BIZARRE EVENTS - all within a week

[Delphi]

small nit picking detail - the subs collided nearer the start of Feb but only got reported when the British one got back to base.

but does anyone know when the (HAARP created?) cross was actually seen in the Russian sky? if it was this last week or so, then it can be added to the list of weird goings on too.

love to all

[NorthernSanctuary]

As far as satellites colliding, it should not happen. I was involved with cellular standards work a dozens years ago, and once when we had a mtg in Colorado Springs, the whole group was given a guest tour of the NORAD facilities in Cheyenne mountain. They track all objects (natural or man-made) orbiting the earth. All object trajectories are tracked and calculated with a perimeter boundary surrounding the object. If at any point the 2 object perimeters intersect in the projected path, it sets off an alarm, and the personnel is aware of it before it happens. So for 2 satellites to collide accidentally when they can be maneuvered is impossible.

By the way, if you want to be earthquake proof and money is no object, do what NORAD does. When I entered the door in the middle of that tunnel (basically built like a massive safe door, 2 engineers responsible for maintaining it in 12 hour shifts) there was an office building resting on massive springs all over the bottom. Even if the whole world was blowing itself up, you wouldn't feel any shake.

[Brinty]

Originally Posted by NorthernSantuary

So for 2 satellites to collide accidentally when they can be maneuvered is impossible.

The word to take notice of here is accidentally.

Is the avoidance of collision something that is triggered automatically, or does someone have to take action - like pushing a button?

If someone fell asleep on the job or was 'away with the fairies', what would happen?

If NORAD has this ability, what about the equivalent Russian department?

Two people falling asleep? Unlikely.

[Brinty]

Light bulb moment!

What if both parties took evasive action that canceled out each other's action?

[recallone]

Originally Posted by Brinty

On the subject of odd events - is it only here in Australia, or is it happening elsewhere in the world, that aircraft of all types are falling out of the sky at an alarming rate of late???

Good point! Yes, here in the states too.

Originally Posted by Delphi

small nit picking detail - the subs collided nearer the start of Feb but only got reported when the British one got back to base.

but does anyone know when the (HAARP created?) cross was actually seen in the Russian sky? if it was this last week or so, then it can be added to the list of weird goings on too.

love to all

Is this the one?

And thanks, Egg.

I'm curious as to whether these events are merely demonstrations - like a parent threatening to take away a child's toy if he didn't behave - or if these are just byproducts of a conflict that's intensifying. Because you have to admit, the manner in which these things are being explained and summarily removed from the public's' attention is a curious thing. Are we seeing the fallout of a great battle while the PTB scurries to explain it away? I'm kind of leaning in that direction right now.

[Dantheman62]

Earth is ensnared today in a thick spider web of orbits. Satellites with different assignments fly at different altitudes:

U.S. space shuttles are manned satellites of Earth. They usually fly at altitudes around 200 miles above Earth. Rarely, they fly near 400 miles altitude. Russia's orbiting space station Mir is another manned satellite. It maintains its own orbit just above 200 miles altitude.

Russian and American navigation satellites guide ships at sea from 100 to 300 miles altitude.

Photography Photo-intelligence (PHOTOINT) satellites shoot clear pictures and infrared images of installations on the ground from the same altitude range. Radar images of targets on Earth's oceans are recorded at these altitudes.

Civilian photography satellites, such as the American Landsat and the French Spot, orbit at altitudes ranging from 300 to 600 miles. American NOAA and Russian Meteor weather satellites are at these same altitudes.

Spysats and military communications satellites dominate space from 600 to 1,200 miles altitude. The spysats gather electronic intelligence (ELINT), signal intelligence (SIGINT) and radar intelligence (RADINT). Hamsats also operate there.

Science Science research satellites do much of their work at altitudes between 3,000 and 6,000 miles above Earth. Their findings are radioed to Earth as telemetry data.

From 6,000 to 12,000 miles altitude, navigation satellites operate. Best known are the U.S. global-positioning system (GPS) and Russia's equivalent GLONASS satellites.

Altitude in Miles Satellite Types
100-300 shuttles, space stations, spysats, navsats, hamsats
300-600 weather sats, photo sats
600-1,200 spysats, military comsats, hamsats
3,000-6,000 science sats
6,000-12,000 navsats
22,300 (stationary) communications, broadcast, weather
250-50,000 (elliptical) early-warning, Molniya broadcast, communications, spysats, hamsats

The 1,234-pound (560-kg) Iridium 33 satellite involved in the collision was launched in 1997; the 1,984-pound (900-kg) Russian satellite was launched in 1993 and presumed non-operational. It did not have a maneuvering system, NASA said.


Iridium's spacecraft circle the Earth along a near-polar orbit once every 100 minutes and fly at a speed of about 16,832 mph (27,088 kph), the company states on its Web site.


Johnson said outdated spacecraft, rocket stages and other components break apart in space every year, but there have only been three relatively minor collisions between such objects in the last 20 years. Never before have two intact satellites crashed into one another by accident, he added.

Shortly after, our space surveillance center reported that they had observed multiple new objects in low orbit," Drey said. The U.S. Space Surveillance Network continuously tracks more than 18,000 separate man-made objects and debris at any given time, he added.

[One One Seven]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Earth is ensnared today in a thick spider web of orbits. Satellites with different assignments fly at different altitudes:

U.S. space shuttles are manned satellites of Earth. They usually fly at altitudes around 200 miles above Earth. Rarely, they fly near 400 miles altitude. Russia's orbiting space station Mir is another manned satellite. It maintains its own orbit just above 200 miles altitude.

Russian and American navigation satellites guide ships at sea from 100 to 300 miles altitude.

Photography Photo-intelligence (PHOTOINT) satellites shoot clear pictures and infrared images of installations on the ground from the same altitude range. Radar images of targets on Earth's oceans are recorded at these altitudes.

Civilian photography satellites, such as the American Landsat and the French Spot, orbit at altitudes ranging from 300 to 600 miles. American NOAA and Russian Meteor weather satellites are at these same altitudes.

Spysats and military communications satellites dominate space from 600 to 1,200 miles altitude. The spysats gather electronic intelligence (ELINT), signal intelligence (SIGINT) and radar intelligence (RADINT). Hamsats also operate there.

Science Science research satellites do much of their work at altitudes between 3,000 and 6,000 miles above Earth. Their findings are radioed to Earth as telemetry data.

From 6,000 to 12,000 miles altitude, navigation satellites operate. Best known are the U.S. global-positioning system (GPS) and Russia's equivalent GLONASS satellites.

Altitude in Miles Satellite Types
100-300 shuttles, space stations, spysats, navsats, hamsats
300-600 weather sats, photo sats
600-1,200 spysats, military comsats, hamsats
3,000-6,000 science sats
6,000-12,000 navsats
22,300 (stationary) communications, broadcast, weather
250-50,000 (elliptical) early-warning, Molniya broadcast, communications, spysats, hamsats

The 1,234-pound (560-kg) Iridium 33 satellite involved in the collision was launched in 1997; the 1,984-pound (900-kg) Russian satellite was launched in 1993 and presumed non-operational. It did not have a maneuvering system, NASA said.


Iridium's spacecraft circle the Earth along a near-polar orbit once every 100 minutes and fly at a speed of about 16,832 mph (27,088 kph), the company states on its Web site.


Johnson said outdated spacecraft, rocket stages and other components break apart in space every year, but there have only been three relatively minor collisions between such objects in the last 20 years. Never before have two intact satellites crashed into one another by accident, he added.

Shortly after, our space surveillance center reported that they had observed multiple new objects in low orbit," Drey said. The U.S. Space Surveillance Network continuously tracks more than 18,000 separate man-made objects and debris at any given time, he added.

Great 2012th post.

[NorthernSanctuary]

What if both parties took evasive action that canceled out each other's action?

I can't speak for the Russians, but in the event of any problems that are recognized, NORAD must have instant communication access to the Russians. You have to keep in mind that one of their main task is to recognize nuclear missile launch, and to raise the alert. No one is going to fall asleep (the room I was in had many screens and a number of people manning it). Besides, those operations contain multiple backup personnel at all times. Also they have to check/calculate the new trajectory (to make sure the new one is safe) before making any change. So the maneuvers need to be co-ordinated and highly computerized. Except for new objects coming into the area, the existing object paths can be calculated quite far ahead. So I still don't see how this can be an accident.

[Orion11]

Seeing the Age of Aquarius is now.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_...ge_of_Aquarius
Astrological meaning of the Age of Aquarius

Ages are believed by some astrologers to affect mankind while other astrologers believe the ages correlate to the rise and fall of mighty civilizations and cultural tendencies.

[4]. Other keywords and ideas believed associated with Aquarius are nonconformity, philanthropy, veracity, perseverance, mankind and irresolution[5]. The appearance or elevation in status of many of these Aquarian developments over the last few centuries is considered by many astrologers to indicate the proximity of the Aquarian age. There is no uniform agreement about the relationship of these recent Aquarian developments and the Age of Aquarius. Some astrologers believe that the influence of a new age is experienced before it arrives because of a cuspal effect or Orb of Influence. Other astrologers believe the appearance of Aquarian developments indicate the actual arrival of the Age of Aquarius.

just something i thought about with all of the planes dropping out of the skies...
lol

and i do not belive in 'coincidences'.

it says aquarius 'rules' flight... etc...
so im thinking that could mean for flight or against it..
whatever is called for...
like pulling planes out of the air maybe?

we are going to see a whole lot more crazy stuff comin up!!

[burgundia]

I think it was Sol Invictus who said to avoid travelling by plane during August/September months.

[dayzero]

"Great 2012th post. " congrats !
_sings_ oohhhh daaaanny booooyy.....


Re' the 'phenomena';
I think it's Ben Fulford and the Japanese Secret Society taking down HAARP / Bluebeam.

Or it's the Chinese just buzzin' everyone.

thanks for links to Ed Grimsley, recallone.....

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by burgundia

I think it was Sol Invictus who said to avoid travelling by plane during August/September months.

That's uncool. I may be travelling. Where is that post?

[Galaxy]

On February 10th two satellites collided. Russian, U.S. satellites collide in space
On February 16th two Submarines collide in Atlantic

On February 15th , some kind of 'fireball' was seen in the Texas skies.

How about this one ?

http://www.inquisitr.com/17510/whoop...-runs-aground/

And this one ?

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...p__2nd_Roundup

we are going to see a whole lot more crazy stuff comin up!!

Agreed, but for the moment that stuff comes down

[NorthernSanctuary]

People in the local area claims that PMRF(The Pacific Missile Range Facility ) have been firing missiles. No statement of test firings. Information given state that they have been readjusting their long range targeting. The missiles are not the weapons, but part of the targeting system for space based weapons. So the space weapons are being re-targeted. To what is the question?

Also Korea apparently did do a launch the other day, but was taken care of. Could the satellite collision be a cover up for this?

[NorthernSanctuary]

The forty-sixth session of the Scientific and Technical Subcommittee of the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space will be held from 9 to 20 February 2009 at the United Nation Office at Vienna, Vienna International Center, Vienna, Austria.

The following technical presentations were made at the 46th session of Scientific and Technical Subcommittee.

Activities on the NEO problem in Russia
Boris Shustov, Russian Federation

NASA Near-Earth Object Observation Program
Lindley Johnson, USA

The Canadian Near Earth Object Satellite Mission: NEOSSat
David Kendall, Canada

Report on the French activities related to Apophis
Jean-Yves Prado, France

Dealing with the threat to earth from asteroids and comets
Ivan Bekey, IAA

Asteroid Threats: A Call for Global Response
Russell L. Schweickart, ASE

Response of the IAF Technical Committee on Near-Earth Objects to the Association of Space Explorers proposal "Asteroid Threats: A Call for Global Response
Alan Harris. IAF/Germany

USA orbital debris environment and operations update
Nick Johnson, USA

2008 Space debris activities in France
Fernand Alby, France

The Space Security Index: Addressing A Concern of International Interest
Ray Williamson, SWF

ESA activities on space debris mitigation
Heiner Klinkrad, ESA

http://www.oosa.unvienna.org/oosa/en...entations.html

[Galaxy]

Forgot to mention that the HAARP site was offline for 3 days last week.

[Machinamentum]

I had the same feeling myself when i herd about the satellites. Ya the ET"S are very against militarizing space. Who knows? We could be on the verge of an intergalactic war. Could the elite be holding humans on earth as hostages?

HMMM..

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Machinamentum

I had the same feeling myself when i herd about the satellites. Ya the ET"S are very against militarizing space. Who knows? We could be on the verge of an intergalactic war. Could the elite be holding humans on earth as hostages?

HMMM..

With all the strange stuff happening, I'm starting to get suspicious. At first, I said that we shouldn't jump to conclusions on these events. However, I think that it's NO coincidence that two subs could collide at once or two satellites could collide at once. Notice that bad things come in 2s? Two plane crashes in the past 2 months, one that had survivors and another where everyone died.

I bet 777 would be fascinated with this. I see a lot of 2s popping up everywhere. Today is 2/22/09. Etc.

[recallone]

Originally Posted by Machinamentum

I had the same feeling myself when i herd about the satellites. Ya the ET"S are very against militarizing space. Who knows? We could be on the verge of an intergalactic war. Could the elite be holding humans on earth as hostages?

HMMM..

This is the reason why I posted the interview with Ed Grimsley on Coast to Coast. It would appear that there is an intergalactic war going on.

The question is - who is involved? With our military outpacing the private sector by some two hundred years or more, I wonder if what's being seen out there are conflicts between humans and other species, or if it is a conflict between other non-human life forms amongst each other...but over what?

Most of you have seen the reports and documentation concerning UFOs rendering nuclear missiles inert, which is a huge nod to their abilities in comparison to ours - but the question still remains...what's happening up there? Who's involved? I don't think it's humans fighting others, personally. And it's not as if we don't already have enough on our plate with whats happening in the global economic scene to worry too much about intergalactic politics... but I'm curious. The earth has been a point of focus for a lot of different races for a while, but maybe something about what's happening and what's about to happen is making this world an even more attractive piece of real estate for other beings.

I intentionally avoid acquiring too much information regarding the various races out there (and here - underground, hybrid, etc) because I don't want to fall into that trap of expecting to be saved by some benevolent race, but I'd like to know what exactly is taking place out there. As I'm writing these words, however - I'm acutely aware of my desire to know instead of just properly connecting TO know.
Wow. I think I need an Excedrin.

(I just found out that eyezbback's account has been suspended/deleted. That was the link I initially offered for the Coast to Coast interview with Ed Grimsley.) That topic is being discussed HERE.

[Brinty]

It may be distasteful to some, but it's time we woke up to the fact that we humans are despoiling our planet. Any actions taken by ETs to rectify this situation, isn't to protect humans, it's taken to protect the planet. They will take what action is necessary and if that so happens to be the obliteration of the human race (or that part of it causing the problems), then that's what will eventuate.

Don't kid yourselves - the planet earth is a damn sight more important than humans. Stop and think for a moment - if you're prepared to put your life on the line for your country, don't you honestly believe that the planet is worth dying for?

After all, it was able to survive for millions of years before we appeared on it and began stuffing it up.

[Machinamentum]

Originally Posted by recallone

This is the reason why I posted the interview with Ed Grimsley on Coast to Coast. It would appear that there is an intergalactic war going on.

Me'sa gunna lookie inta tat.

[recallone]

Here's a video with evidence from NASA's files. The narrator is a bit on the cheesy side, but the info is there.

There's another video, too with audio of the shuttle astronauts notifying Houston of a "bogey". It becomes obvious in the conversation that what they're talking about wasn't supposed to be for public broadcast and they get hush about it and then switch channels. I can't find the original video, but here's another that does play that portion of the conversation along with some other testimony.

[Machinamentum]

FuC<

that reminds me..

I didn't think too much of it at the time.

Bout 6-8 months ago, 2 seporate times (week or two apart), I saw with my own eyes what looked like a large fire ball hurling down from space. I thought it must a been a meteor but, damn big fire ball. Both nights i was driving at night and both were seen over CS.

I thought for sure it was Nuke coming down, i swear I could see the fire burning. One (from my perspective) looked as though NORASS was the target.

When I think about UFO's getting shot down, it makes more sense to fit the experience of what I've seen.

The second looked exactly the same and my girlfriend (at the time) was there to see that one.

The way it was falling out of the sky-coming down was not like anything I've seen before, shooting stars move much faster, this was a slow fall.

creepy

[Galaxy]

Today feb. 24 failed satellite launch.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/oco/main/

[jetles]

I will not be shock if they starting Cancelling flights soon