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Old 04-17-2009, 12:50 PM   #1
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Default Re: Camelot responds to St Clair's blurb

Sorry Steve, I am not way off base. The thread he wrote this in was titled "the Camelot Entertainment" where he was specifically "bashing" Bill Ryan. I did not post this lightly and only did so after asking Bill Ryan if it would be helpul to shed some light. As a moderator, I thought you might be aware of this situation. I did do the neccessary research. I posted so that those who were curious and not a member of the St Clair site would have a clue as to what may be happening.

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Hi franciejones,

I'm afraid you're way off base on this one!

The 'Project Camelot' that St. Clair refers is in fact Project Camelot of the United States Army, started in 1964.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Camelot

I'm sure that in this case, a simple misquote could really put a spanner in the works as two other people on this thread who responded, openly thanked you for the information, which was not accurate.

Imagine the people who read the post and didn't reply thinking in the same way.

Let's do the necessary research people......

Best regards,

Steve
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:17 PM   #2
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Sorry Steve, I am not way off base. The thread he wrote this in was titled "the Camelot Entertainment" where he was specifically "bashing" Bill Ryan. I did not post this lightly and only did so after asking Bill Ryan if it would be helpul to shed some light.
Since this thread has gone on for so long, in such an energy draining manner, it seems like it would be about time for more complete transparency. All along it appeared to be a personality clash that should have been worked out between the parties involved by e-mail, or over the phone, so that all would present a more enlightened posture to their audiences...even if they're not that enlightened (because, who is?). Both St. Clair and PC have valuable information to share, and it's in their, and our, mutual interests to keep that front and center, instead of ego issues.

The worst of it are the hints at this and that, the cryptic posts on PC's page, and the parts of St. Clair's commentary taken out of context or hidden in his forum that have been posted here. They make both parties look as though they're trying to hide dirty laundry, which does nothing for the greater good that both are claiming to be aligned with.

So...in the interests of ending the distraction, it seems to me that Bill Ryan (being the subject of St. Clair's criticism), or a representative, should explain what's really up. It doesn't fly to make a statement that St. Clair is no longer on the same page with PC, who is not really supposed to have a page (or so I thought) but was simply presenting information that hopefully contained some truth. It also doesn't fly for St. Clair to be making comments (or posting links) behind the doors of his non-public forum, that are leaking into the public domain.

I don't think it would be helpful to post any more parts and pieces, out of context remarks, allusionary or cryptic statements, innuendo or subterfuge, either by the parties involved in the dispute or the interested parties here at Avalon. In other words, post it all or none of it. It's in no one's best interest to make each other or the awakening movement we're involved in, look bad...because by association it takes all of us down a level.

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Old 04-17-2009, 03:42 PM   #3
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Default Re: Camelot responds to St Clair's blurb

Hi franciejones and everybody else,

Okay here's the thing.

Franciejones is exactly right about what St. Clair said and his intentions of saying it.

I suggested that St. Clair was talking about the US Project Camelot and I was wrong.

I was asked by Bill Ryan today to correct my position.

I'm able to admit when I'm wrong and have contacted franciejones in private to apologize and explain.

You can't be right all the time. This time I wasn't. I'm man enough to recognize and admit to that.

Oh and Sun Toon, I just read your post and I think you said it all.

Best regards,

Steve




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Sorry Steve, I am not way off base. The thread he wrote this in was titled "the Camelot Entertainment" where he was specifically "bashing" Bill Ryan. I did not post this lightly and only did so after asking Bill Ryan if it would be helpul to shed some light. As a moderator, I thought you might be aware of this situation. I did do the neccessary research. I posted so that those who were curious and not a member of the St Clair site would have a clue as to what may be happening.

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Old 04-17-2009, 05:18 PM   #4
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"Suggested" is a light way to classify what you had said in the previous post friend Steve. But your correction is appreciated.
I think Lorien made the best post in this thread and I share the same opinion as him.

Personally I don't feel that what is being discussed is negative or energy draining. In fact quite the opposite. We are finding out truth. I noticed many people here view truth as a negative thing. I can understand why, sometimes truth is hard to deal with as it can make us shift our perception about many things. But in the end at least we are not feeding our energy into a lie, which doesn't really exist and is darkness, and hence leaves us open to attacks of all types.

Franciejones deserves some credit, as she was upset with what happened but dug deeper into the matter to uncover truth, and is letting the truth guide her actions rather then desires or other emotions.

As I like to say:
Ignoring things is ignorance.
Ignorance is darkness, knowledge is light.
And It's much easier to get smacked in the darkness.






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Hi franciejones and everybody else,
Franciejones is exactly right about what St. Clair said and his intentions of saying it.
I suggested that St. Clair was talking about the US Project Camelot and I was wrong.
I was asked by Bill Ryan today to correct my position.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:39 PM   #5
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"Suggested" is a light way to classify what you had said in the previous post friend Steve. But your correction is appreciated.
I think Lorien made the best post in this thread and I share the same opinion as him.

Personally I don't feel that what is being discussed is negative or energy draining. In fact quite the opposite. We are finding out truth. I noticed many people here view truth as a negative thing. I can understand why, sometimes truth is hard to deal with as it can make us shift our perception about many things. But in the end at least we are not feeding our energy into a lie, which doesn't really exist and is darkness, and hence leaves us open to attacks of all types.

Franciejones deserves some credit, as she was upset with what happened but dug deeper into the matter to uncover truth, and is letting the truth guide her actions rather then desires or other emotions.

As I like to say:
Ignoring things is ignorance.
Ignorance is darkness, knowledge is light.
And It's much easier to get smacked in the darkness.
Phtha, after reading your post, I don't know where to begin. I am a 9/11 truther. As you can imagine, the truth is important to me. Over the years I have been called just about anything imaginable (e.g. "nuts," "tin hat," "no planer," "fake truther," etc.). Hence I always appreciate someone as franciejones willing to put in the effort and share the information with others. The process and the outcome of truth searching can be frustrating. No matter. At the end of this life (i.e. this round of reincarnation) I expect my life experience and knowledge to be shared (uploaded) with the larger consciousness. Great post.

-feeler

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