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Old 02-16-2009, 03:54 PM   #1
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Jonathon: Can you please provide a link to that David Wilcock's blog?

What we are facing as a possibility would eventually affect all of us. Hyperinflation means you lose value on your money (skyrocketing prices). Even though I don't have too much money I don't like the thought of losing 70% of their value or even more.

A break in the distribution chain is a very serious matter, especially if you live in a well developed western major city (It is estimated that in the USA the food would dry up in 3 days if the chain of distribution was halted)... so you can make your calculations as to just how serious this is and make some basic necessary preparations.

Personally I recommend to everyone to daily or at least weekly follow on the situation on the markets. I am sure the signs will be clear if it came to a situation where the collapse was immininent (I estimate 2-3 days before the collapse it would be heavily rumored on sites and forums like these)
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:57 PM   #2
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Jonathon: Can you please provide a link to that David Wilcock's blog?

What we are facing as a possibility would eventually affect all of us. Hyperinflation means you lose value on your money (skyrocketing prices). Even though I don't have too much money I don't like the thought of losing 70% of their value or even more.

A break in the distribution chain is a very serious matter, especially if you live in a well developed western major city (It is estimated that in the USA the food would dry up in 3 days if the chain of distribution was halted)... so you can make your calculations as to just how serious this is and make some basic necessary preparations.

Personally I recommend to everyone to daily or at least weekly follow on the situation on the markets. I am sure the signs will be clear if it came to a situation where the collapse was immininent (I estimate 2-3 days before the collapse it would be heavily rumored on sites and forums like these)
That link is here: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?op...=428&Itemid=70
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:54 PM   #3
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The only way this is going to be a downward spiral is if we wish for a downward spiral.

Stop thinking negatively. We can change this reality. It is not infinite.
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:04 PM   #4
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But I think the crash is a possitive thing???
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:43 PM   #5
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But I think the crash is a possitive thing???
I've always thought I was a bit odd in thinking that, but I assume a dismantling of this system through economic collapse and social uprising would in the end be a positive event, a sort of phoenix rising from the ashes sort of deal...
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:56 PM   #6
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I've always thought I was a bit odd in thinking that, but I assume a dismantling of this system through economic collapse and social uprising would in the end be a positive event, a sort of phoenix rising from the ashes sort of deal...
It's an opportunity. What rises from it is another thing. If they can play the game well enough they'll cash all in that think too much this way.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:00 PM   #7
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It is a positive thing. I can still feel the enormicity of the day when Lehman Brothers fell. Somehow I felt a huge milestone had been reached and I felt this release of a big positive energy as it went down.

Through all the fear and anxiety, we must see through the illusion and realize the status quo is a prison designed to suck everyone dry to their bone.. a new one can emerge but the old one must fall first. It is a risky game as it could easily turn into an even tighter control... but then again.. all epic stories remain tense until the very end (and a happy end I hope at that)
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:46 PM   #8
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You are on the ball as usual "Swanny"
Could be the best thing to happen in recent times..As long as one is prepared and can see the decaying of the outer sheathing before the sprout, as a possitive thing. All will be well..
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:58 PM   #9
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Many warnings have been issued about this subject from Project Camelot's main website. I choose to embrace George Carlin's Philosophy(was one of my favorite beings)...
"Let it happen.... Bring it on......
I will still believe in love and family regardless of this experience...."
It may seem like many of us are ducking reality when in fact we may be changing it..
I can only hope so...........
Unconditional Love is sent to you...
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:07 PM   #10
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But I think the crash is a possitive thing???
i'm inclined to agree. the system is rotten and apt to collapse at any time.
if that statement were describing an old building on my farm, i would bring it down before it fell on me or mine.
i don't profess to know any answers, but i think that it MUST fall, in order for any change from the status quo to occur.
i'll offer magick for the benefit of my urban brothers and sisters. the collapse will devastate them the most.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:11 PM   #11
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I think the question is how one can use the opportunity to prevent a new system from being all about bureaucracy and finicky laws.
I'm sure most 'normal' people would appreciate a truly inter-personal system, not all that paper and buttons s**t.

Not that I have a system in my head that does that fool-proof, but I think small self-ruling communities, where people actually know each other, sounds good.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:15 PM   #12
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You know crash and burn is all fine, but I just keep thinking of all the 70 and 80 year olds, people that are retired and have either pensions, or their money tied up in the stock market. What are they going to do when it all comes down?
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:17 PM   #13
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You know crash and burn is all fine, but I just keep thinking of all the 70 and 80 year olds, people that are retired and have either pensions, or their money tied up in the stock market. What are they going to do when it all comes down?
Good point. I think the question is what we'll do with them because they won't be able to live without us supporting them then. The games of putting your ol'one into the home won't work anymore
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You know crash and burn is all fine, but I just keep thinking of all the 70 and 80 year olds, people that are retired and have either pensions, or their money tied up in the stock market. What are they going to do when it all comes down?
I'm not sure about those without any relatives but I do know that my family will be there for my grandmother as she will be 91 in March and we all try to pitch in (though I've slacked off there..yikes) to make her living as comfortable as possible.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:25 PM   #15
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I was just bringing up that point after reading all these stock market and dollar crash and burn threads over the last few months. Everybody was like yeah! bring it on that's what we need, and the whole time I'm thinking wait, what about all the old people?
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:33 PM   #16
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I was just bringing up that point after reading all these stock market and dollar crash and burn threads over the last few months. Everybody was like yeah! bring it on that's what we need, and the whole time I'm thinking wait, what about all the old people?
That's a good thing though. I know that the financial crisis has caused at least one nursing home to close here in VT and I'm hoping that it doesn't lead to more as those folks often don't have family to care for them or anything.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:48 PM   #17
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Here's a link to an organisation called Personal Services Society...it's not what it sounds like

http://www.pss.org.uk/page.php?7

One of the services they offer is Adult Placement where those in need of care are placed to live in the home of a suitably vetted Adult Placement Carer rather than an institutional care home. It's one possible solution.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:53 PM   #18
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Here's a link to an organisation called Personal Services Society...it's not what it sounds like

http://www.pss.org.uk/page.php?7

One of the services they offer is Adult Placement where those in need of care are placed to live in the home of a suitably vetted Adult Placement Carer rather than an institutional care home. It's one possible solution.
They sure were unlucky picking their names.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:56 PM   #19
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I'm concerned for the very young as well as the very old.
Though I know that my concern is ill-founded, because I trust 'all that is'.

As opportunities arise for me to help others through this, I'll be doing my part.

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I'm concerned for the very young as well as the very old.
Though I know that my concern is ill-founded, because I trust 'all that is'.

As opportunities arise for me to help others through this, I'll be doing my part.

me too. ours is a small community and there will be much to help neighbours with.
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Dan I was talking to an old man today and he told me he's glad he has lived his life.
It's going to be hard for everyone at any age.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:29 AM   #22
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Dan I was talking to an old man today and he told me he's glad he has lived his life.
It's going to be hard for everyone at any age.
Swanny: I agree with you and others on here. I believe it is necessary for the existing systems to crumble, in order to make way for the new ways to come forward.

I am not at all worried about what will take its place. Somewhere within me, I know and trust that all of what is to be, has been planned out and will be put into place for a whole new paradigm.

I agree though, that in the meantime, while the last remnants are being torn down, there will be great hardship for all of us, of all ages and status. In my opinion, this is unavoidable. There is a certain healing also that can occur within each of us, as we go through this purification. Its a good thing.
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True Swanny and if I live to a ripe old age than I'd think the same way. But if I get to that ripe old age and am just a vegetable laying in a bed in a nursing home and can't wipe my own butt, then put me out of my misery! I don't care, choke me, shoot me, or roll me out in front of a bus.
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I'm not sure about those without any relatives but I do know that my family will be there for my grandmother as she will be 91 in March and we all try to pitch in (though I've slacked off there..yikes) to make her living as comfortable as possible.
That is so nice Humble Janitor. Our elderly in our modern culture are shoved into institutions and forgotten about....it is so sad. The young people are too busy with their work and lifestyle to visit their elderly parents in these places. The loneliness is very hard on them, & quite often they give up and die sooner than they would, if they were able to live at home.

Sorry....don't mean to take this tread off track
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That is so nice Humble Janitor. Our elderly in our modern culture are shoved into institutions and forgotten about....it is so sad. The young people are too busy with their work and lifestyle to visit their elderly parents in these places. The loneliness is very hard on them, & quite often they give up and die sooner than they would, if they were able to live at home.

Sorry....don't mean to take this tread off track
That's ok as it relates to Dan's concern about the older folks who might be left behind should things collapse.

My grandmother is very fortunate to still have her house. Breaking her hip didn't quite stop her, though it's slowed her down a bit.
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