**COPIED FROM JL FORUM as per Bill ** John Lear

johnlear · 09-15-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoinTheFun

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Startrek's the Borg, although basically having physical bodies, but where parts have been added or replaced by technology and communication is built in, no individual volition.

But your answer was most are human as we know humans, so my question is, are there beings similar to Borg, where biology has been married to technology in a godless way ?

No. We are souls looking and waiting to mature. Our bodies are just temporary containers. The soul is anchored to the body by the blood. When you die your soul goes to a new born baby and you continue your quest to live with integrity; and to live without envy, hate or greed.

arcora · 09-15-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by johnlear

When you die your soul goes to a new born baby and you continue your quest to live with integrity; and to live without envy, hate or greed.

As the population increases, where do the new souls come from?

CONDE · 09-15-2008, 04:09 PM

To have Captain Lear here, answering ALL your questions with such
amazing clarity is the closest I have been to GOD.

I feel GOD is speaking trhu Captain John Lear, the next questions you
ask, should be bearing that concept IN MIND & SPIRIT !.

I also feel GOD is getting bored and that could be the worst mistake
we can ALL make at tis moment.

That also came from somewhere,not me.

I LOVE YOU ALL !

Frank Conde
www.deathisnormal.com

johnlear · 09-15-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by arcora

As the population increases, where do the new souls come from?

The Great Soul Making Machine In Outer Space. Where else?

fred80 · 09-15-2008, 06:20 PM

Hi John!
Like so many, I'm a big fan of you! I've read and heard you talking extensively on a number of subjects. However, you have not elaborated so much on what kind of life you believe exist on the other planets - except Mars I think. Could you tell us some more, and how you know or why you believe this to be true??

Best regards
Fred, Norway

johnlear · 09-15-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fred80

Hi John!
Like so many, I'm a big fan of you! I've read and heard you talking extensively on a number of subjects. However, you have not elaborated so much on what kind of life you believe exist on the other planets - except Mars I think. Could you tell us some more, and how you know or why you believe this to be true??

Best regards
Fred, Norway

There is life similar to ours on all planets and most of their moons and many, many space station/cities in the solar system. Many types look like humans many do not. So much is going on in our solar system, so much commerce, so much travel, so many activities by so many different types.

We are being fed downright unadulterated bs about all of our planets. The pictures you see of all planets are false. The pictures you are being fed and told are from Mars are from here on earth as were the photos from Pathfinder in 1997 which were taken in Death Valley.

The only gas giants in our solar system are NASA and its illegitimate son Jim Oberg, Chief Disinformation Officer (ret.)

fred80 · 09-15-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by johnlear

There is life similar to ours on all planets and most of their moons and many, many space station/cities in the solar system. Many types look like humans many do not. So much is going on in our solar system, so much commerce, so much travel, so many activities by so many different types.

We are being fed downright unadulterated bs about all of our planets. The pictures you see of all planets are false. The pictures you are being fed and told are from Mars are from here on earth as were the photos from Pathfinder in 1997 which were taken in Death Valley.

The only gas giants in our solar system are NASA and its illegitimate son Jim Oberg, Chief Disinformation Officer (ret.)

Thanks John for your input.
Interesting .. I remember sitting up and waiting to four o'clock in the morning, before the images from Pathfinder finally were shown on BBC live. Now you tell me they where from Death Valley.. I feel cheated!!

Life on Pluto - hard to swallow, but I guess you never know the way NASA 's farting dissinformation..

Fred

johnlear · 09-15-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fred80

Thanks John for your input.
Interesting .. I remember sitting up and waiting to four o'clock in the morning, before the images from Pathfinder finally were shown on BBC live. Now you tell me they where from Death Valley.. I feel cheated!!

Life on Pluto - hard to swallow, but I guess you never know the way NASA 's farting dissinformation..

Fred

See, what NASA doesn't tell you is that the Sun is an electromagnetic sphere. Its not a nuclear reactor or nuclear generator or anything nuclear. It does not radiate heat as such. Its not true that the farther the planets are away from the sun the colder they or or that the nearer the warmer. Thats bs. All planets have an atmosphere that filters the radiation of the electromagnetism and creates the proper temperature usually around 72 degrees F. Some are higher some are lower but here is no melting lead on Mercury or freezing polar bears on Pluto.

Bigfatfurrytexan · 09-15-2008, 09:39 PM

That is a fair assessment, John.

Look at Mercury for an example of this. There is ice in the polar regions, in the bottom of craters. One would expect Mercury to be thermodynamic enough that, given its relative distance from the Sun, it would have boiled off all traces of water/ice LOOOOONG ago.

Many people say "Well, it just evaporates and reforms when the crater is in shadow". Ok...where does the water come from? Once it melts, one would expect it to sublimate into space, never for Mercury to see it again. Yet, it hasn't.

I also wonder if EM must be present for gravity? In other words, if Planet X wasn't a bunch of crap (or Nibiru), could it languish in relative obscurity until it became close enough to our Sun for it to gain enough gravity to effect other system bodies?

09-16-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigfatfurrytexan

I also wonder if EM must be present for gravity? In other words, if Planet X wasn't a bunch of crap (or Nibiru), could it languish in relative obscurity until it became close enough to our Sun for it to gain enough gravity to effect other system bodies?

Oh YOU WOULD toss something like that into the mix

Now we will HAVE to do the gravity thread

09-16-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fred80

I remember sitting up and waiting to four o'clock in the morning, before the images from Pathfinder finally were shown on BBC live. Now you tell me they where from Death Valley.. I feel cheated!!

Oh yes... and we have the proof ya know... from NASA itself...

Pathfinder was the Lander... Sojourner was the Rover

Here it is snooping around in Death Valley...

And that's not all...

Surveyor sitting on a Beach in California... sand is kinda reddish...

And here is Carl Sagan posing with the Viking Lander also taken in Death Valley...

And here is a lesson in ..

How to Fake a Martian Scene

In case your wondering where they parked the...

Lunar Excursion Module (LEM)

I spotted it under a tree...

You can see it on Google Earth +39 57' 27.87", -75 10' 24.54"

Also spotted THIS one... no idea who it belongs to though

King Lear · 09-16-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by zorgon

In case your wondering where they parked the...

Lunar Excursion Module (LEM)

I spotted it under a tree...

You can see it on Google Earth +39 57' 27.87", -75 10' 24.54"

Also spotted THIS one... no idea who it belongs to though

Really crazy that they parked the LEM in the middle of Philadelphia, right on the lawn. One would think that such important thing would be parked in a hangar or something similar. Just to conservate it, not exactely to hide it.

What about the last image? Where exactely can we find it? Coordinates?
Thanks

09-16-2008, 10:04 AM

No way Thats a Secret

But I will give you the one parked on the runway...

milk and honey · 09-15-2008, 07:31 PM

What about inner space John?

If there are hyperdimensional beings that can enter and exit the gross material plane then why can't the soul enter more subtle dimensions for further experience after 'death'? Or even before?

If those beings can travel through extra- physical dimensions in their subtle bodies why can't we? The subtle bodies are containers too. eg, the astral and etheric bodies. Do the subtle bodies die with the physical body? No.

Could they contain the soul in higher dimensions for higher experience in a similar way as the physical body does for physical experience? Of course they can. Some incarnate souls can leave the body before death and travel through the higher planes as easily as diving into a pool of water.

I like to think of the soul as a being which is contained in matter yet is a connected portion of the spiritual-Self in spirit. "As above so below". When you speak of such a limited process of reincarnation maybe you are referring to soulless incarnate entities who's only option at physical death is immediate transmigration into a new body? I Can't speak for you so i don't know your view on whether soulless automatons exist. John?

In the body, the light energy of the soul is most concentrated in the blood, true. But there is far more to the soul than what is contained in the blood. That's like saying the sun is contained in the Earth merely because the sun's light rays reach the earth and are contained in plants and animals through photo-synthesis and plant consumption. This is a fair analogy too because physical beings consume plants and flesh and blood for the simple reason that we must be physically sustained by energy from these secondary sources. The energy locked within these sources is taken for sustenance by physical beings who have not perfected the soul so as to draw sustenance directly from the spirit within -- the sun center of our spiritual- Self -- which is the source of all energy and form.

Does anyone still wonder why the dark ones find us so attractive? They're cut off from the source and need a continual fix from those who are still connected to source, however tenuously.

John... "What is divinity and spirit"? You asked that question like you consider them phantoms.

As far as words can tell...

Divinity is the spiritual- Self of each person whose origin is on the spiritual plane beyond the physical. A portion of the spiritual- Self --the soul -- is connected to that Self (by the crystal chord) yet has plunged into a lower body in which it is now 'contained'. Spirit is the shore, the body is the boat and the soul is the captain. The weather is all energy ever drawn from inner spirit by the incarnate soul and which is now returning to it in the same quality and measure with which it was ever expressed. One day calm and sunny, another a hurricane.

Spirit is the origin of every manifest form including our gross physical body and subtle soul. It is the essence of every thing. Spirit is a very high frequency intelligent energy which originates in the spiritual- Self and because the soul is deeply connected to it, it is accessible even at the 3d level right within our own hearts. It's called love, yet love is not behavior and sweet words per se. Anyone can pretend those. It is an energy which can descend from the divine- Self into the soul and infuse our outer words and behavior. Spiritual energy enters 3d through the doors of the chakras. Without the flow of love from the inner source, there can be no positive personal change because there is no positive energy to achieve it. Only the spiritual energy within us can dissolve hate, greed, envy and deceit.

When we access this inner light it can literally shine like the sun and dissolve all the corruptions of our own psyche as it moves through the emotional depths of our own being. The "divine motor" can fill the soul (and yes the blood) with more light energy and motivate loving service to others. It is the elixer of eternal life. It catalyses self-transformation and growth (soul maturity) because it raises the vibration of all that it contacts. Starting with ourselves.

That's why talking to spirit and giving mantras and songs can be uplifting. It primes the inner pump at the source of all life.

09-15-2008, 04:09 PM	#3
CONDE Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hollywood Florida Posts: 127	Re: John Lear To have Captain Lear here, answering ALL your questions with such amazing clarity is the closest I have been to GOD. I feel GOD is speaking trhu Captain John Lear, the next questions you ask, should be bearing that concept IN MIND & SPIRIT !. I also feel GOD is getting bored and that could be the worst mistake we can ALL make at tis moment. That also came from somewhere,not me. I LOVE YOU ALL ! Frank Conde www.deathisnormal.com

09-15-2008, 06:20 PM	#5
fred80 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 16	Re: John Lear Hi John! Like so many, I'm a big fan of you! I've read and heard you talking extensively on a number of subjects. However, you have not elaborated so much on what kind of life you believe exist on the other planets - except Mars I think. Could you tell us some more, and how you know or why you believe this to be true?? Best regards Fred, Norway

09-15-2008, 09:39 PM	#9
Bigfatfurrytexan Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 151	Re: John Lear That is a fair assessment, John. Look at Mercury for an example of this. There is ice in the polar regions, in the bottom of craters. One would expect Mercury to be thermodynamic enough that, given its relative distance from the Sun, it would have boiled off all traces of water/ice LOOOOONG ago. Many people say "Well, it just evaporates and reforms when the crater is in shadow". Ok...where does the water come from? Once it melts, one would expect it to sublimate into space, never for Mercury to see it again. Yet, it hasn't. I also wonder if EM must be present for gravity? In other words, if Planet X wasn't a bunch of crap (or Nibiru), could it languish in relative obscurity until it became close enough to our Sun for it to gain enough gravity to effect other system bodies?

09-16-2008, 10:04 AM	#13
zorgon Guest Posts: n/a	Re: John Lear No way Thats a Secret But I will give you the one parked on the runway...

09-15-2008, 07:31 PM	#14
milk and honey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 222	Re: John Lear What about inner space John? If there are hyperdimensional beings that can enter and exit the gross material plane then why can't the soul enter more subtle dimensions for further experience after 'death'? Or even before? If those beings can travel through extra- physical dimensions in their subtle bodies why can't we? The subtle bodies are containers too. eg, the astral and etheric bodies. Do the subtle bodies die with the physical body? No. Could they contain the soul in higher dimensions for higher experience in a similar way as the physical body does for physical experience? Of course they can. Some incarnate souls can leave the body before death and travel through the higher planes as easily as diving into a pool of water. I like to think of the soul as a being which is contained in matter yet is a connected portion of the spiritual-Self in spirit. "As above so below". When you speak of such a limited process of reincarnation maybe you are referring to soulless incarnate entities who's only option at physical death is immediate transmigration into a new body? I Can't speak for you so i don't know your view on whether soulless automatons exist. John? In the body, the light energy of the soul is most concentrated in the blood, true. But there is far more to the soul than what is contained in the blood. That's like saying the sun is contained in the Earth merely because the sun's light rays reach the earth and are contained in plants and animals through photo-synthesis and plant consumption. This is a fair analogy too because physical beings consume plants and flesh and blood for the simple reason that we must be physically sustained by energy from these secondary sources. The energy locked within these sources is taken for sustenance by physical beings who have not perfected the soul so as to draw sustenance directly from the spirit within -- the sun center of our spiritual- Self -- which is the source of all energy and form. Does anyone still wonder why the dark ones find us so attractive? They're cut off from the source and need a continual fix from those who are still connected to source, however tenuously. John... "What is divinity and spirit"? You asked that question like you consider them phantoms. As far as words can tell... Divinity is the spiritual- Self of each person whose origin is on the spiritual plane beyond the physical. A portion of the spiritual- Self --the soul -- is connected to that Self (by the crystal chord) yet has plunged into a lower body in which it is now 'contained'. Spirit is the shore, the body is the boat and the soul is the captain. The weather is all energy ever drawn from inner spirit by the incarnate soul and which is now returning to it in the same quality and measure with which it was ever expressed. One day calm and sunny, another a hurricane. Spirit is the origin of every manifest form including our gross physical body and subtle soul. It is the essence of every thing. Spirit is a very high frequency intelligent energy which originates in the spiritual- Self and because the soul is deeply connected to it, it is accessible even at the 3d level right within our own hearts. It's called love, yet love is not behavior and sweet words per se. Anyone can pretend those. It is an energy which can descend from the divine- Self into the soul and infuse our outer words and behavior. Spiritual energy enters 3d through the doors of the chakras. Without the flow of love from the inner source, there can be no positive personal change because there is no positive energy to achieve it. Only the spiritual energy within us can dissolve hate, greed, envy and deceit. When we access this inner light it can literally shine like the sun and dissolve all the corruptions of our own psyche as it moves through the emotional depths of our own being. The "divine motor" can fill the soul (and yes the blood) with more light energy and motivate loving service to others. It is the elixer of eternal life. It catalyses self-transformation and growth (soul maturity) because it raises the vibration of all that it contacts. Starting with ourselves. That's why talking to spirit and giving mantras and songs can be uplifting. It primes the inner pump at the source of all life.