Earth2 - The New Beginnings

[seircram]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Dear All:
I mean no-one here any personal disrespect when I offer my own (very strong and clear) opinion that the subject of this thread is nonsense.
It's the only word I can use. You have been grossly misinformed... in my opinion. Nothing like this is happening or will happen.
Very best wishes to all - Bill

No problem. The problem arises when people can not accept that they disagree, and then start wars over it

Though, we seem to be ragging on the validity of "channels", rather than the validity of the message.

Where does one start?

Do you believe in George Green's "channeled" books? Do you believe in reincarnation or heaven? Do you believe in ETs? Do you believe in Quantum Physics? Do you believe that the Illuminati/Rothchilds/NWO are dark forces at work? Do you believe in Spiritualism? Do you believe in Spirit Guides and/or Angels (or beings attributed to them)? Do you believe that some parts of the Bible (lost or found) are true? Do you believe that we are going to cross directly over the center of the Milky Way's black hole in winter 2012?

If you don't believe in any of these, then this thread probably is not believable.

If you do believe in (as least) some of these concepts, then how does one go about "proving" (or disproving) the concept of "Earth2".

David Wilcox talks about "ascending" in 2012 to a "higher vibrational" layer above earth. If one can believe that, then... who's to say what that "higher vibrational" state is going to take the form of?

Or do you just believe the planet is doomed and so are we?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by seircram

Though, we seem to be ragging on the validity of "channels", rather than the validity of the message.

Where does one start?

Simple, over the last few years in particular the internet has become flooded with these so called channels and from my observation, they all have generic messages that these entities feel we need to know. Yet there is never any real substance, messages are vague and general. But to your question, where does one start.

The first major key or component in any channeled info is validity. Can you give or quote ANY source where channeled info was validated? (shown to be correct) I don't just mean prediction, ANY form of validity for any channeled message? Even Mediums must have validation for their messages to show they are getting their info from "somewhere else"

Without it, it is just the ramblings of delusion, I would however like to be proved wrong!

[seircram]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

The first major key or component in any channeled info is validity. Can you give or quote ANY source where channeled info was validated? (shown to be correct)

The problem with this line of reasoning is that can you prove the channels ARE wrong?

This is like saying, "Can you prove that GOD exists?"

No, right now I can't -- if I could see him/her, talk to him/her, hear from him/her, and you could not, does that prove that GOD [fill in the blank] does not exist?

If I (or any channel, researcher, spiritualist, for that matter) say that in 2012 I/we/someone is going to "Ascend" to a new earth (earth2, an earth "2" vibrational levels above us, the same earth as now but in a "Golden Age", etc.), how can I prove I am "right" and how can someone else "prove" I am wrong?

Maybe we would both be right. There any many pointers that say, "We get what we believe in." In 2012, maybe what I believe is "true" will happen to me, and whatever you believe is true will happen to you.

There are better sources than I for arguing this point. I suggest a good recent book to read is "The Ark of Millions of Years - Vol. 3" (c2008) by Clark and Agnew.

Hey, even if I am wrong, big deal. I will either be dead (and know the truth) or be alive, and be feeling positive because I have followed a path of "Goodness" vs. non-goodness?... And, just in case, I have a big stash of supplies, enough land to grow crops on, precious metals, live in a nuclear free blast and fallout zone (but still have the Nuk masks, iodine and Geiger counter), and live on one of the few spots listed in most "Earth Change" maps as not being underwater.

[Kahunamahalo]

Poo

[seircram]

Originally Posted by Kahunamahalo

Poo

"Hubble Finds Unidentified Object in Space, Scientists Puzzled

This is exactly why we send astronauts to risk their life to service Hubble: in a paper published last week in the Astrophysical Journal, scientists detail the discovery of a new unidentified object in the middle of nowhere. I don't know about you, but when a research paper conclusion says "We suggest that the transient may be one of a new class" I get a chill of oooh-aaahness down my spine. Especially when after a hundred days of observation, it disappeared from the sky with no explanation. Get your tinfoil hats out, because it gets even weirder.

The object also appeared out of nowhere. It just wasn't there before. In fact, they don't even know where it is exactly located because it didn't behave like anything they know. Apparently, it can't be closer than 130 light-years but it can be as far as 11 billion light-years away. It's not in any known galaxy either. And they have ruled out a supernova too. It's something that they have never encountered before. In other words: they don't have a single clue about where or what the heck this thing is."

http://gizmodo.com/5049896/hubble-fi...bject-in-space

[sonique a. senshun]

Hey Nibiru was supposed to be coming in 2003... just as much stuff was on the net back then! Do you know what planet X is? A fear tactic. Makes you feel hopeless, powerless, desperate... feeding the negativity.
There are other sources of this "earth 2" theory, and they are to do with timelines... I believe, as proposed on camelot, that we are "off" the very negative path, and surfing the unknown... therefore creating it as we go. Let your higher self be your only guide and live in love every moment. That is the key.
Blessed be, *s*a*s*