I want to make my stance on alien life very clear

[shanonatime]

okay- this is kind of weird...
re- alien abductions and people abductions...
so how many of us have been abducted by "humans" and "aliens" or are not quite sure...
so- say- raped- molested- abused- assualted- physically or mentally by either or both of these races...
all of my life i've had this problem defending the "creeps" say- what most "normal" people would define the creepy people... but i can't help but somehow defend everyone... even people who are out to get me... even at times abuse me... then we have this discussion... are the "aliens" out to abuse/ "get" us... when say "raping"- i don't like using these terms, but to be blunt to try and be clear or is there so much more...

is there some direct or sort of direct... ha... correlation between people who have a hard time standing up to abusers and people have a relationship with - entities???

i mean... science has all these great little psychological disorders to give us... great. but could it have to do with our strange little inner defense for the greater abuse.... the greater overall abuse of humanity??? that we have to - people like (us) the one's like me who have a hard time saying- don't abuse me... because we know we've been abused all along- somehow???? but can't quite put our fingers on it? and seek to find the answers in these HUMANS on the street everywhere... like- no- you are really goooood inside...

i know this might not make sense- let me work on it.... maybe someone can try and feel this.... ha... it's hard for me to explain....just poppin gin my head here.....

um- btw- spent about 45 min with one outside last nite. it came closer and i felt like it wanted to almost come even closer. i was almost paralyzed and didn't know what to do because this one i think comes around all the time. it was soooo nuts. i was talking to two people on the street trying to get them to look... but see... i live in north philadelphia... so u can imagine... at the time a man actually passed to me a business card for a buddhist meditation that said meditate for world peace and for self happiness... i would have said something about the site or the nexus project but i didn't know that's what the card was for and also was too busy trying to get him to look at the sky... he was like- "oh you are saying that's a ship" "i seen me one of them once"

it's crazy. you can't get people to stop. I did get two. but in my neighborhood if i do get them to stop... they will... well... rape me... but i felt protected just standing there for awhile and taking cell phone pix... that of course don't come out well.

anyhow. cheers. whew. have a great day, guys. thanks for being there.

[Surial]

Not comprehending love, some humans will scatter throughout the cosmos clinging to technology to fill that void. This created the ETs known for abductions. They do not understand our emotions. Their spirits do not have a high vibrational frequency. To them, they feel they are scientists integrating dna. They are more robotic than human. Although they are very intelligent they lack empathy.

In order to ascend there must be a balance and a connection to the creation energy. This will avoid such emptiness. In a way, I feel sorry for those ETs because they are now a dying race that never got to evolve spiritually. Although they did advance very high in the opposite spectrum.

The same thing could happen to us if we do not change our ways of existing in this galaxy. The good news is there will also be another branch of humans that do ascend and this will balance out the equation.

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by shanonatime

okay- this is kind of weird...
re- alien abductions and people abductions...
so how many of us have been abducted by "humans" and "aliens" or are not quite sure...
so- say- raped- molested- abused- assualted- physically or mentally by either or both of these races...
all of my life i've had this problem defending the "creeps" say- what most "normal" people would define the creepy people... but i can't help but somehow defend everyone... even people who are out to get me... even at times abuse me... then we have this discussion... are the "aliens" out to abuse/ "get" us... when say "raping"- i don't like using these terms, but to be blunt to try and be clear or is there so much more...

is there some direct or sort of direct... ha... correlation between people who have a hard time standing up to abusers and people have a relationship with - entities???

i mean... science has all these great little psychological disorders to give us... great. but could it have to do with our strange little inner defense for the greater abuse.... the greater overall abuse of humanity??? that we have to - people like (us) the one's like me who have a hard time saying- don't abuse me... because we know we've been abused all along- somehow???? but can't quite put our fingers on it? and seek to find the answers in these HUMANS on the street everywhere... like- no- you are really goooood inside...

i know this might not make sense- let me work on it.... maybe someone can try and feel this.... ha... it's hard for me to explain....just poppin gin my head here.....

um- btw- spent about 45 min with one outside last nite. it came closer and i felt like it wanted to almost come even closer. i was almost paralyzed and didn't know what to do because this one i think comes around all the time. it was soooo nuts. i was talking to two people on the street trying to get them to look... but see... i live in north philadelphia... so u can imagine... at the time a man actually passed to me a business card for a buddhist meditation that said meditate for world peace and for self happiness... i would have said something about the site or the nexus project but i didn't know that's what the card was for and also was too busy trying to get him to look at the sky... he was like- "oh you are saying that's a ship" "i seen me one of them once"

it's crazy. you can't get people to stop. I did get two. but in my neighborhood if i do get them to stop... they will... well... rape me... but i felt protected just standing there for awhile and taking cell phone pix... that of course don't come out well.

anyhow. cheers. whew. have a great day, guys. thanks for being there.

I've come across this attitude a few times. I think it's a matter of having chosen to be a victim and actually become quite comfortable with it. I'm not sure if it's 'easier' staying there than it is to overcome the status quo, but I myself am familiar with at least being quite comfortable in melancholy.
Please don't consider this offensive, maybe you aren't in a victim mode at all. This is just what it sounds like to me.

If I look at this from my end, I think that victims have usually bought too much into the 'this is for a greater good' concept. The idea of sacrificing oneself for something that is more important, possibly being rewarded afterwards. It's a lot like a Cinderella complex, waiting for the prince/princess or the concept of the pure hero, that only when one is naive and all-giving and sacrificing will the truth unfold.
I think this is a rather compelling trap as it connects one emotionally with any perpetrator, but it's a trap nonetheless, one very similar to sado-masochism in my opinion.
eXchanger has left a quite interesting post on the dynamics behind this on the "Avalon Singles" thread. Rephrased it was a matter of oneself being of such intent and clarity that, in fact, it triggers a freaked out response in other people, because they don't know how to engage with a being so humble, other than to abuse it.

....but just imagine, with all the power behind creating one's own reality through one's intentions and attitude, you of all have probably learned to forgive. If you now overcome the state of victim, your compassion will abound in such an intensity it will be quite unbelievable.

[shanonatime]

Originally Posted by Czymra

I've come across this attitude a few times. I think it's a matter of having chosen to be a victim and actually become quite comfortable with it. I'm not sure if it's 'easier' staying there than it is to overcome the status quo, but I myself am familiar with at least being quite comfortable in melancholy.
Please don't consider this offensive, maybe you aren't in a victim mode at all. This is just what it sounds like to me.

If I look at this from my end, I think that victims have usually bought too much into the 'this is for a greater good' concept. The idea of sacrificing oneself for something that is more important, possibly being rewarded afterwards. It's a lot like a Cinderella complex, waiting for the prince/princess or the concept of the pure hero, that only when one is naive and all-giving and sacrificing will the truth unfold.
I think this is a rather compelling trap as it connects one emotionally with any perpetrator, but it's a trap nonetheless, one very similar to sado-masochism in my opinion.
eXchanger has left a quite interesting post on the dynamics behind this on the "Avalon Singles" thread. Rephrased it was a matter of oneself being of such intent and clarity that, in fact, it triggers a freaked out response in other people, because they don't know how to engage with a being so humble, other than to abuse it.

....but just imagine, with all the power behind creating one's own reality through one's intentions and attitude, you of all have probably learned to forgive. If you now overcome the state of victim, your compassion will abound in such an intensity it will be quite unbelievable.

actually you are very spot on here... don't worry- not offended- sado masochism isn't very far off... ha. seriously... state of victim... overcoming this is quite the task... learning to forgive ones self is the ultimate task? but then ones self includes... them... and i'm off to the land of no free will "forgiveness" again.... ha...

cheers. break the victim cycle. break it. break it... break it!!!! breaking it... breathe... yes. :-)

s

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by shanonatime

actually you are very spot on here... don't worry- not offended- sado masochism isn't very far off... ha. seriously... state of victim... overcoming this is quite the task... learning to forgive ones self is the ultimate task? but then ones self includes... them... and i'm off to the land of no free will "forgiveness" again.... ha...

cheers. break the victim cycle. break it. break it... break it!!!! breaking it... breathe... yes. :-)

s

As I was saying, I'd think that you already know how to forgive, doing it to yourself is just another task. The point is, as you say, breaking the cycle.

I'm trying to remember how I did it but it's rather hard to piece it together. I have the feeling that most of it happened when I learned to build confidence, not on the base of a relation to someone/thing else (aggression or so) but just rest within myself. It should be neither rejection nor attachment... then it just naturally flows away. How you get I really can't tell.
Godspeed