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Old 09-12-2008, 04:41 AM   #1
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Are you takng about Aristarchus? An asteroid impact with uranium? What kind of uranium glows blue?



Yeah, you're probably correct.
Aristarchus? Yes, but beats me what color that is!

I am sure there is an element that may glow blue under certain conditions.
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Old 09-12-2008, 10:32 AM   #2
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Hi John, Obviously you believe Bob Lazar because he took you to see the Wednesday night flights himself. I also see on one of your Camelot interviews you seem to believe Dan Burisch too as do I.
What I would like to ask is what you make of David Adair- the young rocket builder of fusion rocketry that was taken to Groom Lake in the 70s I think, to see if he could make sense of the Greyhound bus sized alien power plant they had there.
He was also a NASA man too for many years according to his story. He talks of hanging out with Neil Armstrongs mother as a kid etc...and being helped along the way by general Curtis Le May.
From the interviews etc... I've seen of him he also seems crediblsome and believable, obviously an intelligent man. He was supposed to be one of Steven Greers disclosure witnesses but was treated rather poorly by him and has still as far as I know been given an explanation by Mr Greer.
And as for Stanton Friedman, who I do give cred to but am amazed by his attitude towards Bob Lazar too. Maybe just a simple case of professional jelousy! I'm sure he is very happy with the title of 'Grandfather of Roswell' etc... and modern Ufology. Then someone like Bob comes along with a way more exciting and fresh story and Stan maybe feels threatened! If Bob gets on the lecture circuit Stan might lose 'customers' to Bob. The fact that Bob never did this and really wants to put it all behind him just makes him more believable in my mind. Like you I know what I know and believe and don't really care whether others share my beliefs or not.
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:00 PM   #3
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Hi John, Obviously you believe Bob Lazar because he took you to see the Wednesday night flights himself. I also see on one of your Camelot interviews you seem to believe Dan Burisch too as do I.
Let me make it clear that what I believe about Dan Burisch is this: I believe Dan Burisch worked at S-4 as a microbiologist for the Navy and that he intereacted with a biological/cybernetic entity named the J-Rod.

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What I would like to ask is what you make of David Adair- the young rocket builder of fusion rocketry that was taken to Groom Lake in the 70s I think, to see if he could make sense of the Greyhound bus sized alien power plant they had there.
He was also a NASA man too for many years according to his story. He talks of hanging out with Neil Armstrongs mother as a kid etc...and being helped along the way by general Curtis Le May.
From the interviews etc... I've seen of him he also seems crediblsome and believable, obviously an intelligent man. He was supposed to be one of Steven Greers disclosure witnesses but was treated rather poorly by him and has still as far as I know been given an explanation by Mr Greer.
I do not believe the David Adair story. And let me add this: many people don't believe the Bob Lazar story simply because it was too fantastic. This reason I believe the Bob Lazat story is that I was there. I wasn't there for the David Adair story and don't know David Adair and therefore it could be true. But I don't believe it at this time.

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And as for Stanton Friedman, who I do give cred to but am amazed by his attitude towards Bob Lazar too. Maybe just a simple case of professional jelousy! I'm sure he is very happy with the title of 'Grandfather of Roswell' etc... and modern Ufology. Then someone like Bob comes along with a way more exciting and fresh story and Stan maybe feels threatened! If Bob gets on the lecture circuit Stan might lose 'customers' to Bob. The fact that Bob never did this and really wants to put it all behind him just makes him more believable in my mind. Like you I know what I know and believe and don't really care whether others share my beliefs or not.
Stan is what they called "Old School". He is set in his ways and if he didn't discover it it can't be true. As I have mentioned before Stan never met or interviewed Bob Lazar. Stan wants to see documented educational records after which he would probably find another excuse not to believe Bob.

I enjoy the privilege of having known Bob for ever 20 years and even having known Bob before he believed that flying saucers were real. I didn't ask to see his educational credentials before we drove out to Groom Lake to see the test flight of the flying saucer on March 22, 1989. The event was good enough for me.
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:49 PM   #4
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Aristarchus? Yes, but beats me what color that is!
Its a light blue.

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I am sure there is an element that may glow blue under certain conditions.
Unlikely:

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Out of the first 92 elements, 1 being hydrogen (H) and 92 being uranium (U), there are 90 that are naturally occuring. Technetium (Tc) and promethium (Pm) are man-made elements and do not have any isotopes occuring naturally.

One of the most common compounds of elements are the oxides, which is the compound that is produced when an element "rusts" in the presence of oxygen. Some are very reactive with air or water and do not last long in their elemental state, even if produced. Other elements, due to the arrangement of the outer shell of electrons, are very reactive with other elements and are never found out of a compound. Out of these 90 elements, 9 are gases and are usually found in their elemental states. Since many of them are inert gases, they are hard to find and even harder to pick up. There are 4 liquids: bromine (Br), cesium (Cs), gallium (Ga), and mercury (Hg).

http://www.hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q933.html
None of these have a blue glow. What does have a blue glow is the Cerenkov effect:

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Čerenkov radiation (also spelled Cerenkov or Cherenkov) is electromagnetic radiation emitted when a charged particle (such as a electron) passes through an insulator at a speed greater than the speed of light in that medium. The characteristic "blue glow" of nuclear reactors is due to Čerenkov radiation. It is named after Russian scientist Pavel Alekseyevich Čerenkov, the 1958 Nobel Prize winner who was the first to characterise it rigorously.

Unlike fluorescence or emission spectra that have characteristic spectral peaks, Čerenkov radiation is continuous. Around the visible spectrum, the relative intensity of one frequency is approximately proportional to the frequency. That is, higher frequencies (shorter wavelengths) are more intense in Čerenkov radiation. This is why visible Čerenkov radiation is observed to be brilliant blue. In fact, most Čerenkov radiation is in the ultraviolet spectrum - it is only with sufficiently accelerated charges that it even becomes visible; the sensitivity of the human eye peaks at green, and is very low in the violet portion of the spectrum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenk...on#cite_note-0
Your suggestion that it is a uranium asteroid is not supported by the facts:

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Uranium has the highest atomic weight of the naturally occurring elements. Uranium is approximately 70% more dense than lead, but not as dense as gold or tungsten. It is weakly radioactive. It occurs naturally in low concentrations (a few parts per million) in soil, rock and water, and is commercially extracted from uranium-bearing minerals such as uraninite (see uranium mining).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium
Uranium does not glow blue:

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The normal color of uranium glass ranges from yellow to green depending on the oxidation state and concentration of the metal ions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium
Now there a number of elements that occur in other solar systems that do not occur on earth.This is because the 2 main factors which determine the residual matter that remains after the creation of that solar system is the amount of electromagnetic energy and the amount of mass present at the time of the creation of that solar system.

However, it is unlikely that an element created in a solar system not similar to earth, flew to our solar system, landed on our moon, assembled itself into a dome topped hexagonal shape 26 miles in diameter and then started glowing blue.
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Old 09-12-2008, 06:13 PM   #5
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Its a light blue.



Unlikely:



None of these have a blue glow. What does have a blue glow is the Cerenkov effect:



Your suggestion that it is a uranium asteroid is not supported by the facts:



Uranium does not glow blue:



Now there a number of elements that occur in other solar systems that do not occur on earth.This is because the 2 main factors which determine the residual matter that remains after the creation of that solar system is the amount of electromagnetic energy and the amount of mass present at the time of the creation of that solar system.

However, it is unlikely that an element created in a solar system not similar to earth, flew to our solar system, landed on our moon, assembled itself into a dome topped hexagonal shape 26 miles in diameter and then started glowing blue.
I'll grant you that one.

But they don't need refineries on the Moon with FREE ENERGY for those 100 light year journeys.
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