I'm so confused about 2012

Carol · 01-31-2009, 04:30 AM

I just don't know what to do.

On the 2012 thread there is a galactic wave on its way that is going to usher in the golden age of spiritual consciousness.. and for those who have managed to raise their vibrational frequency they may get to exit out an opening to another universe that opens once every 26,000 years and be absorbed back into oneness.

Well I've experienced oneness and even a few upper spiritual heavenly realms and I just don't know if I'm ready to be dissolved back into the ocean of consciousness and give up individuality. After all, I'm just getting into baking a decent loaf of bread and haven't yet painted near the different types of paintings I would like to paint, or compose the music that stirs my heart, or sing all the songs that give me chicken skin, let along plant my aquaponics garden. I've so much left to do, to learn, to experience.

And then there are those who have told me I'm an old, old soul. Well, I do have some very vivid memories of a few past lives so that may be true.. yet I feel like I'm just on the cusp of this great adventure so I'm just not so sure what I want to do. I'm confused. Do I stay behind... willingly, irrespective of the challenges that life presents on a regular basis.

I know I should meditate more, do more spiritual practices and those sort of things but somehow my life seems to be spent on organizing stuff... my daughter's stuff, my husband's stuff, other's stuff, the animals stuff... lots and lots of stuff. Basically, it seems my job is to bring order to the chaos that surrounds me. Now somehow that does seem very worthwhile and well within god's plan. However, I did almost leave to go back to my spiritual home a few times during a few NDE. Yet, after getting a glimps of the chaos that would ensue if I no longer existed in this earthly world I made a commitment to stick it out here for the long haul for my family.

One cannot possibly imagine what would happen to this house if I were not here to sort out stuff. There would be no pathway to the front door or through the bedrooms. One would incur bodily damage in the process of traversing from one end of the house to the other. And as brilliant as my family is as individuals they do tend to be oblivious to their stuff and putting it back where it belongs.

I'm so confused... do I miss out on the galactic wave exodus and wait another 26,000 years for the next wave and incur countless more lifetimes.. or bust out of this pop stand and hope the family tags along?

Please advise.

Meanwhile, I'm buying seeds and windup flashlights and latterns.

orthodoxymoron · 01-31-2009, 05:02 AM

What if our destiny is to keep getting recycled back into earth society...whether we are good or bad...or 55% positive or 55% negative...or regardless of the frequency we are vibrating at...or whatever? What if this really is home? What if all human beings and human souls are our brothers and sisters? However, I envision all of us interacting with the rest of the universe when we finally grow up here on earth...and kick the malevolent aliens and entities into deep space.

Is there an exhaustive collection of all the theories concerning 2012? What is the educated concensus regarding what, if anything, is likely to happen in 2012?

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 05:09 AM

I believe our creator gave us the free will to come here and experience the beauty of this world. There will be plenty of time to experience the ascension. But right here, and right now is the time to create the natural beauty of this world and this life.

Giovonni and I have been sharing some great opera form Luciano Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli...it reminds me of the great beauty we can create as humans on this planet.. in this world.
We came here to create...lets start creating what we came here for..the rest will come naturally

Pavarotti....experience it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mLF...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrm...eature=related

Jonathon · 01-31-2009, 05:26 AM

I feel you Carol, but do not despair. Every end is a new beginning.

My understanding and point of resonance with the various materials and sources I follow is that YOU get the choice during the transition (post-ascension) whether to graduate to 4th+ density or to stay in 3rd density. It may not be on this planet or under similar circumstances, but rest assured your evolution will continue like clockwork - and you get to determine the type and level of experience in your next incarnation. There is nothing to fear. All is well. Follow your heart and live every day to its fullest.

777 The Great Work · 01-31-2009, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol

I just don't know what to do.

On the 2012 thread there is a galactic wave on its way that is going to usher in the golden age of spiritual consciousness.. and for those who have managed to raise their vibrational frequency they may get to exit out an opening to another universe that opens once every 26,000 years and be absorbed back into oneness.

Well I've experienced oneness and even a few upper spiritual heavenly realms and I just don't know if I'm ready to be dissolved back into the ocean of consciousness and give up individuality. After all, I'm just getting into baking a decent loaf of bread and haven't yet painted near the different types of paintings I would like to paint, or compose the music that stirs my heart, or sing all the songs that give me chicken skin, let along plant my aquaponics garden. I've so much left to do, to learn, to experience.

And then there are those who have told me I'm an old, old soul. Well, I do have some very vivid memories of a few past lives so that may be true.. yet I feel like I'm just on the cusp of this great adventure so I'm just not so sure what I want to do. I'm confused. Do I stay behind... willingly, irrespective of the challenges that life presents on a regular basis.

I know I should meditate more, do more spiritual practices and those sort of things but somehow my life seems to be spent on organizing stuff... my daughter's stuff, my husband's stuff, other's stuff, the animals stuff... lots and lots of stuff. Basically, it seems my job is to bring order to the chaos that surrounds me. Now somehow that does seem very worthwhile and well within god's plan. However, I did almost leave to go back to my spiritual home a few times during a few NDE. Yet, after getting a glimps of the chaos that would ensue if I no longer existed in this earthly world I made a commitment to stick it out here for the long haul for my family.

One cannot possibly imagine what would happen to this house if I were not here to sort out stuff. There would be no pathway to the front door or through the bedrooms. One would incur bodily damage in the process of traversing from one end of the house to the other. And as brilliant as my family is as individuals they do tend to be oblivious to their stuff and putting it back where it belongs.

I'm so confused... do I miss out on the galactic wave exodus and wait another 26,000 years for the next wave and incur countless more lifetimes.. or bust out of this pop stand and hope the family tags along?

Please advise.

Meanwhile, I'm buying seeds and windup flashlights and latterns.

The wave is hear now and individuality is oneness.

Carol · 01-31-2009, 05:39 AM

Ahhh, but do we get to bake bread and eat it hot dripping with butter in the 4th dimension?

Alas Brook, you have discovered my inner weakness.. good music and beauty.

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 05:41 AM

Fresh baked bread.....one of the great beauties in life...experience it now....that is what we came her for...to create, and experience

oldpaganfreak · 01-31-2009, 05:47 AM

amen...pass the butter, please!

777 The Great Work · 01-31-2009, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol

Ahhh, but do we get to bake bread and eat it hot dripping with butter in the 4th dimension?

Alas Brook, you have discovered my inner weakness.. good music and beauty.

We become the bread and wine that feeds the multitude. Beyond the veil is better then bread and honey, don't you remember.

just a small taste

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

We become the bread and wine that feeds the multitude. Beyond the veil is better then bread and honey, don't you remember.

just a small taste

So true... we take back that which we experience here, the wisdom and beauty makes us all the more colorful and we expand the universe.

Carol · 01-31-2009, 06:44 AM

bliss is lovely... however, fresh baked bread is bliss too.

BROOK · 01-31-2009, 06:49 AM

This....and Pavarotti are bliss

mu2143 · 01-31-2009, 07:23 AM

Btw where allready in th 4th density and the frequency is increasing till just one day it wil move instantly to the 5th.

because not everone willing to wake up, they are not goining to survive what's coming.

futureyes · 01-31-2009, 07:23 AM

carol ...

i feel where you're coming from ... choices, choices, choices ...

if you are ready to ascend ... you will ascend ... you will know when you know ... your knowing will be absolute ...

you will know you are ready because you will also know and trust your family will be just fine ... this too will be a solid knowing within you ...

moving forward or remaining where we are must come from freedom of choice ... an individual choice ... one to be respected by all ...

we just have to allow for our truth ... then choose accordingly ...

if moving forward resonates within us to do so ... we'll move forward without hesitation ... without concerns ... with trust ...

for me carol these times now are similar to us being on our death beds and being gifted a second chance, but that we have some time to reflect and change course to our outcome should that feel true and right to do so ...

rather than laying there chanting shoulda, coulda, woulda ... we can get up off our beds and live our lives in vitality and wholeness in this moment ... clean up our baggage ... be the best we can humanly be so that if we had to go back to our beds now... we would effortlessly decide if we go or if we stay ...

we can now decide from a place of neutral ... a place of no regrets ... a place that we know all will be fine if we choose to move forward ...

whatever we choose will be true for us because it won't hinge on anything or anyone else ... even fresh baked bread

i just know that no one will move beyond if it does not completely and wholly resonate within them ... it won't be possible ...

live life as best you know how in this moment ... be the best you can be ... for then your choice will come effortlessly ...

for me personally ... as much as i like fresh baked bread ... the fulfillment i experience in higher dimensions i will choose hands down over the bread ...

i have never experienced greater fulfillment of being ... nothing in this world, for me, comes close ...

so i guess i already know my choice ...

maybe just a slice before i go ...

777 The Great Work · 01-31-2009, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C77

The first thing that came into my mind when I read your post Carol was this...

Your attachments to this world will keep you in the cycle of birth and rebirth.
ONLY you can decide to let go of all your attachments...ultimately we come into this world naked and not owning a thing, and when we pass on, we take nothing material with us.
I guess the one thing I want you to know is that...you are truly loved and respected.

Just a little humor Carol i stocked it with bread and the best honey. We love You

kari · 01-31-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

bliss is lovely... however, fresh baked bread is bliss too.

Hi Carol,you can add kiitos to your "thank you" list,it is thank you in Finnish,as for your concern of what will happen in 2012 or when our jorney continues in our afterlife,i think we don`t have to do anything to prepare for that,and why i think in those terms is the following

n earth there are billions of people and only a few know or have an idea of what is coming,but what about the rest of the people that live here? Think about it,not many have access to the information that is on the internet,people with no money,computers or who don`t even have the possibility to go to school,they would all be left behind?No i don`t think so,it`s like if it would be "only the elit" is going to graduate,and the rest will be left behind.
I belive that if you are a good person,helpful,loving and think of others(it does not mean you should forget yourself) you are qualified to go on.
We can if we choose to, help people in need,and to do that without the thought"what`s in it for me" but because we feel in our hearts that it is and it feels good to do a good deed.
It`s a everyday thing that we do,keep the door open to old people,to young people,to anybody that needs a helping hand,it can`t be a trip only for the peolpe with knowledge and money for if that is the case, i wouldn`t bother to go,because then it would be the same as it is now, and we would all be in the same **** as we are in today. Don`t worry to much,just be yourself and live your life,do what you feel is right and enjoy your life.
Kari

rhythm · 01-31-2009, 09:14 AM

Fab thread
i can see myself
riseing above it all .
not quite ready to go
yet ,still one slice
short of a loaf ! .
All you need is
bread , bread bread is all
you need ,see i told yer
im barking .
happy baking.

piers2210 · 01-31-2009, 09:50 AM

Lovely thread...great thoughts.

As I said on another thread once, a good glass of Pinot Noir is all you need...its been described as "sex in a glass", so you get everything you want, right there.....

Czymra · 01-31-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piers2210

Lovely thread...great thoughts.

As I said on another thread once, a good glass of Pinot Noir is all you need...its been described as "sex in a glass", so you get everything you want, right there.....

Now I do expect you to bring that to Avebury.... what... no alcohol before meditation. Man....

piers2210 · 01-31-2009, 10:04 AM

Hey Carol, by the way, if you read Carl Johan Calleman's "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness", you will have missed the boat if you wait till 2012....it apparently sails with all its enlightened souls on 28th October 2011......

Gather up the garden furniture now!!

Atb, Piers

piers2210 · 01-31-2009, 10:14 AM

Czymra, would a case of Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet do ok? A nice medium priced pinot which should go well with the music. Ok, i'm joking...there's a great pub nearby though. Oops. Just keeping a light tone to the serious business of 2012. We've got to have fun still.

P.

AussieG · 01-31-2009, 01:42 PM

2012 will come and go just as we come and go.
What is important is what have we experienced for that is all there is. If looks were important we would all be beautiful, if money was important we would all be rich, if death was an issue we wouldn't die. To evolve to an enlightened being we need to answer any question to be able to do that we must have experienced that situation, honey is just honey until you have tasted it.

We have a conscious that gently and quietly collects our experiences this is the only real part of us and it is the conscious that goes on. So there is no good or bad it is just experience. If there is no good or bad then there can be no real fear.
As for wanting to stay and care for loved ones, giving is the greatest experience (for it was the first experience of all), provided it doesn't restrict the gaining of their experiences, we are all here to learn.

Our conscious is higher connected, follow its guidance and through intuition come 2012 you will know what to do, but for now as mother Teresa said "find someone who is alone and let them know that there not". The real gift is giving its self.

Czymra · 01-31-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piers2210

Czymra, would a case of Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet do ok? A nice medium priced pinot which should go well with the music. Ok, i'm joking...there's a great pub nearby though. Oops. Just keeping a light tone to the serious business of 2012. We've got to have fun still.

P.

Might you be of French origin?

I'm curious about the Ave pub. The B&B I'll stay at looks peculiar already.

As for staying or going, I'm sure when the time strikes we will know. I wouldn't worry there. Also, when you are of higher dimension, who says you can't visit those left behind?

Dantheman62 · 01-31-2009, 04:30 PM

If something happens, it happens, if not then so be it. I myself like it here and really am not ready to move on to the next density. I've got a long ways to go spiritually and if that means I stay here and do it over and over again, so be it. I really don't even want to go to the telepathic level, I mean how do you tell a joke telepathically?, you can't, because everyone would already know the punch line! LOL!

rhythm · 01-31-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

If something happens, it happens, if not then so be it. I myself like it here and really am not ready to move on to the next density. I've got a long ways to go spiritually and if that means I stay here and do it over and over again, so be it. I really don't even want to go to the telepathic level, I mean how do you tell a joke telepathically?, you can't, because everyone would already know the punch line! LOL!

I BET YOU WOULD REALY BE RELIEVED
THINK ABOUT IT DAN NO MORE BIRD
POO , NO MORE LOUNGE , hmmm ,
you could be right , but my telepathic
power tell me ,er, i keep that to myself
i will pm you later i got a better punch line
for yer

01-31-2009, 04:30 AM	#1
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	I'm so confused about 2012 I just don't know what to do. On the 2012 thread there is a galactic wave on its way that is going to usher in the golden age of spiritual consciousness.. and for those who have managed to raise their vibrational frequency they may get to exit out an opening to another universe that opens once every 26,000 years and be absorbed back into oneness. Well I've experienced oneness and even a few upper spiritual heavenly realms and I just don't know if I'm ready to be dissolved back into the ocean of consciousness and give up individuality. After all, I'm just getting into baking a decent loaf of bread and haven't yet painted near the different types of paintings I would like to paint, or compose the music that stirs my heart, or sing all the songs that give me chicken skin, let along plant my aquaponics garden. I've so much left to do, to learn, to experience. And then there are those who have told me I'm an old, old soul. Well, I do have some very vivid memories of a few past lives so that may be true.. yet I feel like I'm just on the cusp of this great adventure so I'm just not so sure what I want to do. I'm confused. Do I stay behind... willingly, irrespective of the challenges that life presents on a regular basis. I know I should meditate more, do more spiritual practices and those sort of things but somehow my life seems to be spent on organizing stuff... my daughter's stuff, my husband's stuff, other's stuff, the animals stuff... lots and lots of stuff. Basically, it seems my job is to bring order to the chaos that surrounds me. Now somehow that does seem very worthwhile and well within god's plan. However, I did almost leave to go back to my spiritual home a few times during a few NDE. Yet, after getting a glimps of the chaos that would ensue if I no longer existed in this earthly world I made a commitment to stick it out here for the long haul for my family. One cannot possibly imagine what would happen to this house if I were not here to sort out stuff. There would be no pathway to the front door or through the bedrooms. One would incur bodily damage in the process of traversing from one end of the house to the other. And as brilliant as my family is as individuals they do tend to be oblivious to their stuff and putting it back where it belongs. I'm so confused... do I miss out on the galactic wave exodus and wait another 26,000 years for the next wave and incur countless more lifetimes.. or bust out of this pop stand and hope the family tags along? Please advise. Meanwhile, I'm buying seeds and windup flashlights and latterns. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-31-2009, 05:02 AM	#2
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 What if our destiny is to keep getting recycled back into earth society...whether we are good or bad...or 55% positive or 55% negative...or regardless of the frequency we are vibrating at...or whatever? What if this really is home? What if all human beings and human souls are our brothers and sisters? However, I envision all of us interacting with the rest of the universe when we finally grow up here on earth...and kick the malevolent aliens and entities into deep space. Is there an exhaustive collection of all the theories concerning 2012? What is the educated concensus regarding what, if anything, is likely to happen in 2012?

01-31-2009, 05:09 AM	#3
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 I believe our creator gave us the free will to come here and experience the beauty of this world. There will be plenty of time to experience the ascension. But right here, and right now is the time to create the natural beauty of this world and this life. Giovonni and I have been sharing some great opera form Luciano Pavarotti and Andrea Bocelli...it reminds me of the great beauty we can create as humans on this planet.. in this world. We came here to create...lets start creating what we came here for..the rest will come naturally Pavarotti....experience it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mLF...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrm...eature=related

01-31-2009, 05:26 AM	#4
Jonathon Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 208	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 I feel you Carol, but do not despair. Every end is a new beginning. My understanding and point of resonance with the various materials and sources I follow is that YOU get the choice during the transition (post-ascension) whether to graduate to 4th+ density or to stay in 3rd density. It may not be on this planet or under similar circumstances, but rest assured your evolution will continue like clockwork - and you get to determine the type and level of experience in your next incarnation. There is nothing to fear. All is well. Follow your heart and live every day to its fullest.

01-31-2009, 05:39 AM	#6
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Ahhh, but do we get to bake bread and eat it hot dripping with butter in the 4th dimension? Alas Brook, you have discovered my inner weakness.. good music and beauty. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198 Last edited by Carol; 01-31-2009 at 05:41 AM.

01-31-2009, 05:41 AM	#7
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Fresh baked bread.....one of the great beauties in life...experience it now....that is what we came her for...to create, and experience

01-31-2009, 05:47 AM	#8
oldpaganfreak Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: great northern boreal forest Posts: 440	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 amen...pass the butter, please!

01-31-2009, 06:44 AM	#11
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 bliss is lovely... however, fresh baked bread is bliss too. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

01-31-2009, 06:49 AM	#12
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 This....and Pavarotti are bliss

01-31-2009, 07:23 AM	#13
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Btw where allready in th 4th density and the frequency is increasing till just one day it wil move instantly to the 5th. because not everone willing to wake up, they are not goining to survive what's coming.

01-31-2009, 07:23 AM	#14
futureyes Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: heart central Posts: 798	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 carol ... i feel where you're coming from ... choices, choices, choices ... if you are ready to ascend ... you will ascend ... you will know when you know ... your knowing will be absolute ... you will know you are ready because you will also know and trust your family will be just fine ... this too will be a solid knowing within you ... moving forward or remaining where we are must come from freedom of choice ... an individual choice ... one to be respected by all ... we just have to allow for our truth ... then choose accordingly ... if moving forward resonates within us to do so ... we'll move forward without hesitation ... without concerns ... with trust ... for me carol these times now are similar to us being on our death beds and being gifted a second chance, but that we have some time to reflect and change course to our outcome should that feel true and right to do so ... rather than laying there chanting shoulda, coulda, woulda ... we can get up off our beds and live our lives in vitality and wholeness in this moment ... clean up our baggage ... be the best we can humanly be so that if we had to go back to our beds now... we would effortlessly decide if we go or if we stay ... we can now decide from a place of neutral ... a place of no regrets ... a place that we know all will be fine if we choose to move forward ... whatever we choose will be true for us because it won't hinge on anything or anyone else ... even fresh baked bread i just know that no one will move beyond if it does not completely and wholly resonate within them ... it won't be possible ... live life as best you know how in this moment ... be the best you can be ... for then your choice will come effortlessly ... for me personally ... as much as i like fresh baked bread ... the fulfillment i experience in higher dimensions i will choose hands down over the bread ... i have never experienced greater fulfillment of being ... nothing in this world, for me, comes close ... so i guess i already know my choice ... maybe just a slice before i go ...

01-31-2009, 09:14 AM	#17
rhythm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: devon england Posts: 1,905	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Fab thread i can see myself riseing above it all . not quite ready to go yet ,still one slice short of a loaf ! . All you need is bread , bread bread is all you need ,see i told yer im barking . happy baking.

01-31-2009, 09:50 AM	#18
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Lovely thread...great thoughts. As I said on another thread once, a good glass of Pinot Noir is all you need...its been described as "sex in a glass", so you get everything you want, right there.....

01-31-2009, 10:04 AM	#20
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Hey Carol, by the way, if you read Carl Johan Calleman's "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness", you will have missed the boat if you wait till 2012....it apparently sails with all its enlightened souls on 28th October 2011...... Gather up the garden furniture now!! Atb, Piers

01-31-2009, 10:14 AM	#21
piers2210 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 403	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 Czymra, would a case of Chateau de Puligny-Montrachet do ok? A nice medium priced pinot which should go well with the music. Ok, i'm joking...there's a great pub nearby though. Oops. Just keeping a light tone to the serious business of 2012. We've got to have fun still. P.

01-31-2009, 01:42 PM	#22
AussieG Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 187	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 2012 will come and go just as we come and go. What is important is what have we experienced for that is all there is. If looks were important we would all be beautiful, if money was important we would all be rich, if death was an issue we wouldn't die. To evolve to an enlightened being we need to answer any question to be able to do that we must have experienced that situation, honey is just honey until you have tasted it. We have a conscious that gently and quietly collects our experiences this is the only real part of us and it is the conscious that goes on. So there is no good or bad it is just experience. If there is no good or bad then there can be no real fear. As for wanting to stay and care for loved ones, giving is the greatest experience (for it was the first experience of all), provided it doesn't restrict the gaining of their experiences, we are all here to learn. Our conscious is higher connected, follow its guidance and through intuition come 2012 you will know what to do, but for now as mother Teresa said "find someone who is alone and let them know that there not". The real gift is giving its self.

01-31-2009, 04:30 PM	#24
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: I'm so confused about 2012 If something happens, it happens, if not then so be it. I myself like it here and really am not ready to move on to the next density. I've got a long ways to go spiritually and if that means I stay here and do it over and over again, so be it. I really don't even want to go to the telepathic level, I mean how do you tell a joke telepathically?, you can't, because everyone would already know the punch line! LOL!