what could this be?

06-10-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sno dome

i thought so too and still think you could be right.

it is just my camera usually resolves a jet as a jet. jets reveal jet-like features if i work the contrast and sharpen the image a bit. i just do not see that happening here. when i zoom right in i just see a rod. maybe a dragonfly chasing a beetle? cause i also see something black slightly in front of the thing in question.

edit: jet? maybe...

This looks like a communications satellite to me.

sno dome · 06-10-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by no caste

This looks like a communications satellite to me.

i am fairly certain that is what we are seeing.

the black dot near it on the other hand, no clue.

waitinginthewings · 06-10-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno dome

i am fairly certain that is what we are seeing.

the black dot near it on the other hand, no clue.

A jet plane would have a contrail, but that is not evident, so I don't know if its possible to see a satellite in daylight? Does anyone know what altitude a satellite is in orbit at?

As for the black spot, don't know, maybe a black UFO

Dantheman62 · 06-11-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

A jet plane would have a contrail, but that is not evident, so I don't know if its possible to see a satellite in daylight? Does anyone know what altitude a satellite is in orbit at?

As for the black spot, don't know, maybe a black UFO

Satellite altitudes start at around 100 miles and go up from there, so I think that object is way below 100 miles.

06-11-2009, 06:14 AM

My bet is on Airbus A330 (that's far away re sat/aircraft size differentiation), not a drone which is now typically used in combat situations -

There are A LOT of satellites orbiting earth - with commercial sats launched by the hundreds now, Japan, EU, Russia, China, ... E.g. Even Heineken is in the business -

Do you know where your beer is? Dutch beer maker Heineken wants to make sure - so it has put together a team that includes IBM and the University of Amsterdam to track beer by satellite.
http://www.space.com/businesstechnol...er_061107.html

Check this out

Fact sheet (PDF, 2pp)

Space surveillance (United States Space Command): http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usspc-fs/space.htm
Monitors satellites & space debris

Altitudes info...

http://www.esa.int/esaMI/Launchers_H...QOI4HNC_0.html

sno dome · 06-12-2009, 11:27 PM

i was looking through some other pictures from the same day as the original post.

well i am now a bit paranoid. this is definitely not a jet. i did not see it when i took the pictures and it does not have the form of a jet. plus these black spots.

i am a little confused at the perpetuation of the idea as ufo's being distinctly saucer shaped. that is so old school. these things are ethereal.

where to look:

full size image here (2.09MB)

sno dome · 06-13-2009, 06:07 AM

please bare with me.

after i made the post above i got some more shots of this thing. i was on my way to dinner when i saw a streak in the sky nearly miss what i thought was a jet. it went from left to right into clouds and looked like a meteorite. i discussed it with my girlfriend, mentioned that the pilot and maybe the passengers had to see it, and continued watching. as i watched the one "jet" move away from the cloud another one appeared, on the same path. i start to suspect this is the object that streaked in front of the other "jet."

a third one then appeared from the same spot in the clouds and continued on the same path as the previous two. i slowly start to realize these are not jets at all. i am certain civilian flights do not fly this close and they do not streak through the sky like shooting stars. then from out of nowhere a white spot materialized near the third object and followed it through the sky. i scrambled to take pictures and got three (while almost crashing).

P6128822 (1.96MB) - P6128824 (1.91MB) - P6128825 (1.95MB)

in the end i come here to get firm opinions on what i am seeing. i guess video would have been better. i certainly thought it was unusual and it spurred some interesting discussion with my girlfriend (she could not see any of the objects and only saw them on the lcd after). i urge people to look up as constantly as humanly possible (if you have good eyesight) and take pictures to examine. although pretty soon you might not need to examine minutiae. i would assume intelligence knows how to keep itself out of view. i think people take what they see in the sky for granted.

with all do respect i hope the story at least was entertaining.

06-11-2009, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste

This looks like a communications satellite to me.

A satellite was my first impression too!

06-11-2009, 06:14 AM	#5
no caste Guest Posts: n/a	Re: what could this be? My bet is on Airbus A330 (that's far away re sat/aircraft size differentiation), not a drone which is now typically used in combat situations - There are A LOT of satellites orbiting earth - with commercial sats launched by the hundreds now, Japan, EU, Russia, China, ... E.g. Even Heineken is in the business - Do you know where your beer is? Dutch beer maker Heineken wants to make sure - so it has put together a team that includes IBM and the University of Amsterdam to track beer by satellite. http://www.space.com/businesstechnol...er_061107.html Check this out Fact sheet (PDF, 2pp) Space surveillance (United States Space Command): http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usspc-fs/space.htm Monitors satellites & space debris Altitudes info... http://www.esa.int/esaMI/Launchers_H...QOI4HNC_0.html

06-12-2009, 11:27 PM	#6
sno dome Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56	Re: what could this be? i was looking through some other pictures from the same day as the original post. well i am now a bit paranoid. this is definitely not a jet. i did not see it when i took the pictures and it does not have the form of a jet. plus these black spots. i am a little confused at the perpetuation of the idea as ufo's being distinctly saucer shaped. that is so old school. these things are ethereal. where to look: full size image here (2.09MB)

06-13-2009, 06:07 AM	#7
sno dome Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 56	Re: what could this be? please bare with me. after i made the post above i got some more shots of this thing. i was on my way to dinner when i saw a streak in the sky nearly miss what i thought was a jet. it went from left to right into clouds and looked like a meteorite. i discussed it with my girlfriend, mentioned that the pilot and maybe the passengers had to see it, and continued watching. as i watched the one "jet" move away from the cloud another one appeared, on the same path. i start to suspect this is the object that streaked in front of the other "jet." a third one then appeared from the same spot in the clouds and continued on the same path as the previous two. i slowly start to realize these are not jets at all. i am certain civilian flights do not fly this close and they do not streak through the sky like shooting stars. then from out of nowhere a white spot materialized near the third object and followed it through the sky. i scrambled to take pictures and got three (while almost crashing). P6128822 (1.96MB) - P6128824 (1.91MB) - P6128825 (1.95MB) in the end i come here to get firm opinions on what i am seeing. i guess video would have been better. i certainly thought it was unusual and it spurred some interesting discussion with my girlfriend (she could not see any of the objects and only saw them on the lcd after). i urge people to look up as constantly as humanly possible (if you have good eyesight) and take pictures to examine. although pretty soon you might not need to examine minutiae. i would assume intelligence knows how to keep itself out of view. i think people take what they see in the sky for granted. with all do respect i hope the story at least was entertaining. Last edited by sno dome; 06-13-2009 at 06:13 AM.