Interesting Passage from a David R. Hawkins Book

alyscat · 03-31-2009, 10:26 PM

Egg, Hawkins states that there are levels of consciousness and that everything falls within them. He basically tests "ideas" or "things" or "people" using behavioral kinesiology, which was taught originally by Diamond.

He's defined the levels by name, and we all live at one level or another. So, if we test to
20, we're living at the level of Shame, and we see the bum as dirty, disgusting, and disgraceful.

at 30, we'd be viewing him from a level of Guilt

at 50, we'd be judging him from a level of Hopelessness, etc.

He goes all the way up, and once you get over the level of Love, as I recall, it totally changes the way you perceive life (and in this case, the bum).

I had all the Hawkins books until I got to the one where he was attributing some of the conservative commentators (Bill O'Reilly, comes to mine) really high levels of consciousness. At that point I put his books down and walked away. Some of the earlier books made more sense to me.

He did some interviews on Beyond the Ordinary dot net, and the thing I came away with was that the kinesiology he did was not "true" - in that some portion of the "accurate" answer required a certain amount of knowledge in the mind of the person doing the testing. It's been a couple of years since I listened to this, and it struck me almost immediately, but I don't have the details of the experience in my head anymore.

alys

03-31-2009, 10:26 PM	#11
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: Interesting Passage from a David R. Hawkins Book Egg, Hawkins states that there are levels of consciousness and that everything falls within them. He basically tests "ideas" or "things" or "people" using behavioral kinesiology, which was taught originally by Diamond. He's defined the levels by name, and we all live at one level or another. So, if we test to 20, we're living at the level of Shame, and we see the bum as dirty, disgusting, and disgraceful. at 30, we'd be viewing him from a level of Guilt at 50, we'd be judging him from a level of Hopelessness, etc. He goes all the way up, and once you get over the level of Love, as I recall, it totally changes the way you perceive life (and in this case, the bum). I had all the Hawkins books until I got to the one where he was attributing some of the conservative commentators (Bill O'Reilly, comes to mine) really high levels of consciousness. At that point I put his books down and walked away. Some of the earlier books made more sense to me. He did some interviews on Beyond the Ordinary dot net, and the thing I came away with was that the kinesiology he did was not "true" - in that some portion of the "accurate" answer required a certain amount of knowledge in the mind of the person doing the testing. It's been a couple of years since I listened to this, and it struck me almost immediately, but I don't have the details of the experience in my head anymore. alys