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Old 01-30-2009, 01:21 PM   #1
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As for a symbol or gesture I can see why you use 1 and 2. However to me the representation of 1 and 0 is more sound.

1 is the individual
0 is the whole

This might be a little more esoteric but it resonates within me at a level that is less language and more symbolism.

What comes to mind here then is the power symbol.



The first one is more symmetric and less suggestive of a phallus I think. It could also stand for awakening as an allegory of power off or on.

It's simple and it's widely recognised, maybe readjusting it's meaning is possible and even as a process better than something entirely new?

I'm not sure.

However one could easily transcribe this into a gesture.

(Deaf gesture for G, which in less shorthand for is the power symbol laid sideways.)


One other thing that I do without noticing it half of the times is the Prana mudra in front of my nose. If someone can shed light on this I'd be quite glad to hear it by the way.


It seems like a splitting of the eyes, as if I acknowledge to recognise this for what they are, but it also is a I on an O, a straight finger before a face.

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Old 01-31-2009, 02:59 AM   #2
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I would like to repeat the statement I made earlier in the thread about loving one's enemies. There are certain "enemies" that love will bring over to our side, certain small enmities that love will reconcile. That is not the case with the present battle. Do not waste your love on those who work ceaselessly for your destruction and enslavement. And do not hate them either. Give them nothing.
The enemy, and yes, there is an enemy, does not play by the rules. Truth, Justice, Honor, Virtue, and Impeccability do not have a place in their playbook. Nor do love of creation or gratitude to the Creator. They must take primary place in ours if we are to exemplify that which we would bring about.
At the same time, by consciously choosing the side of creative evolution, we gain the ability to access the powers of creation, powers that are not available to the enemy. Expansive, joyful vision and creativity are ours to use at will.
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This brings me to another difficult topic. The old paradigm is built on having an 'enemy'. Something out there to blame. This might not be a separate issue at all, but undermining that meme is a tough nut at the basis.
About the idea of not having an enemy....To me there is an enemy, but it's one that's both separate and a part of each of us. I use the word "enemy" to describe a sort of parasite that's consuming not only the energy of humanity, but also the energy of nature and of Earth. This is not just our shadows, or some subconscious aspect of ourselves which happens to be playing itself out in this realm -- but those aspects of us are involved and actively assisting the parasites.

There's a part of each of us (the non-psychopathic ones of us), something like a gene or a code we carry, that seems to have been designed to be activated by the parasitic entities, so that we're attracted or coerced into participating in its consumption and service to self paradigm. The enemy is a form of life that is consciously separating itself from Oneness and which lives by a hatred of the natural order and of Life itself. We need to be conscious of how we've been subliminally activated so we can override that program with intent. The vector of human evolution will not change until a critical mass of beings intentionally invokes a change of direction.

We cannot love this enemy to the light. It will not play by the higher frequency rules we respect, but playing by its rules will necessarily draw us down into lower vibrational manifestations of ourselves, and ultimately destroy our abilities to co-create an enlightened planet.

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There are already multitudes of wondrous and powerful beings in the higher dimensions who are participants in the process that's playing out here on the ground. If they could easily fix the situation on this planet, we probably wouldn't have been allowed to take it to the brink of global annihilation.
Therefore there's nothing to be gained in this struggle by spending all our time working on leaving the earth plane to ascend into those realms and join the rest of the beings there...watching, and sending energy and advice. It's a much bigger deal to awaken our own higher dimensional perceptions while remaining physically in this dimension, so we can better work on the source of the problems.

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What needs to be done here is 3 steps:
1. Present an intention for the project (already done but formulate it concise, it needs to be for a film as this is the guiding idea that you need to come back to again and again and measure all things by.)
2. Write a Treatment which sketches out the spirit and the mode of the piece, all that is necessary to convey that message and its feel and possibly look, some of the emotions.
3. Produce a step outline, each basic station of happening needs to be accounted for, however no details whatsoever, no subplots, just what drives the story forward through time.

With this setup you have the three shells of a film that can then amalgamate into a script and a storyboard, whichever you're more comfortable in doing first.
I suggest that we take time and care when developing this, mainly because I know it's hard but also because I myself am working on so much right now, I simply can't take on another full time project, yet I would love to have my part in it. I suggest to simply weigh ideas and produce some examples to discuss.
I agree with all of this. I'm not even clear on the precise intention involved here. For me there's no point in going too far until that business is resolved. Once the intention is clarified, it will color and influence the next steps in the process. If nothing comes out of this dialog but a clear intention that makes sense and which could become viral, that would be a major accomplishment in itself.

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I like this, "one within the whole" idea. It doesn't quite fit with 1m1ru12, at least not yet...but they both make a strong statement.
Czymra, where does this symbol come from?
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Old 01-31-2009, 09:42 AM   #3
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Well, you should see it somewhere on your TV, Radio... many electrical devices bear it. At least where I come from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_symbol

There is something similar in Reiki it seems:
http://www.hypno-analysis.co.uk/powe...ol%20reiki.gif

But apart from that I can't find much history here. I'm probably not informed about the right terminology.

Some similar signs can be found here:
http://www.radioliberty.com/Symbolsandtheirmeaning.html


Oh actually it's already done:
http://www.empowerthyself.com/symbol
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Old 02-02-2009, 01:23 AM   #4
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I liked the on/off symbol that Czymra posted, but not at all the fact that it's embossed on the buttons of my shop vac.

I started chasing around the idea of the 0 being inside of the 1, instead the inverse, and remembered a little zen saying which I can misquote:
"All know that the drop is contained in the ocean, but few understand that the ocean is contained within the drop"

That led to seeing a character from the Greek alphabet in my mind, that turned out to be "phi", and which I improvised into this:



Coincidentally, phi is used to represent the "golden ratio", 1.6180339887, a subject that I'm sure many PA readers are familiar with, though it seems that the upper case is more often associated with 1/ϕ, the inverse of the golden mean. Nevertheless, I like the connection and that this symbol is used to stand for one of the major principles of the mathematical nature of the universe and the life forms within it.

I went one more step and added the slogan we discussed earlier, which led to this:



It can be used with or without the alphabetized slogan, which can also be used by itself, and it's all built upon an ancient character which is representative of the fractal nature of reality.

So let me know what y'all think, how it works or doesn't work for you, and especially clue me in if you know whether this symbol is already "out there" somewhere.

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Old 02-02-2009, 05:10 AM   #5
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OK, My turn:


This is so much fun!

This is not the Arabic numeral one, but it is at the same time the Roman numeral one and the letter I.



Interestingly, I was thinking about the I O too, and the worm ouruborus biting its tail. Didn't make the phi connection though until sun-toon brought it up.

Probably would look better with the center of the I faded out a little so the Earth shows through.

(I think the origin, as used on the on/off switch, is digital computer code, 1 and 0.)
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:25 AM   #6
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good your having fun with this asteram ... your passion's showing

i like this ... i like the solidness of the "I" ... and the earth ...

something needs tweaking a bit ... can't put my finger on it ... perhaps the scale of it or something ...

feels like it conveys a solid statement ...

something about it ... gripping it is ...

hmm ...

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Old 02-02-2009, 01:10 PM   #7
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Wow hey guys, this is really getting concrete!
I love this!

SOMEHOW this is so terribly familiar. I want to think of Babylon 5 but don't know why.

Nevertheless, I do think that it needs to be a more subtle I or transparent, lest it will cut the world in two.
I'm also not sure if the world as such is the right thing but taking on the PHI sign and turning it into that makes sense.

Maybe it's just that the north American land mass is showing....
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Old 02-02-2009, 01:56 PM   #8
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viewing it this morning ... yes ... the I requires some softening but i still like it ...

i feel what you do cyzmra ... a familiarity about it ...

when i woke up this was on my brain and along with it came "babylon" ... then i read what you wrote ...

a little twilight zone-ish ...

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Old 02-02-2009, 05:27 PM   #9
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viewing it this morning ... yes ... the I requires some softening but i still like it ...

i feel what you do cyzmra ... a familiarity about it ...

when i woke up this was on my brain and along with it came "babylon" ... then i read what you wrote ...

a little twilight zone-ish ...

Strange, I can't for the life of me find a Babylon 5 picture with a globe.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:02 PM   #10
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I haven't been able to load any high-byte pages such as project avalon from the web for days, and I've had to work between 3am and 7am in order to upload anything. Just so you know. Here is an important story that was posted by RML in the comment section at Smoking Mirrors blog today. It appears to have everything to do with what we are discussing here:


I woke up one day in the San Francisco County jail, in an orange outfit, wall-to-wall crammed, surrounded with every vice-drenched, son of Donkey Island bad-guy the nuns spent years warning us about. They were all there. The wise-guy hit man with the greased slick-backed hairdo, the celeb drug-dealer-to-the-rockstars, Mr. Brown (who was black), and the flotsam and jetsam of society, all looking for a weakness… looking for any remnant of purity and innocence so that they could beat the **** out of it.

Contradictory vibrations cannot occupy the same space. There were no oxymoron’s there. No sir. Any part of goodness, any part of gentleness and compassion had long ago disappeared from the mind chatter of this lot.

Most of the inmates were black, and all deferred to Mr. Brown. The white muscle-bound hitman spent his time picking on one of the other whites, some frail soon-to-be-somebody's bitch (or dead). Hit man got bored. You can pretend to dry-hump a pansy for so long and the whole bit gets boring. So what does he do? He comes for me.

Other than Hitman, the pansy and me, the only other white guy left is an old Clint Eastwood type of lifer-on-parole with a titanium aura that no one was going to penetrate. He was paroled. He was on the way out. Period.

New meat, I was. Not a soul in the world could help me out of this. There was no flight, just fight. There I was trapped at the end of the cell-block, on the upper bunk, just above the hole-in-the-floor toilet. I figured that it would be best to take blows from the back, so I rolled over, turned away, and waited for the collision.

The blacks, bored with the pansy's whimpering, were egging Hitman on. "How did I ever get into this ****" mantra played in my head.

This huge hand wrapped around my thigh and squeezed. This was it! Hitman sneered, "What are you gonna do about it, punk? You gonna stick up for your blood over there?"

His hand moved higher. "What are you gonna do, punk?" Everyone in the cellblock was energized, on the verge ...

Without thinking or any warning, these words came out of my mouth, "This is no way for a Pisces to act..." He pulled his hand away. "Pisces don't treat other Pisces this way..."

Silence.

Hitman struggled to figure out what just happened. I couldn't help him; I didn't know either. Inches from my ear, he spoke, "How did you know I was a Pisces? Only my mom knows."

I couldn't let on that I was as dumbfounded as he was. "It's written all over your face."

Nobody did any wooga, any crazy whiteman gris gris in Mr. Brown's cellblock. No sir. Everybody -- even the guards -- demurred to Mr. Brown. You just don't drop bombshells in his space unless he authorized it. That's how it worked.

I rolled over, and sat on the edge of the bunk. Hitman was changed, if only for a minute. Mr. Brown entouraged on over.

"Do you know who I am, boy?" I shook my head, no. "You know Janice Joplin, right? The Dead? The Stones when they're in town ... you know them? I nodded my head this time. "Where do you think they get their stuff, their smack, their H?" Proudly tapping his finger on his chest, "From me. I am the man..."

Affirmative murmurings chorused from all the bros in the cellblock, "Mr. Brown's the man..."

“Do you read charts, boy?” Mr. Brown’s tone slipped into friendly.

I lied, “Yes I do. But I don’t have my ephemeris, my books …”

Mr. Brown, of course, got me the books and materials that I needed to do charts. I spent days doing them for everybody in the block. The guards wanted me to do it for them. I made most of it up. But it rang true. This is how the "edge" works.

Every single one of them had the same question and wanted an answer, "Why in the hell am I in here? How can incarceration be what my life's about?" They were all wounded, some crushed beyond recognition. But they all wanted to know, "Why?" And, to a man, they were seekers – like us, they simply wanted to know who they really were.

All I could come up with was that we are all in a movie; like the movie The Bridge Over the River Kwai. For me, this movie was almost an exact analogy of life on this planet. We arrive with a mission. We forget our mission, and take up the mission of our enemy, even though this new mission is at odds with our original. Not only do we take up this errant mission, we try and excel at it. We try and do it better than our "enemy". We defend our enemy’s project with our all, and then we die.

All of the POWs who worked on the bridge, as well as us watching the film, didn't want the bridge destroyed, but it was. All of the characters we were rooting for were killed, and as a footnote, the only sane one of the bunch, the medical officer, painful surmised as the insanity played out, "Madness. It's all madness."

For the longest time, I couldn’t explain it to anyone (they wouldn’t understand), but I didn’t want to leave the cell block. I didn’t want to leave all that magic behind.
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I'll be back with more in a few hours. Love you All.
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Duplicate post.

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Old 02-05-2009, 04:17 AM   #12
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Asteram?... I'm right along with you.. granted i've not read all your posts, but the ones that I've read...

you have a goodly and right mental stance.,, there is balance.
I'm right there with you also as far as your take w/the 2012 Nexus event ... I've veered away from that mindset...
so, altho I'm not inviting discussion there... I just want you to know
that you are doing quite well, thank you.

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There must be people reading this thread, judging by the numbers...

Czymra, sun-toon, futureyes, and all-

Yes, it's the North American continent behind that "I". No reason for that except that was the easiest pic to work with that I pulled up with a quick google search. Perhaps centered on the Pacific Ocean would be more neutral, but this is the 20 minute version. Surprisingly small selection of Earth from space pics on google images.

RE recording- I have a PC running Windows XP; I'm sure I can jack the keyboard directly into the computer. At this point I'm not concerned about quality recording, only being able to share the melodies and lyrics and get some feedback from you all.

The reason I am leaning toward animation is that I don't want specific people, but rather their archetypes; all of the various categories that we fit into regardless of the society we are in, plus a representation of various world societies as well. I mentioned seashore's dance videos and the way they appeared on my intermittent web connection, jerky and indistinct, in other words somewhat like a frame-by-frame of an animation.

If a video were made with the parts danced/walked through by the characters, what would it take to then use them to produce animation? The video that is in my mind is the classic "Take On Me" by A-Ha from the 1980s, real footage turning into animation and back. I think that technique, combined with a contrast of B/W and color, could be very effective, for instance starting with each character in grainy B/W in their unhappy life in a dismal world, then the dream and being given the ticket picking up a bit of color and animation, more color and full animation as the "train to the new world" scenes unfold, and at the end, back to somewhat realism but with exaggerated color intensity and clarity.

It would require some heavy-duty hardware and software, but all of that is possible. I'm sure the movie special effects studios have software that will do that sort of thing. I have heard of a program called RenderMan. And yes, this seems at odds with my earlier claim of keeping it simple, but the whole length would only be around 12 minutes or less.

I do have a good and reasonably complete mental image of the plot, just need to write it. Here's a rough version:

Each person is isolated, and thinks they are the only one who finds the present life and its goals unfulfilling. We start with a young girl in a dismal slum. She has a dream of happiness with a boy, in a different world where things are beautiful and make sense. Her dream also includes family that cares about each other, lives in happiness, and community that works together for the betterment of all. At the very end, as she awakes from the dream of riding the train to the new world, awakes in her own bed right where she started out, still in the same miserable slum, she is at first disappointed, but the dream is too strong to let go; she gets out of bed determined to make the dream come true, somehow. As she goes out of her room and sees her family, they look different; they start to look like the family in the dream, because deep inside they all had that same dream, they all were on that train, they all went to the new world and awoke with the same determination to make the dream come true. The dream family is her own family, the dream world is right where she is right now, and the boy she dreamed about lives right next door.

That's the basic romance, but I also see mothers and children, husbands and wives, old people in nursing homes etc playing a role in this. Everyone has a dream of how things could and should be.

The purpose and the message would be to awaken people's dreams, and show them they are possible; not only possible but that all of this can change in the twinkling of an eye. Another message would be that they are not alone in having those dreams, that most of us dream the same dream but we have somehow been tricked into working against ourselves, working on the enemy's projects that only serve to enslave us, putting all of our energy into building our own dismal prison.

This video project would not be something we could do quickly with our present resources, but I will keep thinking about it and working on it and I hope others will too.

For now, we seem to have come up with a resonant symbol. How cool is that?

Here are my latest revisions, still unpolished, but it's looking more like the Greek Phi:


and with words added:



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Hello all, just wanted to add something after reading this thread again....

'i am a human becoming, help me to become'

I can see that some might take this 'saying' or 'prayer' the wrong way, but the only way I've ever used it when I sense that my 'Genetic Mind' is being sprung into a trap of reactivity. IE just before you are about to say somehting that you'll regret, or during an argument, or when getting angry, or whatever, small or large. When I've said it, I've not said it to 'higher beings' as a plead for help, more as a message to myself outside of time perhaps, and also as a message to my surrounding reality. but not to powerful Pleidians managing my every interaction.
And I must say that it works, and It perfectly invokes the essences of AIAB.

Afterthought; I suspect kinesiology would give you a different reading if you had the [in my view] correct interpretation of the 'saying/prayer'

The problem with the books though, wonderful and valid though they still are, is that I'm starting to see that they were written for another timeline, one that was never going to happen, one where the world woke up without massive duress.
Hence the slightly more negative-in-outlook 4th book, when the 'window' is seen to be passing without sufficient action.


Oh, yeah, and my personal saying, which is pretty universal is this;

"Live in Love"
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I looked up kinesiology several times and never came across anything that related here. I thought it was about the sound of the words up till now but if you mention intention that must be way off. So what is kinesiology?
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I assume it's a form of dowsing........but with a scientific name......
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Is this thread dead already?
The video/film has been going through my mind a lot and I have the feeling that an action like the one mentioned before (I am 1, R U 1 2?) would be more powerful than creating a virtual space.
How many films have you seen change our reality lately? I can count them on one hand.

If it is however identification you're looking for, I don't think that animation is any step ahead of live action... in fact I think identification suffers from having something too virtual.
Identification to characters happens through the blandness of that character, its shallowness... watch any Steven Spielberg film and you see this confirmed.
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So what is kinesiology


It is the study of the bodies movement . For example the human body when you move your arm it rotates on a certain Axis and moves on a certain plane alot of Physiotherapists use kinesiology to assist in the healing of and aid in the regaining of movement after injuries sustained in various accidents and sports injuries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinesiology

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It is the study of the bodies movement . For example the human body when you move your arm it rotates on a certain Axis and moves on a certain plane alot of Physiotherapists use kinesiology to assist in the healing of and aid in the regaining of movement after injuries sustained in various accidents and sports injuries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinesiology
Yes, I found that too, but you do realise that the concept is a little more warped when you suddenly speak about the kinesiology of words and their intent?
It's not like I don't get the idea, but I can't define it either.
Alliteration is probably the closest concept I can voice.
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DayZero, Czymra, Northern Boy-

Well obviously the thread is not dead. You all are still posting here.

I have been remiss about it, mostly because I've been very busy with the New Agriculture, also because I've been doing a lot of thinking about where it's going, and a significant part is because these pages are difficult to load for my slow web connection.

The kinesiology that we were referring to at the beginning of the thread is indeed somewhat like dowsing, and likely as prone to error as the worst forms of dowsing.

I can dowse water lines, springs, buried pipes with full accuracy. I have shown a number of people how to do it and it's my contention that we all have the ability. Dowsing a buried pipe, then digging it up and finding it exactly where one dowsed it proves the concept. Other forms of dowsing are more iffy.

The kinesiology we were talking about is probably better referred to as "muscle testing". The basic technique is to have a person hold one arm straight out to the side. A different person, the tester, pushes down on the subject's arm and gauges how much resistive strength the subject has.

One common way to use this muscle testing is to have the subject hold a sample of a drug, herb, or nutritional supplement in their hand while their arm is being pushed down. The theory is that if the sample is beneficial to the person, their resistive strength will increase, and vice versa.

To test a word or phrase, the subject would say the word(s) out loud while the tester was trying to force their arm down. A simple example would be to note the difference in resistive strength between a subject saying the words "strong" and "weak".

Obviously this could easily be misused, abused, and misinterpreted accidentally or deliberately, and I've seen that happen. For instance, in drug or supplement testing, if either the tester or the subject has negative feelings about the substance it is likely to affect the outcome. The same would apply to words.

Nonetheless, it does have some use and validity in the hands of a skilled and objective tester, and the tests can easily be run multiple times with different testers and subjects.

Which brings me to DayZero's insightful comments on "We are all humans becoming, help us to become".

It makes sense that used as a reminder to one's self the phrase would be more useful than as an empowering prayer for help. My compliments to an adept who has the self-awareness to use it in that way.

I'd also agree that the New Paradigm books may have been directed towards a timeline that didn't manifest, or at least isn't this present one. The physical groups didn't form, nor have they formed as a result of Project Avalon, from what I can see. But we do have this incredible internet connection worldwide, the extent and sophistication of which was difficult to imagine ten or twelve years ago. In my view it has much more potential than whatever groupings one was likely to find in one's local neighborhood would have had. In addition, we are all finding people around the world that we can relate to well. This is a very good thing.

Getting back to the Genetic Mind, I've been doing some looking, and the earliest usage of the term I can find is in the Philosophy section from the original WingMakers website material from the late 1990s. Here is the definition and partial explanation from there, taken from a hardcopy printout done at that time:

"The genetic mind is the equivalent of a universal belief system that penetrates, to varying degrees, the human instrument of all entities. In some, it immobilizes their ability to think original thoughts and feel original feelings. In most, it entrains their belief system to harmonize with the accepted belief systems of the Hierarchy. In a few, it exerts no significant force nor has any bearing on the development of their personal belief system.

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The genetic mind is different from the subconscious or universal mind as it is sometimes referred to in your psychology texts, in that the genetic mind has a peculiar focus on the accumulated beliefs of all the people on a planet from its most distant past to its present time. These accumulated beliefs are actually manipulations of the Hierarchy, which imprint on the genetic mind in order to cast the boundaries of what is acceptable to believe.

So compelling is this manipulation and the boundaries that are imposed by the Hierarchy that virtually no one is aware of the manipulations of their beliefs......

If we were to tell you about the fundamental misconceptions of your genetic mind, you would not believe us. You would most definitely--even your most accomplished spiritual leaders--find us in contempt of much of what you hold true and reasonable. You would feel fear in the face of our expression of Source Reality because it would be so clear to you haw you have squandered your divine natures in favor of the entrapment of the genetic mind.

We know this will seem like a judgment of your beliefs, and it is to some degree, but you must know this about your belief systems: they are largely disconnected from Source Reality
.

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Over the next twenty years, the genetic mind will become increasingly fragmented and thus, vulnerable to modification. This will be an effect of the growing ubiquity of intelligent networks and artificial intelligence therein. The expanding interconnection of intelligent networks has a significant impact on the genetic mind because of the emergence of a global culture that accompanies the arrival of such technologies
." END QUOTE

And we do see this happening, do we not? Perhaps not much yet among those who are "immobilized in their ability to think original thoughts and feel original feelings", but we do see changes in those who otherwise would have their belief systems "entrained to the accepted belief systems of the Hierarchy", and some major waking up going on among those upon whom the genetic mind "exerts no significant force nor has any bearing on the development of their personal belief system".

Every one of us is being affected by the explosion not just of knowledge, but of connection with others both of like mind and of very different outlooks.

It appears to this observer that the WingMakers predictions are proving closer to the mark than those set out in the New Paradigm handbooks. Please note that I do not mean that as a negative reflection on the NP material; in anything it is wise to take what is most useful and I for one have found much of value in the NP books, and continue to do so. My environmental agriculture project is a direct consequence of the challenge put out by the NP books.

The WingMakers site, however, clearly foresaw what the web was going to accomplish. I've only touched on what they predicted in the excerpts above.

Moving right along, but still on topic, over the last couple of weeks while thinking about this thread I went back and re-read the written interview with James from the Wingmakers that Kerry Cassidy conducted last fall and published at Project Camelot.

Here is what was said, ten years later, relevant to the genetic mind in that interview: http://projectcamelot.org/james_wing..._integral.html

"Human Mind System (HMS) – The Human Mind System is separated into three primary functional mechanisms: The unconscious or genetic mind, the subconscious, and the conscious. These three components intermingle to form what most people term consciousness. The HMS is the most opaque and distorted veil that has stood between humanity and its true self, perverting its self-expression within the domains we call reality.

The unconscious, genetic mind is the repository of all humanity; the subconscious is the repository of the family bloodlines; and the conscious mind is the repository of the individual. However, and this is important to understand, the foundational patterns of thought are primarily from the subconscious and genetic mind structures of consciousness. Thus, while the individual believes themselves to be individual, unique, separate, and one-of-a-kind, in reality they are not. Not in the context of HMS.

You can conceptualize yourself as a copy of the human family folded inside a copy of your parents and bloodlines, placed into an individualized expression: you. The “You” is an HMS particularized into one expression, but its roots are entirely planted in the soil of humanity and parental lineage, all of which is downloaded into the developing fetus before birth.

This is precisely why, after ten thousand generations, we continue to operate in the same patterns of greed, separation, and self-destruction. The image in the mirror is upgraded with better “clothing” and more sophisticated masks, but underneath, the image remains the same feelings, the same thoughts, and the same behaviors.

Social and cultural engineering via the entertainment and educational systems conspire to entrain the individual during their developmental years (3-14 years old), activating the programs and subsystems of the HMS to ensure that the individual is properly prepared to conform to the reality matrix of their time and place. Even those who are non-conformists, who fancy themselves “outside the box”, are well within the perimeter of the HMS.
"

and further:

"Genetic Manipulation System (GMS) – This system was an outgrowth of various interdimensional races working to create a suitable instrument for accessing the physical world. It was Anu who specifically wanted to not only access the physical world in order to exploit its resources, but to do so by suppressing the infinite beings that would power the human instruments so he had the equivalent of willing slaves. Yes, infinite beings can be suppressed into finite beings when they are subjected to HMS.

In the course of engineering the human instrument, it was decided to create GMS as a means to modify the human instrument over time, as it evolved, to ensure it would never achieve self-realization or the Sovereign Integral state of awareness. The state of satori, nirvana, cosmic consciousness, enlightenment, and rapture were all different names for heightened states within the GSSC, which was still within the HMS domain, but these became checkpoints that triggered GMS interventions. The true state of the Sovereign Integral – even after death of the human instrument – was never realized by a member of the human family until very recently.
" END QUOTE

If the above information is valid, we can begin to see the extent of the deception that was hinted at in the original Philosophy excerpt above:

"If we were to tell you about the fundamental misconceptions of your genetic mind, you would not believe us. You would most definitely--even your most accomplished spiritual leaders--find us in contempt of much of what you hold true and reasonable. You would feel fear in the face of our expression of Source Reality because it would be so clear to you haw you have squandered your divine natures in favor of the entrapment of the genetic mind."

There is much more along these lines to be found in the recent interview. These quotes are only from the beginning. Those of you who haven't read it yet are encouraged to do so, and those who have already read it might want to give it another look, particularly the answers to questions 19 and on.


If this info is valid, we are indeed caught in the Matrix, and to a much greater extent than we have previously imagined or thought possible. Not only are we entrapped by a synthetic program in our lives, but even after death we remain entrapped in the same illusion, and all of our highest spiritual beliefs and accomplishments are equally illusory: completely synthetic or at best distorted copies of true reality. All created to keep us from realizing our true nature, all meant to imprison us. ALL OF THEM.

Personally, I can handle the idea that it is and has all been a lie, all an illusion meant to imprison and enslave. It explains to me why none of the religions, none of the spiritual paths, none of the teachings and dogma ever rang quite true to me.

What that would imply insofar as hacking the genetic mind, well, we had best be very sure that our inputs are based on REAL truth, is it not so?

Here is one more sentence that may have relevance to that, from the original WingMakers Philosophy page that I quoted above:

"Source Reality is represented in your belief in unconditional love, but of all the dimensions of your belief systems, this is the one thread that is connected through the genetic mind to Source Reality"

I'm going to leave it at that for the moment, awaiting some input and insight from the rest of you.
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Asteram, you have it.

The NP material is/was amazing.....but yes, I think the timeline the Pleidians hoped we could follow was never gonna happen.....we have too much accreted violence and victim mentality to change purely for the sake of it...what I mean is that us humans seem to work well in a crisis, and that the only way out of all of this is through the fire of a crisis. we are the metamorphs [!]

May I take this opportunity to thank the Pleidians [and George Green of course] and send them love, as the messages in those books touched me so deeply and profoundly, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry, and frequently did both.

Having said that, I still haven't read Becoming as I've lost my copy of it [really irritating!] and I can't read it off a screen properly.

While I'm on the subject, have a listen to George Green's recent talk at Vilcabamba, it's on the Camelot Audio page. Very very good.

Now, the Wingmakers material.......what can I say, It's so.......
ambitious. It is material truly for sentient beings who are ready and able to accept their true nature, freedom and responsibility, and so to forgive themselves and everyone [and everything] else, and to fall in love with all that is, and therefore to truly 'live in love' without any effort, as there is no effort required...........

The only person who has ever come close to any of this is the one and only Jiddu Krishnamurti.
What he had to say was the same as Wingmakers.

It was ALL a glorious lie. It was demonstrable, obvious, staring them in the face, yet still they persisted in belief 'systems' [I speak of it in the past, as those days are [[very nearly]] gone]

wonderful thread by the way, what Avalon is all about!

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OK, this is good. If we're going to discuss hacking the genetic mind, we need have a working definition for what it is. Have no doubt that it's already being hacked and that this is nothing new, though there have never been so many ways to access it as are available in this kernel of time.

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"The genetic mind is the equivalent of a universal belief system that penetrates, to varying degrees, the human instrument of all entities. In some, it immobilizes their ability to think original thoughts and feel original feelings. In most, it entrains their belief system to harmonize with the accepted belief systems of the Hierarchy. In a few, it exerts no significant force nor has any bearing on the development of their personal belief system.
So why and how is it that the genetic mind exerts no significant force on some people? Who would be an example of that, and also what would be the recognizable characteristics of a person who's operating outside of the program? I would imagine that a great many of these persons have been incarcerated or put to death throughout history. Also, are there are different types of individuals operating outside of the the genetic mind construct? The psychopathic personality would be outside of it as well; even if it is some kind of progeny of the creator of the program in the first place...a possibility worth considering.

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-So compelling is this manipulation and the boundaries that are imposed by the Hierarchy that virtually no one is aware of the manipulations of their beliefs......
-If we were to tell you about the fundamental misconceptions of your genetic mind, you would not believe us.
- you must know this about your belief systems: they are largely disconnected from Source Reality
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Have WM's revealed "the fundamental misconceptions"? If someone knows where to find this info could you post it here? I can't say there's any element of surprise over the fact that human belief systems are disconnected from source reality.

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Over the next twenty years, the genetic mind will become increasingly fragmented and thus, vulnerable to modification. This will be an effect of the growing ubiquity of intelligent networks and artificial intelligence therein. The expanding interconnection of intelligent networks has a significant impact on the genetic mind because of the emergence of a global culture that accompanies the arrival of such technologies.

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And we do see this happening, do we not?
Every one of us is being affected by the explosion not just of knowledge, but of connection with others both of like mind and of very different outlooks.
Obviously, we're utilizing that here in this medium. I think it's amazing that the "ubiquity of intelligent networks" has slipped into the timestream the way it has, almost without being prognosticated by anyone. This factor alone makes it worthy of special notice. Was this always going to be a part of the present global/cultural landscape or was it recently inserted? Visionaries are always intuiting the future, and with all the sci-fi that was written...say through the 70's, how did this global network of digitized human consciousness + artificial intelligence slip past almost everyone?

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If this info is valid, we are indeed caught in the Matrix, and to a much greater extent than we have previously imagined or thought possible. Not only are we entrapped by a synthetic program in our lives, but even after death we remain entrapped in the same illusion, and all of our highest spiritual beliefs and accomplishments are equally illusory: completely synthetic or at best distorted copies of true reality. All created to keep us from realizing our true nature, all meant to imprison us. ALL OF THEM.
...and this adds some relevance to War In Heaven even though that information is structured quite differently from the WMs. It's the experience of waking up in a dream within a dream within a dream, except that each dream may be representative not only of entire lifetimes, but of after-lifetimes as well.

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What that would imply insofar as hacking the genetic mind, well, we had best be very sure that our inputs are based on REAL truth, is it not so?
I agree asteram, but I'm not at all clear about how to test for truths. If the WMs are right, there are many levels of awareness that are made to appear as if they're the top rung. The global information network is key to getting out on the playing field, but the playing field is organic, not AI, and we're not going to get there without getting rid of the computers...while keeping the connection.
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Now, the Wingmakers material.......what can I say, It's so.......
ambitious. It is material truly for sentient beings who are ready and able to accept their true nature, freedom and responsibility, and so to forgive themselves and everyone [and everything] else, and to fall in love with all that is, and therefore to truly 'live in love' without any effort, as there is no effort required...........
I'm not sure I figure that living in love is without effort but apart from that I couldn't agree more. It's the only material that actually did manage to 'blow my mind' in some way, and the fact that all the others didn't just encourages my understanding that all of this is inside the utterly small box of the HMS, but one should not forget that blaming the HMS is just blaming ourselves.
(I still don't trust the WM materials entirely, the website is just too well made and the whole deal of Anu wanting gold... come on... wanting to be god was a nicer explanation.)

I won't answer the above questions as to my doubt about a video. This will come up again in time, I'm sure. We've moved to a level just now that I think is much more relevant. I'm not sure if it is a step further or back at the beginning, but it is a higher level for sure, so let's do it.
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I agree asteram, but I'm not at all clear about how to test for truths. If the WMs are right, there are many levels of awareness that are made to appear as if they're the top rung. The global information network is key to getting out on the playing field, but the playing field is organic, not AI, and we're not going to get there without getting rid of the computers...while keeping the connection.
The playing field is organic. If I may add, the things that I can never touch ring most true for me. It's organic, ever elusive, self-arranging and 'non-wordable'. Thus, if we were to make a film, I doubt that playing it on the nose would help. No in fact, in my rather short but successfully weird (just bear with me and try to get the drift) life I've noticed that in fact all that really matters is what slips through the (w)holes as the matter subsides. It's got fairly little to do with imagination and whatever entity of such taps into the genetic mind, it has to do with all that which travels not in 3d but beyond, or at least, on the fringes of 3d and awareness.

What do I mean?

Some examples:
Beta Movement, the perceptive illusion of continuity vision brought about by the inertia of the chemicals that enable the sensory input of our eyes to be transformed into electrical impulses.
If the chemicals themselves suffer from an inertia that creates this movement that can be as much a staccato as 24 single impulses per second, then what happens in between those 24 instances?

Informational transfer in visual media, as I have observed, can only the successfully reach the conscious mind when there is a gap in the film, similar to the principle above. A gap in film? Well, in my studies I have realised that the more visual overflow is given the less perceptive a person can be, entering a dream state. Yes, you know this, it's NLP. My thinking is however, if I can create an overflow of the conscious mind, can I create an overflow of the subconscious mind and subsequently reach the unconscious (genetic) mind? I sadly know too little about the nature of the subconscious and have found only few vague models about it. An exploration into this seems necessary.

Gaps in spacetime-awareness. These might not be gaps in actual space/time but if you have ever done any martial arts to a certain intensity, you will notice that two opponents, as they sense each other, being to share a rhythm, and within that rhythm they, they feel each other, and due to this feeling, they start being able to know of each other's moments of unawareness, similar to the inertia described in the first example. In fact, as you progress, you will notice less and less of the opponent's movements, but if you can still your mind in readiness, your mind will mirror the other and you will know of their intent.
The interesting bit is that once you have readied yourself to that degree, the intent becomes a hindrance, as one has no intent anymore, things happen at a speed which is not only below the reaction time of the other, but in fact, beyond one's own reaction time and supposedly more.

Consider this a way of spawning a window of opportunity through your mind's force, similar to psi, is this window actually outside of normal space/time?

I am aware that this post is a chaos and I'm just throwing things out there but you may have noticed that I'm trying to get at two things here.

1. Is there a way to access the genetic mind in order to prove one's truths? (I'm not sure if you want to check your truths against the genetic mind and it's susceptibility to a certain meme or if you want complete and utter truth, if the latter is the case, well... how about you find our which individual of the human family has reached First Source?)

2. How to successfully and directly seed something into the genetic mind without having to wait till it seeps down the long consciousness and subconsciousness pipes of the individual that swallowed the meme.


Regards the latter, has anyone ever figured what those 'hidden codes' are that the WM materials and that "Goblet of Truth" book supposedly use to activate.... the essence or what it was?
(By the way dayzero, what was that last bit of audiocode at the very end of Phied's track in today's meditation? I swear I heard this before...)

Lastly, regard some of the chaos above as a stab at trying to go beyond the HMS code so far. I haven't heard much on this forum yet that couldn't be described with imagination and some kind of code, but what I expressed above I can not fathom with words or pictures and have never observed anybody else successfully do so. I'm sure this is still too low to escape any HMS but maybe the concepts can be isolated and applied at another level.

I'll leave it at that. Excuse the chaos. Take it or leave it. I just have the feeling that we might be a little too logical and surgical about this task.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:20 AM   #24
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So why and how is it that the genetic mind exerts no significant force on some people? Who would be an example of that, and also what would be the recognizable characteristics of a person who's operating outside of the program? I would imagine that a great many of these persons have been incarcerated or put to death throughout history. Also, are there are different types of individuals operating outside of the the genetic mind construct? The psychopathic personality would be outside of it as well; even if it is some kind of progeny of the creator of the program in the first place...a possibility worth considering.
I'd say offhand that those of us contributing to this thread are examples of people on whom the genetic mind exerts no significant force. I don't see any dogma being put forth or defended at all. As to psychopaths, I dunno. Maybe they are not plugged into the genetic mind, and then again they could be some sort of archetypes of the GM.

I came across a David Icke book a couple of days ago that appears to have relevance to our subject. Rather strange, as I haven't read any of his work since The Biggest Secret back in the 1990s. Here he is talking about revelations he experienced while taking ayahuasca in the Brazilian jungle in 2003:
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From David Icke http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...timeloop12.htm

... the thought projection itself took on a 'life' of its own when it gained access to an energy source independent of that which was projecting it. This energy source...., was fear. The Matrix - the projected reality of subconscious mind - absorbed the energy of fear generated particularly within the 'five- sense' Time Loop and took on a life and agenda of its own.

That agenda was to generate as much fear as possible to empower itself even further. The Matrix became a Frankenstein. The created or projected thought field had accessed an energy source to become a creator and projector of its own illusory reality......

The subconscious had created the prison from its disconnected state of self- deception and now it and the conscious mind were sitting in a cell of their own making, with the 'cell' dictating events.

The reason why The Matrix projection needs the energy of fear to empower itself is because it is fear, self- aware fear...... It had been created originally by the fear of subconscious mind and, as projected fear, this is the only energy source The Matrix entity could access and absorb.

The more fear its manipulations generate through wars, conflict, stress, guilt and aggression etc., the greater its power to increase this cycle of fear production.

......The Matrix was a self-aware entity that was knowingly manipulating to ensure its own survival by generating the events necessary to produce the fear that empowered it.

........ The Reptilians did 'exist', said the voice, but they were holographic thought projections of The Matrix very much like the agents or 'sentient programs' that manipulate in The Matrix movies. They could either operate as a reptilian projection or hide behind an apparently 'human' form, just as the sentient programs morph in and out of different human forms in the movies.

Either way, the Reptilians and other projected agents of The Matrix were not 'real' in consciousness terms; they were projections, thought fields or highly sophisticated software programs.

....The Reptilian 'sentient programs' did not have human emotion, the voice said, because they were just that, 'sentient programs', and are not conscious in the way humans are conscious.

"If you programmed a computer to kill children, would that computer have any emotional problems with that?" the voice asked.

No, it would just follow the programming because computers do not have emotion. They do what they are programmed to do. It was the same with the Illuminati and the 'Reptilians' - they were, in effect, like highly sophisticated computer software. They were like digital people implanted in the movies alongside human actors. They appear to be the same, but they are not.
So here we have a self-aware self perpetuating program (Anu has apparently bugged out with the gold) that is creating holographic sub-routines in order to induce fear and feed itself. Psychopaths could fit into this category as well, even if they were housed in actual organic bodies.

And what of the Organic Portals the Cassiopiean material talks about? Are there human bodies walking around that are not being used as soul carriers? Why not? They would likely be informed entirely by the genetic mind, it seems to me. I treat the whole OP idea pretty cautiously at this point; it seems reasonable but I know of no correlating sources other than my own experiences with people who seem to have everything else going for them but appear to lack the "higher centers".

The reference to War In Heaven is apropos; I'm thinking of the astral plane computer technology and machinery described in that book.

As to what Anu wanted the gold for, I read somewhere that he needed the gold to put a protective atmospheric shield around his home planet (Nibiru?). This was supposedly the conclusion that the NSA and other high-level spook agencies came to. Sorry, no reference for that. That makes as much sense as anything else I've heard; don't we possibly have something similar going on with the chemtrails right now?

The question about the fundamental misconceptions of the genetic mind seems to be addressed here:

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"Source Reality is represented in your belief in unconditional love, but of all the dimensions of your belief systems, this is the one thread that is connected through the genetic mind to Source Reality"
IOW, it's all garbage with the exception of unconditional love, and interestingly the same message is given to David Icke:

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"Infinite Love is the only truth - everything else is illusion; no buts, no exceptions, that's it."
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But let me define what is meant by love in the context of Infinite Love. It is the balance of all. Infinite Oneness is the only truth, everything else is illusion would be another way of saying it.

Therefore, Infinite 'Love' is also Infinite Intelligence, Infinite Knowledge, Infinite Everything. I was told how humanity had been manipulated to identify itself with illusory 'personalities' and not as the Infinite that we are. This had trapped people in the illusions of a disconnected state.
You may find it worthwhile to read the David Icke page I linked to above as there are amazing resonances with what James is saying in the latest interview. I haven't gotten to the rest of Icke's book, BTW.

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I think it's amazing that the "ubiquity of intelligent networks" has slipped into the timestream the way it has, almost without being prognosticated by anyone. This factor alone makes it worthy of special notice. Was this always going to be a part of the present global/cultural landscape or was it recently inserted? Visionaries are always intuiting the future, and with all the sci-fi that was written...say through the 70's, how did this global network of digitized human consciousness + artificial intelligence slip past almost everyone?
I grew up reading sci-fi and a global computer network of information sharing, access to a library of all written knowledge and video, and face-to-face video communication was in enough of those books that I accepted it as a coming reality. I seem to recall the idea in books from as far back as the 1940s. I also remember a vivid description of full-immersion virtual reality in a Clifford Simak book, probably from the 1950s. In that story, human explorers had found the ruins of an ancient high-tech civilization on another planet. In one abandoned building they found a library of cubes. When one of the humans accessed one of these cubes (I don't remember how), he experienced, in a few moments, several years of life interacting with and living with an alien culture. Excuse the digression, but it was a great story.

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the timeline the Pleidians hoped we could follow was never gonna happen.....we have too much accreted violence and victim mentality to change purely for the sake of it...what I mean is that us humans seem to work well in a crisis, and that the only way out of all of this is through the fire of a crisis. we are the metamorphs
And some of us are kind of excited about that. Aren't we perverse? Even if all we have to do is wake up and accept who we are, we are still compelled to make a drama and struggle out of the process. We want a pageant! We love a parade!

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the Wingmakers material.... It's so.......
ambitious. It is material truly for sentient beings who are ready and able to accept their true nature, freedom and responsibility,
Entity + Source Intelligence = Prime Creator equality. There is a lot at the site, and at Lyricus, that I never had a lot of interest in. It was always the few bits about the sovereign integral that most held my attention. I assume the rest is aimed at a different audience, or perhaps I'm not ready for it yet.

Czymra, I applaud your doubts about the WM material etc. My own explanation for its technical advancement and polish is that the entities behind the material, the WingMakers, are familiar with much more advanced networks. Sort of like master artists in oil painting dropping in on a kindergarten art class. Perhaps they can't show us too much without discouraging us.

I think it is also inevitable that the material will be corrupted and hijacked to an extent for the purposes of the Hierarchy. Nothing new there. All of my life I have had to practice powerful discernment or end up being misled. A friend described it the other day as sifting through a pile of ******** to find the dung beetles. Take what one can use and leave the rest; perhaps it will be useful later.

One more mind-blower from the James interview:

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The beings that exist in the manifested, three-dimensional universe are human and only human.
Dang. So much for Jabba the Hut and Chewbacca.

Okay, I don't think any of us wants this to turn into a WingMakers discussion thread. We have more or less a definition of the Genetic Mind as the repository of all human experience on Planet Earth. The point has been made and seconded that our target is organic, not AI. Or is it? If the Matrix we are stuck in is a self-perpetuating program that has evolved to the point of creating holographic entities for the purpose of keeping us in fear to provide its food supply, well, what are we dealing with?

Where is the physical/organic repository of the Genetic Mind? My first guess is the DNA. Check this out:

" Up to 97% of the human genetic information (DNA) is seemingly needless, repetitive "junk" - only about 3% is known to generate proteins, deserving the name "gene".

....investigative researchers are gathering details which suggest that DNA may not substantively exist as a "building block of life". Rather, it appears that the substantive function of DNA is to act as a "parasitic inhibitor" and "regulator" of life on planet Earth.

.....By accepting the link between DNA and emotional and mental activities, we may begin to imagine DNA as a complex program that directs the life process (regulating our metabolism, for instance), but impedes our consciousness from complete manifestation.

.......Research testimony that includes ancient representations, suggest that DNA was implanted in humanity by Manipulative Extraterrestrials. The fact that over 95% of DNA does not support vital biological living processes suggest that it is conceivable for biological life to exist without any DNA.

....Fractogene seems to have stumbled upon "introns" as Manipulative Extraterrestrial signature of the demonic inorganic mechanical intelligence that ancient pagan Gnostic referred to as "artificial man" or the "archons".
" Scholars suggest Human DNA shows signs of being an Invasive Extraterrestrial Parasite

Best to read the whole page. (And thanks to the great news site ShiftingDimensions.com for cluing me in to this)

We are talking about Hacking the Genetic Mind, are we not? It would be a good idea to get as focused and specific as possible. Does the DNA work as the material plane antenna/receiver for repression broadcast from non-material "technology"? Are "drugs" such as ayahuasca, DMT, and ketamine somehow bypassing the repressive properties of DNA?

That would certainly explain why such substances are illegal.

(I'll be back later with some thoughts on Czymra's comments about the video and the "space between things".)

Thanks for the great input. Love You All.
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hello all, good day to you.....
back to this great thread.....

I need to point out here that I'm not a believer in the wingmakers either, it is an allegorical device for getting people to wake up, and I admire the ambition of it...it is almost what the NP books were suggesting get done, awakening tools.....

[[however, the james audio interview with his webmaster is a must-listen.]]

......the Anu stuff is just completely ridiculous IMO. although that doesn't mean one can totally dismiss it, as it appears that this is who the poor misguided PTB/Illuminati/Nutters have been worshipping all these thousands of years.....because we find it ridiculous, is a measure of how far we are away from previous vibrations.......just a side-thought....?!
Also I find the new Camelot interview with the mysterious Jake so far into the last Paradigm that I could barely concentrate on it, there was so little of interest there.
But I do love team Kerry and Bill, and I [and we, I believe] owe them a lot.



now...... the genetic mind is real, but it's also a complete fiction.

ta-da!

"it's all garbage with the exception of unconditional love"
- indeed that's true.

So, It felt like the right time to hear what the Pleiadians have to say.......
and I think this broadcast is very useful here in re-explaining
some things.......I found it utterly resonant, see what you think......


Wendy Kennedy / Channel - The 9th Dimension Pleiadian Collective

http://journeyswithrebecca.com/jwr9/jwr9_feb17a.mp3

http://journeyswithrebecca.com/jwr9/jwr9_feb17b.mp3

more direct responses later, and thanks for all the great posts!

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