Is there base on the far side of the MOON?

viking · 02-15-2009, 08:51 PM

Found this on my travels... heard the story before but thought I would re surface the story to get some feedback.... Any pictures anyone?

Feb. 15, 2009

Moon Base Photo Said Seen By Top Security AF Vet!

Source: Sightings.com

http://www.sightings.com/ufo/mmonbasevet.htm

November 17, 1997

<Note: The following story was submitted by an Air Force veteran with an above-Top-Secret security clearance. Although we cannot vouch for the ultimate veracity of this story, and the author is writing under a pseudonym because of his national security oath, we feel the individual presents a strong degree of credibility. He states that he has not revealed this event to anyone before.

"Nearly thirty years ago, my Supervising Sergeant called me aside and informed me that there was a technical problem in a highly-classified area elsewhere on the Air Base. At that time, all systems were expanding to support increased military efforts for the Viet Nam War. As a part of that, it was my job to support and maintain highly-classified Intelligence and Reconnaissance-related Electronic Photographic Systems, recently installed in a new Top Secret facility on the Base. Our unit was under the command of the Director of Intelligence at Headquarters SAC, Tactical Air Command, Langley Field, Virginia.

My Supervisor stated that the Lunar Orbiter program had encountered a problem with an Electronic Photographic Contact Printer, identical to equipment that was utilized in the darkrooms of our own Unit. This was the first Lunar Orbiter program, the purpose of which was to bring back the first close-up pictures of the surface of the Moon. These photos would later be utilized to select an appropriate landing site for the first manned landing on the Moon, in 1969. As the only Electronics Repairman on the Base with a Cryptologic Security Clearance, a step above Top Secret, I was being loaned to the project to see if I could resolve the system problem. More than excited at the prospect of helping out and possibly having a chance to view the first close up photos of the surface of the Moon, I was briefed on security, and gathered the appropriate equipment and tools for the task.

Driving across the Base on the perimeter access road that skirted the flat dusty fields and long runways in the distance, I noticed an experimental Helicopter hovering fly-like in the air just above and to the south of the massive arching metal-grey hanger, one of the largest on the base that housed the Lunar Orbiter project.

Upon entering the hanger, I was asked to present my Top Secret Identity Badge, in exchange for their internal higher-level Identity Badge; this was to be worn around the neck on a chain. Another guard escorted me through a series of security doors to an expansive open area within the hanger. Large black fabric curtains hung from a metal grid suspended from the ceiling. These, in effect, cordoned off various working areas within the larger space. Passing through one of the draped areas, I entered a large open space where people in small groups stood talking quietly, with a sense of seriousness and concern. I was immediately struck by the number of people who were present, who appeared to be civilians, and also some scientists from other countries. With a bit of instant shock and judgement, I thought to my self, why are they here? I had a very strange feeling - a feeling that something is off here, something is not quite right.

I was introduced to a man dressed in civilian clothes and a lab coat, the head of the project, a Dr. Collie, I believe. In a very gracious and reserved manner, bringing to mind an image of Sherlock Holmes, he softly conveyed to me that the equipment in question was holding up the processing of the first close-up photographs of the surface of the Moon and also delaying the release of photos to be provided for study and release to the world, and how grateful the program staff would be if there was anything that I could do.

An Airman escorted me into a darkroom. Inside, another young Airman assembled strips of high resolution 35mm film into what is called a mosaic. He was placing side-by-side successively numbered photographic scans of the lunar surface, which had been transmitted back to earth from the Lunar Orbiter. Each surface scan covered a narrow band of terrain, and successive orbits around the Moon were required to assemble a complete photographic image of the Lunar terrain.

The mosaic negative created by that process was then placed into a Resolution Enhancing Contact Printer. Photographic paper was placed on top of the negative, and an exposure begun. The negative was scanned by an electron light beam generated by a large Cathode Ray Tube, similar to the tube in a black and white Televison set. The light beam was picked up by a photo-multiplier tube and, through a feedback loop, modulated by the various changes in density of the photographic negative, enhancing the contrast, brightness and resolution of the image in the process. The resulting 9.5 inch by 18 inch high resolution contact print was then examined by a photographic interpreter or scientist, who viewed the images under a microscopic type viewer, analyzing the features and terrain of the Lunar landscape.

Left alone in the faint red light of the darkroom with the Airman and equipment, much of which I had never seen before, I began to question the technician, attempting to discern what the problem might be with the ailing contact printer. After a few minutes of investigation, it was clear that there was a problem with the electronic control circuitry, which was comprised of several small plug-in circuit modules. Having no spare parts on hand, it was clear that I would have to trouble-shoot each module on a component-by-component basis, a very tedious and time consuming process at best. This was something that could not be done in the faint red light of a darkroom. The unit would have to be removed from the darkroom and taken into a more appropriate space to allow for the accomplishment of the task.

Talking with the Airman on the other side of the room, questions floated into my head. I was curious and fascinated with the whole process. How were the signals from the Lunar Orbiter transmitted to the lab? How where they converted into images on photographic film? How were the images correlated and aligned into the final mosaic negative. I knew these were all questions that I should not ask, and yet, at the same time, I was alone with an Airman who was as obviously as enthusiastic as I was about his job.

Under normal operating conditions, many other people would have been in the lab, part of the assembly line of production. But, here we were all alone, so I began to ask all those questions. After about thirty minutes of technical discussion and a complete rundown on all the steps in the process, the Airman turned to me and said candidly, "You know they've discovered a base on the back side of the Moon!". I said, "What do you mean?", and again he said, "They have discovered a base on the Moon!" and, surrepticiously, at the same time dropped a photograph in front of me. There it was, a mosaic print of the surface of the Moon, with some sort of geometric structures clearly visible. Scrutinizing the image, I could see spheres and towers. My first thought was, "Whose base is it?" Then I realized the full implication: it was not anyone of this earth.

I did not dwell on the photograph - I quickly took it in visually and moved away in case someone else should enter the lab. I knew that I had been given a gift, information that I should not have seen. With my *position* being that of a dutiful Airman, I asked no further questions and went about my business, quietly thinking to myself that I couldn't wait to hear about this on the News in the next few days! I told myself, do whatever you can to get this thing fixed...so the world can see this and hear about it!

Two days of labors paid off - a tiny diode on one of the circuit cards had shorted. Replacing the defective component, I was as surprised as anyone that I had found the problem. Dr. Collie was more than pleased and offered several of the first photographs of the Lunar surface to me in appreciation of my efforts. As he autographed some of the prints for me, I longed to ask more questions about the Moon Base, but knew that that was forbidden, and that I would have to wait for the evening News for the answers, along with the rest of the world.

Now, here it is more than thirty years later, and I am still waiting to hear the report on the Evening News of what was found on the back side of the Moon.

I feel that it is my moral obligation to take the risk *of coming* forward with this information at this time, especially after a recent request by Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, who has asked that those who have information which could help shed light on the ongoing cover-up of an Extraterrestrial Presence by the Military and Government come forward with that information."

If you have information and want to help, please contact CSETI, The Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, the only worldwide organization dedicated to establishing peaceful and sustainable relations with extraterrestrial life forms. CSETI was.>

viking

Brinty · 02-15-2009, 09:12 PM

If you wish to see photos, get hold of the book Dark Mission - The Secret History of NASA by Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara.

You can then decide for yourself whether the claim is true or not.

Mind you, these two are talking about a supposed ancient alien base. The suggestion has been made that there is a secret US base on the moon. Dan Burisch claims he knows where "The Ark" (as he calls it) containing the genetic material to re-start human civilization, is concealed.

Orion11 · 02-15-2009, 09:34 PM

lol,
yeah..

there are many bases on the moon...
far side and nearside both.
also, both human and not .

Steve_A · 02-15-2009, 10:11 PM

Hi viking,

The text you provided was quoted in a book called, "The Lost Journals" apparently sent to an investigative reporter called Allan Carmak when he was making his TV show A Strange World (I looked on Google for this program and drew a blank to both the program itself and the date of the 'contact' between the top secret air force personnel and the reporter).

Also this story was related in an E-Book called, "Home of the Angels & NASAS' Tether Experiment"

Also without mentioning the reporter was included in Dr. Steven Greers' site and also the Veritas site once again not mentioning the reporter.

As for the photos of lunar bases, according to John Lear recently, thay can't be man made, because man never went to the moon, but others believe that during the 1970s a base was built as part of a 'black op'.

I find it interesting that NASA will send a rocket to blow up part of the moon 'in search of water' later on this year, in July I think. Of course logic would suggest that that test would have been carried out when Neil Armstrong was sticking the US flag on there.

Could it be that NASA is trying to get rid of something they don't want us to see?

As for photos per se I don't have, but you can watch the following video which will keep you very interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgCd0YSak04

Best regards,

Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by viking

Found this on my travels... heard the story before but thought I would re surface the story to get some feedback.... Any pictures anyone?

Feb. 15, 2009

Moon Base Photo Said Seen By Top Security AF Vet!

Source: Sightings.com

http://www.sightings.com/ufo/mmonbasevet.htm

November 17, 1997

<Note: The following story was submitted by an Air Force veteran with an above-Top-Secret security clearance. Although we cannot vouch for the ultimate veracity of this story, and the author is writing under a pseudonym because of his national security oath, we feel the individual presents a strong degree of credibility. He states that he has not revealed this event to anyone before.

Humble Janitor · 02-17-2009, 09:15 AM

NASA can run but they cannot hide any longer!

The truth will come out whether they like it or not!

Avid · 02-17-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi viking,

The text you provided was quoted in a book called, "The Lost Journals" apparently sent to an investigative reporter called Allan Carmak when he was making his TV show A Strange World (I looked on Google for this program and drew a blank to both the program itself and the date of the 'contact' between the top secret air force personnel and the reporter).

Also this story was related in an E-Book called, "Home of the Angels & NASAS' Tether Experiment"

Also without mentioning the reporter was included in Dr. Steven Greers' site and also the Veritas site once again not mentioning the reporter.

As for the photos of lunar bases, according to John Lear recently, thay can't be man made, because man never went to the moon, but others believe that during the 1970s a base was built as part of a 'black op'.

I find it interesting that NASA will send a rocket to blow up part of the moon 'in search of water' later on this year, in July I think. Of course logic would suggest that that test would have been carried out when Neil Armstrong was sticking the US flag on there.

Could it be that NASA is trying to get rid of something they don't want us to see?

As for photos per se I don't have, but you can watch the following video which will keep you very interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgCd0YSak04

Best regards,

Steve

Video has been removed!!!!

orthodoxymoron · 02-17-2009, 01:44 PM

Will they hit the moon with a bunker-busting nuke? Will they take out a renegade base? I'm good, as long as they don't take out Lunar Base II.

Steve_A · 02-17-2009, 02:01 PM

Hi Avid,

The following link is the same video from a different user.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmIRU72b9_k

Best regards,

Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avid

Video has been removed!!!!

Orion11 · 02-17-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Will they hit the moon with a bunker-busting nuke? Will they take out a renegade base? I'm good, as long as they don't take out Lunar Base II.

does anyone ever wonder if/ how many people are actually visiting the internet from places like the Moon? lol

i do sometimes...

I wonder how many / if any.. people are actually living someplace like the Moon, or under the Earth.. and visiting these forums?

any, ya think? lol

Dantheman62 · 02-17-2009, 05:15 PM

bwaHaHa yeah and they're laughing at us!

Orion11 · 02-17-2009, 06:07 PM

thats it.....

get yer stuff packed Dan......

Im putting the finishing touches on the spacecruiser... ( incense burner, tube shelf, MP3 player, frabulators, etc)

so get yer stuff together.....and we are OUT!!!... man! lol

we will show them Lunar livers... lol

Dantheman62 · 02-17-2009, 06:48 PM

um, what's a frabulator?, is that like a thingamabob?

Orion11 · 02-17-2009, 06:55 PM

yeah kinda like a thingamabob...

only the flagellems are a bit different.

Paramartasaya · 02-17-2009, 08:04 PM

Here a video of Alex Collier showing allien bases on the far side of the moon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfXvH...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7809X...eature=related

KathyT · 02-19-2009, 03:22 AM

I've been doing research on the George Adamski story (see separate thread), but he talks about his trips in spacecraft to the Moon. I have his book "Inside the Space Ships" published in 1955, a decade before Apollo trips around the moon.

In his book, George Adamski says he was taken in space multiple times by visitors from space. On one visit in April of 1953, he saw the moon up close from an earth-side view. The Saturnian pilot told him “The Moon has air, as you can see by our instruments, now that we are close enough to register it. …The side of the Moon that you see from Earth has not much chance to show you its actual clouds, which are rarely heavy. While just beyond the rim of the Moon, over that section which might be called a temperate zone, you will notice by our instruments that there are heavier clouds forming, moving and disappearing, very much as they do above the Earth.” “There is a beautiful strip or section around the center of the Moon in which vegetation, trees and animals thrive, and in which people live in comfort. Even you of Earth could live on that part of the Moon, for the human body is the most adaptable machine in the Universe.”

In August of 1954 George says he was taken and shown the back side of the moon. His space friend told him “Now we are approaching the side never seen from Earth. Look at the surface directly below us. See, there are mountains in this section. You can even see snow on the peaks of the higher ones, and a growth of heavy timber on the lower slopes. On this side of the Moon are a number of mountain lakes and rivers. You can see one of the lakes below. The rivers empty into a very large body of water.”

When I asked John Lear on last Friday evening on the Veritas chat about the Nazi UFO story, he said “No, Geeorge Adamski met real ET's.” And I think John said in his interview he believes there is atmosphere on the Moon.

02-15-2009, 08:51 PM	#1
viking Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,709	Is there base on the far side of the MOON? Found this on my travels... heard the story before but thought I would re surface the story to get some feedback.... Any pictures anyone? Feb. 15, 2009 Moon Base Photo Said Seen By Top Security AF Vet! Source: Sightings.com http://www.sightings.com/ufo/mmonbasevet.htm November 17, 1997 <Note: The following story was submitted by an Air Force veteran with an above-Top-Secret security clearance. Although we cannot vouch for the ultimate veracity of this story, and the author is writing under a pseudonym because of his national security oath, we feel the individual presents a strong degree of credibility. He states that he has not revealed this event to anyone before. "Nearly thirty years ago, my Supervising Sergeant called me aside and informed me that there was a technical problem in a highly-classified area elsewhere on the Air Base. At that time, all systems were expanding to support increased military efforts for the Viet Nam War. As a part of that, it was my job to support and maintain highly-classified Intelligence and Reconnaissance-related Electronic Photographic Systems, recently installed in a new Top Secret facility on the Base. Our unit was under the command of the Director of Intelligence at Headquarters SAC, Tactical Air Command, Langley Field, Virginia. My Supervisor stated that the Lunar Orbiter program had encountered a problem with an Electronic Photographic Contact Printer, identical to equipment that was utilized in the darkrooms of our own Unit. This was the first Lunar Orbiter program, the purpose of which was to bring back the first close-up pictures of the surface of the Moon. These photos would later be utilized to select an appropriate landing site for the first manned landing on the Moon, in 1969. As the only Electronics Repairman on the Base with a Cryptologic Security Clearance, a step above Top Secret, I was being loaned to the project to see if I could resolve the system problem. More than excited at the prospect of helping out and possibly having a chance to view the first close up photos of the surface of the Moon, I was briefed on security, and gathered the appropriate equipment and tools for the task. Driving across the Base on the perimeter access road that skirted the flat dusty fields and long runways in the distance, I noticed an experimental Helicopter hovering fly-like in the air just above and to the south of the massive arching metal-grey hanger, one of the largest on the base that housed the Lunar Orbiter project. Upon entering the hanger, I was asked to present my Top Secret Identity Badge, in exchange for their internal higher-level Identity Badge; this was to be worn around the neck on a chain. Another guard escorted me through a series of security doors to an expansive open area within the hanger. Large black fabric curtains hung from a metal grid suspended from the ceiling. These, in effect, cordoned off various working areas within the larger space. Passing through one of the draped areas, I entered a large open space where people in small groups stood talking quietly, with a sense of seriousness and concern. I was immediately struck by the number of people who were present, who appeared to be civilians, and also some scientists from other countries. With a bit of instant shock and judgement, I thought to my self, why are they here? I had a very strange feeling - a feeling that something is off here, something is not quite right. I was introduced to a man dressed in civilian clothes and a lab coat, the head of the project, a Dr. Collie, I believe. In a very gracious and reserved manner, bringing to mind an image of Sherlock Holmes, he softly conveyed to me that the equipment in question was holding up the processing of the first close-up photographs of the surface of the Moon and also delaying the release of photos to be provided for study and release to the world, and how grateful the program staff would be if there was anything that I could do. An Airman escorted me into a darkroom. Inside, another young Airman assembled strips of high resolution 35mm film into what is called a mosaic. He was placing side-by-side successively numbered photographic scans of the lunar surface, which had been transmitted back to earth from the Lunar Orbiter. Each surface scan covered a narrow band of terrain, and successive orbits around the Moon were required to assemble a complete photographic image of the Lunar terrain. The mosaic negative created by that process was then placed into a Resolution Enhancing Contact Printer. Photographic paper was placed on top of the negative, and an exposure begun. The negative was scanned by an electron light beam generated by a large Cathode Ray Tube, similar to the tube in a black and white Televison set. The light beam was picked up by a photo-multiplier tube and, through a feedback loop, modulated by the various changes in density of the photographic negative, enhancing the contrast, brightness and resolution of the image in the process. The resulting 9.5 inch by 18 inch high resolution contact print was then examined by a photographic interpreter or scientist, who viewed the images under a microscopic type viewer, analyzing the features and terrain of the Lunar landscape. Left alone in the faint red light of the darkroom with the Airman and equipment, much of which I had never seen before, I began to question the technician, attempting to discern what the problem might be with the ailing contact printer. After a few minutes of investigation, it was clear that there was a problem with the electronic control circuitry, which was comprised of several small plug-in circuit modules. Having no spare parts on hand, it was clear that I would have to trouble-shoot each module on a component-by-component basis, a very tedious and time consuming process at best. This was something that could not be done in the faint red light of a darkroom. The unit would have to be removed from the darkroom and taken into a more appropriate space to allow for the accomplishment of the task. Talking with the Airman on the other side of the room, questions floated into my head. I was curious and fascinated with the whole process. How were the signals from the Lunar Orbiter transmitted to the lab? How where they converted into images on photographic film? How were the images correlated and aligned into the final mosaic negative. I knew these were all questions that I should not ask, and yet, at the same time, I was alone with an Airman who was as obviously as enthusiastic as I was about his job. Under normal operating conditions, many other people would have been in the lab, part of the assembly line of production. But, here we were all alone, so I began to ask all those questions. After about thirty minutes of technical discussion and a complete rundown on all the steps in the process, the Airman turned to me and said candidly, "You know they've discovered a base on the back side of the Moon!". I said, "What do you mean?", and again he said, "They have discovered a base on the Moon!" and, surrepticiously, at the same time dropped a photograph in front of me. There it was, a mosaic print of the surface of the Moon, with some sort of geometric structures clearly visible. Scrutinizing the image, I could see spheres and towers. My first thought was, "Whose base is it?" Then I realized the full implication: it was not anyone of this earth. I did not dwell on the photograph - I quickly took it in visually and moved away in case someone else should enter the lab. I knew that I had been given a gift, information that I should not have seen. With my position being that of a dutiful Airman, I asked no further questions and went about my business, quietly thinking to myself that I couldn't wait to hear about this on the News in the next few days! I told myself, do whatever you can to get this thing fixed...so the world can see this and hear about it! Two days of labors paid off - a tiny diode on one of the circuit cards had shorted. Replacing the defective component, I was as surprised as anyone that I had found the problem. Dr. Collie was more than pleased and offered several of the first photographs of the Lunar surface to me in appreciation of my efforts. As he autographed some of the prints for me, I longed to ask more questions about the Moon Base, but knew that that was forbidden, and that I would have to wait for the evening News for the answers, along with the rest of the world. Now, here it is more than thirty years later, and I am still waiting to hear the report on the Evening News of what was found on the back side of the Moon. I feel that it is my moral obligation to take the risk of coming forward with this information at this time, especially after a recent request by Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, who has asked that those who have information which could help shed light on the ongoing cover-up of an Extraterrestrial Presence by the Military and Government come forward with that information." If you have information and want to help, please contact CSETI, The Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, the only worldwide organization dedicated to establishing peaceful and sustainable relations with extraterrestrial life forms. CSETI was.> viking

02-15-2009, 09:12 PM	#2
Brinty Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Blackbutt, Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,004	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? If you wish to see photos, get hold of the book Dark Mission - The Secret History of NASA by Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara. You can then decide for yourself whether the claim is true or not. Mind you, these two are talking about a supposed ancient alien base. The suggestion has been made that there is a secret US base on the moon. Dan Burisch claims he knows where "The Ark" (as he calls it) containing the genetic material to re-start human civilization, is concealed.

02-15-2009, 09:34 PM	#3
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? lol, yeah.. there are many bases on the moon... far side and nearside both. also, both human and not .

02-17-2009, 09:15 AM	#5
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? NASA can run but they cannot hide any longer! The truth will come out whether they like it or not!

02-17-2009, 01:44 PM	#7
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? Will they hit the moon with a bunker-busting nuke? Will they take out a renegade base? I'm good, as long as they don't take out Lunar Base II. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 02-17-2009 at 01:52 PM.

02-17-2009, 05:15 PM	#10
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? bwaHaHa yeah and they're laughing at us!

02-17-2009, 06:07 PM	#11
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? thats it..... get yer stuff packed Dan...... Im putting the finishing touches on the spacecruiser... ( incense burner, tube shelf, MP3 player, frabulators, etc) so get yer stuff together.....and we are OUT!!!... man! lol we will show them Lunar livers... lol

02-17-2009, 06:48 PM	#12
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? um, what's a frabulator?, is that like a thingamabob?

02-17-2009, 06:55 PM	#13
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? yeah kinda like a thingamabob... only the flagellems are a bit different.

02-17-2009, 08:04 PM	#14
Paramartasaya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: EUROPE Posts: 188	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? Here a video of Alex Collier showing allien bases on the far side of the moon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfXvH...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7809X...eature=related

02-19-2009, 03:22 AM	#15
KathyT Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: America Posts: 427	Re: Is there base on the far side of the MOON? I've been doing research on the George Adamski story (see separate thread), but he talks about his trips in spacecraft to the Moon. I have his book "Inside the Space Ships" published in 1955, a decade before Apollo trips around the moon. In his book, George Adamski says he was taken in space multiple times by visitors from space. On one visit in April of 1953, he saw the moon up close from an earth-side view. The Saturnian pilot told him “The Moon has air, as you can see by our instruments, now that we are close enough to register it. …The side of the Moon that you see from Earth has not much chance to show you its actual clouds, which are rarely heavy. While just beyond the rim of the Moon, over that section which might be called a temperate zone, you will notice by our instruments that there are heavier clouds forming, moving and disappearing, very much as they do above the Earth.” “There is a beautiful strip or section around the center of the Moon in which vegetation, trees and animals thrive, and in which people live in comfort. Even you of Earth could live on that part of the Moon, for the human body is the most adaptable machine in the Universe.” In August of 1954 George says he was taken and shown the back side of the moon. His space friend told him “Now we are approaching the side never seen from Earth. Look at the surface directly below us. See, there are mountains in this section. You can even see snow on the peaks of the higher ones, and a growth of heavy timber on the lower slopes. On this side of the Moon are a number of mountain lakes and rivers. You can see one of the lakes below. The rivers empty into a very large body of water.” When I asked John Lear on last Friday evening on the Veritas chat about the Nazi UFO story, he said “No, Geeorge Adamski met real ET's.” And I think John said in his interview he believes there is atmosphere on the Moon.