because of the steep grade around the site, he never ventured further. he also never noticed all of the other things (the notch, carvings, or the chamber).

also, as i was near the top of the waterfall, i heard a car go by. and since i had reported this to the forest rangers before i met marshall and hoot, i thought that it could be someone from there. as i was leaving the waterfall i decided to see if it was one of the rangers i spoke to. (found a turtle marching up the center of the lane going up) it wasn't a ranger, and that person did not notice anything interesting about the site either.

i guess it is perception. and both jodi and i think that everything is a mystery, so everything is interesting and captivating. lol. we were feeling our way around the day we found it, so i am sure that had something to do with it too. jodi has not been back yet, and i can hardly wait for her to go back with me.

the face site has had more traffic over the years, for sure. and maybe one of the things that will happen, is that the energy between all the different sites will be connected and balanced once again. i am constantly getting guidance to find the group that can work with this energy before the entire site is widely known. this is the biggest message so far. getting it reported and documented is further down the list, although getting to know the site is really all i am documenting so far.

the probable reason the waterfall has not been thoroughly documented and explored, is the difficulty of the actual site. marshall said he had climbed the thing many years ago, i think he may be in his late 60's, and he felt that it was quite odd, but he didn't think to investigate it further.

now everything is coming alive. i really hope that there have been artifacts found that were out of place and are in a box in some storage room somewhere. this way we can expand the picture a bit more.

[Orion11]

validated the theory that this site is older than the cherokee,

sure feels that way.

[cosmictexan]

Unlimited mind,

There is a show on tonite Wed. 7/15/09 on PBS called Time Team America and they are investigating an ancient site in South Carolina that is said to be the oldest know North America site. It may be connected to your site in some way. I am taping the show and will let you know what they found if the show is not on in your area. I am so excited about your find and can't wait for more info. Here is the web page for the show.

http://www.pbs.org/opb/timeteam/

I think you can watch the show online if you can't see it tonight.

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

Unlimited mind,

There is a show on tonite Wed. 7/15/09 on PBS called Time Team America and they are investigating an ancient site in South Carolina that is said to be the oldest know North America site. It may be connected to your site in some way. I am taping the show and will let you know what they found if the show is not on in your area. I am so excited about your find and can't wait for more info. Here is the web page for the show.

http://www.pbs.org/opb/timeteam/

I think you can watch the show online if you can't see it tonight.

very cool cosmictexan! thanks so much for passing this on. hopefully i will be able to see the show online.

just visited the sites again on monday, and found more markings on other slabs in the general area. so far, there are remnants covering a 3-4 mile area, and will probably encompass more once i walk further up, over, and around the mountains there.

did a closer investigation of the slab area, and that is the only area on the entire waterfall with the block slab construction that is so very obvious. so, my instincts are indicating a definite chamber under the slab, built in to the waterfall.

had some really great folks here initiate contact with me from this forum about the site, and i just wanted to say thank you for the research help AND the interest. linda baker passed on some info to me and somehow has disappeared. so if you are out there linda, please contact me.

more soon..............

[lindabaker]

Originally Posted by unlimited mind

very cool cosmictexan! thanks so much for passing this on. hopefully i will be able to see the show online.



had some really great folks here initiate contact with me from this forum about the site, and i just wanted to say thank you for the research help AND the interest. linda baker passed on some info to me and somehow has disappeared. so if you are out there linda, please contact me.

more soon..............

I will forward all our emails once again. Linda

[unlimited mind]

Originally Posted by lindabaker

I will forward all our emails once again. Linda

hey there linda
thanks so much, they arrived safely in my inbox. i will contact lucy in the next few days once i have the new section on the website built. thinking about borrowing my neighbors video camera for the next trip.