Bill & Kerry_Re; Dr. Steven Greer....

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by BROOK

here are the first two of a series of 13 on a conference in Denver this year...
for any body that missed it

YouTube - Steven Greer 2009 - Part 1 of 13

YouTube - Steven Greer 2009 - Part 2 of 13

Brilliant thanks Brook, I had missed this one.

Tango if you're not supporting Dr Greer, why are you even on this forum?
To wallow in your own hubris? Snap out of it.

Dr Greer is an unbelievably courageous man of enormous integrity who has moved mountains for all of us who dont like drowning in pollution while we are taxed to the eyballs and being systematically lied to while the planet is being raped and we are all getting f__ked in the a__ by the oil cartel.
Let alone his CE-5 contact protocols and diplomatic efforts on a scale never before seen to bring earth out of the dark ages and into 'enlightened contact and awareness'.

But no, you got a bad 'vibe' so you try to undermine and defame him here. Sickening.

T_R_U_L_Y

Luminari

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Luminari

Tango if you're not supporting Dr Greer, why are you even on this forum?




Luminari

I hope Lumianri you wanted to say on this thread, not forum....

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I hope Lumianri you wanted to say on this thread, not forum....

No I meant it. I will defend real lightworkers at any cost.

This is part of the reason I dont want to be an active part of this forum anymore..

Too many I don't resonate with here throwing their sceptical cr_p around.

You stay... I'll leave.

You can't even find a decent thread to read without skimming through 100 posts about Obama, michael jackson, iran, planes crashing, the economy.

Im sorry this is just so disappointing what happened to this forum.
There are many of you I deeply respect, I will keep in contact.
But for serious research I need to go elsewhere.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Luminari

No I meant it. I will defend real lightworkers at any cost.

This is part of the reason I dont want to be an active part of this forum anymore..

Too many I don't resonate with here throwing their sceptical cr_p around.

You stay... I'll leave.

You can't even find a decent thread to read without skimming through 100 posts about Obama, michael jackson, iran, planes crashing, the economy.

Im sorry this is just so disappointing what happened to this forum.
There are many of you I deeply respect, I will keep in contact.
But for serious research I need to go elsewhere.

I think there must be something in the air because today I also feel like lashing out at just anybody at hand.... What maybe of interest to you doesn't have to be of interest to others. when it comes to economy, I just skip most of it as I'm not interested in it. Just do the same....

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Luminari: Could you recommend a forum? I don't ask this sarcastically. This forum is a collection of a lot of different people with a wide variety of interests...including the topic of Michael Jackson(did the CIA do it?). But is there a forum which exclusively consists of serious researchers and professionals? I wouldn't dream of participating...but it would be fun to simply watch them go head to head.

You mentioned Obama, Michael Jackson, Iran, planes crashing, and the economy. Michael Jackson probably doesn't belong on Avalon...but the other subjects are very relevant to this forum. I especially appreciate the links to lectures and interviews...some of which are quite scholarly. Some of us...including me...may burn out on the heavy subjects...and seek relief in some of the National Equirer type subjects. Seeking the truth can be a traumatic activity...especially if the bad guys and gals don't want us to find out who we really are...and to learn what is really going on in the universe.

Orthodoxy: Im not much of a forum ****, I read alot of books and monitor websites maybe I could get back to you if I ever did find the UFO/spiritual truthseeker Shangri-La but I don't think I need to be posting on forums.. my gems tend to get overlooked or discarded as fool's gold by people with different priorities anyway. I am great with people face-to-face if we met in real life we would all get along great. Through the looking glass of computer land so much gets lost. Posers can be kings, so hard to tell who is genuine and who is a wanna be when you cant look people in the eye and shake their hand, feel their soundwaves resonating integrity (or B.S.).

My one piece of solid advice for you personally at this time since you did ask (kind of) read the VOYAGERS books 1 & 2. Thank me later. You will be very happy you did.

Originally Posted by burgundia

I think there must be something in the air because today I also feel like lashing out at just anybody at hand.... What maybe of interest to you doesn't have to be of interest to others. when it comes to economy, I just skip most of it as I'm not interested in it. Just do the same....

I just climbed the world's highest freestanding pyramid on my own today (over 3000 feet) and ran back down it! So yes I am a little tired.

However as much as the prolific political posters hate to admit it we are on what is essentially a UFO forum and to see a member denigrating The Disclosure Project as if its no big deal and nobody even blinking is poor form.

Defending the integrity of the subject matter at hand and key players is not simply 'lashing out'. But whatever.. I dont care about the semantics of this place anymore, sorry for hijacking this thread. Carry on 'voicing your opinions' if thats what you call character assassination.

Dr Greer has done more for freedom than anybody since Gandhi.

[burgundia]

In part 3 check the chair behind greer, about 1:10. Somebody noticed it today...

[Tango]

No Problem.... What You should do is " drop to your knees " and pray to
your savior... He, will lead you into the light... Save YOU...

I think YOU should buy everything he wants to sell... Every Disc... program...
Lecture of the information he has gleaned from all those vets and civilians
while working in mil. positions... Think, what are those past mil. people
getting for what they have given him. What kind of support is he giving
them for each sale he makes. To me its about 'paying it forward.' Not what
one sells. Once again, he has gotten a lot of information from veterans
and civilians in good faith... As you said " In the disclosure project " but
YOU have to PAY for what he was given without compensation... Those vets
gave of themselves including documents, showed their faces, opened their
hearts... What do THEY GET...? What do their families GET....

YOU should give him ALL your money... Buy EVERYTHING... Who aaaa...
Even EM doctors put there pants on one leg at a time... They are Not Gods.

Sorry, I don't walk the way YOU want ME to walk...! Sorry, I don't believe
what YOU demand I'm to believe... Cause YOU don't know me, or what I've
done, or what MY own eyes have seen, MY experiences that I've learned
from. There is NO ONE coming to save us... We have to SAVE ourselves...

There are 'some' here that KNOW of my history; what I've done, who I am.

I've asked if I should BACK OFF.... The Mod said NO... I pay it forward
everyday... everyweek... everymonth... every year... I don't ask FOR
MONEY...

Now, Its MY TURN... What do YOU do for others... How do YOU Pay it
forward... How many beings have YOU helped....?

Wow.... He has moved mountains; I impressed Now. Which mountain...?

Very trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by Luminari

Brilliant thanks Brook, I had missed this one.

Tango if you're not supporting Dr Greer, why are you even on this forum?
To wallow in your own hubris? Snap out of it.

Dr Greer is an unbelievably courageous man of enormous integrity who has moved mountains for all of us who dont like drowning in pollution while we are taxed to the eyballs and being systematically lied to while the planet is being raped and we are all getting f__ked in the a__ by the oil cartel.
Let alone his CE-5 contact protocols and diplomatic efforts on a scale never before seen to bring earth out of the dark ages and into 'enlightened contact and awareness'.

But no, you got a bad 'vibe' so you try to undermine and defame him here. Sickening.

T_R_U_L_Y

Luminari

[Jnana]

Tango wrote:
To me its about 'paying it forward.' Not what
one sells. Once again, he has gotten a lot of information from veterans
and civilians in good faith... As you said " In the disclosure project " but
YOU have to PAY for what was given without compensation... Those vets
gave of themselves including documents, showed their faces, opened their
hearts... What do THEY GET...? What do their families GET....

I am VERY GRATEFUL to all who contributed information to the Disclosure Project. This information was central to my awakening process less than two years ago. I have met other people for whom the Disclosure Project was VERY VERY IMPORTANT in their awakening.

The rewards to those who took a risk for the Disclosure Project may not be immediate and monetary, but please try to look at the bigger picture just a little. These awakenings, happening one by one, often in private, are what it's going to take for us pathetic humans to get enough of a clue to save our sorry selves. What do the vets and families get? A much better world if good things keep happening because of the risk they took.

It may be difficult to see the impact these brave men and women have had on the world at this point in time, but I'm convinced it's huge. They have my deepest respect.

One other point. The fact that the Disclosure Project witness were NOT paid was very important in establishing their credibility. If they all had something to gain financially, it would have detracted from the impact of their testimony. It was important to me in my decision to believe what they had to say.

The information they provided should continue to get out to everyone who is ready to receive it. Much of it *is* available for free on YouTube and such, but printing books is expensive and I wouldn't expect to get a book for free. I'm happy to pay for a book or video in order to ensure that this information continues to be available to others.